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3G on XDA?

Hi all,
Sorry if this seems a dull question but ........
I have an XDA1 and wonder whether I can use it on the 3G network? If not, how about the XDAII?
My present phone is a Motorola A920 using the 3G network but I'd got used to my XDA and prefer it!
My XDA1 has been unlocked.
Many thanks
John

Have you found out any news about using the 3G network on the XDA or XDA II? I have an XDA II and would find it intresting if there was software update or somthing like that

The XDA1 and XDA2 does not work on 3G networks (UMTS) as the frequency is different and the transceiver in the 1 & 2 does not support this.
There is though a new XDA3 on the market which supports 3G, but I dont know where it is available.

I think you will find that a 3G XDA has not been released as yet. for information on XDA III (name may cause confusion in O2 camp, re 2nd article) see:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml
http://techdigestuk.typepad.com/tech_digest/2004/07/xda3_or_is_that.html

my xda works on a 3 sim, but takes about a minute to find network. it roams to o2. can't sms.

when ever 3g phones cant reach a utms signal it just use gsm of cause only for talk
so there should be no problems using a 3g sim since it will just work as a normal gsm sim in a non utms phone
but i'm prettty sure that they dont offer grps roaming
software can never make a xda1-3 or any other non utms phone a utms phone just like an old 56K modem cant be software upgraded to a cabel modem

I would love to have 3G Network. Their data connection is as fast as 144kbps DSL speed. That's much faster than GSM network.
I'm playing in the field of 32kbps with GSM network. Blah, you call that the speed of DSL as they say? Right. :roll:

I have an XDA 1 which works just fine with my 3 sim BUT I cannot send SMS only receive, don't know why and haven't found anyone on this forum who can explain why.
SIM Manager doesnt work either, just says SIM is busy. Try again in 5 seconds but I could wait a month of Sundays and the SIM is still busy.

messing around with my xda1 last night, which has an o2 and a 3 sim in it. had the 3 sim selected, made a new work connection called Three, apn: three.co.uk, username: netservices. pressed connect AND IT DID!! BUT tried to access web and then wap, NO JOY. all other settings are for o2 payandgo online. when i had 3 sim in 3 phone i DIDN'T have to be in a 3g area to access all 3 services. any ideas if i can get any transfer going through xda? plus my new 3sim has arrived, NOT putting that in just yet!!!

3g or UTMS is not supported in many places and when you get out of their range their just do gsm and grps
there should not be a problem getting the services of 3g to work but you dont get the speed because you are not getting utms signal just be having sim it's on a different set of frequencies
there are CF and maybe SD cards out there which act as utms modems which can give a pda a nice internet speed boost though

yeah i know i won't get any extra speed, but it did connect to GPRS via the 3 sim, yes i know it was roaming to o2, the thing is i still want to see what i can get it to do. if i could get it to view FULL internet even at GPRS speeds, for NO charge then that would be good. my 3 package is 3togo, no monthly fee, no free mins, you only pay for what you use,you get a bill later.

You weren't technically roaming with o2.
Three uses o2 as a carrier network for 2.5G communications.
I've tried a Three SIM in my XDA II with similar results to you. However, i've noticed that in the latest XDA II o2 ROM upgrade, they install video calling applications.
I'll keep you posted - I work for Three so I know the details

driftingaway said:
You weren't technically roaming with o2.
Three uses o2 as a carrier network for 2.5G communications.
I've tried a Three SIM in my XDA II with similar results to you. However, i've noticed that in the latest XDA II o2 ROM upgrade, they install video calling applications.
I'll keep you posted - I work for Three so I know the details
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Also, it could be a matter of smsc centre being incorrectly configured when the 3 sim is placed in the XDA device
rgds
jim

Guys,
Don't keep your 3 usims in 2G handsets for very long. If 3 notice you are constantly roaming on o2 they *will* block the SIM.

Did anyone end up find out if you can actually sms with a Three sim in it ?

driftingaway said:
i've noticed that in the latest XDA II o2 ROM upgrade, they install video calling applications.
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Nah. There's a video mms application and you can also download or stream short video clips but these are all gprs services. Video calling is a 3g only service and no xda device has the hardware/software for that yet.
JD

HSDPA

Ok now i have the 750v, i have it unlocked and using my HSDPA enabled tmobile account. Anyone care to guess at how to enable HSDPA do you really think it needs a software upgrade or is there some way to tweak as i believe the vodafone tytn had hsdpa switched off too
Chris

TREO 750V WAS RELEASED WITHOUT HSDPA. HSDPA WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER MARCH 2007 WITH A NEW ROM

yes there is a tweak to enable hsdpa. search in the tytn forum for "sethsdpa" it is for the tytn but it works on my 750 also

if you enable hspda on treo 750v and your on voda network then you will not receive voice calls whilst using hspda in either push email or browsing.
same applies to any device using hspda on voda network unless your north of the borders apparently.
we are all waiting for voda network to be upgraded :-(

Fuze doesn't use 3G after flashing Romeos?

