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NBD 8.x doesnt do anything!

Hy everyone. I tried installing NBD 8.1, 8.2, and 8.3 on my phone today and it goes well. It says it has finished updating my phone and then when I start my phone, it says its being customized and I see everything being installed. After it is done installing, it resets. When it resets it is just the same old thing. It looks the same way it did when I first bought the phone. Im using a Cingular 8125 if it makes any difference. Thanks.

Your phone is still CID locked.
Follow this tutorial to unlock it, and follow the steps closely.

i wouldnt follow that tutorial just yet. You still need to give us a little more information like if your wizard is a G3/G4. You can only cidunlock your wizard if it is a G3.

I wonder why newbies are always told to CID unlock...
Shelltool works perfectly for flashing new OS (I flashed my CID locked G4 at least 6 times) and there should not be any risk of bricking the phone...
Mirek

mirekluza said:
I wonder why newbies are always told to CID unlock...
Shelltool works perfectly for flashing new OS (I flashed my CID locked G4 at least 6 times) and there should not be any risk of bricking the phone...
Mirek
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I agree! I'd been flashing my G4 phone from about 5 months ago with different ROMs (almost continuously)... ShellTool is the best tool that I tried to flash ROMs without risk.
Cheers!

mirekluza said:
I wonder why newbies are always told to CID unlock...
Shelltool works perfectly for flashing new OS (I flashed my CID locked G4 at least 6 times) and there should not be any risk of bricking the phone...
Mirek
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nobody bothers to read anymore and dont know what the search link looks like. The just jump on the bandwagon. But its true i had a hard time following some instructions but i got through it.

Really??
I used shelltool 2 times without problem, but then i get the 1 time a message - flashing done after 8 minutes and the flash wasnt really on the phone. Since then i use RUU (which is in the love wizard rom package) and it works for me.
Today i tried flashing nbd 8.3 to faria aku 3.3 and other faria rom with aku 4. In both casec the flashing stoped at 99% and i had to reflash it with nbd rom.
The flash didnt end , cause i have cid-locked phone?? I would like to have a newer aku(i have 2.3). HELP

I used Shelltool to install the rom I had. It finished after about ten minutes, and then I hard reset my device.
Whenever I start my phone up now it just hangs on the Cingular start up screen and this is what it says.
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 6.6.6.666
Any idea what went wrong or if there is any way to fix this?
Thanks

Are you using Vista?

Nope. I used Windows XP Pro.

I had the same problem with shelltool on xp pro sp2. Get the phone in bootloader mode and flash again. Maybe with RUU , which is in the wizard love rom package. Just replace the .nkb file (rom file) to one u want.

I don't like this topic name. It should be: "I don't know how to install new rom"

A few advices from long time shelltool user
(I used it to flash "faria real thing", several version of "crossbow reloaded", "xda mobile", "pandora", "wrcx3"). I am on a locked G4 phone.
a) I always start by flashing the original ROM of my provider (in my case T-Mobile CZ) in normal way. This may not be a needed, but I read that it is *recommended*to flash your provider's ROM to have some stable base. It takes about 10 minutes or so.
b) Afterwards I flash using shelltool (see shelltool documentation how it is done)
Possible problems with shelltool
a) It does not end and the flashed phone seems to be frozen (clock is not updated etc.):
No problem, flash is done. After 30 minutes from the flash start just take your phone, do the hard reset and everything will work ok.
This (shelltool not ending) happens often, but as I said - it is no problem.
b) The wrong flash
Either the shelltool is interrupted prematurely or it the phone freezes during restart afterwards.
No problem, just reflash your provider's ROM in normal way and try again shelltool.
This happens only very rarely and I never went through this more than once.
Conclusion
Since the shelltool is limited to flashing only OS, you should not ever brick your phone in this way... The most you can do is to screw up your OS - which can be quickly recovered by flashing the official ROM from your provider.
Flashing by normal way is more dangerous: if you flash a locked phone with the ROM containing more than just OS, you can easily brick your phone (if you flash ROM just with the OS you will wonder that nothing has changed - at least this is like I understand it).
Mirek

zoki said:
I don't like this topic name. It should be: "I don't know how to install new rom"
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I have to agree with you Zoki. Has nothing to do with your ROM.

zoki said:
I don't like this topic name. It should be: "I don't know how to install new rom"
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you or anything. I just thought I did it the right way the first time and that something went wrong but not on my part because I followed directions doing it. I'm not saying anything bad about the rom. Sorry!!
I'll try to do it with the RUU then. Thanks a lot.

Where is the latest Faria's Rom ?

