I have just bought a new TMobile Vario 4 from the UK (HTC TOUCH PRO T7272) I am working and currenlty live in Canada - I have returned and have noticed that I no longer get 3g or HSDPA as a data connection - I am using NRG v2 ROM and have flashed 2 radios however have no luck cathcing a 3g data connection! I have been searching online and here and seem to get some stories that it maybe hardware - can anyone confirm if there is anything i can do?
Cheers - hope I havent bought a ferrari only to have a mini engine in it!
Mods can you move this to the ROM forum as i think it maybe a more techincal focussed question than general
Cheers
JPHCCFC said:
I have just bought a new TMobile Vario 4 from the UK (HTC TOUCH PRO T7272) I am working and currenlty live in Canada - I have returned and have noticed that I no longer get 3g or HSDPA as a data connection - I am using NRG v2 ROM and have flashed 2 radios however have no luck cathcing a 3g data connection! I have been searching online and here and seem to get some stories that it maybe hardware - can anyone confirm if there is anything i can do?
Cheers - hope I havent bought a ferrari only to have a mini engine in it!
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I'm fairly certain the Vario is Europe/Asia 3G meaning 900/2100Mhz 3G. In Canada on Rogers/Fido (and AT&T in the US) we use 1800Mhz 3G.
The best you will get is an edge connection. If you need a 3G phone that works in north America too go across the border (hopefully you work/live near one) and pickup an AT&T Fuze.
IndustryCanada said:
I'm fairly certain the Vario is Europe/Asia 3G meaning 900/2100Mhz 3G. In Canada on Rogers/Fido (and AT&T in the US) we use 1800Mhz 3G.
The best you will get is an edge connection. If you need a 3G phone that works in north America too go across the border (hopefully you work/live near one) and pickup an AT&T Fuze.
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Thanks for the response
This is the one I have http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1320&c=t-mobile_mda_vario_iv_htc_raphael - it says that it supports GSM 1800! I took out the battery and it says RAPH 300 - If i select GSM UTMS Band of 900+1800 and UMTS 2100(Worl) in the phone settings i get no network connection? Im confused now - I could get HSDPA and 3G with my T Mobile Vario 3 - trying to do some digging on what specifically RAPH 300 refers too as information and actual phone activity seems to be contradictory! Any ideas of the meaning of RAPH 300?
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Hey Guys,
Ive upgraded to the latest Vodafone WM6 ROM and was expecting to be able to get HSDPA connections, I live in Basingstoke and should (according to Vodas coverage map) be able to get HSDPA. I have also tried in Reading Newbury and Central London.
The max speed I can actually get is around 200kbits (average is about 140kbits) and I never get an "H" symbol just the usual "3g" one. Speeds were tested on the dsl reports mobile speed test with 100k download. http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Can anyone on the Vodafone UK network get an HSDPA connection? I have complained to Vodafone but they are useless.
I also found out that Vodafones network is currently being upgraded to support HSDPA data and Voice simultaneously.
I have a feeling HSDPA is currently still off on the UK Vodafone flavor of the ROM but it would be nice to have this clarified.
All opinions welcome......... Thanks in Advance.
Hi.. Can't help you with Vodafone but I'm on Orange with a wm6 750v and only get the 3g icon but it does use the orange HSDPA network when i connect to the internet. Much quicker than when I was on wm5 and could only get UTMS, think you get the 3g icon with wm6 whatever network it uses but I could be wrong. There was talk that Orange and Voda were going to mix their 3g networks for better coverage, maybe it has something to do with that?
Hi, I'm on Vodafone UK (contract). I was hoping for WM6 to have HSDPA natively on this ROM, but I too only ever saw the 3G symbol. Out of frustration I re applied the HSDPA hack for WM5.
Sure enough - HSDPA is present. It shows 3G, then when data is actively moving - it changes to a H.
I've done speed tests and can get over 700k download speeds.
I live in the Durham area with 100% HSDPA coverage.
After applying the hack, or after a reset - reset it again - for some reason it takes 2 soft resets for it to "take".
But you need to apply the old hack.
Hope that helps you!
Ive upgraded to wm6 on 750v but still needed to apply this to get 700+kbit/sec
http://www.gadgetech.info/treo/hacks/hsdpa/
'H' all the way now
Be warned - rumour has it that using HSPDA on 750v causes voicecalls issues (ie you wont get any if push email occurs) in certain parts of UK on voda network.
Cheers for the input guys,
Im a little bit upset that HSDPA has not been included in the UK 750V ROM-- I know why because Vodafones network isnt upgraded yet--- but palm could of at least told us this was the case!!
Sooo are we expecting another ROM update when Vodafones network is ready?
Would be nice to get some clarification!.
HSDPA is there. I installed the Vodafone ROM (though I did remove the extended ROM) on my generic 750. Not to rub salt in the wound, but I am on 3 and dslreports is showing me connected at 900-1015kb/s.
I haven't experienced the issue of having a HSDPA push connection and have voice quality issues. I am on the phone most of the day with email constantly coming through.
