So I flashed Romeos2 to my new Fuze. It works fine, and the 3G logo went away and was replaced with the H logo. However, now when I use data, it is painfully slow. I'm assuming that its using edge - anyone have this issue? Any solution? I have the PDA data plan.
is it possible tha ROMeOS is meant for euro and asian Touch pro's meaning it wont get the 3G working in the US
TBH you should post this in the ROMeOS forum
You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.
Dramacydle said:
You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~
baboola said:
i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.
Isnt the H for HSDPA which is faster than 3G? Mines been doing the same thing.
i have the same problem. (no 3G or HSDPA only GPRS/EDGE)
tried 3 different roms and 3 different radios (with the .32 i didn't get any http connection at all, but icq etc. worked)
i have an german tp without branding ...
solved my problem ... 3G was deaktivated (default by the provider [o2])
venelar said:
do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so I did a search and found multiple .cab files for it. How do I know which one is good for AT&T? Does anyone know if ROMeOS2 supports AT&T connection properly?
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
E stands for EDGE.
G stands for GRPS.
When I installed ROMeOS on my Fuze, there was a connection window that popped up that had country and carrier drop down boxes. Try going through the connection settings and see if you can find something like that.
drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
G stands for EDGE, which is what you'll see when you're not in a 3G area.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HSDPA is the high-speed version of UMTS/WCDMA/3G.
G stands for GPRS.
E stands for EGPRS or EDGE meaning high-speed GPRS.
I was just logging in to correct myself! Thanks ;-)
drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is incorrect. 3G is the blanket term used for high speed mobile data. If you have an ATT branded phone and it shows 3G then you are on a UMTS (universal mobile telecommunications system) network which is slower than HSDPA (which stands for high speed download packet access) but still faster thank EDGE or EGPRS or whatever you want to call it. However, when I tested RomeOS on my Fuze, I too got the H symbol instead of a 3G one. I am fairly certain that in order to make the Fuze less confusing, an ATT branded Fuze will show 3G for both UMTS and HSDPA. I am now back on a modified ATT ROM by NotaTreoFan and it shows 3G when I am in the same spot at my highschool's cafeteria as where RomeOS showed an H. Hope this clears things up (or possibly makes them more confusing).
Edit: Looks like we all wanted to correct it
Related
I recently purchased an HTC Touch Cruise from phonesource-USA without doing my homework. (What can I say, I was overwhelmed by the coolness of the phone). Before this phone, I was using an Excalibur and a Titan from HTC. I think I already know the answer to this question, but wanted to ask the home experts out there.
I absolutely love this phone, but am I screwed on 3G when T-Mobile releases it this year?
P.S. I'm located in the U.S.
wagz said:
I recently purchased an HTC Touch Cruise from phonesource-USA without doing my homework. (What can I say, I was overwhelmed by the coolness of the phone). Before this phone, I was using an Excalibur and a Titan from HTC. I think I already know the answer to this question, but wanted to ask the home experts out there.
I absolutely love this phone, but am I screwed on 3G when T-Mobile releases it this year?
P.S. I'm located in the U.S.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
T-Mobile USA Will use 1700mHz band for 3G and according to some sources it will use 2100mHz to. Witch T-Mobile say it will not have full experience of there 3G. But it will work.
And i think it will be possible to use Radio from Sony X1 witch have same Chip sets and everything except screen.
AT&T 3G
I think I may be in the same boat. I did read up on the phone before I bought it to work on At&t's 3G network. Even thought the phone operates on 1900mghz I have not been able to get it working. It always is on the Edge network.
sultanofsumar said:
I think I may be in the same boat. I did read up on the phone before I bought it to work on At&t's 3G network. Even thought the phone operates on 1900mghz I have not been able to get it working. It always is on the Edge network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
are you saying you have not been able to get the phone to work on att's 3G network? i've read on howard forums where other owners are seeing the "H" and "3G", suggesting that others have been able to connect...
