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Fuze doesn't use 3G after flashing Romeos?

So I flashed Romeos2 to my new Fuze. It works fine, and the 3G logo went away and was replaced with the H logo. However, now when I use data, it is painfully slow. I'm assuming that its using edge - anyone have this issue? Any solution? I have the PDA data plan.

is it possible tha ROMeOS is meant for euro and asian Touch pro's meaning it wont get the 3G working in the US
TBH you should post this in the ROMeOS forum

You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.

Dramacydle said:
You should also make sure that your data settings are set up properly for AT&T. They may not be after the flash.
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i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~

baboola said:
i just flashed the rom. I haven't really noticed any change in speed. but can you please explain how to check the setting, and what they should be? Thanks~
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do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.

Isnt the H for HSDPA which is faster than 3G? Mines been doing the same thing.

i have the same problem. (no 3G or HSDPA only GPRS/EDGE)
tried 3 different roms and 3 different radios (with the .32 i didn't get any http connection at all, but icq etc. worked)
i have an german tp without branding ...

solved my problem ... 3G was deaktivated (default by the provider [o2])

venelar said:
do a search for htc connection setup. that will give you the proper network settings.
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so I did a search and found multiple .cab files for it. How do I know which one is good for AT&T? Does anyone know if ROMeOS2 supports AT&T connection properly?

H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
E stands for EDGE.
G stands for GRPS.
When I installed ROMeOS on my Fuze, there was a connection window that popped up that had country and carrier drop down boxes. Try going through the connection settings and see if you can find something like that.

drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
G stands for EDGE, which is what you'll see when you're not in a 3G area.
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HSDPA is the high-speed version of UMTS/WCDMA/3G.
G stands for GPRS.
E stands for EGPRS or EDGE meaning high-speed GPRS.

I was just logging in to correct myself! Thanks ;-)

drok77 said:
H stands for HSDPA, which is a technical term for 3G.
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This is incorrect. 3G is the blanket term used for high speed mobile data. If you have an ATT branded phone and it shows 3G then you are on a UMTS (universal mobile telecommunications system) network which is slower than HSDPA (which stands for high speed download packet access) but still faster thank EDGE or EGPRS or whatever you want to call it. However, when I tested RomeOS on my Fuze, I too got the H symbol instead of a 3G one. I am fairly certain that in order to make the Fuze less confusing, an ATT branded Fuze will show 3G for both UMTS and HSDPA. I am now back on a modified ATT ROM by NotaTreoFan and it shows 3G when I am in the same spot at my highschool's cafeteria as where RomeOS showed an H. Hope this clears things up (or possibly makes them more confusing).
Edit: Looks like we all wanted to correct it

Better call quality on 3g than 2g

I notice that forcing 2g, calls get that kinda pulsating GSM radio interference noise whereas forcing 3g it does not occur!!!
Anyone else notice this?!!

strung said:
I notice that forcing 2g, calls get that kinda pulsating GSM radio interference noise whereas forcing 3g it does not occur!!!
Anyone else notice this?!!
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i thought 3g, 4g, 2g or what ever was for data purposes only....

laker666 said:
i thought 3g, 4g, 2g or what ever was for data purposes only....
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From what I understand, 4g is 3g, they are HSPA and HSPA+. 2G is GSM. So there are two separate radios in your phone and on the towers.
I just tested this on my phone and can confirm that 3G is a lot less noisier call-quality wise than 2G.

Voice uses 3G as well. TMO throttled back 2G a while back to make 3G faster, so using any phone on 2G mode nowadays is gonna suck more than it would otherwise.

zaventh said:
Voice uses 3G as well. TMO throttled back 2G a while back to make 3G faster, so using any phone on 2G mode nowadays is gonna suck more than it would otherwise.
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if that is the case how come i can turn of my data and stilll make crystal clear phone calls? not saying you are wrong just trying to understand

strung said:
I notice that forcing 2g, calls get that kinda pulsating GSM radio interference noise whereas forcing 3g it does not occur!!!
Anyone else notice this?!!
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Yep.. 2G / EDGE uses the older GSM data transmission standard, while 3G/4G uses CDMA technology to transmit data.

T-Mobile uses all GSM technology. CDMA is something totally different and is used by Verizon/Sprint in the US.
I'm not a radio engineering expert, but the main difference between 2G and 3G is the protocol. 3G uses more efficient algorithms to compress/decompress the audio (and data) signals. This is the primary reason 3G is faster than 2G to begin with. T-Mobile uses 3G for voice, which means that, in general, calls will LIKELY sound clearly and crisper on 3G than 2G, on average. This is all dependent on network conditions, your 2G signal, your 3G signal, your particular handset, and your own hearing capabilities and preferences. But the idea is like an Mp3 encoding... 3G is 320kbps and 2G is 128kbps... maybe sometimes they sound the same to some people, but technically 3G is "better" under ideal circumstances.
But the 2G throttling I was remembering was actually AT&T, not T-Mobile, though they likely have done something to a similar effect by now.
http://www.ofb.biz/safari/article/512.html

wcdma is 3/4g

zaventh said:
T-Mobile uses all GSM technology. CDMA is something totally different and is used by Verizon/Sprint in the US.
I'm not a radio engineering expert, but the main difference between 2G and 3G is the protocol. 3G uses more efficient algorithms to compress/decompress the audio (and data) signals. This is the primary reason 3G is faster than 2G to begin with. T-Mobile uses 3G for voice, which means that, in general, calls will LIKELY sound clearly and crisper on 3G than 2G, on average. This is all dependent on network conditions, your 2G signal, your 3G signal, your particular handset, and your own hearing capabilities and preferences. But the idea is like an Mp3 encoding... 3G is 320kbps and 2G is 128kbps... maybe sometimes they sound the same to some people, but technically 3G is "better" under ideal circumstances.
But the 2G throttling I was remembering was actually AT&T, not T-Mobile, though they likely have done something to a similar effect by now.
http://www.ofb.biz/safari/article/512.html
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my question is if 2g and 3/4g have any effect on call quality, how can i receive crystal clear call quality with my data turned off. im not sure 2g, 3g, or 4g have any effect on call quality

None of your voice goes through your data connection. The ONLY way there is any difference is if there is some kind of electromagnetic interference from inside the phone caused by 2G and not by 4G.
As stated above, All voice calls and SMS come through without a data connection at all.

r4d14n7 said:
None of your voice goes through your data connection. The ONLY way there is any difference is if there is some kind of electromagnetic interference from inside the phone caused by 2G and not by 4G.
As stated above, All voice calls and SMS come through without a data connection at all.
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Disabling data does not mean you disconnect from the 3G/4G network. Turn mobile data off and then look under Settings>About Phone>Status, and look at Mobile Network Type. You're phone is still connected to UMTS/HSPA/EDGE/GPRS ... or whatever other type of network it was connected to. And you're not connected to both 2G and 3G simultaneously. Its one or the other and all data and phone transmissions are sent over whichever network you're connected to.

phburks said:
Disabling data does not mean you disconnect from the 3G/4G network. Turn mobile data off and then look under Settings>About Phone>Status, and look at Mobile Network Type. You're phone is still connected to UMTS/HSPA/EDGE/GPRS ... or whatever other type of network it was connected to. And you're not connected to both 2G and 3G simultaneously. Its one or the other and all data and phone transmissions are sent over whichever network you're connected to.
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Ah, fair enough. I was under the impression that voice always went through a GSM connection, whether WCDMA was active or not. Has this changed in the last few years?

r4d14n7 said:
Ah, fair enough. I was under the impression that voice always went through a GSM connection, whether WCDMA was active or not. Has this changed in the last few years?
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Don't think it's ever been that way. Phones will switch from one type of mobile network to another depending on user settings and signal strength, but you're only connected to one type of network at any given time. GSM networks utilize 2G technologies to allow for voice and data, but not simultaneously. GSM networks also utilize 3G/4G technologies to allow voice and data simultaneously.

Here's a good source of info on different technologies used by GSM networks:
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/index.htm

My bad. Thanks for the link though.

When on 2g my speakers of my surround sound and car audio will make static from the phone... 3g doesn't do this. 2g and 3g are different.
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So - on an Android phone, do I need to check "Data Enabled" for the better voice quality, or will the 3G/4G for better voice be enabled by default?

No, enabling or disabling your mobile data connection will not affect call quality directly. Your device will connect to the best network available regardless of data being enabled. The only setting you can look at is your preferred network type under mobile network settings.

[Q] Poor signal strength compared to other devices?

Hi,
I just bought my One S (had a Desire before that) and Im very happy with it, except for the signal and especially the mobile internet. I always had 3+ signal bars in my house, now I have 1 or sometimes none. I use my phone at school to google some stuff but while other devices (Blackberry Bold, S4 mini) can acess the internet I have no connection. Sometimes I have 2 bars and E(DGE) but my browser or Whatsapp wont work.
My friends have always 3G/H and inside the school I never have more than E, but I set my phone to GSM/WCDMA auto.
Sometimes the phone loses the connections even on flat areas like fields.
Is there a way to improve my signal strength? A new Radio ROM?
P.S: My One S has the S4, everything original and no root, S-ON

What software version are you on? And what carrier?
Mine has way better signal than my sisters S3 and it's about equal to my girlfriends Iphone4s, but we're on Telus/Bell network which has HSPA only, no 2g network, so I set it to WCDMA only. I haven't had any problems with reception dropping or data drops at all, but I've heard of some issues with the same phone on the Rogers network which has 2g as well like some of the US carriers.

Software Version: 3.16.401.9
HTC SDK API: 4.63
Baseband: 1.15.50.05.29_10.30.50.08L
Thats all I found under Software...
Im from Germany and I dont know if youre familiar with the carriers here, but I use congstar therefore the D1-network of the german Telekom which is pretty good here. Look like Im on the newest RadioROM, so how to improve my connection?

Looks like I'm on an older radio starts with 1.11 instead of 1.15. Does your network have regular gsm?
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I can use EDGE when setting my phone to GSM only, but I have not more than 2 bars even outdoors...on WCDMA only I have none or 1 bar outdoor, in buildings: no connection. So yes, I have GSM and WCDMA.

Well I don't know, you could try rooting and flashing a different radio, and some build.prop tweaks that affect the connection, but there is no guarantee that will fix it. Is it still under warranty? Rooting may be risky if you're still under warranty. Could try talking to your carrier and see if they can do anything.

[q] hsdpa+/hspa+

Hello guys
In 3G Networking on Galaxy Note 10.1 one can force either connectivity on 3G (WCDMA) or 2G (GSM). But as long as I want to use the tablet on 3G being forced on WCDMA, the network keeps changing between 3G, H and H+. I know that making calls forces the network to 3G mode. However, internet can be surfed on all 3G, H and H+ networks.
My question: is there any method available to force the Note 10.1 to connect on H+?
Thank you ^_^

tweetatoo said:
But as long as I want to use the tablet on 3G being forced on WCDMA, the network keeps changing between 3G, H and H+. ... My question: is there any method available to force the Note 10.1 to connect on H+?
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You almost certainly don't want that- as you'd lose connectivity outright all those times you're not showing "H+" on your service display.
The radio isn't just switching between modes for no reason- it's doing its best to retain connectivity depending on signal conditions.

kcrudup said:
You almost certainly don't want that- as you'd lose connectivity outright all those times you're not showing "H+" on your service display.
The radio isn't just switching between modes for no reason- it's doing its best to retain connectivity depending on signal conditions.
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Yes, I know
Just like forcing 3G in an area with weak 3G coverage. But at the end, 3G is forced so that a download does not get interrupted in case of auto-switching.
BTW, I want to force H+ in an area with strong H+ coverage. What happens is that it keeps switching to H and sometimes to 3G just because it is a bit stronger
Though H+ has a very strong coverage in the area.

3G or better

Has anyone found a way to tell the radio to allow 3g or better connections?
My carrier has crappy voice quality over 2G and during the N4 days I used to set 3G only.
Now with the Nexus 5 I don't want to loose LTE connectivity, so I'm looking for a way to tell the modem to use UMTS or LTE connections only.

georgemv said:
Has anyone found a way to tell the radio to allow 3g or better connections?
My carrier has crappy voice quality over 2G and during the N4 days I used to set 3G only.
Now with the Nexus 5 I don't want to loose LTE connectivity, so I'm looking for a way to tell the modem to use UMTS or LTE connections only.
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I don't believe there is any mod for this as of yet. You'd have to lock to wcdma (hspa+) or leave it as is with edge/wcdma/lte. The only other thing i could think of is some sort of apn configuration to achieve your desired result. You would have to speak with technical support of your carrier to see.
Hope this helps