Thinking of rolling back to WM5 - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Hey,
When I bought my Universal from ebay it already came with WM6 (a very buggy version, not sure from where). So I never really had the chance to test WM5.
I'm mostly having problems installing Hebrew support on the cooked roms. For instance PDAC (one of the companies who make hebrew for PPC) told me that because their software detects my device as WM5 their licensing system won't allow me to install (by the way, is there a work around this problem? This is all legit of course I want to buy this software).
I'm not going to ask what are the official differences because I can find more than enough about it on the web, but is there really a technical reason to stay with a cooked WM6 (being somewhat buggy)? Besides being prettier are the cooked roms giving any advantage over WM5 ? From my understanding both operating systems are pretty much the same besides the included software.
Thanks
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By the way I want to emphasize that I REALLY TRULY appreciate the effort spent into making these cooked roms. SERIOUSLY. This isn't a complaint thread!
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Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!

rumble291 said:
Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
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Perhaps I will downgrade temporarily. My main concern is Hebrew support. Besides that everything else works just fine.

I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks

ronaldphl said:
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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What's the smart-dialing function? I never had WM5 so I don't know the difference in dialing.

I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
And I actually managed to install Hebrew support! Yay!

I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
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WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.

DaVince said:
WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
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From the things I saw in the official O2 installation I made:
- Sim contacts don't appear as regular contacts
- Outlook looks like the horrible outlook I had in my old PocketPC2002
- The phone dialer is not responsive and very buggy
- Overall slower than WM6
I'm personally not having any problems with WiFi in WM6.
And yeah I don't use video call or MMS I don't use any G3 features.

Oh.. you used the official WM5 from O2. I wouldn't use that myself.. too darn slow and lots of missing features. I'm using Jwright's ROM... anyway, it's just personal preference. I'd rather have all the features that my Universal can offer with WM5 rather than have a better looking WM6 ROM with buggy and missing features.

Highly Recommend To Try Kamal's WM5 ROM (AKU 3.5)
I recommend to try Kamal's WM5 ROM. You guys won't regret it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319838
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Poll: Which ROM should we continue to develope with ?

So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
Hi Jesterz
Thats not an easy one, I tried the WM6 rom, and it worked but with the mentioned bugs, but it took all of my available ram, and kept coming up with memery shortage errors, does WM6 need more memory for it to operate, and will it ever have enough on a prophet?
JD
WM6!!!!!!
Im test the PDAVIET and the only big problem is the charge item.
[]s FerSoft
I say continue with AKU3.3 it's the one with less bugs...
yeah me too, lets go on with Aku 3.3
Personally I think that we should continue with WM6. More 3rd party applications will be developed for it in the long run, and it makes sense to future proof our Prophets.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
WM6 please. Since the official wm6 has been released, why we need the AKU3.3? I really like the update option in WM6. And a bounch of other features in WM6 is also cool.
I think aku 3.3 needs just a bit more tweaking and that should come first, right?
You're probably closer to another release as well...
Sorry, I do not know why I got triple post here.....
WM6 Please Please Please
I loved WM6 only probs were
reset on return from standby (obex fix) only when not plugged in mains or usb
charging/batt status doesnt work after return from standby
Sometimes looses BT and Wifi information
I think the first two are linked. The device can only come out of standby if the obex dll registry is removed or renamed. maybe if the obex thing was fixed the charging might continue to work!!!
Excellent work though Jesterz - I use your 2.2r1 in production. Rock Solid and I have even kept the Jesterz Splash Screen
Jesterz said:
So, which ROM should we continue to develope with ?
AKU 3.3 ? or WM6 ?
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It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
scott4 said:
It is useless to play around with ext rom only. The core problems like IR malfunctioned, USB charging unstable that need to be fixed.
Of course we should look forward to WM6.
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yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
how about unlocking the extended rom on htc excalibur aku3.0 for a change ,tired of seeing all these hacks for ppc!
nandlal_mk said:
yes, no more repacking of extrom. we should switch to wm6 as soon as possible.(jesterz don't wait to complete poll, its
already crying for wm6) Beside this we should come forward to proper rom cooking kitchen for
prophet. I think Prophet forum lacks R&D very much
thanx
nandlal
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I think it too, but you can't force people to buy prophets so they could turn their heads our way!
WM6 is my choice.
I think it will take a long time to stabilise wm6 rom but eventually we will reap the rewards as it is the future.
WM6 for me. Let's prepare our Prophets for the future.
I think we should go for WM6! This is the feature!
Better go for WM6!!! Go Jesterz Go!