3G
That's exactly what I am saying. I have had it configured to the correct frequency for AT&T's 3G since I turned it on. The very first time I put it on 1900 MGHZ I did see a H and then a G, but I'm sure the G was for GSM.
sultanofsumar said:
That's exactly what I am saying. I have had it configured to the correct frequency for AT&T's 3G since I turned it on. The very first time I put it on 1900 MGHZ I did see a H and then a G, but I'm sure the G was for GSM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you say "configured to the correct frequency for att's 3G", did you manually set the Band to 1900 mHz? or do you have it set to Automatic? for all my HTC devices that support 3G, i set the Band to Automatic and it will pick up and use the att 3G/H band automatically. i only see the "H" when i'm tethered to my laptop or downloading a 1 meg + file.
att 3g
I did it manually. I figured it wouldn't work on auto. I will try the auto detect and see what happens.
3g is up
Well it says G right now, but not 3G. I know I have crappy reception here so maybe it will change. Thanks though.
yep... having good HSDPA/UMTS coverage is a must to access the network. if it says "G", you're using GPRS, "E", you're using Edge, "3G", you're using UMTS, "H" you're using HSDPA. you might check att's website to see if you have high-speed coverage in your location. every HTC 3G capable device (e.g., supports Triband HSDPA) that i've purchased has always connected to att's network with the "Auto" Band setting...
kolobok01 said:
T-Mobile USA Will use 1700mHz band for 3G and according to some sources it will use 2100mHz to. Witch T-Mobile say it will not have full experience of there 3G. But it will work.
And i think it will be possible to use Radio from Sony X1 witch have same Chip sets and everything except screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah this sucks. Why can't America just use the same frequencies as the rest of the world. I don't want to have to purchase another expensive phone right after purchasing this one. Looks like a Sony X1 will eventually be in my future
Thanks for the reply.
3G???
I had it on auto all day, but no little 3G icon. I know there is coverage, becuase my TYTN and even my blackjack picked it up right away. I guess I'll just keep looking..........
AT&T 3G
I am usually indicating 3G or H. I have it set to auto and it semms to be working fine for me.
mpf54 said:
I am usually indicating 3G or H. I have it set to auto and it semms to be working fine for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too have found you need to leave the phone set to Auto. A soft reset after you change it from manual selection to auto gets me the 3G back immediately on boot up.
ATT 3G
I have ATT 3G & H in some areas when I travel but my home area does not have 3G coverage only EDGE at the moment. It depends on ATT's coverage whether you will get 3G or H. The phone is fully capable to work with ATT.
got my Orbit 2 today, and HSDPA & UMTS are working fine (in dallas)...
using a polaris with at&t in buffalo, ny. 3g and HSPDA work fine in most areas. sometimes if i go deep within a building it will swtich to edge which is normal.
3G!
cortezzi said:
When you say "configured to the correct frequency for att's 3G", did you manually set the Band to 1900 mHz? or do you have it set to Automatic? for all my HTC devices that support 3G, i set the Band to Automatic and it will pick up and use the att 3G/H band automatically. i only see the "H" when i'm tethered to my laptop or downloading a 1 meg + file.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well now that I put everything on auto and soft reset I am gettin 3G and H UMPTS all over the place. Thanks!
I remember that it was once touted that the phone would handle HSUPA.
Any idea whether it does?
coolVariable said:
I remember that it was once touted that the phone would handle HSUPA.
Any idea whether it does?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This should probably be in kaiser general, as it has nothing to do w/ cooking.
thought that it likely needs to be enabled via a rom hack/update.
My Kaiser is currently getting 754Kb down / 320Kb up at the airport in Atlanta (sharing internet via wifi to my laptop)
AT&T is currently in the process of upgrading their network nationwide to support much higher upload and download speeds. Check out this Engadget link. Can you say 20mbps 3G?
ATT is actually refering to the new network as 3.5G it will be available in 20 major metropolitan areas by the end of the year. Regular 3g will be available in 120 new locations in the same time frame.
HSUPA does work and I have used it as it is avalible on the Rogers network in Toronto and Calgary. The TyTN II, Kaiser, Tilt... will always show "E" as in edge, but will flip to "H" only if you are connecting and HSUPA/HSDPA is avalible. Some ROMs have an option to turn on or off the HSUPA feature but the stock Tilt ROM was setup to use that network right away.
