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Though I might start a new thread for this 3.5 ROM if thats not too naughty
JD
What do we know about it so far and is there an upload that isn't corrupt yet?
Dear Prophet users.
Dont flash Helmi_c 3.5 ROMs because they composed without trying on real device.
Helmi_c has Universal. And his Uni 3.5 version has some glitches.
Helmi's prophet versions boot only to 1 splash and thats all.
I'm trying to compose my own version and my version booting to 2 splash.
I think that i missed something in initialization files.
If anyone can help me, this will be great.
Thank you all.
I think Jesterz or LVSW are your contacts here, but I havn't heard from LVSW for some time, jesterz has done a great job so far on 3.3 clean, anyone else who can help here?
JD
johnnyduk
We a lost LVSW he is buy Trinity.
And we have only Jester.
waiting........
k0ster said:
Dear Prophet users.
Dont flash Helmi_c 3.5 ROMs because they composed without trying on real device.
Helmi_c has Universal. And his Uni 3.5 version has some glitches.
Helmi's prophet versions boot only to 1 splash and thats all.
I'm trying to compose my own version and my version booting to 2 splash.
I think that i missed something in initialization files.
If anyone can help me, this will be great.
Thank you all.
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fyi: your device aku3.3 is my work.. and modified by pdamobiz then remodified by jesterz... but with 3.5 its kinda suck... I still missing something.. hell...
helmi_c said:
fyi: your device aku3.3 is my work.. and modified by pdamobiz then remodified by jesterz... but with 3.5 its kinda suck... I still missing something.. hell...
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but how did your work on universal?
i think there no difficulty for you
i hope ......
digifan said:
but how did your work on universal?
i think there no difficulty for you
i hope ......
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well, I dont find difficulty, so far so good, thats includin my crossbow rom for universal... and so does my BA (Xdaiis), Himalaya project and also Htc scooter (Mitac Mio), offcourse every rom that built with hacked version/method has some bug, thats why we call it beta, this could happen due the drivers availability limitation, and that also happens to original shipped rom right? lol..
and you? what u did? are u usefull?
thanks helmi for your time.
Please, you continue the job.
waiting...
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well, I dont find difficulty, so far so good, thats includin my crossbow rom for universal... and so does my BA (Xdaiis), Himalaya project and also Htc scooter (Mitac Mio), offcourse every rom that built with hacked version/method has some bug, thats why we call it beta, this could happen due the drivers availability limitation, and that also happens to original shipped rom right? lol..
and you? what u did? are u usefull?
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offcourse every rom that built with hacked version/method has some bug,
i agree with u
i'm a beginner ! so .....
btw:
what's the different among ur 3 Helmi_Prophet_AKU3.5_OS?
digifan said:
offcourse every rom that built with hacked version/method has some bug,
i agree with u
i'm a beginner ! so .....
btw:
what's the different among ur 3 Helmi_Prophet_AKU3.5_OS?
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the first is, heavily hacked... fyi: any prophet know rom so far is non hacked it semi standar... the device refuse to use hacked rom like Hima, Uni, BA, Mio.. damn...
the second no hacked in core plus combine with Artemis driver...
the third none hacked at all, back to aku3.3 base, with some Artemis Driver... but it seems something still missing... I'll work with chan (pdamobiz) since we work togather before with aku3.3 to try sort things out again... u guys should thanks to him also for bring posibility port higher aku to prophet device..
regard,
helmi_c said:
the first is, heavily hacked... fyi: any prophet know rom so far is non hacked it semi standar... the device refuse to use hacked rom like Hima, Uni, BA, Mio.. damn...
the second no hacked in core plus combine with Artemis driver...
the third none hacked at all, back to aku3.3 base, with some Artemis Driver... but it seems something still missing... I'll work with chan (pdamobiz) since we work togather before with aku3.3 to try sort things out again... u guys should thanks to him also for bring posibility port higher aku to prophet device..
regard,
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CORE AKU3.5 BACK TO AKU3.3
BTW:
can u replace it to the crossbow icon and dialpad and wmp skin ?
i don't know the different between 3.5 and 3.3
best regards
thanks
helmi , Chan , jester , LVSW !
thank you very much!
