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Hard SPL Problems

I have problems to use the Hard-Spl v1. I have a new HTC-Kaiser from T-Mobile. I start the Application HARD-SPL (I want to upgrating with Dutty´s ROM)
I run the kaiser-hardSPL.exe on Computer (PC)
I follow instructions on screen!!!!!
on the mobile i the question to start the applikation i answer Yes and then i get a with screen on the HTC Kaiser. NO tri-color-screen !!!
Please help, thx
Thomas

Thomas_Germany_Hamburg said:
I have problems to use the Hard-Spl v1. I have a new HTC-Kaiser from T-Mobile. I start the Application HARD-SPL (I want to upgrating with Dutty´s ROM)
I run the kaiser-hardSPL.exe on Computer (PC)
I follow instructions on screen!!!!!
on the mobile i the question to start the applikation i answer Yes and then i get a with screen on the HTC Kaiser. NO tri-color-screen !!!
Please help, thx
Thomas
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From what I've read you need to remove your sim card and your microsd card then try again

There is no simcard and microsd in the htc Kaiser.
on the HTC Kaiser is the original T-Mobile software, nothing else

Perhaps your problem is related to new SPL... take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349476
Cheers.

When your phone is booting up, look in the lower right corner. If you have a line that reads:
D 1.57.00.00
Then you most likely have the issue in the thread mentioned by jcespi2005. If you have:
D 1.56.00.00
Then its probably something else (as 1.56.00.00 should be able to do the HardSPL).

Why not flash the old SPL to the device then you can use Hard_SPL. I havent checked but arent there original ROM available(of course CID/carrier specific) from before 1.57.

wpbear said:
Why not flash the old SPL to the device then you can use Hard_SPL. I havent checked but arent there original ROM available(of course CID/carrier specific) from before 1.57.
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The real problem is SSPL used to flash HardSPL is not working with this one, so you can't go back to previous SPL... don't know what shipped ROMs are out that allows flash over this SPL...but perhaps this can be a way to go...
Cheers.

The Rom of my Phone is d.1.56.00.00 !
I do a hardreset, but Hard SPL dont work!

well... for the Tilt you can't flash the "official" ROM back to the device because of an "Invalid Vendor ID", I'm not sure why this is but it just doesn't work. You can however flash the AKU0.4.4 ROM to an unmodified Tilt so the CID apparently is good on that ROM. However I've done this and it does not fix the "white screen" issue on the affected devices.

sirsycho said:
well... for the Tilt you can't flash the "official" ROM back to the device because of an "Invalid Vendor ID", I'm not sure why this is but it just doesn't work. You can however flash the AKU0.4.4 ROM to an unmodified Tilt so the CID apparently is good on that ROM. However I've done this and it does not fix the "white screen" issue on the affected devices.
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oh well it was an idea. Another reason for me to put off the Tilt purchase.

wpbear said:
oh well it was an idea. Another reason for me to put off the Tilt purchase.
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I might be returning mine because of this. Bummer.

SSPL,JUMP SPL dont work,pls help!!

Hi, I use to flash cooked roms and go back and forth with official ones together with my spl. Now that i wanted to flash hard spl again so i can use newly cooked roms i cant flash hard spl using sspl or jump spl. it doesnt show usb anymore as how it use to be..anybody pls help? is there a way to flash hard spl without the sspl or jump spl?
thanks guys.

skipperbien said:
is there a way to flash hard spl without the sspl or jump spl?
thanks guys.
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no .. atleast not that i know of. Secondly do you currently have hardspl?? also did you try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
it has options if you don't see usb on bottom.

thesire said:
no .. atleast not that i know of. Secondly do you currently have hardspl?? also did you try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
it has options if you don't see usb on bottom.
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i use to have hard spl sir,and went back to normal official spl,just like going back to official roms.never had a problem..all went smoothly. been running official wm6.1 htc wwe for 2 weeks now with the original spl (not hard spl). Now that i wanted to try again to hard spl and flash cooked roms safely i cant see the usb on the bottom when i do sspl or jump uspl. am i missing something sir??

check for my reply under the sticky at the top of the forum

hard spl flashing...
hello skipper, thesire, and all others,
i wanted to reiterate that you should really read the forum linked above because it has a special "force usb" version of the hard spl installation that mau very well help you.
also, we could all maybe help you a bit more if you could post your firmware/spl versions (the numbers listed at top left on bootloader, but you probably knew that already, lol) Just so we can get a better idea of your situation- the more info the better!
i do a lot of kaiser and athena rom building, I posted a few decent roms at the beginning of the year but i havent released one since... (workin on one now though) but i am not exactly the caliber of rom builder that some of these guys are ... anyways, my point is that i have been in A LOT of hairy situations like this, but persistance is the key, so if i can help in any way i will....