Dangerously said:
HSUPA does work and I have used it as it is avalible on the Rogers network in Toronto and Calgary. The TyTN II, Kaiser, Tilt... will always show "E" as in edge, but will flip to "H" only if you are connecting and HSUPA/HSDPA is avalible. Some ROMs have an option to turn on or off the HSUPA feature but the stock Tilt ROM was setup to use that network right away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is going to be a silly question, but I will ask anyway. I'm on AT&T. Where I live my game room gets 3G now suddenly. No other rooms gets it but this one. I'm very excited about it. When they do this roll out, does that mean that places that are on the border with 3G like my house, will get engulfed in it or does it just mean that the areas that currently have will be faster. I hope that my question makes sense.
Thanks
Hey all!
i need some help guys, i cant make my 3g/hsdpa internet work on my phone. im stuck with a "e" meaning im using edge and never seen the "H" or "3g" icon to use high speed internet.
ive been reading about flashing, and roms and whatnot and i think im in the right place on how to fix it, but have no idea where to even begin..
if someone can help...greatttly appreciated.....
ie. which rom works, how to install etc..
thankx
If you bought a touch pro and not an at&t fuze you cannot use 3g on your phone on the rogers network.
Rogers uses the 850 band for 3G and the touch pro does not support 8503g. if you have the at&t fuze it supports the 850 3g band and should work no matter what rom you use because 3g frequency support is hardware dependant not software.
so theres basically NOTHING i can do about this problem?
Unless you have superior abilities (borderline God-like) in the art of persuasion and are able to get the folks at Rogers to see the wisdom in offering 850 Band support for 3G ... sadly, no.
Speng2 said:
so theres basically NOTHING i can do about this problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well the only real valid solution would be to sell the touch pro, and then buy an AT&T fuze.
Mine is a Fuze and I have the same problem.
I was using a May version of Energy Titanium ROM and had always an H (HSDPA), I am living in the same house, place the phone at the same place, the only thing I changed was upgrading to Jun version of Energy Titanium ROM, now I got only E (Edge) no matter if I turn 3G On/Off, set Advanced Network HSDPA On/Off.
I use Titanium because I love SPB Shell, Senses are too slow for me.
Radio: 1.08.25.20M1 (the same on both ROMs) +Rilphone.dll
Is a ROM issue?
Please help!
no one help?
any link to flash back to May13th Energy ROM?
Moved as not ROM Development.
my magic 32A can not use the 3G, if i choose the 3G net, the phone will have no signal. now i have to use the 2G only. is it the problem of radio? should i flash the radio? where can i download the radio 3.22.20.17 for 32A?
shadowzhou35 said:
my magic 32A can not use the 3G, if i choose the 3G net, the phone will have no signal. now i have to use the 2G only. is it the problem of radio? should i flash the radio? where can i download the radio 3.22.20.17 for 32A?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please not that if you are on T-Mobile USA's network there is a 10gb soft data cap implemented so that if you go over 10gb you may be forced back to the edge network until your next billing cycle. If you are on another network I cannot speak to their data terms of service.
shadowzhou35 said:
my magic 32A can not use the 3G, if i choose the 3G net, the phone will have no signal. now i have to use the 2G only. is it the problem of radio? should i flash the radio? where can i download the radio 3.22.20.17 for 32A?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the magic does have too strong a preference for 3G networks. I've heard of similar cases where people have a really weak 3G connection and a strong 2G connection. Still the phones chooses the useless 3G connection.
Is it like this everywhere or just at one location?
Per.
perbu said:
I think the magic does have too strong a preference for 3G networks. I've heard of similar cases where people have a really weak 3G connection and a strong 2G connection. Still the phones chooses the useless 3G connection.
Is it like this everywhere or just at one location?
Per.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I cannot connect 3G network anywhere.
Whats your network? T-Mo?
perbu said:
I've heard of similar cases where people have a really weak 3G connection and a strong 2G connection. Still the phones chooses the useless 3G connection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I am indeed in this condition ... often the phone tries to select a useless (very weak) 3G connection and ends with a "X" on the signal bar before going back to 2G, then again 3G -> X -> 2G. It's very frustrating: the only fix is to lock the phone into 2G.
Maybe this is the same problem as the original poster (he should try in a well-known 3G area to be sure): do you know perhaps if there's some way to fix this changing the 3G/2G priority ? Like editing the build.prop, kernel parameters, or whatever
Just thought I should bring this up. I have noticed that most of the builds does not support HSDPA which is a faster version of UMTS data networks, (check Wikipedia for more information).