Hi, I tried for many times to update my qtek 9100 with some of farias rom, as the last I tried, farias [the real thing], without any good results... The only one that is working now on my phone is Wizard love.
Someone knows where to find the last issue ?
Thanks,
Christian
Brazil
Qtek9100

I thought faria's the real thing was the latest faria rom... Oh and how are you trying to flash the rom and is your device a G3 or G4?
If your device is a G3(1.xx or 2.xx or 3.08) then you will need to CID unlock the device before you can flash anything with RUU
If the device is a G4(2.xx.0001) then you have 2 options. You can either use shelltools to flash, or use the-equinox's new SoftSPL which temporarily CID unlocks the device thus not voiding your warranty and allows you to flash any rom with RUU.
This is the link to what I believe is faria's latest rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762

Thanks for your reply.
I guess you are right, the last version was crossbow, but I found many of them on a ftp (ftp://130.89.126.174:2311/Wizard/Roms/WM6 Roms/), and this is the last reference I guess.
06/08/2007 01:21 Directory Crossbow Reloaded 1.7.1
I tryed two methods.
Fisrt, using the package application utility.
Second, using shelltools, uploading the .nbf file.
My device is a G4, and as far as i read I dont see any issues on upgrading using CID-lock devide.
When I flash using shelltools, Do I need to clean the current device rom, or just send the new one should work ?!
Before flash I did a backup using wizard service tool, and it generates some files with .fls extensions. Is it possible to put then back in order to have my phone to the original state ?
And the last question ( )
Temporary unlocking using your suggestion (SoftSPL) could damage something if the process kill before ends ?
Thanks for your time, answering that.
The major of xda posts says, Ask before !!!!
Regards,
Christian

Follow THIS tutorial, you'll do fine.
Post any questions related there, there's no need for new threads.
Thank You.

Latest Latest Rom
To be completely accurate, Faria's latest latest ROM is in the kitchen he released (sticky at the top of this forum). This is a minor upgrade to the Real Thing ROM, but is worth checking out, plus its a great way to get started with cooking your own rom.

chrispaiva said:
Thanks for your reply.
I guess you are right, the last version was crossbow, but I found many of them on a ftp (ftp://130.89.126.174:2311/Wizard/Roms/WM6 Roms/), and this is the last reference I guess.
06/08/2007 01:21 Directory Crossbow Reloaded 1.7.1
I tryed two methods.
Fisrt, using the package application utility.
Second, using shelltools, uploading the .nbf file.
My device is a G4, and as far as i read I dont see any issues on upgrading using CID-lock devide.
When I flash using shelltools, Do I need to clean the current device rom, or just send the new one should work ?!
Before flash I did a backup using wizard service tool, and it generates some files with .fls extensions. Is it possible to put then back in order to have my phone to the original state ?
And the last question ( )
Temporary unlocking using your suggestion (SoftSPL) could damage something if the process kill before ends ?
Thanks for your time, answering that.
The major of xda posts says, Ask before !!!!
Regards,
Christian
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Give this a try. It temporarily CID unlocks your G4 device allowing you to upgrade via RUU method instead of shelltools. It is much more effective at flashing roms as I was never able to flash faria's rom with shelltools but it finished after 6 minutes with the RUU.
Check this thread out

Thanks all for the prompt response.
I did the process using sspl, and for the first time I could get to the final process....
Thanks a lot,
Christian

Faria's most recent ROM
The Faria kitchen was released on 4/20/07....
but Dr Puttingham mentions in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310816
that this more recent ROM is from Faria "with regards".....which was on 6/7/07
I'm a big fan of Faria's ROMs and Dr Puttinghams instructions/tutorials!

Cant Revert from hardspl

I have been followingthe in structions on how to to this i just want to run l26 diamond with the correct spl so it dosent freeze i get to the sspl-kaiser part and it goes to bootloader but my pc dosent find it when i run the custom ruu??says it fails to find usb or somthing. do i have the wong original att rom im trying to use
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_ with the new att spl supplied inthe reverting thread??? HELPPP please link to the other rom if i do havethe wrong one for this thanks.

jefem24 said:
I have been followingthe in structions on how to to this i just want to run l26 diamond with the correct spl so it dosent freeze i get to the sspl-kaiser part and it goes to bootloader but my pc dosent find it when i run the custom ruu??says it fails to find usb or somthing. do i have the wong original att rom im trying to use
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_ with the new att spl supplied inthe reverting thread??? HELPPP please link to the other rom if i do havethe wrong one for this thanks.
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Once you run sspl and it goes to bootloader it should show USB on the bottom. Once it says that you need to unplug and then replug your device's usb connection. Then continue to the flashing part.

jefem24 said:
I have been followingthe in structions on how to to this i just want to run l26 diamond with the correct spl so it dosent freeze i get to the sspl-kaiser part and it goes to bootloader but my pc dosent find it when i run the custom ruu??says it fails to find usb or somthing. do i have the wong original att rom im trying to use
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_ with the new att spl supplied inthe reverting thread??? HELPPP please link to the other rom if i do havethe wrong one for this thanks.
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okay if i understand correctly, u already have hardspl?
spl's r not rom specific. ur phone comes with an spl and flashing roms over ur carriers spl can and will lead to u bricking ur phone.
now if u r trying to flash hardspl than follow instructions to the "t" and post back.

