I have just bought a new TMobile Vario 4 from the UK (HTC TOUCH PRO T7272) I am working and currenlty live in Canada - I have returned and have noticed that I no longer get 3g or HSDPA as a data connection - I am using NRG v2 ROM and have flashed 2 radios however have no luck cathcing a 3g data connection! I have been searching online and here and seem to get some stories that it maybe hardware - can anyone confirm if there is anything i can do?
Cheers - hope I havent bought a ferrari only to have a mini engine in it!
Mods can you move this to the ROM forum as i think it maybe a more techincal focussed question than general
Cheers
JPHCCFC said:
I have just bought a new TMobile Vario 4 from the UK (HTC TOUCH PRO T7272) I am working and currenlty live in Canada - I have returned and have noticed that I no longer get 3g or HSDPA as a data connection - I am using NRG v2 ROM and have flashed 2 radios however have no luck cathcing a 3g data connection! I have been searching online and here and seem to get some stories that it maybe hardware - can anyone confirm if there is anything i can do?
Cheers - hope I havent bought a ferrari only to have a mini engine in it!
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I'm fairly certain the Vario is Europe/Asia 3G meaning 900/2100Mhz 3G. In Canada on Rogers/Fido (and AT&T in the US) we use 1800Mhz 3G.
The best you will get is an edge connection. If you need a 3G phone that works in north America too go across the border (hopefully you work/live near one) and pickup an AT&T Fuze.
IndustryCanada said:
I'm fairly certain the Vario is Europe/Asia 3G meaning 900/2100Mhz 3G. In Canada on Rogers/Fido (and AT&T in the US) we use 1800Mhz 3G.
The best you will get is an edge connection. If you need a 3G phone that works in north America too go across the border (hopefully you work/live near one) and pickup an AT&T Fuze.
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Thanks for the response
This is the one I have http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1320&c=t-mobile_mda_vario_iv_htc_raphael - it says that it supports GSM 1800! I took out the battery and it says RAPH 300 - If i select GSM UTMS Band of 900+1800 and UMTS 2100(Worl) in the phone settings i get no network connection? Im confused now - I could get HSDPA and 3G with my T Mobile Vario 3 - trying to do some digging on what specifically RAPH 300 refers too as information and actual phone activity seems to be contradictory! Any ideas of the meaning of RAPH 300?
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
mmmhhh86 said:
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
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Same thing with T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T network. Compare Rogers and Telus 3G bands. It might be different.
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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lol yeah I think so. I think its called 1x or something like that. I'm not very familiar with the CDMA phones but they advertise that you can use the phone to surf 3G speeds on their network so I'm pretty sure they have 3G speeds.
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
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Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
Telus EVDO is not slow. Unfortunately the HDPA network is not up yet but it should be online VERY soon as the Olympics are drawing close and this is the reason why Telus is upgrading the network before Feb. 2010 here in Vancouver.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
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Where the heck are you located?? I'm using a TP2 with full EV signal and i'm getting 400-600k and that's in the downtown core. And from what telus tells me thats the best they can do till they put the HSPA network up. They said CDMA is only capable of 7-750k max, there is no getting over that. But i'd love to know how your getting 2.8 meg, because technically thats roughly 2100k faster than what telus says we can get.
And Jessie is right Telus has a goal to sell phones during the olympics and they plan to have the HSPA up by then.
Yup I'm pretty sure I saw Telus advertising their high speed somewhere
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
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Go to Phone Settings and select the Network tab then select GSM only instead of Global or CDMA
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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It is quadband gsm.... works on all continents.... provided it is unlocked or you are paying for global roaming.
hello guys, im going to purchase verizon tp2 cause they say it supports gsm and cheaper than the generic nonbranded version. tmobile's design i dislike. so as im going to use it only with gsm sim, i have such questions, are there any differences in use between gsm and vzw versions except i must select gsm mode? can i flash it with generic tp2 roms?