Works for me
Ok so I have the Vodafone WM6 legit Rom and the HSDPA patch/hack installed and it works fine. When I make or recieve a call on the phone whilst browsing it drops the connection down to 3G as shown by the symbol (changes from H to 3G) then when the call is ended it changes back! Battery drain is exactly the same as using 3G but I am getting speeds on Vodafone in Sheffield of up to 1mbs
If I find I have any problems I will let you all know!
My 750v is unlocked and I'm using it on 3 in the UK with the WM6 upgrade. Get great HSDPA speeds now. No need to get the hack (which never worked for me on WM5 anyway).
I thought it worked!
Ok so I was sending a large email the other day (3mbs attachment) and I tried to make a call while it was sending the mail over the HSDPA. The phone tried to dial and then hung up. I tried to call the number again and got the same thing! I stopped the email sending and even though it was not transmitting any data I still could not make a call! I disconnected the data connection and making a call was fine, it worked 1st time!
I have since uninstalled the hack at it works fine now over 3G speeds!
What a shame, I want HSDPA back
I'm in central London (W10 and SW1) in areas listed on Vodafone's site as being in HSDPA coverage. Although I have WM6 installed I have never seen 'H'. I'm wary of the hack after comments above describing problems.
Vodafone have no answer for my issue.
Has anyone on a WM6 hack-less 750v picked up HSDPA in London/UK yet?
Vodafone's HSDPA Roadmap
MECX said:
Hey Guys,
Ive upgraded to the latest Vodafone WM6 ROM and was expecting to be able to get HSDPA connections, I live in Basingstoke and should (according to Vodas coverage map) be able to get HSDPA. I have also tried in Reading Newbury and Central London.
The max speed I can actually get is around 200kbits (average is about 140kbits) and I never get an "H" symbol just the usual "3g" one. Speeds were tested on the dsl reports mobile speed test with 100k download. http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Can anyone on the Vodafone UK network get an HSDPA connection? I have complained to Vodafone but they are useless.
I also found out that Vodafones network is currently being upgraded to support HSDPA data and Voice simultaneously.
I have a feeling HSDPA is currently still off on the UK Vodafone flavor of the ROM but it would be nice to have this clarified.
All opinions welcome......... Thanks in Advance.
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Check this out mate HSDPA for Vodafone
HTC Touch Cruise(On it's Way)
Palm Treo 750V
AT&T 2.25 ROM Vanilla
CE OS 5.2.1620(Build 18125.0.4.2)
Software Version - TREO750-2.25-ATT
Firmware Version - 1.54.27.00
CC-Cap - 000-000-001
Carrier DB - 335
Radio Band
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS 2100
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
Free Memory
Storage - 55.31
Program - 27.78 MB
I'm afraid that link is dead and there doesn't seem to be a related article on that site.
Hey folks, I've had the TYTN II connected to ROGERS (in Canada) via 3G for about a year now without any difficulties. I've swapped the SIM card into my new Touch Pro and it's only registering as EDGE. I've tried setting up a 3G connection in properties and everything, but it STILL only recognizes edge for the most-part. I've seen a couple of occasions when it said "G" in the top bar, but mostly E (99% of the time)
Any ideas on if there is a configuration problem? Or what I should do next?
A software update should hopefully fix this problem; just awaiting the final release of hardspl
well i know you cant get 3g in america because of band frequencies being different but what is rogers on? the touch pro can only do 2100mhz band for UMTS
I thought the UMTS frequencies were the same fro all of North America. I could be thinking about gprs. I know that hardspl is soon to be released from what i've been reading so we will know soon enough :-D
UMTS 850 and 1900 are available in the band selection screen HOWEVER the current stock radio and ROM combination doesnt work with it.
There IS a radio update around which has a minor update to the version number and protocol so im gonna guess it MAY help with this. The radio was bundled along with the cingular test update posted earlier this month.
Not recommended to update it yet though...wait til HardSPL is out so nothing dies
thanks
Thanks guys -- Do you think I should wait before I sell this Raphael to make sure its NOT compatible with the North American network?
I find it hard to believe that it would not be globally compatible with 3G networks around the world. Hopefully it just needs a ROM update (either radio/OS) to make it start working in 3g in North America
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Thanks guys -- Do you think I should wait before I sell this Raphael to make sure its NOT compatible with the North American network?
I find it hard to believe that it would not be globally compatible with 3G networks around the world. Hopefully it just needs a ROM update (either radio/OS) to make it start working in 3g in North America
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Wait, dont jump ship so quickly
Considering there are already TWO RUUs out ther for AT&T/Cingular its a pretty good bet an update will solve it
Wouldn't the world be a better place if there weren't so many different 3G frequencies?
Smaniac said:
Wouldn't the world be a better place if there weren't so many different 3G frequencies?
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Yes it definitely would! When is HardSPL due out for this phone?
MMac said:
Yes it definitely would! When is HardSPL due out for this phone?
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Check the forum section under "Raphael ROM Development", there's a thread.