lol
that one vital step got me un plugging and replugging the phone lmao
ok im at 1.93 thats the newest??? thought i read somthing about a 3.25 but it was german
is 1.93 good fro l26 diamond?

jefem24 said:
that one vital step got me un plugging and replugging the phone lmao
ok im at 1.93 thats the newest??? thought i read somthing about a 3.25 but it was german
is 1.93 good fro l26 diamond?
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okay i will repeat that is a version of jumpspl; it has nothing to do with the rom. ROMS ARE NOT spl dependent. As long as you get hardspl onto your device (doesn't matter if you use jumpspl 1.93 or 1.5x, whichever one works) you can flash leos, dutty's, shogunmark's, kyphurs, _alex_'s anyones rom you want.

but the freezing issue is the reason i was doing all this im so confused now do i need to re hard spl my phone again to flash other roms what would be the purpose of soing what ive done then??? or are people just guessing at the stalling issue still?????

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okay i will repeat that is a version of jumpspl; it has nothing to do with the rom. ROMS ARE NOT spl dependent. As long as you get hardspl onto your device (doesn't matter if you use jumpspl 1.93 or 1.5x, whichever one works) you can flash leos, dutty's, shogunmark's, kyphurs, _alex_'s anyones rom you want.
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1.93 is actually a valid AT&T SPL it is the updated (although not the latest) one. So he might not be referring to jumpSPL even though there is also a version 1.93 of that (most probably based off the AT&T SPL).

jefem24 said:
but the freezing issue is the reason i was doing all this im so confused now do i need to re hard spl my phone again to flash other roms what would be the purpose of soing what ive done then??? or are people just guessing at the stalling issue still?????
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I don't want to blow you off, but you should really go back and read the threads dealing with this to get a better understanding.. There are a few and they answer all the questions. If you are read them and still have questions or problems, post in those threads since continuing this thread is just more of the same.

jefem24 said:
but the freezing issue is the reason i was doing all this im so confused now do i need to re hard spl my phone again to flash other roms what would be the purpose of soing what ive done then??? or are people just guessing at the stalling issue still?????
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when u mentioned 1.93 i thought u were referring to jump spl (thanks for clarrifying bengalih).
yes apparently going back to the att spl does fix freezes (can't confirm as i haven't tried) and if u need help with that post under relevant thread as bengalih suggested.
yes if u r going to flash a cooked rom u will need to reflash hardspl first.

Few Questions After Reading the Wiki Tutorials

I have an AT&T Tilt and would like to flash the firmware to the HyperDragon III which can be found in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
Following the directions in the TILT Specific Wiki, I flashed the HardSPL which was version 1.57.502.2. This was the file listed in the thread for the TILT.
Checking out the other threads in this forum, it looks like there are now HardSPL version in the 3 range like 3.07 3.28 3.29.
I'm confused if the file listed on the TILT Wiki was correct or if I actually need a different HardSPL file.
My other question is about Radio. I have read all the information about making sure that the radio on my phone will work with the rom that I would like to install.
What I cant seem to find though is how to check what radio my phone is currently using ?
Any help on this would be appreciated.
I know that answers are probably in the forum somewhere I just can't seem to find the right search string to pull it up.

Use the HardSPL found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (this is a sticky on the ROM dev page).
Here is a guide for Radios: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182 - basically flash a radio onto your device and test it out. Different radios will give you better/worse battery life, affect connectivity, GPS, and the like. Performance varies by region and what ROM you have installed.
Here is another link you may find useful: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Hope this helps.

So the newer versions of the HardSPL have the same benefits as the one I installed said it did ? Such as being able to go back to older, original roms and helping to protect against bricking ?

QuantamPulse said:
So the newer versions of the HardSPL have the same benefits as the one I installed said it did ? Such as being able to go back to older, original roms and helping to protect against bricking ?
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The 3.* versions of Hard Spl do the same as the 1.* versions - they allow you to flash cooked Roms. The 3.* have better compatability with WM6.1 than the 1.* versions, thats all.
Ta
Dave

Another question, I am trying to flash the new 3.56 HardSPL before installing the new Rom.
Do I need to use the SoftSPL even though I already have the 1.5x HardSPL installed or can I just run the update like normal.
Also, when trying to run the update like normal using the KaiserCustom RUU File, I run through the wizard and after getting my phone information it correctly shows that I currently have 1.5x, however it says that I will be updating to 1.00.000.0
Is this normal ? Or should it actually show that it is updating to 3.56 ?

yes thats normal one quick thing search for jockeys security unlocker that has saved many headaches

youtube solution
Hi, the youtube video below walks you through it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezZ-2lHi3T8&NR=1

Flash - What Went Wrong?

I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.

My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam

Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave

Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?

BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.

Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks

Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.

-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read

DaveTME said:
Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave