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is it really worth it?

Hi all,
Ive just got myself a tmobile wizard. ive been looking all through the wm6 pages and was just wondering is it worth me updating my wm5 to wm6. im sure all the new users would like to know this (is there speed improvements etc) and is there a rom that is stable and 99% working? as ive had alot of problems in the past when updating my blueangel to wm5
apologies if these are stupid questions

IMO, there's not enough extra in WM6 to justify the little problems it has. I'd suggest a stable WM5 like Farias 3.3

farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3

peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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I would 2nd that!!! Now that we have the Ir button working 100%, i dont think there is other problems

So far so good here....
I know it's kinda aging now but I have been running NotTooSmart's Vanilla Rom for a while now and I have no issues whatsoever. I use my device constantly all day every day and though there was some trick to getting it to work just how I wanted I was comfortable enough to put the same ROM on my wife's Wizard as well (If you only knew how big of a step this was.... god forbid something goes wrong there I will never hear the end of it) .
Overall, here is the list of things that I do with rom if you are contemplating using it yourself and want to know if it will work for you.
Exchange activesync (heavy use)
Pocket IE
AIM 2.0 for PPC (osed once or twice)
Watching movies with TCPMP
( SEE TCPMP NOTES BELOW )
I use WMP as my only MP3 player with a couple of SD cards
WIFI works fine
Bluetooth headset with my HT850 works fine
Phone works okay. I mean, nothing is perfect and I do miss a call on occasion but so far it's acceptable. I have found, despite my previous posts, that 2.19 UK actually is more reliable. 2.25 US is better for data in my area but 2.19 UK causes me to miss a lot less calls.
I use internet radio via TCPMP at the gym every day reliably.
Sirius Sat Radio via SiriusWM5 works great although on occasion I do get the odd program error - NOTE: happens in WM5 too.
I DO NOT OVERCLOCK AT ALL as I really have no need for it.
Ewallet latest release works great
Listpro works great
I use a whole bunch of networking apps (tracert, pocket ping, etc...) from way back in the WM2003 days that still work just fine on WM6.
Terminal services works (though most people will not use this).
TCPMP NOTE: In order to do internet radio and most video you will need to DL and install the WMV9 codecs. This is a known issue and can be found by searching through back posts here in the WM6 forum.
Overall, I say yeah, it's worth it. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than anything but it's a "nice to have". Plus, HTML email is real nice if you have EXCH 2007.

ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!

peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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How is the battery life with this rom?

cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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I think this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
Make sure you have either G3 or G4 device as downloading the wrong version will brick your device.

cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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If you are wanting to give WM6 a go, then the Faria 3.3 rom is not the correct one. That is a WM5 rom.
The Faria Clean / Vanilla is the WM6 one. You have to download the entire ROM Kitchen, but there is a flash rom directory that has a default rom already built (or you can go through the build process to add and remove the stuff you want / don't want.
The link for the Faria WM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406 (same as given above, but that is NOT the AKU 3.3 Faria ROM)
If you really want Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its a stable WM5 ROM) then its here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
And then use this link to step you through flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!

k2e15 said:
How is the battery life with this rom?
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it seems better than any wm6 i have tried , it does not have battery status installed and i have not installed it yet so without that and no overclocking its holding up as good as it did with farias wm5 3.3.

cobra2222 said:
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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sometimes you can get around the 90 minute wait by just putting http://anonym.to/? infront of the URL. Doesn't always work but its worth a try.

Is it worth it?
I know I'm coming in late to the thread, but I think in general I would be a bit more cautious. The leap from a stock rom to a (necessarily) custom WM6 rom, and then to a rom kitchen is better taken in baby steps in my opinion. In my own view, objectively I don't see any difference in my day to day usage of my wizard from when I was running WM5. In fact, I think because I've become obsessed with tinkering with it, I spend more time trying out different odds and ends, tweaking and breaking and fixing things than I do using it!
If you are primarily interested in USING you Wizard, I would start with a small step to say the Faria 3.3 WM5 rom. Learn to unlock, and flash, load your programs again, etc. Then once that's digested move up to WM6 if you really feel the itch, then try a rom kitchen as a final step.
Whatever you do, Keep it Fun!

Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).

i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works

cobra2222 said:
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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No, its a "Vanilla" or "Clean" rom (ie: pretty much stripped down to the core). So you then add back to it just what you want.
If you want a full featured WM6, then look at Faria's "the real thing" but there are issues with that one so you have to dig through the huge thread for fixes (so I don't recommend it). If you want something that feels like a "stock" rom, then do the Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its WM5, but its better than the stock ones IMO).
I like the Vanilla roms though as you just put on it what you want. But not everyone likes that.

ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?

mfrazzz said:
Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
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I think that's a great idea. Even if you put in all his currently available options, it is still more of a vanilla rom. Maybe with and without Voice Command, as that seems to be a make or break issue for folks. But serve it up the way you like it!

cobra2222 said:
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Well, if you're going to do this, now its time to start reading that thread.
Good luck!

i just want to install the vanilla standard rom, do i just need to run an exe from the kitchen folder?

Thinking of rolling back to WM5

Hey,
When I bought my Universal from ebay it already came with WM6 (a very buggy version, not sure from where). So I never really had the chance to test WM5.
I'm mostly having problems installing Hebrew support on the cooked roms. For instance PDAC (one of the companies who make hebrew for PPC) told me that because their software detects my device as WM5 their licensing system won't allow me to install (by the way, is there a work around this problem? This is all legit of course I want to buy this software).
I'm not going to ask what are the official differences because I can find more than enough about it on the web, but is there really a technical reason to stay with a cooked WM6 (being somewhat buggy)? Besides being prettier are the cooked roms giving any advantage over WM5 ? From my understanding both operating systems are pretty much the same besides the included software.
Thanks
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By the way I want to emphasize that I REALLY TRULY appreciate the effort spent into making these cooked roms. SERIOUSLY. This isn't a complaint thread!
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Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!

rumble291 said:
Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
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Perhaps I will downgrade temporarily. My main concern is Hebrew support. Besides that everything else works just fine.

I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks

ronaldphl said:
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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What's the smart-dialing function? I never had WM5 so I don't know the difference in dialing.

I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
And I actually managed to install Hebrew support! Yay!

I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
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WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.

DaVince said:
WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
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From the things I saw in the official O2 installation I made:
- Sim contacts don't appear as regular contacts
- Outlook looks like the horrible outlook I had in my old PocketPC2002
- The phone dialer is not responsive and very buggy
- Overall slower than WM6
I'm personally not having any problems with WiFi in WM6.
And yeah I don't use video call or MMS I don't use any G3 features.

Oh.. you used the official WM5 from O2. I wouldn't use that myself.. too darn slow and lots of missing features. I'm using Jwright's ROM... anyway, it's just personal preference. I'd rather have all the features that my Universal can offer with WM5 rather than have a better looking WM6 ROM with buggy and missing features.

Highly Recommend To Try Kamal's WM5 ROM (AKU 3.5)
I recommend to try Kamal's WM5 ROM. You guys won't regret it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319838
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How can a poweruser port a WM6 of Athena for Universal?

I've been wondering if it's possible to do so, since the Athena is quite similar to Universal.
Any hints would be welcomed.

cash365 said:
I've been wondering if it's possible to do so, since the Athena is quite similar to Universal.
Any hints would be welcomed.
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Hi there...
Athena is no way similar to the Universal. WAaay different hardware...

same processor, same (for some universal's) DoC chip, but yeah, apart from that its different

Different
Actually I tried that, DaVince & Midget_1990 are correct. I manage to built the ROM and succesfully port it in my Uni. Unfortunately it hang to Splash Screen and nothing happen. As a result I lost my Extended ROM (I am trying to revive it now).
I will try to re-install the ms_.nbf, I hope it will solve my problem. Can you suggest something to revive it?
Cheers mate..

Thank you for answering so soon. You are the best

Hang on a minute, what about DarkForce?
According to this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ht=darkforce+athena+universal+rom#post1178773
... the much acclaimed DarkForce ROM is based on the Athena. I'm not sure if it is a Universal ROM with Athena applications and layout added, or an Athena ROM with Universal drivers added (I read both explanations which left me a bit confused).
I have tried nearly every WM6 ROM going and DarkForce was one of the most reliable, although it still had some bugs, so I would be interested to see if the new official Athena WM6 ROM that is due out now would help create a much more stable WM6 ROM for Universal.

you would need to port the XIP and drivers.
to recover your partitions use 'Task 28 55aa' from mtty, then flash new OS + Extrom.

Here's a Chinese ROM port from Trinity
http://blog.pdafans.com/?25433/action_viewspace_itemid_7127.html
Use this ROM as your base, with any ROM KITCHEN and SYS from Athena to rebuild the WWE yourselves, everyone can get the new OS5.2.1437 (Build 17944.0.3.1) on your Universal!
But I must mention, there still have some bugs in the new core.

WM 6.1 ce os 5.2.19202 (Build 19202)

Hi,
I think, i found WM 6.1 5.2.19202 for our wizard... but i'm not sure, because i can't speak chinease. (I think it is chinease^^)
Here is a link
http://bbs.xbeta.cn/thread-9911-1-1.html
Have a nice day!

kili said:
Hi,
I think, i found WM 6.1 5.2.19202 for our wizard... but i'm not sure, because i can't speak chinease. (I think it is chinease^^)
Here is a link
http://bbs.xbeta.cn/thread-9911-1-1.html
Have a nice day!
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It's in Chinese but not WWE. Mixed reviews.
Can anyone confirm that this is a legitimate version or a fake one?

It is ajc2003 rom who produced this Fantastic Rom WM6.1 For Wizard OS 5.2.19521 built 19521 WWE. I think it is in Beta 1. Insead of calling it fake, I would call it hybrid, if it even is. Here is a link to show the progress he is making with it http://bbs.xbeta.cn/forumdisplay.php?fid=11&filter=type&typeid=64

downloading... ... ...

wow that's the newest wm6.1 build for the Kraiser!
That would be so awesome if someone already ported that one for the wizard.

The core OS is a leaked evaluation version from the Motorola Q8 (1.07.24R)
I am running it on my Faraday

Pumpiron579 said:
The core OS is a leaked evaluation version from the Motorola Q8 (1.07.24R)
I am running it on my Faraday
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well....what do you think so far??...feedback man!!!

Working great on my Fararaday. GnatGoSplat is the Cooker. He is the one behind this project; [Mar 24, 2008] Boring ROMs 5.2.1629 for AT&T, T-Mobile and now vanilla flavored!
Maybe you can ask him if he would port that build over and make it work with our Wizard

The 19202 I ported to Tornado and StarTrek are WM6.1 Standard. It wouldn't work well on a Wizard because you'd have to use the Dpad for everything, the touchscreen wouldn't work.
I can port any WM6.1, but Wizard should have the Professional version for touchscreen support.

Indeed the latest O2 (MWG) device Zinc II is running based on this build (refer to the pix attached)

just flashed this and also pulled it apart... i'm going to test it for a bit, but this version is basically TNT 19199. splash, customizing screen and version (CE OS 5.2.19202 (Build 191999.1.0.0)TNT) feel is the same too....
we'll see what's up with it, im guessing just a few modules were changed or maybe not even that, but still a good rom just like TNT's. too bad i can't find a real 19202...
btw, 19209 is available now... looks like a port of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380913&highlight=19209

Any working links?

ndn715 said:
just flashed this and also pulled it apart... i'm going to test it for a bit, but this version is basically TNT 19199. splash, customizing screen and version (CE OS 5.2.19202 (Build 191999.1.0.0)TNT) feel is the same too....
we'll see what's up with it, im guessing just a few modules were changed or maybe not even that, but still a good rom just like TNT's. too bad i can't find a real 19202...
btw, 19209 is available now... looks like a port of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380913&highlight=19209
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I am in Las Vegas attending CTIA Wireless show. MS has officially released WM6.1 today at this event. I checked some phones running 6.1 on MS booth and found the OS version is 5.2.19204 (Build 5.2.19204.1.0.1) on Tilt and 5.2.19524 on a Touch Dual. I think the Wizard is just too old hence I didn't see any displayed.

hottnikkz said:
Any working links?
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trust me, you don't want it, unless you are good are relocalizing roms. completely in chinese and the registry doesnt convert to rgu, making it a little hard to change the language

ndn715 said:
trust me, you don't want it, unless you are good are relocalizing roms. completely in chinese and the registry doesnt convert to rgu, making it a little hard to change the language
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Ahh, understood. Thanks for the heads up. Saved me a few hours of searching for sure!

5.2.19209_ATT_test.rar Port
Here is the ATT test rom port I did. Its just SYS, OEM and ROM folder ready for any kitchen. Keep in mind guys it still have some WM6.1 issues ....but much more stable. So far Good battery life, no hangups atleast on my MDA and 8125. Try it and share your experience with XDA community.
Thanks
Happy Cooking.
Download
http://rapidshare.com/files/104332649/5.2.19209_ATT_test.rar.html
Link for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380913

villaboy25 said:
Here is the ATT test rom port I did. Its just SYS, OEM and ROM folder ready for any kitchen. Keep in mind guys it still have some WM6.1 issues ....but much more stable. So far Good battery life, no hangups atleast on my MDA and 8125. Try it and share your experience with XDA community.
Thanks
Happy Cooking.
Download
http://rapidshare.com/files/104332649/5.2.19209_ATT_test.rar.html
Link for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380913
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Thanks, I'll give this a go when I get home from work.

villaboy25 said:
Here is the ATT test rom port I did. Its just SYS, OEM and ROM folder ready for any kitchen. Keep in mind guys it still have some WM6.1 issues ....but much more stable. So far Good battery life, no hangups atleast on my MDA and 8125. Try it and share your experience with XDA community.
Thanks
Happy Cooking.
Download
http://rapidshare.com/files/104332649/5.2.19209_ATT_test.rar.html
Link for more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380913
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thank u sir.

thanks.
will have a go with this build, thanks for sharing.

NEW OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382061

WANTED: SUPERCLEAN WM 6.5 Tytn II/KAISER ROM to lear to cook with

Before you get out the flamethrowers, I have read about 3,000 posts this morning looking for as bare-bones a TYTN II ROM as I can get. I have some 6.5 ROMS some other cooks have made but I am not sure I have the skills to strip out what needs to be stripped out.
If you have a Kaiser/TYTN II Stripped ROM (UC Compliant if possible), please let me know where I can download it from.
Thanks.

I have one made. Very extreme lite. Only 21mb in use. 101 RAM hack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496621

Any chance of finding (getting?) clean ROMs of WM 6.1 and 6.5? Without any customizations... A clean start towards my first kitchen

Thanks but...
TheParadox said:
I have one made. Very extreme lite. Only 21mb in use. 101 RAM hack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496621
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It appears your ROM uses Manila, which I am not really in love with.

What should truly be in a bare bones ROM?
s1m0n.lfs said:
Any chance of finding (getting?) clean ROMs of WM 6.1 and 6.5? Without any customizations... A clean start towards my first kitchen
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the question is: what should truly be in a bare bones ROM?
NET 3.5
Activesync
Almost everything else should be done with UC cabs, IMHO

ParrotSquawk said:
the question is: what should truly be in a bare bones ROM?
NET 3.5
Activesync
Almost everything else should be done with UC cabs, IMHO
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Maybe you should read the thread.....
Post #3 Is a Lite ROM
Post #4 Is an Extreme Lite ROM

Paradox,
What rom do you use for your Kaiser TytnII when you run android?
I want a light rom that will allow me to use my phone when I can't use android.
Thanks
Lance

i test this

You will need to search and flash all the roms in this area to find the one that fits you best.
Closing thread.
Good luck on your findings.
Josh