Windows Live Cab for WM5

I'm getting fed up with the WM6 frivalousnous. I believe i should go back to WM5 now. I really want Windows Live though. Is there any type of cab to get Windows Live on the MDA? I searched but came up with nothing. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Maydwell said:
I'm getting fed up with the WM6 frivalousnous. I believe i should go back to WM5 now. I really want Windows Live though. Is there any type of cab to get Windows Live on the MDA? I searched but came up with nothing. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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If you dislike WM6 sooo much, then try posting in the appropriate forum NOT the WM6 forum. You'll probably get better reception without "frivaless" comments...
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Maydwell said:
I'm getting fed up with the WM6 frivalousnous. I believe i should go back to WM5 now. I really want Windows Live though. Is there any type of cab to get Windows Live on the MDA? I searched but came up with nothing. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Yes u can download it here is the link:
http://mahmood1.com/Documents/windowsLive_PPC2005_ARM.CAB
http://mahmood1.com/free_softwares_for_windows_mobile_pocket_pc.aspx
thanks mahmood
but i realized that i'd be a fool to go back to WM5 anyways. So i'm content again,LoL
demontefixo said:
If you dislike WM6 sooo much, then try posting in the appropriate forum NOT the WM6 forum. You'll probably get better reception without "frivaless" comments...
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He's asking for a WM6 feature, therefore, he did post in the right forum.
P.S. WM6 does appear to suck nuts... GPRS disconnect issue trumps all of its benefits.
herzzreh said:
He's asking for a WM6 feature, therefore, he did post in the right forum.
P.S. WM6 does appear to suck nuts... GPRS disconnect issue trumps all of its benefits.
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Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
herzzreh said:
P.S. WM6 does appear to suck nuts... GPRS disconnect issue trumps all of its benefits.
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Not too sure I agree with you on that, but that's a matter of personal preference, I suppose. I've had three different versions of WM6 on my 8125 in the past couple of months -- first the MB, then the Underground, and now Faria's. I have to say I've been happy with all three. The only reason I keep changing is for more RAM. (I like having LOTS of RAM -- LOL!!)
I haven't experienced the GPRS disconnect issue with ANY of the three and my internet gets a GOOD workout on a daily basis with tethering, emails and apps that update via the internet throughout the day. In fact, any problems I've had with any of them have had to do with "Button Actuator Deficit" (i.e. user error)
I for one can honestly say that I'll NEVER go back to WM5. . . even though all the chefs on here did a FABULOUS job of cooking them up for us -- WM6 Rocks!!!
Dr Puttingham said:
Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
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Although I don't think it's as bad as herzzreh says, it (WM6) definitely does have problems for some devices. 2.19 didn't consistently fix the GRPS drop problem for me - it worked intermittently. I also randomly got 'Phone not ready - wait 15 seconds' (or words to that effect) when trying to send SMS messages. Those issues combined with the poor reception of the 2.19 radio (compared to 2.61) mean't it wasn't worth the hassle for the few extra features WM6 gives.
cheers,
Andrew
Dr Puttingham said:
Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
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Who knows? Mine had 0 issues, except for this annoying GPRS disconnect issue, evne with 2.19 radio. If not for this, I'd be all over about using faria's WM6 rom.
BTW, thanks for the link to 3.3 rom!
you guys might be on to something
Maybe i've been out of the loop for a while but i have the MB version of WM6. I was wondering if i should stick with this version or maybe jump to a newer version. I've seen the other version's however don't feel confident that it would solve issues dealing with MB version. I really wouldn't want to jump to another rom just to find out i have the same issues. Only issues i still currently have are the GPRS and WIFI not staying strong after i connect(more so WIFI than GPRS). The WIFI connects and is ok one minute than says "connecting" the next minute. Anyhow,i appreciate all comments either bad or good on this thread. It certainly opened my eyes to some other issues.
herzzreh said:
Who knows? Mine had 0 issues, except for this annoying GPRS disconnect issue, evne with 2.19 radio. If not for this, I'd be all over about using faria's WM6 rom.
BTW, thanks for the link to 3.3 rom!
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I am not even having the GPRS disco problem. I am using the 2.47.11 radio.
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Maydwell said:
Maybe i've been out of the loop for a while but i have the MB version of WM6. I was wondering if i should stick with this version or maybe jump to a newer version. I've seen the other version's however don't feel confident that it would solve issues dealing with MB version. I really wouldn't want to jump to another rom just to find out i have the same issues. Only issues i still currently have are the GPRS and WIFI not staying strong after i connect(more so WIFI than GPRS). The WIFI connects and is ok one minute than says "connecting" the next minute. Anyhow,i appreciate all comments either bad or good on this thread. It certainly opened my eyes to some other issues.
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Your call really. If you have MBE tweaked out and all and its working good, then it is a good ROM (I liked it). But for me WiFi on it never worked right. Wifi just works (no issues) on Faria's or NotTooSmart's (which is what I'm on now). Plus you have more memory and there is no soft key lag (that I had on MBE). I've heard others complain about other things in the newer roms, so it really depends on what you use if its worth it. Definetly get a good backup of MBE if you decide to switch as you may want to restore back to good settings if you don't like the newer roms.
Personally I'm waiting for Faria's Vanilla to test out the ability to use 2.61 Radio since he's putting in the AKU 3.3 comm stack. If that works, that will be fantastic!
Leaving WM6
I almost left WM6, but I changed my mind... what did it? The Nottosmart vanilla
I had tried Faria and MB, and was having connectivity reliability issues with both of them. Now I can put up with device instability (it is Windows after all ) if I am trying to run programs, browse the internet, or do other stuff, but when it comes to the phone and e-mail capabilities I just need it to work.
I hadn't had any problems with WM5 from the first summitter ROM I tried, to unluckywivesclub, and multiple Faria and Molski variations as well. What I think I discovered is that quite honestly, different handsets act differently, even with the same setups! This may not be logical, but we are talking about computers here.
Anyway, I had actually gone back to Faria's 3.3 when nottosmart's vanilla came out. it was a weekend so I figured I would flash it, hate it over the weekend, and put WM5 back by Monday.
Well my phone has never worked or looked better. I have no GPRS reconnection issues (and I am running 2.47 radio!!!) and I honestly see myself sticking with this for quite a while. I want to see faria's vanilla since the man is so damn talented and to see what the variations are to my current (but basically vanilla is vanilla, right?) and since what I have works I probably won't change.
Will this work for you? I have no idea. I have a few programs & tweaks installed but not a lot. For all I know I am one program away from a meltdown, but for now I am a VERY happy camper.
Dr Puttingham said:
Odd... my device and the 18 or so of my client's that are running Faria's latest (not the vanilla) are estatic, very few issues. Must just be us...
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You and your clients need to try X-plore wm6, you guys will be beyond ecstatic then. no issues what so ever. The speed and amount of free memory is mind bogling
MrBurrito said:
You and your clients need to try X-plore wm6, you guys will be beyond ecstatic then. no issues what so ever. The speed and amount of free memory is mind bogling
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The X-plore's a good ROM no doubt. It DOES have a few issues, all ROM's do, even carrier stock ROM's.
Faria's is the most stable over time that I've installed however, it just works
And it was originally a Wizard ROM and not ported...
(Please understand that I've been running various renditions of his present ROM for the past several months that weren't made available to the masses..)
And everyone talks about free RAM....just how much RAM does one need ?????
the download page windows live cab
hi guys , check this out there is a windows live cab file to download and ist no trial and no beta
http://www.ppc-phones.de/punforum/viewtopic.php?pid=47040
greets , tmobilemda
ps: sorry for my english , i am german
there is another link for the windowslive cab file nobeta notrial and there are cabs for smartphone and ppc
http://www.ppc-phones.de/punforum/viewtopic.php?pid=47815#p47815