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okay, seems to be cdma versions cant be flashed to gsm as it is another model id(rhod400 and rhod500)
so i have one more question, will i be able to use internet on vzw tp2 without any restrictions on its stock rom now, when hardspl have not been released yet?
Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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I dont think so. I dont think there's a PRO 2 that supports our North American 3G bands.. At least not yet.. For the question above. Yes it is GSM quadband but not 3G quadband. This is different. It is 3G dualband and supports those of Asia and Europe only. Unfortunately.
That's a good and clear answer! Thx !
No problem. I think when and if AT&T or some North American GSM carrier releases the TP2, then the 3G will definitely work here in NA. Otherwise the current versions only support Asia and Europe.
Another question, can we install a custom ROM on the worldphone telus Touch Pro 2 like the other GSM phones? (I dont think so but I found two opposite answers on this forum).
I've got the Touch Pro (T7272-unlocked not t-Mobile branded) and am a T-Mobile customer.
Does anyone know if this device works on the T-Mobile 4G network?
If so, what setting, if any, need to be changed?
The package says the phone supports HSPA network, but T-Mobile's is HSPA+.
The phone will work, but I believe only on EDGE. The radio bands are wrong to get 3G or I guess 4G. There's nothing you can do about it.
Thanks for your reply.
I've used it for years with EDGE, which is brutally sloooooow.
I was wondering what spec determines if a phone will work on T-Mobile 4G network?
that is correct. att's 3/4g opperates arround 1800hmz while tmobiles 3/4g opperates around 1700mhz to no matter what you do (outside of switching carriers) there is no way you can opperate outside of edge
-rastlin
Rastin,
Thanks for your reply.
Is there any possibility that a software solution could change the Band Frequency?
Unfortunately it`s imposible.
Hi, just got a device in Europe and found out it is 4G.
Read something about not being able to use it in the US.
What does that mean, that the phone won't work at all, or that it has to do with mobile internet connection or a wifi connection?
If this is a problem, is it possible to fix this with a new rom?
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Hi, just got a device in Europe and found out it is 4G.
Read something about not being able to use it in the US.
What does that mean, that the phone won't work at all, or that it has to do with mobile internet connection or a wifi connection?
If this is a problem, is it possible to fix this with a new rom?
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The phone should work in the US but not on 4G LTE due to the different operator frequencies.
In the UK we use 800, 1800, 2600, 3500 and 3700MHz where as in the US they use 700, 850, 1700, 1900 & 2500MHz.
So it should work on the 3G/HSPDA bands but not LTE unless it uses some kind of global LTE chip.
hi just purchased a USA htc win phone ,does anyone know if 4g will work in UK ,if so witch provider cheers
no body tried then
not much happening here then
Not sure
I have just bought from USA a HTC One M8 T-Mobile 0P6B140 which I have unlocked. It is working fine but although it shows it is on Vodafone UK 4G, using the app NET CHECK it reports 3G HSDPA/HSUPA 57mbit. The only thing that I haven't got working is MMS. I have entered the APN details for my contract Vodafone sim which I found on the net, and there are various, but it tells me it cannot send and to contact mobile op. for settings.
As for the 4G, I live in a rural area it may be that Vodafone are transmitting on band 20 (800 MHz) and this phone doesn't support that. Vodafone only have the 800 and 2600 frequencies, band 7 and 20. My phone uses 3 (1800), 4 (AWS). 7(2600), 13 (not sure). I might be wrong with these.
Overall I am pleased, the phone is superbly built and it gives me something to think about!
I have the mms working fine, it was just the APN/MMS settings. So it is just the 4G not working but I can stream video from my synology ds214play with the 3g HSDPA/HSUPA.
Hi, LTE support depends on which carrier version you are bringing to Europe. My Verizon version did not work because it supports only "non-European" LTE Bands.
Now that I am using the AT&T version I can use full LTE in Europe (except the 800mhz band, which doesn´t matter for my country).
Be also aware that AT&T and obviously T-Mobile change the firmware so the phone will display 4G when in reality it is on 3.5/3.75G and LTE when it is on real 4G.
Cheers,
T.