So I flashed Romeos2 to my new Fuze. It works fine, and the 3G logo went away and was replaced with the H logo. However, now when I use data, it is painfully slow. I'm assuming that its using edge - anyone have this issue? Any solution? I have the PDA data plan.

is it possible tha ROMeOS is meant for euro and asian Touch pro's meaning it wont get the 3G working in the US
TBH you should post this in the ROMeOS forum

You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.

Dramacydle said:
You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.
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i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~

baboola said:
i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~
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do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.

Isnt the H for HSDPA which is faster than 3G? Mines been doing the same thing.

i have the same problem. (no 3G or HSDPA only GPRS/EDGE)
tried 3 different roms and 3 different radios (with the .32 i didn't get any http connection at all, but icq etc. worked)
i have an german tp without branding ...

solved my problem ... 3G was deaktivated (default by the provider [o2])

venelar said:
do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.
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so I did a search and found multiple .cab files for it. How do I know which one is good for AT&T? Does anyone know if ROMeOS2 supports AT&T connection properly?

H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
E stands for EDGE.
G stands for GRPS.
When I installed ROMeOS on my Fuze, there was a connection window that popped up that had country and carrier drop down boxes. Try going through the connection settings and see if you can find something like that.

drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
G stands for EDGE, which is what you'll see when you're not in a 3G area.
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HSDPA is the high-speed version of UMTS/WCDMA/3G.
G stands for GPRS.
E stands for EGPRS or EDGE meaning high-speed GPRS.

I was just logging in to correct myself! Thanks ;-)

drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
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This is incorrect. 3G is the blanket term used for high speed mobile data. If you have an ATT branded phone and it shows 3G then you are on a UMTS (universal mobile telecommunications system) network which is slower than HSDPA (which stands for high speed download packet access) but still faster thank EDGE or EGPRS or whatever you want to call it. However, when I tested RomeOS on my Fuze, I too got the H symbol instead of a 3G one. I am fairly certain that in order to make the Fuze less confusing, an ATT branded Fuze will show 3G for both UMTS and HSDPA. I am now back on a modified ATT ROM by NotaTreoFan and it shows 3G when I am in the same spot at my highschool's cafeteria as where RomeOS showed an H. Hope this clears things up (or possibly makes them more confusing).
Edit: Looks like we all wanted to correct it

Touch Pro T7272 From UK _ Canada

I have just bought a new TMobile Vario 4 from the UK (HTC TOUCH PRO T7272) I am working and currenlty live in Canada - I have returned and have noticed that I no longer get 3g or HSDPA as a data connection - I am using NRG v2 ROM and have flashed 2 radios however have no luck cathcing a 3g data connection! I have been searching online and here and seem to get some stories that it maybe hardware - can anyone confirm if there is anything i can do?
Cheers - hope I havent bought a ferrari only to have a mini engine in it!

Mods can you move this to the ROM forum as i think it maybe a more techincal focussed question than general
Cheers

JPHCCFC said:
I have just bought a new TMobile Vario 4 from the UK (HTC TOUCH PRO T7272) I am working and currenlty live in Canada - I have returned and have noticed that I no longer get 3g or HSDPA as a data connection - I am using NRG v2 ROM and have flashed 2 radios however have no luck cathcing a 3g data connection! I have been searching online and here and seem to get some stories that it maybe hardware - can anyone confirm if there is anything i can do?
Cheers - hope I havent bought a ferrari only to have a mini engine in it!
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I'm fairly certain the Vario is Europe/Asia 3G meaning 900/2100Mhz 3G. In Canada on Rogers/Fido (and AT&T in the US) we use 1800Mhz 3G.
The best you will get is an edge connection. If you need a 3G phone that works in north America too go across the border (hopefully you work/live near one) and pickup an AT&T Fuze.

IndustryCanada said:
I'm fairly certain the Vario is Europe/Asia 3G meaning 900/2100Mhz 3G. In Canada on Rogers/Fido (and AT&T in the US) we use 1800Mhz 3G.
The best you will get is an edge connection. If you need a 3G phone that works in north America too go across the border (hopefully you work/live near one) and pickup an AT&T Fuze.
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Thanks for the response
This is the one I have http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1320&c=t-mobile_mda_vario_iv_htc_raphael - it says that it supports GSM 1800! I took out the battery and it says RAPH 300 - If i select GSM UTMS Band of 900+1800 and UMTS 2100(Worl) in the phone settings i get no network connection? Im confused now - I could get HSDPA and 3G with my T Mobile Vario 3 - trying to do some digging on what specifically RAPH 300 refers too as information and actual phone activity seems to be contradictory! Any ideas of the meaning of RAPH 300?