Just to let eveybody know, I working together with helmi to create a stable aku 3.5, but it will take some time
stay tuned
Hi Jesterz
Great news.....
Might there be a new 3.3 b2 with a few fixes, mainly for me the dissapearing imap mail accounts is a real pain, usb charging second, but there is a way around that one for now, also the gps is a useful addition
Great work once again
JD
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Hi Jesterz
Great news.....
Might there be a new 3.3 b2 with a few fixes, mainly for me the dissapearing imap mail accounts is a real pain, usb charging second, but there is a way around that one for now, also the gps is a useful addition
Great work once again
JD
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yeah i'll work on a beta 2, the imap is a weird problem, ill see what i can do,usb is harder as its a driver issue
what do u mean with gps? you mean the icon? as even without that gps works....
let me know
thx
Hi Jesterz
The gps I only mentioned as I was playing around with the midlet manager and google maps today, and wondered if it was necessary to use a gps unit with the midlet manager? If not dont worry.
One thing I did notice over Christmas while using the 3.2 clean version, My tomtom software locked up a few times (which it had never done before) I havn't had a chance to try it yet with your 3.3 since installing it
FYI
JD
Helmi_c
Excuse me man, but i think that you can describe the booting process sequence. And one more question: if i make version, that boot to 2 splash, but dont show welcome screen, thats told about that i missed something in initialization files. What are you thinking about that, could you help me?
Jesterz
Here is a possibility......I am sure I soft reset this device yesterday and the email accounts stayed (not definate though) then I installed some other software, I would guess (purely a guess) that possibly some memory is being overwritten by me installing other software on the device that is being used by the system/email account info as it is only partly dissapearing?
Possible or not possible?
HTH
JD
johnnyduk said:
Hi Jesterz
The gps I only mentioned as I was playing around with the midlet manager and google maps today, and wondered if it was necessary to use a gps unit with the midlet manager? If not dont worry.
JD
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Can you explain what you mean by the midlet manager using GPS? Isn't this more a function of the java app calling for the right port?
So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
Hi Jesterz
Thats not an easy one, I tried the WM6 rom, and it worked but with the mentioned bugs, but it took all of my available ram, and kept coming up with memery shortage errors, does WM6 need more memory for it to operate, and will it ever have enough on a prophet?
JD
WM6!!!!!!
Im test the PDAVIET and the only big problem is the charge item.
[]s FerSoft
I say continue with AKU3.3 it's the one with less bugs...
yeah me too, lets go on with Aku 3.3
Personally I think that we should continue with WM6. More 3rd party applications will be developed for it in the long run, and it makes sense to future proof our Prophets.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
I think aku 3.3 needs just a bit more tweaking and that should come first, right?
You're probably closer to another release as well...
Sorry, I do not know why I got triple post here.....
WM6 Please Please Please
I loved WM6 only probs were
reset on return from standby (obex fix) only when not plugged in mains or usb
charging/batt status doesnt work after return from standby
Sometimes looses BT and Wifi information
I think the first two are linked. The device can only come out of standby if the obex dll registry is removed or renamed. maybe if the obex thing was fixed the charging might continue to work!!!
Excellent work though Jesterz - I use your 2.2r1 in production. Rock Solid and I have even kept the Jesterz Splash Screen
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So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
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It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
scott4 said:
It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
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yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
how about unlocking the extended rom on htc excalibur aku3.0 for a change ,tired of seeing all these hacks for ppc!
nandlal_mk said:
yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
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I think it too, but you can't force people to buy prophets so they could turn their heads our way!
WM6 is my choice.
I think it will take a long time to stabilise wm6 rom but eventually we will reap the rewards as it is the future.
WM6 for me. Let's prepare our Prophets for the future.
I think we should go for WM6! This is the feature!
Better go for WM6!!! Go Jesterz Go!
As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
nothin said:
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
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any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
Pumpiron579 said:
This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.
