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WM6.0 upgrade for the most inexperienced WM5.0 HTC prophet user.

Hi Friends,
I'm a very very fool and inexperienced QTEK S200 user.
I have never tried ROM update upto now.
Can any one guide me to update my QTEK S200 from WM5.0 to WM6.0 step by step.
Assume that I just know how to read and push the buttons.
Let me introduce my QTEK S200 to you.
ROM version: 2.20.7.21.WWE
ROM date: 7/10/06
Radio Version:02.40.21
Protocol Version: 4.1.13.20
ExtROM Version:2.20.7.101
IPL:2.20.0001
SPL:2.20.0001
I haven't done any modifications on locks and etc.
I don't know if it is cid locked or not.
I know that it is not gsm locked.
Thank you for you patience and time wasted for me and the guys like me.
You can send "step-by-step" guide to my e-mail if you want.
[email protected]

wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar

I was going to say "hey mine is "
but then i checked and it isn't
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
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Could you please locate the .exe to be downloaded.
And places to download upgraderom.bat or similar applications.
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
cr0ssy said:
wow I didn't know there was a 2.20 prophet ipl around^^
if you take the smart crossbow rom:
1. hardreset (camera and recorder button und reset)
2. when you are back in align screen, (the screen were you have to klick on crosses on the display ) you leave it there and connect it to the computer
3. in the upcoming active sync window you press cancel to stay in guestmode
4. extract all the files from the exe you downloaded it into a folder
5. run upgraderom.bat or similar
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dionysos77 said:
Be sure I know NOTHING about upgrading.
Please behave like,
you are on the phone with a 12 yearsold child.
And you are trying to teach that child to safely land on a airbus.
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I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades

The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
redandr said:
I wouldn't try to teach this child to land an airbus.. especially if that child doesn't want to listen and learn.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
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dionysos77 said:
The link was great.
thank you.
Aaand it is time to chose a WM6.0 ROM ..
Any suggestions for the first trial.
Links for ROMs and related pathces (if required for charging or phone calls)
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just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069

And than it is getting confusing again.
The first link sent was very clear and easy to apply.
But the suggested link is 11 pages long threath with again so much problems etc.
What I try to do is to figure out comleted, step by step installation guide.
For example:
1-download xxxx.zip from www.xxxx.com
2-download yyyy.exe from www.yyyy.com
3-download zzz.cab , ttt.cab and kkk.cab
3-extract xxxx.zip to C:/xxxx you will have aaa.cab,bbb.dat and ccc.tmp
4-run yyyy.exe go file->open, select bbb.dat and open it.
5-.......
.....
....
Is there any body that can provide this information for newbies.
acer175 said:
just go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299069
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Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy

thanks this would be the best way I think.
kenxu said:
Use the first page to get the rom . use the second link to fix the problems you have. I'm not sure why you have to run wm6 as a newbie? I think you better off stay on wm5 aku 3.x or 2.x its less bleeding edge, hence less bugs to worry about. I admit, once you start upgrade roms, you became hooked, you start try all kinds of roms, and at that point you wont be a newbie anymore. In case you will ask me where are the wm5 roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1166781&postcount=1
Enjoy
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I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..

I decided to do so.
Even I have read related threads and deciden to open this thread to prepare a installation guide think it wont work because of the reasons that you mentioned.
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
After all I'll prepare some guides for newbies for the ROMs that I used.
and add as new threads here and in my language for our forums.
lo0m said:
I would write you a guide from heart, no problem. But the point is that every ROM has it's own installation-procedure!
Some use the upgrade.bat, while others use the RUU (ROMUpdateUltility.exe).
Some need to be installed from bootloader, other one's need to be installed from within the OS itself.
That's why everybody who wants to flash ROM's on his device should know the basics of flashing.
And all the basics can be found in the wiki, mentioned here before.
After learning the basics, choose a ROM you want to use.
Then you should start reading every topic related to this ROM from 1st to last post, like we all did when
we wanted to flash our first ROM!!
When you've read everything, you'll know exactly what to expect and what to do..
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dionysos77 said:
I'll follow smart1's ROM page and after I belive in there is no fatal error on the rom I'll flash it to my prophet.
The only information that I neeed will be should I cid unlock my device or not.
I think I'll be able to find this info also.
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You don't have to CID-unlock your device to flash (Prophet-)ROM's. Not the one's released here on xda-developers anyway.
grtz

Should not be a problem by now posting the same post three times!
Hundreds of people have managed to flash their device. Experienced as well as newbies. It's a little anoying to look at the latest posts and fined some multiple times. Yours is not more important then any other one!
If you realy want to do something with your device that's far from standard you also have to be willing to feed yourself with tons of info. Sure everybody would like a DIY document in their mailbox. But who will be held resonsable when you do something you don't even have a clue off?
Further if you think the WiKi is not clear enough to real newbies, then contribute to this forum and place your info in the WiKi so you can help others, like we all try to do here

Did any one have windows mobile 6

hello Did any one have windows mobile OS 6
Becouse i downloaded many ver. of flashing i founded it for Windows Mobile OS 5.1 no for 6 from this Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355591
did any one have the OS 6 PLease post me the direct link here
pleaseeeeee

You are not CID unlocked. Go through the threads again. Follow each step!!!

I think he is confused. Most of the wm6 versions usualy start at 5.1xx,318 and up.
when you start your phone, got to settings/ about. that should tell you what windows you have.
as for the best rom, I would start with Faria's rom or the TNT roms. people say very nice things about them. I don't use them because the networking settings somehow don't work for me.
Make sure you READ the directions posted by Faria

S.V.I said:
I think he is confused. Most of the wm6 versions usualy start at 5.1xx,318 and up.
when you start your phone, got to settings/ about. that should tell you what windows you have.
as for the best rom, I would start with Faria's rom or the TNT roms. people say very nice things about them. I don't use them because the networking settings somehow don't work for me.
Make sure you READ the directions posted by Faria
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Windows 6 is not truly a 6...as stated, it is various builds of 5.xxx (at least to my best knowledge, this is true). As for various builds, it depends on what you want. I use Jaguar as it is highly stable and quick. But, also as stated, you must be CID unlocked. If you are not certain of the difference in WM5 or WM6 builds, then I would very strongly suggest you read the various stickies and wiki at least twice before doing anything at all. You need to be CID unlocked. You need to know if you have a G3 or G4 Wizard (which has 2 different unlock methods). You need to understand how to flash a custom rom. There are plenty of WM6 roms here, and it seems there is some confusion for you, so please, READ READ READ first to clear up your confusion. Anything you do, you do at your own risk.

How should I choose a ROM?

I've very new to all this, having used a non-PDA/smartphone (SE637) for many years before purchasing a Tilt. While quite PC-literate, I find myself very intimidated with all this. I read as much as my mind allows before requiring large quantities of diet-coke -- then I need a nap to calm myself down from the soda before reading any more, or my head explodes.
I think that I need a new ROM, but I'm not sure why! Everywhere I read, that's what I'm told.
This community is very knowledgable and seems very helpful. As this appears to be more for developers than users like me, I'm hesitant to ask my question for fear of offending a developer, which isn't my intent. I'm looking for information that might assist me in choosing which ROM to use.
I suppose that I want the phone to run faster, be easier to use/see (I don't see as well as I did 50 years ago... ), and have the latest of whatever is the best at the moment, spending as little as possible in the process. A truly never-ending story...

Before you start flashing decide what's important to you. Are you looking for a certian look & feel? Is fuctionality more important or do you want spped/stability?
Then research the different Roms, most include feature lists & screen shots in the first few posts of the thread.
So what it really comes down to is a lot of reading.
Oh and be sure to HardSPL your device BEFORE doing anything.

Also, like kyphur said read and do the hardSPL first but for me I found it's most helpful just to try some. Download a few, flash them give it a whirl and see what you like. Once you try a few you'll find options and programs you love and will start looking for roms that have what you need and more importantly what you don't like. And if you never find anything you love then start cooking. There are a lot of great wikis here to guide you step by step.
Hope this helps.

Start with Wiki first. Once you hardspl, load your first rom. You will find how easy it is and start to flash more roms like crazy. Experiment, and then you will find what you like. After flashing your first rom, you will realize how much better your new rom is compare to the stock rom.

just start off by choosing a few roms...then read about it as the chef would describe their rom...see which one fits u most...then make sure u read teh wiki and faq before u actually start ur flashing...to make sure nothing goes wrong...and then if that doesnt fit u..try another rom..but all the roms here...are better than stock for sure

I knew this wasn't going to be easy... Rating system anyone? I suppose I'm also nervous about doing a first flash. What about CID and SIM unlocking?