Do you have WINDOWS mobile 6 rom? (not talking WIZARD. I'm talking OFFICIAL WM6 ROM)

Do you know where can I find a REAL version of the OFFICIAL Windows Mobile 6 ROM? Do you have it? do you know a link?
There probably wont be anyone who will claim this. No one has it officially. Plus if anyone does they will not speak up. You might as well try getting milk from a bull.
Thanks for your prompt response... It means that all WM6 (Wizard Mobile 6) roms are a Windows Mobile 5 customization, or aren't they?
So, what's the big deal on changing from your original rom to an unknown version when you can install all apps included in these roms without risk?
At least, in your opinion, which is the best, most stable, faster and tools-rich rom out there for an HTC Wizard G4 ? Faria? X-Plore? Love? mUn? other?
I'm asking this because I tested almost all roms here, and cannot say that there is a real difference (except for the make-up details) from one to another... Maybe as an expert you can help me to take the right decision on what's the best Rom to flash...
do you want and excelent ROM??
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Thanks for your prompt response... It means that all WM6 (Wizard Mobile 6) roms are a Windows Mobile 5 customization, or aren't they?
So, what's the big deal on changing from your original rom to an unknown version when you can install all apps included in these roms without risk?
At least, in your opinion, which is the best, most stable, faster and tools-rich rom out there for an HTC Wizard G4 ? Faria? X-Plore? Love? mUn? other?
I'm asking this because I tested almost all roms here, and cannot say that there is a real difference (except for the make-up details) from one to another... Maybe as an expert you can help me to take the right decision on what's the best Rom to flash...
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Try out Xplore v1.1 ROM you will love it. If you dont find it usefull or dont notice any difference at all. Go back to your WM5 ROM.
Look at my signiture!
BTW: O2 Germany will bring a HTC P4350 with WM6 in 2 weeks.
In all honesty, they are diffrent, just not a M$ release. They are not WM5 OS files. Now as for the best, it depends on what you like. Some like my Vanilla, slot of people like Xplore. It all really depends on what you are going to use it for.
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In all honesty, they are diffrent, just not a M$ release. They are not WM5 OS files. Now as for the best, it depends on what you like. Some like my Vanilla, slot of people like Xplore. It all really depends on what you are going to use it for.
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I'm very proud to talk with a ROM creator (seriously). So tell me more about your vanilla ROM... I tested the latest (I think) version of this rom. It was really nice but it doesn't have some tools/programs than others have.
I'm looking for a fast ROM that contains useful teaks and tools to manage the phone as easier as possible.
I use my phone as a mobile office (MMS and SMS are critical to me, good reception at call time, Word, Excel and PDF viewer are critical too, connect to WiFi networks, ActiveSync) and sometimes (specially in airports while waiting for a flight) as a fun center.
Rarely I browse the Internet or use my phone as MP3 player or movie player.
Sounds like I can use the WM5 that came with my phone but I found it SOOooo slow for every task I do.
based on these expectations, what do you think is the best rom for me?
LOL. This is the reason i Started cooking.
Mine does not have all those apps, you are correct. But thats why its a Vanilla version. It gives a (somewhat) stable building ground for ROM Cookers to get a close to clean version without all the tearing and ripping out others includes.
Reffering 2 Xplore v1.1 ROM
Okay, whats up with the WIFI(won't turn on)? doesn't work on my Cingular 8125 plus the MMS too, can't receive o send. Apart from that its okay(doesn't have memory issue like other Roms)...but i had to go back to Most beautiful coz of the WIFI & MMS.... anyone got a solution?
Oh and another question i downloaded the ipl/spl 3... but when i extract it with WINrar... it shows the nkf... something blah blah file... like how do i flash the ipl/spl 3... on my fone?
bjerry101 said:
Okay, whats up with the WIFI(won't turn on)? doesn't work on my Cingular 8125 plus the MMS too, can't receive o send. Apart from that its okay(doesn't have memory issue like other Roms)...but i had to go back to Most beautiful coz of the WIFI & MMS.... anyone got a solution?
Oh and another question i downloaded the ipl/spl 3... but when i extract it with WINrar... it shows the nkf... something blah blah file... like how do i flash the ipl/spl 3... on my fone?
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For many people just two registrysettings solved the wifi issu. I posted it several time in the xplore thread. Just have a look and read.
HKLM\Comm\TnetWln1\Parms\HTCPreloadstatus --> 1
HKLM\Comm\TnetWln1\Parms\HTCPreloadWifi --> 1
If you want an official WM6 ROM you can get those from the Official Windows Mobile 6 SDK . You can get them here.
But I don't know if these ROMs can be adapted to an real PDA...
That's a Nice and interesting question, my friend...
Anybody knows if it is possible to rip the rom from a virtual PDA and load it into a real PDA?

is it really worth it?

