Hi all,
Sorry if this seems a dull question but ........
I have an XDA1 and wonder whether I can use it on the 3G network? If not, how about the XDAII?
My present phone is a Motorola A920 using the 3G network but I'd got used to my XDA and prefer it!
My XDA1 has been unlocked.
Many thanks
John
Have you found out any news about using the 3G network on the XDA or XDA II? I have an XDA II and would find it intresting if there was software update or somthing like that
The XDA1 and XDA2 does not work on 3G networks (UMTS) as the frequency is different and the transceiver in the 1 & 2 does not support this.
There is though a new XDA3 on the market which supports 3G, but I dont know where it is available.
I think you will find that a 3G XDA has not been released as yet. for information on XDA III (name may cause confusion in O2 camp, re 2nd article) see:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml
http://techdigestuk.typepad.com/tech_digest/2004/07/xda3_or_is_that.html
my xda works on a 3 sim, but takes about a minute to find network. it roams to o2. can't sms.
when ever 3g phones cant reach a utms signal it just use gsm of cause only for talk
so there should be no problems using a 3g sim since it will just work as a normal gsm sim in a non utms phone
but i'm prettty sure that they dont offer grps roaming
software can never make a xda1-3 or any other non utms phone a utms phone just like an old 56K modem cant be software upgraded to a cabel modem
I would love to have 3G Network. Their data connection is as fast as 144kbps DSL speed. That's much faster than GSM network.
I'm playing in the field of 32kbps with GSM network. Blah, you call that the speed of DSL as they say? Right. :roll:
I have an XDA 1 which works just fine with my 3 sim BUT I cannot send SMS only receive, don't know why and haven't found anyone on this forum who can explain why.
SIM Manager doesnt work either, just says SIM is busy. Try again in 5 seconds but I could wait a month of Sundays and the SIM is still busy.
messing around with my xda1 last night, which has an o2 and a 3 sim in it. had the 3 sim selected, made a new work connection called Three, apn: three.co.uk, username: netservices. pressed connect AND IT DID!! BUT tried to access web and then wap, NO JOY. all other settings are for o2 payandgo online. when i had 3 sim in 3 phone i DIDN'T have to be in a 3g area to access all 3 services. any ideas if i can get any transfer going through xda? plus my new 3sim has arrived, NOT putting that in just yet!!!
3g or UTMS is not supported in many places and when you get out of their range their just do gsm and grps
there should not be a problem getting the services of 3g to work but you dont get the speed because you are not getting utms signal just be having sim it's on a different set of frequencies
there are CF and maybe SD cards out there which act as utms modems which can give a pda a nice internet speed boost though
yeah i know i won't get any extra speed, but it did connect to GPRS via the 3 sim, yes i know it was roaming to o2, the thing is i still want to see what i can get it to do. if i could get it to view FULL internet even at GPRS speeds, for NO charge then that would be good. my 3 package is 3togo, no monthly fee, no free mins, you only pay for what you use,you get a bill later.
You weren't technically roaming with o2.
Three uses o2 as a carrier network for 2.5G communications.
I've tried a Three SIM in my XDA II with similar results to you. However, i've noticed that in the latest XDA II o2 ROM upgrade, they install video calling applications.
I'll keep you posted - I work for Three so I know the details
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You weren't technically roaming with o2.
Three uses o2 as a carrier network for 2.5G communications.
I've tried a Three SIM in my XDA II with similar results to you. However, i've noticed that in the latest XDA II o2 ROM upgrade, they install video calling applications.
I'll keep you posted - I work for Three so I know the details
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Also, it could be a matter of smsc centre being incorrectly configured when the 3 sim is placed in the XDA device
rgds
jim
Guys,
Don't keep your 3 usims in 2G handsets for very long. If 3 notice you are constantly roaming on o2 they *will* block the SIM.
Did anyone end up find out if you can actually sms with a Three sim in it ?