Help! Doogee X5 Pro modem cycles whenever accessed in LTE or 3G mode

I would love someone to help with this strange problem, before I throw this phone in the bin!
First the specs.
Doogee x5Pro, Android 5.1,
Baseband DOOGEE-X5pro.2015/10/08
Kernel version [email protected].2015.10.08
Build number DOOGEE X5pro-Android5.1-R08-2015.10.26
The phone works fine when I set Cellular Settings / Preferred network type to 2G. Of course it only works as a 2G phone in this mode.
However, if I set the Preferred network type to either 3G or 4G (recommended) then as soon as I try to make a call or send an SMS, the modem radio turns off and the call is immediately dropped or Messaging says the SMS service is unavailable. Occasionally the called phone will ring, but the call drops immediately. Sometimes the SMS does get through, but at my end it appears that the modem radio turns off and on again as soon as the Dialler or Messaging tries to use it. If someone tries to call me, the phone rings and caller-ID is displayed, but as soon as I answer, the modem radio cycles off and on again, and the call gets dropped.
If I am in an 4G LTE coverage area, then 4G data works fine (browsing was fast, Speedtest was showing 85+Mbps) but I still cannot make or receive calls, or send SMS's - as soon as I try, the modem radio cycles off and then on. If I am not in an LTE coverage area (but am in a 3G WCDMA coverage area), then the phone just constantly cycles showing 4G for an instant then 3G, then radio off, then radio on but no service, then 4G etc... - this cycle is very regular and takes about 53 seconds end-to-end. If wi-fi is on, this cycle only starts if the modem is accessed (e.g. by trying to make a call), or by turning wifi off and cellular data on. And of course I can't make or receive calls or send SMS's during this cycle, and even when the signal shows 3G I can't get any data connectivity. While it's doing this, if I go to Settings / SIM cards, the 'On/Off' slider moves to 'Off' when the radio cycles off, and then moves back to 'On' again.
In summary; in 3G or 4G preferred network mode and not in LTE coverage, whenever anything (calls, SMS or data) tries to use the modem it cycles off and on again. When in LTE coverage, data works but calls and SMS cause the modem to cycle. As I mentioned, 2G is fine.
I think I've tried most of the obvious things, and some not-so-obvious ones. These are the things I've tried so far.
Obvious things like reboot, battery out, reset to factory settings, wipe cache, clear application data. No change.
I swapped the SIM from Slot 1 (LTE/WCDMA) to Slot 2 (GSM) - the behaviour was exactly the same (this surprised me as it seemed to be LTE-related).
I put my SIM in a carrier's (Vodafone NZ) Samsung 4G phone and it worked fine, also it was fine in a Chinese-brand 3G phone. Then I put another Vodafone NZ 4G SIM in my phone and it had exactly the same problems, so I think it's the phone rather than the SIM or the carrier.
Because data works fine when in LTE coverage, and the phone does ring if called (but cycles the modem immediately when I answer the call), it seems the hardware is possibly working OK. So I assumed software or settings might be the cause.
I created new APN's using carrier-supplied settings. No change. I flashed various Doogee stock ROM versions (don't think there are any custom ones for this phone) and they all display the same problem, rooted or otherwise. I've used the engineering menus (*#*#3646633#*#* and *#*#4636#*#*) to change bands, network preferences and various other settings with no effect. 2G (GSM only) is the only one that works. I installed the Xposed Framework and Gravitybox module and had a play with some of the settings in there but again, no effect.
I don't know what else to try and I can't return the phone as it costs too much to send it back to China from New Zealand.
So any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated, otherwise I'm stuck with a not particularly useful 2G wi-fi phone.
Thanks in advance.

Just a bit of an update. I've discovered that 4G LTE works fine when in range and 2G works fine all of the time; but 3G just doesn't work at all and I have no idea why - I've searched the threads and tried all of the suggestions I could find that can be applied to this phone. As soon as anything tries to access the 3G radio (calls, SMS or data), the modem just 'reboots' (powers off and on again).
All of the other symptoms I've described are related to this. When out of (or in marginal) 4G coverage, it starts in 4G, falls back to 3G and that's when the modem 'reboots'. When in 4G range, data works fine but as soon as I make or recieve a call it needs to drop from 4G to 3G (I don't think we have VoLTE here) and that's when the modem 'reboots'.
So any ideas anyone? Is this likely to be a hardware problem with the phone?
Thanks.
(BTW the baseband appears to be MOLY.LR9.W1444.MD.LWTG.MP.V8.P33,2015/10/26 16:01)