Hi all,
Ive just got myself a tmobile wizard. ive been looking all through the wm6 pages and was just wondering is it worth me updating my wm5 to wm6. im sure all the new users would like to know this (is there speed improvements etc) and is there a rom that is stable and 99% working? as ive had alot of problems in the past when updating my blueangel to wm5
apologies if these are stupid questions
IMO, there's not enough extra in WM6 to justify the little problems it has. I'd suggest a stable WM5 like Farias 3.3
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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I would 2nd that!!! Now that we have the Ir button working 100%, i dont think there is other problems
So far so good here....
I know it's kinda aging now but I have been running NotTooSmart's Vanilla Rom for a while now and I have no issues whatsoever. I use my device constantly all day every day and though there was some trick to getting it to work just how I wanted I was comfortable enough to put the same ROM on my wife's Wizard as well (If you only knew how big of a step this was.... god forbid something goes wrong there I will never hear the end of it) .
Overall, here is the list of things that I do with rom if you are contemplating using it yourself and want to know if it will work for you.
Exchange activesync (heavy use)
Pocket IE
AIM 2.0 for PPC (osed once or twice)
Watching movies with TCPMP
( SEE TCPMP NOTES BELOW )
I use WMP as my only MP3 player with a couple of SD cards
WIFI works fine
Bluetooth headset with my HT850 works fine
Phone works okay. I mean, nothing is perfect and I do miss a call on occasion but so far it's acceptable. I have found, despite my previous posts, that 2.19 UK actually is more reliable. 2.25 US is better for data in my area but 2.19 UK causes me to miss a lot less calls.
I use internet radio via TCPMP at the gym every day reliably.
Sirius Sat Radio via SiriusWM5 works great although on occasion I do get the odd program error - NOTE: happens in WM5 too.
I DO NOT OVERCLOCK AT ALL as I really have no need for it.
Ewallet latest release works great
Listpro works great
I use a whole bunch of networking apps (tracert, pocket ping, etc...) from way back in the WM2003 days that still work just fine on WM6.
Terminal services works (though most people will not use this).
TCPMP NOTE: In order to do internet radio and most video you will need to DL and install the WMV9 codecs. This is a known issue and can be found by searching through back posts here in the WM6 forum.
Overall, I say yeah, it's worth it. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than anything but it's a "nice to have". Plus, HTML email is real nice if you have EXCH 2007.
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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How is the battery life with this rom?
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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I think this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
Make sure you have either G3 or G4 device as downloading the wrong version will brick your device.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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If you are wanting to give WM6 a go, then the Faria 3.3 rom is not the correct one. That is a WM5 rom.
The Faria Clean / Vanilla is the WM6 one. You have to download the entire ROM Kitchen, but there is a flash rom directory that has a default rom already built (or you can go through the build process to add and remove the stuff you want / don't want.
The link for the Faria WM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406 (same as given above, but that is NOT the AKU 3.3 Faria ROM)
If you really want Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its a stable WM5 ROM) then its here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
And then use this link to step you through flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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How is the battery life with this rom?
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it seems better than any wm6 i have tried , it does not have battery status installed and i have not installed it yet so without that and no overclocking its holding up as good as it did with farias wm5 3.3.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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sometimes you can get around the 90 minute wait by just putting http://anonym.to/? infront of the URL. Doesn't always work but its worth a try.
Is it worth it?
I know I'm coming in late to the thread, but I think in general I would be a bit more cautious. The leap from a stock rom to a (necessarily) custom WM6 rom, and then to a rom kitchen is better taken in baby steps in my opinion. In my own view, objectively I don't see any difference in my day to day usage of my wizard from when I was running WM5. In fact, I think because I've become obsessed with tinkering with it, I spend more time trying out different odds and ends, tweaking and breaking and fixing things than I do using it!
If you are primarily interested in USING you Wizard, I would start with a small step to say the Faria 3.3 WM5 rom. Learn to unlock, and flash, load your programs again, etc. Then once that's digested move up to WM6 if you really feel the itch, then try a rom kitchen as a final step.
Whatever you do, Keep it Fun!
Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
cobra2222 said:
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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No, its a "Vanilla" or "Clean" rom (ie: pretty much stripped down to the core). So you then add back to it just what you want.
If you want a full featured WM6, then look at Faria's "the real thing" but there are issues with that one so you have to dig through the huge thread for fixes (so I don't recommend it). If you want something that feels like a "stock" rom, then do the Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its WM5, but its better than the stock ones IMO).
I like the Vanilla roms though as you just put on it what you want. But not everyone likes that.
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
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I think that's a great idea. Even if you put in all his currently available options, it is still more of a vanilla rom. Maybe with and without Voice Command, as that seems to be a make or break issue for folks. But serve it up the way you like it!
cobra2222 said:
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Well, if you're going to do this, now its time to start reading that thread.
Good luck!
i just want to install the vanilla standard rom, do i just need to run an exe from the kitchen folder?

Is anyone working on a WM6 port from a 'real' released ROMs from Hermes etc?

As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
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i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
alexanderi said:
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
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This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.

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