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i've noticed that in the latest XDA II o2 ROM upgrade, they install video calling applications.
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Nah. There's a video mms application and you can also download or stream short video clips but these are all gprs services. Video calling is a 3g only service and no xda device has the hardware/software for that yet.
JD
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HI,
I just got a samsung I780 and flashed the i780MSHC3 rom, today i got a att pda plan. However, I can't use i780 to connect att's 3g network, always in gsm/gprs....... (using in LA, 3G definitely covered)
Is there anybody having the same problem, or could somebody give me some advice (already called att, but not worked out)
also,
Gyngabread Man could you help me to change my plan to the $30 PDA connect with isp support?
Thank you
Please help...
my date plan is PDA PERSONAL CV TE
I screwed up...
please help
how to make i780 tri-band 3g????
Anybody helps????
whether there is a way make i780 works on att's 3g?
Thanks....................
What phone rom are you using ?
If is an old one, try with the italian one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384619&highlight=i780+radio
my phone radio rom is:
XIHA7 the Italy rom...
I just wonder whether i780 is capitiable for att's 3g network, if now whether there is a "solution"?
is there anybody else using i780 in U.S. on ATT 3g network?
Thanks.....
The phone does not have 850/1900, only 2100. How do you plan on using AT&T's 3G network without 1900?
Changing the ROM will not give your phone the ability to now utilize AT&T's 3G network.
The weird thing is it won't even connect edge..........
but when insert t-mobile(us)'s card... it at least connected to edge....
and when i "roaming", i can connect to edge network, but with att, without roam, can only connect to gprs........
dats so sucks...
Just whether why some rom will make the i780 has tri-band 3g function
maevro said:
The phone does not have 850/1900, only 2100. How do you plan on using AT&T's 3G network without 1900?
Changing the ROM will not give your phone the ability to now utilize AT&T's 3G network.
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Sorry to revive an old thread...I can't connect to AT&T's 3G either (I live in Chicago). The band selection on my phone, though, is
1)900/1800
2)1900
3)WCDMA (phone doesn't connect to anything with this selected)
4)Automatic
PDA ROM is DXHE1
Phone ROM is PUHE1
Am I an idiot for buying this phone (I would need 850 instead of 900 on this bad boy?) or am I just not using the right settings?
same problems here...
Unless I'm mistaken it's a hardware issue, no amount of ram flashing will get past the the fact that your phone will not broadcast on the right band...
I have a samsung EPIX I have done a lot of looking around all over I found that the epix supports 2100ghz HSDPA. So it should use T-Mobile 3g am I correct? I can not for the life of me figure out how to get it to work am I fighting a losing battle is it not possible? Am I missing something in the setup? I have had it for a few weeks and really love it. I would appreciate any help thanks.
John
hmm normally u have to goto connections setting and turn on HSDPA and reboot the device. it should auto connect using the 3G ,(depening on fone icons H mite show instead of 3G) as far as im aware HSDPA is great if using ur fone as a modem for laptops or desktop computers,
t-mobile uk supports upto 4.2mbs depending on area.
i'll try to look into this for u but u mite need to contact samsung as T-mobile only support soo much.
also HSDPA loves to drain the battery!
I called Tmob support and they said all I have to do is pop my sim card in and if the settings are correct it will work on 3G. They did not have any other info for me on my phone. I have no problem using EDGE network so I am assuming it is just in the phone. I do know now that my account is ready for 3G thats a plus YAY! I also did not see a place in setting to turn on HSDPA. Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated.