I have first noticed it after flashing KingxKxRom, which is the only Rom - that I have tested - that supports HSDPA. Maxisma, Ccyrowski, Cyanogen, and Enomther Builds do not support it for some reason!!!
Correct me if I’m wrong; Hero, Magic, and the Dream do support it by hardware. So I wonder; where the Ball was dropped , or is it just that Kingklick is using a different base for his build, or is it a kernel matter.
This was bothering me for several days and after a lot of research I could not find the reason behind it. I’m not a Rom developer by all means; just thought developers could shed some light about it.
This has been discussed previously. HSDPA is actually supported in those ROMs, however the "3G" icon doesn't change when you are connected on a network with HSDPA coverage. I guess this is because HSDPA is just another type of 3G, so its not necessary, its just an indicator of a faster "3G" connection also known as "3.5G".
Hope this helps.
edit: if you get download speeds higher than 384kbps then you are connected on a network with HSDPA support, you can actually test it using a speedtest.net app on the market.
The issue is not the icon, withier you review the settings>about or use *#*#info#*#* command it clearly state what type of network you are connected to. I have also tested the speed and it does vary.
I have no idea how any ROMs would not 'support' HSDPA, as it would depend on what hardware you're using and your carrier's network.
If it makes you feel better CyanogenMod most definitely does as I'm using it right now and I'm on a UMTS network. I think you're confusing the network type with the protocols used to get you your data.
I am using CyanogenMod's latest rom and im getting some great speeds on the web 3mb- 5mb download speeds!
As I understand HSPDA is an upgrade to UMTS, if your hardware and network supports HSPDA you will be connected to it, otherwise you will use UMTS only. That’s why I think it has to do with the kernel used rather than the build itself. It did actually show that HSDPA is used in Kingxkx Rom.
and I did try CyanogenMod's but it does not switch to HSPDA.
rex05 said:
I am using CyanogenMod's latest rom and im getting some great speeds on the web 3mb- 5mb download speeds!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what phone are you using; im using the Dream.
If you see the H symbol then you are getting 3g also some states dont get 3g yet or have some crappy service.
I can tell you for sure that they all support HSPA. My Touch Pro 2 has a "H" icon and clearly states HSPA (aka HSDPA/HSUPA) network. Right next to it is my G1... which says connected to UMTS w/ the 3G icon. Both test at around 700-1100 kbps download and 200-500kbps upload. Those are clearly HSPA speeds and not UMTS which tops around 400kbps download.
I have used a few ROMs that have the H icon and it makes no difference in speed. It's just for looks.
sino8r said:
I can tell you for sure that they all support HSPA. My Touch Pro 2 has a "H" icon and clearly states HSPA (aka HSDPA/HSUPA) network. Right next to it is my G1... which says connected to UMTS w/ the 3G icon. Both test at around 700-1100 kbps download and 200-500kbps upload. Those are clearly HSPA speeds and not UMTS which tops around 400kbps download.
I have used a few ROMs that have the H icon and it makes no difference in speed. It's just for looks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some people prefer the 3g icon thouch i think the H looks better on hero roms
Maybe I took the wrong approach in discussing this, although the main use of HSPDA is Data, Telephony could use the protocols as well. I did a small test of not connecting to Data, by deleting the APN for it, or by un-checking the “connect to network” option. It still shows the phone is connected to HSPDA vs UMTS or GSM network!! That is in Kings Rom vs. Other Rom’s. Any Ideas?
Nasrat said:
As I understand HSPDA is an upgrade to UMTS, if your hardware and network supports HSPDA you will be connected to it, otherwise you will use UMTS only. That’s why I think it has to do with the kernel used rather than the build itself. It did actually show that HSDPA is used in Kingxkx Rom.
and I did try CyanogenMod's but it does not switch to HSPDA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I'd better sue Vodafone then for selling me a phone that supports HSDPA when it doesn't!
On a more serious note, HSPA is a packet access protocol used over a UMTS network for data, not a network type. Just because you're getting the '3G' icon doesn't mean you're not getting HSPA throughput.