MarkAtHome said:
I knew this wasn't going to be easy... Rating system anyone? I suppose I'm also nervous about doing a first flash. What about CID and SIM unlocking?
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HardSPL removes the Carrier lock (CID) from your phone. As for SIM unlocking, I haven't bothered yet because I don't travel anywhere that AT&T doesn't provide service.
Once you've done your share of reading, if you are still confused about what type of ROM you are looking for, check out whatever the latest Dutty release is at that point in time. Dutty's Kaiser ROMs are probably the most popular on XDA.
I use a [somewhat] clean ROM myself, with the bare minimum preloaded. This way I can install what I need, and not worry about wasted space for programs I don't use.

eenie meenie minie moe
j/p
however, for Christ sake, please have hardspl installed.
Just pick one by reading the changelogs usually located in the first couple of posts.

P1Tater said:
eenie meenie minie moe
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Yours sounds best!

NotATreoFan said:
HardSPL removes the Carrier lock (CID) from your phone. As for SIM unlocking, I haven't bothered yet because I don't travel anywhere that AT&T doesn't provide service.
Once you've done your share of reading, if you are still confused about what type of ROM you are looking for, check out whatever the latest Dutty release is at that point in time. Dutty's Kaiser ROMs are probably the most popular on XDA.
I use a [somewhat] clean ROM myself, with the bare minimum preloaded. This way I can install what I need, and not worry about wasted space for programs I don't use.
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Is there a Tilt-specific version (currently with ATT's latest released ROM) of HardSPL that avoids all the headaches I'm reading about?
I'm still not sure how this works, but if I were to go Dutty's, should I look for UC - from what I'm gathering, I could then get a minimum ROM version, choose what I want added, then somehow update that bare ROM to include my choices, keeping all my settings in the process? A hard reset, if needed, would restore the new UC basic ROM along with what I added -- do I have this right?

MarkAtHome said:
Is there a Tilt-specific version (currently with ATT's latest released ROM) of HardSPL that avoids all the headaches I'm reading about?
I'm still not sure how this works, but if I were to go Dutty's, should I look for UC - from what I'm gathering, I could then get a minimum ROM version, choose what I want added, then somehow update that bare ROM to include my choices, keeping all my settings in the process? A hard reset, if needed, would restore the new UC basic ROM along with what I added -- do I have this right?
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The version of HardSPL required is determined by what version SPL that is on your phone. If you reboot your phone in bootloader mode, you will see a version number for SPL. As long as you follow the directions for that version, you will be fine.

NotATreoFan said:
The version of HardSPL required is determined by what version SPL that is on your phone. If you reboot your phone in bootloader mode, you will see a version number for SPL. As long as you follow the directions for that version, you will be fine.
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Thanks, NotATreoFan. I found info on what a bootloader is, and this is the info displayed:
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.93.0000
CPLD-8
What should my search criteria look like to find the HardSPL that I need to use?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
and i think from your spl version you can pretty much guess which one you have to use

XtreMe_G said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
and i think from your spl version you can pretty much guess which one you have to use
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Thanks for the help, XtreMe_G. Just so I have this straight, out of the 4 files listed, I only need to download and run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.zip and I'm done? The Tilt is now prepared to accept any appropriate ROM?

MarkAtHome said:
Thanks for the help, XtreMe_G. Just so I have this straight, out of the 4 files listed, I only need to download and run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.zip and I'm done? The Tilt is now prepared to accept any appropriate ROM?
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You need JumpSPL to get started, and then you need HardSPL to flash. 2 zip files total. Memorize the steps prior to starting, and do NOT skip any of them for any reason...

man...I thought I gave you advice yesterday on what to do. Literally, thousands of people have hardspl their roms just fine. Even a couple blonde girls in this forum have done it. It is not that hard and you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just follow the instructions and you will be just fine. After your first flash, you will move couple levels up in knowledge.

NotATreoFan said:
You need JumpSPL to get started, and then you need HardSPL to flash. 2 zip files total. Memorize the steps prior to starting, and do NOT skip any of them for any reason...
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Will do ask you suggest. Just a thought... by doing this, will anything on my phone be affected (programs, settings, etc.)? I'm, obviously nervous about all this, and while I will follow your instructions with hardSPL, I'm not yet ready to flash a ROM.

thomassster said:
man...I thought I gave you advice yesterday on what to do. Literally, thousands of people have hardspl their roms just fine. Even a couple blonde girls in this forum have done it. It is not that hard and you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just follow the instructions and you will be just fine. After your first flash, you will move couple levels up in knowledge.
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Your information was very valuable. I just needed a little more detail to help calm my nerves...

Upgrading & installing ROMs and Themes - HELP

I have a Sprint Touch Pro. I want to upgrade the ROM in my device, however I'm a bit confused on some of the terms and language and what actual forum I need to find ROMs for my phone. I've posted a couple of threads in the Encyclopedia portion of this site, hoping to learn a bit more about my phone, but still have a some questions about upgrading.
I've read the Flashing Tutorial in the Raphael forum but am confused about a few things.
What is Hard SPL and why do I need to do this? There are 3 to choose from and I'm not sure which one is best and why.
" 0.37 for Sprint/Alltel/Telus/Bell, for other people, this has no screen issues but no MFG commands."
Things like this make me scratch my head....
"then in the newly created RUU directory add the rom of your choice - (copy the RUU_Signed.nbh to desktop\RUU)"
Things like this make me confused...
I'm posting these questions here because the information I need seems to be spread everywhere and with more than one person posting it's kind of confusing.
The whole reason I'm wanting to upgrade is because of MobileMatt's themes that are so fantastically eye catching and extremely user friendly - however, his newer ones require specific ROMs which I desperately want because they are so much better. And, I'm finding myself in unfamiliar territory. I'm not afraid to hack up my phone - I just want to make sure I do it right. I don't want a $600 brick.

Bump! Any and all help is sincerely appreciated.

put the nbh file in the same directory as custom ruu.
Yes you need hard spl or you will trash our boot loader and more than likely brick your device.

Thank you for your input! Any more advice?

Is there an easy way to upgrade 02 xda mini

Im just a newbie and I really dont know anything to begin with, flashing and stuff, why did the developers of XDA did not make the upgrade easy? Im tired of using win mobile 2003? why did the developers of win mobile 6 make it easy, now the problem I really don't know how to start? the procedures are to technical and to risky? I really dont know? can anyone help?

Because new rom designed only for experienced users.
you should look into official rom at first and understand basic Windows Mobile stuffs and features.

great answer.
But you are right. The instructions are basically simple and as easy as possible.
If someone says "does not work" without precise information at which point of the instructions he is stuck he is basically too lazy to check things out on his own.

tobias1981 said:
great answer.
But you are right. The instructions are basically simple and as easy as possible.
If someone says "does not work" without precise information at which point of the instructions he is stuck he is basically too lazy to check things out on his own.
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that´s why i bought a second device. first device for testing and a second device for everyday using.

Hi i have successfully upgrade my German O2 XDA Mini direckt from German Orginal Rom with Radio 1.12 to Cotullas 6.1 Rom.
It was a Little Bit Tricky.
When i connect the XDA in Bootloader-Mode and start the Upgrade the Toll does not find the Version on my Device. But Serial connection work fine. In the describtion was wrote that the Device must beconnectet by Serial-Bootloader and Active Sync in same Time. But my Active-Sync want not Sync in Bootloader-Modus.
OK get off Bootloader-Mode and Sync my Device, .... start Flash Tool again, .... now the Tool list my correckt Softwareversion and list Cotullas Version as Update, ... when i klick Upgrade he turns the Magician Automatik into Bootloader mode and want Start Flashing. But at the beginning i became a issue that the FW was not made 4 my Device and Upgrade was not possible.
After that i repressed the upgrade button, ... he doesnt list my Softwareversion but lists Cotullas at this time, ... Magicia is still in Loader-Mode. I press Flash, ... wait 20min and everything is Fine.
Now i have the English Cotulla Rom without Flashing anything bevore.
Here only the Steps:
1. Connect Device normal(not Bootloader) and Try upgrade. It Stop with a message that the Firmware is not for these Device.
2. Just retry, upgrade, it does not list the current SW Version, but just Flash, it will work.
And, .... sry i have to say that, ... Cotulla i Love You!!!!!