This is from the samsung web site it shows it supports UMTS/HSDPA (850,1900, 2100MHz). I found a service menu code to set the phone to wcdma only, but i get no service when I force it to use wcdma. Wcdma is the band for 3g am I correct? I also found a code to let me lock the exact band I want to use but I do not see 2100 I do see a 2000 but 2000 still dose not alow me to get service.Am I missing something? Am I just fighting a losing battle?
well my friend, I have been having the same question stirr in my head for weeks now, because i got this phone like a month ago and i love it. i would prefer this phone over almost anything that is out right now. What i have found out so far is that this is a losing battle. our phone (epix) does support 2100ghz but it does NOT support the also equally as important uplink frequency. (1700ghz). this is the problem. Tmobile uses 1700ghz uplink and 2100ghz downlink. and as far as ive discovered the is absolutely no way to fix this. no radio rom dowload, and no adjustment to the radio reciever/transmiter that ive found. i also am willing to do just about anything to get 3G with this phone also because its a BEAST. this phone is very quick and has a TON of amazing features but theyre really not that great if you cant get the phone to work to the best of its abilities. anyway, hope that helped a little.
yep, must have both 1700mhz and 2100mhz radio for tmob 3G! Very few ppc devices have this off the wall 1700...
that is correct, you must have both the 1700 and 2100 bands supported. Not very have the 1700 unless they are branded as tmobile. I have a tilt 2 and the Epix both running on the TMO network and neither will ever be able to use 3G.
Hi,
Any AT&T Atrix2 users in the Netherland ?
I've just arrived last week and I couldn't get a stable data connections. I know it's not a network problem because my friends don't have any problem. So I'm wondering if for some reason it's my phone (radio incompatibility maybe).
Most of the time it just won't attached to the network, other time it attached to the network but data is not flowing.
SMS/Voice call are doing fine.
ari197 said:
Hi,
Any AT&T Atrix2 users in the Netherland ?
I've just arrived last week and I couldn't get a stable data connections. I know it's not a network problem because my friends don't have any problem. So I'm wondering if for some reason it's my phone (radio incompatibility maybe).
Most of the time it just won't attached to the network, other time it attached to the network but data is not flowing.
SMS/Voice call are doing fine.
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Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Access point names.
What APNs are listed?
Edit - You may need to add a new APN from this list: http://wiki.apnchanger.org/Netherlands
Live Vodafone...
Anyway, don't think that the problem is with the app, cause from time to time, I could have connection (a very fast one I have to say), but most of the time, no traffic are coming through.
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ari197 said:
Live Vodafone...
Anyway, don't think that the problem is with the app, cause from time to time, I could have connection (a very fast one I have to say), but most of the time, no traffic are coming through.
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And you have tried your connection from the same locations as your friends, who are also using the same mobile operator?
I use a SIM unlocked AT&T Atrix 2 in the Netherlands with no problems. I'm on T-Mobile NL and live in Amsterdam.
I have had problems with my phone failing to connect to a data network when I travel outside of the Netherlands, though. It'll get itself into a state where it won't send or receive data even with the "data roaming" option selected. I've always been able to solve it by rebooting the phone, but that's a crappy solution. Does a power cycle fix it for you?
recently ive been all around(Ger,Aus,Slo,Cze,Hun) europe with data roaming on, and i had data(and phone ofc)just fine where i wanted it. im with vodafone.
unlocked att atrix2
I think it might have something to do with the radio. Force my phone to 2G and connection is very stable.
Might be related with me living in Maastricht which is quite close to the border.
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afaik the att 3g bands dont cover all the european 3g gsm bands, its rare but you might be unlucky... you have to see specs of a2 and your providers bands.
souljaboy said:
afaik the att 3g bands dont cover all the european 3g gsm bands, its rare but you might be unlucky... you have to see specs of a2 and your providers bands.
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yup .. that makes a lot sense .. that would explain the stability problem .. well, no biggie .. 2G serves me just fine ..
ari197 said:
yup .. that makes a lot sense .. that would explain the stability problem .. well, no biggie .. 2G serves me just fine ..
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Some of European providers use 900MHz band for UMTS which not supported by A2.
So in areas without 2100MHz but with 900MHz UMTS our phone will not work in 3G .
What I find it strange is, when I'm on 3G, phone and sms work just fine. I got a full signal also. That's why I don't suspect radio problem.