Unimaginative said:
Well I'd better sue Vodafone then for selling me a phone that supports HSDPA when it doesn't!
On a more serious note, HSPA is a packet access protocol used over a UMTS network for data, not a network type. Just because you're getting the '3G' icon doesn't mean you're not getting HSPA throughput.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your effort so far. Forget the icons "3G" or "H" that’s not my issue. Without connecting to data either; why when I use kings Rom in the setting/about section it shows network type as HSPDA, but when I use any other Rom it shows UMTS. Giving that I didn’t move and in the same place.
Nasrat said:
Thanks for your effort so far. Forget the icons "3G" or "H" that’s not my issue. Without connecting to data either; why when I use kings Rom in the setting/about section it shows network type as HSPDA, but when I use any other Rom it shows UMTS. Giving that I didn’t move and in the same place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh, now I get you. That is interesting though. I've only ever got UMTS as my network type but I definitely get HSPA rates so I took it as a given. Was there any correlation between using a certain type of ROM (like Hero vs. AOSP) where the difference appeared? . I remember trying a Hero ROM once and getting the 'H' icon instead of '3G' so maybe it's specific to those. Wish I'd checked Phone Status now...
It's possible kingklick made some form of modification to get the point across in his ROM, or possibly different APN settings he specifically uses. Kind of doubt it though.
Unimaginative said:
Ahh, now I get you. That is interesting though. I've only ever got UMTS as my network type but I definitely get HSPA rates so I took it as a given. Was there any correlation between using a certain type of ROM (like Hero vs. AOSP) where the difference appeared? . I remember trying a Hero ROM once and getting the 'H' icon instead of '3G' so maybe it's specific to those. Wish I'd checked Phone Status now...
It's possible kingklick made some form of modification to get the point across in his ROM, or possibly different APN settings he specifically uses. Kind of doubt it though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree I think it’s something that King did, or it relates to Rom’s based off a phone other than dream, I just flashed back a rooted stock 1.6 ADP DRC83 and it showed me UMTS, so it’s not the fault of the Rom developers I guess. I will try to test this further and I wish if king or other developers could further explain it.
Edit: found no correlation to what the Rom is based off; tried a magic, a hero, a dream based Rom’s and they all show UMTS, only Kings Rom show HSPDA, I will try to PM him tomorrow and find out if it’s only a naming thing or if he did something else.
I've had several diff roms show hsxpa in the status screen, it just matches the icon (eg replace the build.prop to get h versus 3g icons and you'll see the network type change in status too)
All the first hero builds did it as well as all Haykuro's orig Magic to Dream port
Also a stock Rogers Dream shows HSDPA. Here in the US they dumb things down for us by just calling it 3G or if you're real technical UMTS. However in Europe, Canada, and most of the rest of the developed world it is called what it truly is, HSDPA. When you see UMTS in there that is because it is a broader category. The same way EDGE is just an extension on 2G GSM (EDGE is 2.5G), HSDPA is an extension on the original UMTS 3G system (HSUPA & HSDPA are 3.5G)
Nasrat said:
Maybe I took the wrong approach in discussing this, although the main use of HSPDA is Data, Telephony could use the protocols as well. I did a small test of not connecting to Data, by deleting the APN for it, or by un-checking the “connect to network” option. It still shows the phone is connected to HSPDA vs UMTS or GSM network!! That is in Kings Rom vs. Other Rom’s. Any Ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Plain and simple it does not matter what the phone shows 3g or H if you are in an area with the HSDPA you will have the higher speed data. All HTC androids at least, do have the hardware for it. As far as voice over HSDPA that is not currently enabled yet until the HSDPA is fully up and functional. If you are not getting High speed 3g then you are most likely in an area that does not support it or the connections are maxed out and you are defaulting to the standard 3g network.
aad4321 said:
i would like to see a different logo, ex "3G' or "H" when i connect to tmobiles new HSDPA+ which has much faster speeds...is this possible?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
very, someone just has to program it
The difference is the Radio Interface Library. As far as I know the htc source libraries distinguish HSDPA.
http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/development/pdk/docs/telephony.html
system/lib:
libhtc_ril.so
libreference-ril.so
libril.so
You could try pushing HTC sourced RIL libraries to these other builds but the source code isn't available as far as I know.