Good to see another Kiwi with a Doogee X5 PRO. I have not seen these issues in Auckland but a few weeks ago I upgraded to R17 using this ROM :
www.needrom.com/download/doogee-x5-pro/
I noticed 3G and 4G are much improved and I could get both in either slot 1 or 2 (I use dual Voda SIMS).
Last week I went Android6 (32-bit) using this ROM:
www.needrom.com/download/android-6-0/
Using this ROM I can only get 3G and 4G in slot 1 and 2 is "locked" to 2G .. so I guess its software based. If your comfortable with flashing your device then do the R17 upgrade or see if its available OTA

nzjacob said:
Good to see another Kiwi with a Doogee X5 PRO. I have not seen these issues in Auckland but a few weeks ago I upgraded to R17 using this ROM :
www.needrom.com/download/doogee-x5-pro/
I noticed 3G and 4G are much improved and I could get both in either slot 1 or 2 (I use dual Voda SIMS).
Last week I went Android6 (32-bit) using this ROM:
www.needrom.com/download/android-6-0/
Using this ROM I can only get 3G and 4G in slot 1 and 2 is "locked" to 2G .. so I guess its software based. If your comfortable with flashing your device then do the R17 upgrade or see if its available OTA
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Hi, thanks for the tip - I've already tried the various ROMs on NEEDROM and currently have Android 6 installed, unfortunately the modem still exhibits exactly the same behaviour. But good to hear that yours works OK in NZ because that reinforces by belief that it must be a hardware issue (rather than a network one). Unfortunately this means the phone's only really any use as a WiFi 'phablet' or a 2G phone. So I've given up on it and bought a cheapo Voda Smart Prime instead, which does the basics OK - shame really as I've had Doogee's before and they've been really good. Oh well

I have just gotten an X5 Max Pro. I've noticed that I only have 3G service from my carrier in my area and for that reason I cannot receive calls if I set the favourite network type to 4G(recommended). I have to set the preferred network type to 3G in order to be able to receive calls, otherwise you will receive the "the phone you are calling is off or out of signal" notification, at the same time that I receive a text message from my carrier notifying the lost call.
To me it seems that the phone is not capable of downgrading the signal automatically to 3G when there is no 4G signal. However, I can make calls and receive text messages with no problems at all.
When I have 4G coverage, everything works just fine with the preferred network type set to 4G(recommended).
Is this a software or a hardware problem? I really don't know if it is related to the problems already described here with the x5 pro, but I have decided to post my experience. Maybe it will give some more hints about what is wrong with many Doogee x5 devices.
Thanks

Possible explanation & solution
Hi,
I may have an explanation and solution.
I have Doogee X5 Max Pro and I ran into similar problems. Doogee international did not respond to me, but their agent in Israel did.
Apparently in each cellular provider uses two frequencies: 2000 for outdoors, and 850 *or* 900 for indoors. High end phones support both 850 and 900 (along with the 2000). This model only supports 900 (and 2000), which means that you'd if your provider uses 850, you'd have a good reception outdoors, but a lousy one / none indoors (along with a higher battery consumption etc.).
The solution was to switch to a different provider that uses 900 frequency, and that indeed solved the problem (in Israel I switched to Partner - used to be a part of the Orange network) .
I hope that helps.
Yossi

yossiy said:
Hi,
I may have an explanation and solution.
I have Doogee X5 Max Pro and I ran into similar problems. Doogee international did not respond to me, but their agent in Israel did.
Apparently in each cellular provider uses two frequencies: 2000 for outdoors, and 850 *or* 900 for indoors. High end phones support both 850 and 900 (along with the 2000). This model only supports 900 (and 2000), which means that you'd if your provider uses 850, you'd have a good reception outdoors, but a lousy one / none indoors (along with a higher battery consumption etc.).
The solution was to switch to a different provider that uses 900 frequency, and that indeed solved the problem (in Israel I switched to Partner - used to be a part of the Orange network) .
I hope that helps.
Yossi
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I think Yossi hit the nail on the head there! Ouch!
In Oz we have Telstra on the 850MHz band and Optus etc on the 900MHz 3G band..
So Optus is OK but Telstra nay.
The trap is they may show heaps of signal strength but it is probably from the wrong band!
You can do everything except make or take a phone call!
A lot of problems with phones has reared it's ugly head since the 2G network shut down.
Unless you have plenty of 4G signal (which the various providers share the same bands), you would be pretty stuffed..
I wonder if firmware(Rom) changes could solve the problem ?
(I also have the Doogee x5 max pro..)