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ari197 said:
What I find it strange is, when I'm on 3G, phone and sms work just fine. I got a full signal also. That's why I don't suspect radio problem.
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When you're on 3G, it SHOULD work fine.
If you meant "when you're not on 3G," then that is still normal. Different radio bands handle different tasks from your phone - SMSPhone being examples. You can still be "on network" and not have 3G data connectivity.
If you take a trip to a different city in the Netherlands and your 3G works fine, you'll know the problem is with the radio bands your carrier is using/not using in your home area. If your connection is still bad, then you have an issue with your phone itself.
^^
that is correct. its not so simple as "sms works so data should too"
in this century less and less people are sending sms and calling, compared to the growth of mobile data usage. but the number of bands on the avaliable frequencies didnt grow at all. so networks adapt to it, different bands are becoming data bands, and small unused bands are becoming phone bands, and so on..
Hey guys,
So I have the Z3 Dual, but where I live, we only get 3G network and no GSM, which brings me to my question:
Is anyone working towards a hack to allow my device to run BOTH my Telstra SIM cards in LTE mode without one reverting to GSM?
Thanks in advance,
Phil
Really? No gsm signal or 2g. I think 2g structures are the most basic one that every carrier Has. BecAuse if 3g becomes congested, the subscriber can fall back to 2g. Anyway i guess no hack is on going because of the rooting issues with this plus i think it's a hardware limitation. 2 simcards cannot use 1 modem (the 3g/4g) because that would tax a lot of battery power
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There are 2 radios in the phone I'm suspecting, since both SIM's run different IMEI numbers (1 per radio) if you check in About Phone/Status and check the 2 SIMs.
So I can't see why this is a limitation.... renders the phone worthless for what I wanted it for (Work sim and Personal sim),
And yes, where I live, there has never been GSM, it was CDMA before the towers were upgraded to 3G (Central Wheatbelt is Western Australia).
Dysstatic said:
There are 2 radios in the phone I'm suspecting, since both SIM's run different IMEI numbers (1 per radio) if you check in About Phone/Status and check the 2 SIMs.
So I can't see why this is a limitation.... renders the phone worthless for what I wanted it for (Work sim and Personal sim),
And yes, where I live, there has never been GSM, it was CDMA before the towers were upgraded to 3G (Central Wheatbelt is Western Australia).
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When you use the first SIM with LTE the second has no signal?
I can't understand if the second sim limit is only for connection or also for 3G bands.
I mean: you can still use the second line on a 3G network only for calls and SMS without using data connection or not? The second line is limited on 2G bands?
thanks for answers I ordered a Z3 Dual 2 days ago
theskig said:
When you use the first SIM with LTE the second has no signal?
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Correct, because the second sim drops down to GSM, which we don't have in rural Western Australia. And vice versa, set the second SIM to LTE/WCDMA and the first SIM drops down to GSM. Meaning, you cannot run 2 SIM's side-by-side unless you live in an area that has GSM/2G still.
theskig said:
I can't understand if the second sim limit is only for connection or also for 3G bands.
I mean: you can still use the second line on a 3G network only for calls and SMS without using data connection or not? The second line is limited on 2G bands?
thanks for answers I ordered a Z3 Dual 2 days ago
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So, you choose either SIM as your data sim. Whichever you choose, that sim runs in LTE mode and the other SIM is used for calls/sms only.
SMS and phone apps both have 2 send buttons labelled 1 and 2, so you can send messages or make calls from either SIM at the press of a button. But only 1 SIM has data active, that is the SIM running in LTE mode.
I have messaged Sony Mobile Developers regarding this, the reply was:
From: [email protected]
Hi Phil,
Thanks so much for your email. We will forward the dual SIM issue you have identified to our internal teams for further investigation.
Best regards,
Developer World
Hope this helps
Regards,
Phil
Dysstatic said:
Correct, because the second sim drops down to GSM, which we don't have in rural Western Australia. And vice versa, set the second SIM to LTE/WCDMA and the first SIM drops down to GSM. Meaning, you cannot run 2 SIM's side-by-side unless you live in an area that has GSM/2G still.