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
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Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
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Same thing with T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T network. Compare Rogers and Telus 3G bands. It might be different.
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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lol yeah I think so. I think its called 1x or something like that. I'm not very familiar with the CDMA phones but they advertise that you can use the phone to surf 3G speeds on their network so I'm pretty sure they have 3G speeds.
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
slight22 said:
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
Telus EVDO is not slow. Unfortunately the HDPA network is not up yet but it should be online VERY soon as the Olympics are drawing close and this is the reason why Telus is upgrading the network before Feb. 2010 here in Vancouver.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
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Where the heck are you located?? I'm using a TP2 with full EV signal and i'm getting 400-600k and that's in the downtown core. And from what telus tells me thats the best they can do till they put the HSPA network up. They said CDMA is only capable of 7-750k max, there is no getting over that. But i'd love to know how your getting 2.8 meg, because technically thats roughly 2100k faster than what telus says we can get.
And Jessie is right Telus has a goal to sell phones during the olympics and they plan to have the HSPA up by then.
Yup I'm pretty sure I saw Telus advertising their high speed somewhere
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
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Go to Phone Settings and select the Network tab then select GSM only instead of Global or CDMA
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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It is quadband gsm.... works on all continents.... provided it is unlocked or you are paying for global roaming.
hello guys, im going to purchase verizon tp2 cause they say it supports gsm and cheaper than the generic nonbranded version. tmobile's design i dislike. so as im going to use it only with gsm sim, i have such questions, are there any differences in use between gsm and vzw versions except i must select gsm mode? can i flash it with generic tp2 roms?
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okay, seems to be cdma versions cant be flashed to gsm as it is another model id(rhod400 and rhod500)
so i have one more question, will i be able to use internet on vzw tp2 without any restrictions on its stock rom now, when hardspl have not been released yet?
Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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I dont think so. I dont think there's a PRO 2 that supports our North American 3G bands.. At least not yet.. For the question above. Yes it is GSM quadband but not 3G quadband. This is different. It is 3G dualband and supports those of Asia and Europe only. Unfortunately.
That's a good and clear answer! Thx !
No problem. I think when and if AT&T or some North American GSM carrier releases the TP2, then the 3G will definitely work here in NA. Otherwise the current versions only support Asia and Europe.
Another question, can we install a custom ROM on the worldphone telus Touch Pro 2 like the other GSM phones? (I dont think so but I found two opposite answers on this forum).
Hi all,
is anybody of you having Problems with receiving LTE?
I am using O2 Network in Germany. I can see that I only have LTE in similar Areas. I guess it's always there where LTE is working within 800 mhz. So I remember that the one mini is able to working at each german LTE frequency. I am wondering that in Citys where O2 offers LTE I do not get it.
Sombody having ideas? Someone having the same Problems?
Thx ahead
Kuckuck
kuckuckmann said:
Hi all,
is anybody of you having Problems with receiving LTE?
I am using O2 Network in Germany. I can see that I only have LTE in similar Areas. I guess it's always there where LTE is working within 800 mhz. So I remember that the one mini is able to working at each german LTE frequency. I am wondering that in Citys where O2 offers LTE I do not get it.
Sombody having ideas? Someone having the same Problems?
Thx ahead
Kuckuck
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Actually CZ T-Mobile only have LTE working at 1800MHz now. And my Mini does not have any problem working with it.
If I remember correctly it's version 601n for Europe. Other versions can support different frequencies.
Only thing I did to get it working was updating SIM firmware - available on operator web application.
hi just purchased a USA htc win phone ,does anyone know if 4g will work in UK ,if so witch provider cheers
no body tried then
not much happening here then
Not sure
I have just bought from USA a HTC One M8 T-Mobile 0P6B140 which I have unlocked. It is working fine but although it shows it is on Vodafone UK 4G, using the app NET CHECK it reports 3G HSDPA/HSUPA 57mbit. The only thing that I haven't got working is MMS. I have entered the APN details for my contract Vodafone sim which I found on the net, and there are various, but it tells me it cannot send and to contact mobile op. for settings.
As for the 4G, I live in a rural area it may be that Vodafone are transmitting on band 20 (800 MHz) and this phone doesn't support that. Vodafone only have the 800 and 2600 frequencies, band 7 and 20. My phone uses 3 (1800), 4 (AWS). 7(2600), 13 (not sure). I might be wrong with these.
Overall I am pleased, the phone is superbly built and it gives me something to think about!
I have the mms working fine, it was just the APN/MMS settings. So it is just the 4G not working but I can stream video from my synology ds214play with the 3g HSDPA/HSUPA.
Hi, LTE support depends on which carrier version you are bringing to Europe. My Verizon version did not work because it supports only "non-European" LTE Bands.
Now that I am using the AT&T version I can use full LTE in Europe (except the 800mhz band, which doesn´t matter for my country).
Be also aware that AT&T and obviously T-Mobile change the firmware so the phone will display 4G when in reality it is on 3.5/3.75G and LTE when it is on real 4G.
Cheers,
T.