I am looking for the most generic WM6 ROM that has the base and drivers, no tweaks or utilities. Like a retail HTC WM6 rom. Any suggestions? thanks
Also, any idea how to increase earpiece volume on the MDA (currently have XDA WM6 ROM).
Vanilla by NTS
swistak said:
Vanilla by NTS
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NTS Vanilla seems ok, but it is a bit dated and does not have the new WM6 interface.
What do You mean by new WM6 interface?
Did I miss something big lately?
[ Or do You just mean TouchFLO interface? ]
oleg106 said:
I am looking for the most generic WM6 ROM that has the base and drivers, no tweaks or utilities. Like a retail HTC WM6 rom. Any suggestions? thanks
Also, any idea how to increase earpiece volume on the MDA (currently have XDA WM6 ROM).
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Grab Faria's Kitchen or any of the two other kitchens and build your own!
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NTS Vanilla seems ok, but it is a bit dated and does not have the new WM6 interface.
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Thats funny actually. You ask for a completely vanilla / stock WM6 rom with no extras. Someone points you to one that is pretty close to as vanilla, and you complain its missing "the new WM6 interface". Sounds to me like you are not wanting a stock rom
If you truely want plain / stock do a search for the Ingenetics rom. Its as basic and bare as they come and pretty much like what is delivered from Microsoft. Yes, its "older" too, but thats because there are no real roms for the Wizard after that one. Newer ones are ports from other devices.
Here's good list of roms from someone around here
http://rapidshare.com/users/IW25NT
The second one down is the latest clean wm6 to my knowledge
werD said:
Here's good list of roms from someone around here
http://rapidshare.com/users/IW25NT
The second one down is the latest clean wm6 to my knowledge
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Very nice collection.
I would like to first say thanks to you for your painstaking work.
I would request you if you can give me the Original Base Rom which Ingenetics submitted. I have searched a lot but could not get it
Are there any official "test" ROMS that have been leaked with the 19900 build or are they all cooked versions?
I would assume that a cook had to get them from somewhere, but what I am unsure about is whether these files are being brought over from a device other than the kaiser?
Can someone clarify for me?
thx
It's a mysterie Bengalih, it doesn't exist I supose
Great isn't?
Laurentius26 said:
It's a mysterie Bengalih, it doesn't exist I supose
Great isn't?
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Leo, what do u think about the on-coming rom-update from HTC?
Ha...yeah... well I am downloading the PDAVIET latest which claims it is 19900. Also there are some other's released, like HyperDragon's latest.
Since you have been doing some good cooking Laurentis, I am curious how often the cooks are using "system" files from other phones?
I know that they have been porting some apps (like the newest HTC stuff) from other devices like the Touch/Dual, but are they porting system (OS CE files) from other devices to the Kaiser?
thanks
yah taken from Polaris, the SYS dir and maybe some usefull software.
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Ha...yeah... well I am downloading the PDAVIET latest which claims it is 19900. Also there are some other's released, like HyperDragon's latest.
Since you have been doing some good cooking Laurentis, I am curious how often the cooks are using "system" files from other phones?
I know that they have been porting some apps (like the newest HTC stuff) from other devices like the Touch/Dual, but are they porting system (OS CE files) from other devices to the Kaiser?
thanks
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I don't know, if they provide the hardware drivers it would be awsom!
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Leo, what do u think about the on-coming rom-update from HTC?
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No rgu's or dsm's my friend, sorry I forgot to mention.
bengalih said:
Ha...yeah... well I am downloading the PDAVIET latest which claims it is 19900. Also there are some other's released, like HyperDragon's latest.
Since you have been doing some good cooking Laurentis, I am curious how often the cooks are using "system" files from other phones?
I know that they have been porting some apps (like the newest HTC stuff) from other devices like the Touch/Dual, but are they porting system (OS CE files) from other devices to the Kaiser?
thanks
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No rgu's or dsm's my friend, sorry I forgot to mention.
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So is what you are saying you can extract a polaris ROM and bring over the entire SYS directory and cook it into a Kaiser ROM? Just not the DSMs and RGUs?
How does one know what files can be brought over and also what advantage does it give?
Let's put it this way...if I wanted to cook a kaiser ROM, why would I choose to use Polaris' SYS, and how would I import them to ensure that it would work. Is there ALOT of additional tweaking to get Polaris SYS to work on Kaiser?
thx
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
CE OS "sources" chopped up with stuff missing and lame excuses from the releasing parties are a waste of your time. my new motto: if i dont have an OEM .exe containing the source, its a bull**** release.
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what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
CE OS "sources" chopped up with stuff missing and lame excuses from the releasing parties are a waste of your time. my new motto: if i dont have an OEM .exe containing the source, its a bull**** release.
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Very much agreed
dcd1182 said:
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
CE OS "sources" chopped up with stuff missing and lame excuses from the releasing parties are a waste of your time. my new motto: if i dont have an OEM .exe containing the source, its a bull**** release.
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I was suspect of this too...which is one of the reasons I asked. Is the PDAVIET the source of these or not? It appeared (though I may be wrong) that the HyperDragon release was dated prior to that...but I don't know if there were others.
I think we should make it clear to the community that these versions may be bogus.
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I was suspect of this too...which is one of the reasons I asked. Is the PDAVIET the source of these or not? It appeared (though I may be wrong) that the HyperDragon release was dated prior to that...but I don't know if there were others.
I think we should make it clear to the community that these versions may be bogus.
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My 2 cents:
-the PDAviet ROM is very different from latest HYPERDRAGON, both claiming to be based on 19900.
-the PDAviet rom is by far the fastest rom ever. Look at the benchmarks I've made. I've tried so many roms, and none was so fast, especially graphivally speaking.
But yes it has some strange bugs if you don't use the dedicated radio (see my signature), but other bugs are well known, like the HTC Home problem which occured also on dutty's latest.
- finally, to sum up, yeah I don't have the slightest idea from where those system files come from. I won't speak about PhamQuang, no idea of what he did, but you can surely ask Sakajati, i think I've read he works in a retail store something like this.
Yes I've been trying the PDAVIET today and it appears pretty fast. Usually I don't notice any speed differences in ROMs and if there are...I think they only change + or - 10%... so maybe I think this one is about 10% faster, but it is still hard to say.
I am going to keep running with it since it also is fairly lite on the apps and lets me install my own cabs which I am building and testing.
I won't worry too much about it since we are supposed to have the new HTC release this much..I really hope it comes and is running at least this 19900 version.
thanks.
Hi,
You didn't understand me correct here. Dsm's and rgu's are necessary for cooking rom. Sys dir contains the CE OS version and OEM dir the device drivers if everything is correct. So it's possible to take complete Sys dir from a dumped Polaris rom and port it to Kaiser. If you do a search with Google for 'Misar', you will learn how to port.
Cheers,
Leo
bengalih said:
So is what you are saying you can extract a polaris ROM and bring over the entire SYS directory and cook it into a Kaiser ROM? Just not the DSMs and RGUs?
How does one know what files can be brought over and also what advantage does it give?
Let's put it this way...if I wanted to cook a kaiser ROM, why would I choose to use Polaris' SYS, and how would I import them to ensure that it would work. Is there ALOT of additional tweaking to get Polaris SYS to work on Kaiser?
thx
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dcd1182 said:
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
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In Holland we would call this "pissing vinegar" ... PDAVIET is releasing great ROM's lately and Support let's us know when they are released. What happened in the past is old baloney.
Dredd67 said:
My 2 cents:
-the PDAviet ROM is very different from latest HYPERDRAGON, both claiming to be based on 19900.
-the PDAviet rom is by far the fastest rom ever. Look at the benchmarks I've made. I've tried so many roms, and none was so fast, especially graphivally speaking.
But yes it has some strange bugs if you don't use the dedicated radio (see my signature), but other bugs are well known, like the HTC Home problem which occured also on dutty's latest.
- finally, to sum up, yeah I don't have the slightest idea from where those system files come from. I won't speak about PhamQuang, no idea of what he did, but you can surely ask Sakajati, i think I've read he works in a retail store something like this.
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Your sign is PDAVIET V7
Here is V8
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390817