So, you choose either SIM as your data sim. Whichever you choose, that sim runs in LTE mode and the other SIM is used for calls/sms only.
SMS and phone apps both have 2 send buttons labelled 1 and 2, so you can send messages or make calls from either SIM at the press of a button. But only 1 SIM has data active, that is the SIM running in LTE mode.
I have messaged Sony Mobile Developers regarding this, the reply was:
From: [email protected]
Hi Phil,
Thanks so much for your email. We will forward the dual SIM issue you have identified to our internal teams for further investigation.
Best regards,
Developer World
Hope this helps
Regards,
Phil
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Thanks for infos!
That's weird! If I live in a place with only 2G or only 3G network I cannot use 2 sim cards!
But I remember reading on online user manual that the 2 sims network settings are separated, right? If you force both on the right frequency?
In a few days I'll receive the phone and I'll help you with some tests
theskig said:
Thanks for infos!
That's weird! If I live in a place with only 2G or only 3G network I cannot use 2 sim cards!
But I remember reading on online user manual that the 2 sims network settings are separated, right? If you force both on the right frequency?
In a few days I'll receive the phone and I'll help you with some tests
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Correct, both sims wont run on 3G at the same time..
Both sims WILL run on 2G at the same time though (GSM).
Hi all,
I got my Mate 7 (LT-09, european version, 2gb black version, stock 4.4) about a month ago. I'm from Czech republic, so at first I thought that it can't connect to 4G just because of low 4G signal. However, I study in Edinburgh where the 4G signal should be good (my friends connect to it with no problem), but my phone still doesn't connect to 4G. I have a 4G sim card, 4G giffgaff (virtual O2 operator) goodybag, so everything should be working. But, I can only connect to H+.
Also, when I try to register to a network, I can see three options - O2 2G, O2 3G, and O2 4G, however, when I click on the O2 4G, I get an error message saying "couldn't connect to the network, choose automaticaly?"
Does anyone have a similar issue? I'm really getting desperate.
Thank you
honza-m said:
Hi all,
I got my Mate 7 (LT-09, european version, 2gb black version, stock 4.4) about a month ago. I'm from Czech republic, so at first I thought that it can't connect to 4G just because of low 4G signal. However, I study in Edinburgh where the 4G signal should be good (my friends connect to it with no problem), but my phone still doesn't connect to 4G. I have a 4G sim card, 4G giffgaff (virtual O2 operator) goodybag, so everything should be working. But, I can only connect to H+.
Also, when I try to register to a network, I can see three options - O2 2G, O2 3G, and O2 4G, however, when I click on the O2 4G, I get an error message saying "couldn't connect to the network, choose automaticaly?"
Does anyone have a similar issue? I'm really getting desperate.
Thank you
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sometimes u got to set the right apn.i got ultra mobile with t mobile net work.the apn that the sim card has is only for 3g or h+.i got to maually set the apn ,after that i got 4g lte all the time
dc0321 said:
sometimes u got to set the right apn.i got ultra mobile with t mobile net work.the apn that the sim card has is only for 3g or h+.i got to maually set the apn ,after that i got 4g lte all the time
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Thank you for your anwer! I had the right settings (at least I think so), but I was so desperate that I upgraded to android 5.1.1. There it didn't work as well, but after I updated the apn I got 4G! So it was probably just bad APN settings. Thank you so much, didn't realize that could be a problem.
what apn did you use , i have fast.t-mobile.com, all i get is 3g or H+ i already set it to WCDMA only for preferred network type
I used the settings from giffgaff.com website, so I suppose you should get yours at your regional t-mobile website. Just make sure that you're using the correct one, as there can be defferent apn settings for 3g and 4g (that's what happened to me, and that's why I didn't realise it was an apn problem). Hope this helps.