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hello thesire, and all others,
i wanted to reiterate that you should really read the forum linked above because it has a special "force usb" version of the hard spl installation that mau very well help you.
also, we could all maybe help you a bit more if you could post your firmware/spl versions (the numbers listed at top left on bootloader, but you probably knew that already, lol) Just so we can get a better idea of your situation- the more info the better!
i do a lot of kaiser and athena rom building, I posted a few decent roms at the beginning of the year but i havent released one since... (workin on one now though) but i am not exactly the caliber of rom builder that some of these guys are ... anyways, my point is that i have been in A LOT of hairy situations like this, but persistance is the key, so if i can help in any way i will....
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hey genius you are replying to the wrong guy. I DID NOT make the post. The guy who did i already suggested the solution you provided (even before you did) under jockyw's hardspl thread where he posted the same exact problem ....

i have managed to get in to the bootloader to flash the hard spl,using the 1.56 ver of sspl..however,neither of all the hard spl works after that.i cant flash any of the hard spl packages. im really suprise this is happening as i have done a lot of flashing back and forth for my tytnII. oh yah,my spl is 3.29 from the official HTC WWE wm6.1
thanks for all the help..

Flash - What Went Wrong?

I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.

My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam

Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave

Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?

BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.

Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks

Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.

-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read

DaveTME said:
Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave

Help for reverting back to origianl rom! Urgent!!!

first of all sorry for y English...
Ive been read the threads about that, but ive this problem:
i ve a hardspl 3.29 and trying to downgrade to original rom the flashing process stops at 15%.
i can install only custom rom and so i cant reverting back to original rom and spl.
ive been tried to flash first the spl but not working...
someone can help me please?
thx!!

wow, I don't think I've ever haleard it this way before. Usually you can't upgrade to a cooked ROM, not the other way around.
So, you get no errors while installing a cooked ROM, but it stops at 15% when trying to downgrade...
I know that some shipped ROMs flash the SPL at 15%, so this must be the problem.
Undortunately, I am a lucky one who has never had anything bad happen to me while flashing (besides my laptop running out of battery), so I don't really have much advice to give you, but I'm sure somebody else will.
Sorry, hope it all goes well for you

HardSPL prevents itself from being replaced. You need to run JumpSPL or SSPL-KAIS on the phone when it is running WM as normal, which will switch you to triciolor screen, where you can flash the original SPL.
This should be detailed in the "How to revert to factory state" page in the wiki.

thx but ive been done all and now my kaiser it's brick on bootloader:
dont allow to flash hard spl
dont allow to flash custom rom
dont allow to flsh original rom
Help PLease!!!!!!!
tried with mtty but nothing...USB PORT CAN NOT OPEN

Try that sticky thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423486

kilrah said:
Try that sticky thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423486
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tried but no chance...

my suggestion is to search this forum for "stuck in bootloader"
you're sure to find something there

mbarvian said:
my suggestion is to search this forum for "stuck in bootloader"
you're sure to find something there
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now...
solved the stuck problem on bootloaderwith mtty for Vista, but with hardspl it's impossible to flash an original rom on the device (flsh stops at 15% error 226-flash error- wath is?)
so...i want to flash an original rom: waht can i do? help needed please...thx!!!

always prpblem in falshing original update...flashing process stops at 15%. ive downgraded at wm6 with spl 3.07.
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*SOLVED* What Went wrong - Htc Blackstone rom flashing

so i finally did it! i flashed my rom with RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Sense_2.1_Holy_Grail_R0
BUT when i turned the device on the colors were awful, it is slow and it is stucked all the time , sometimes even the "sense" doesn't want to start my CIM Card is not RECOGNIZED i did a soft reset and a hard one... nothing happens please please any ideas what shall i do now?

Do you have the proper hard spl for the rom? I don't own an hd, but do remember reading that you need an upgraded hard spl for newer roms. It sounds like you have a bad bootloader.

alexander42 said:
so i finally did it! i flashed my rom with RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Sense_2.1_Holy_Grail_R0
BUT when i turned the device on the colors were awful, it is slow and it is stucked all the time , sometimes even the "sense" doesn't want to start my CIM Card is not RECOGNIZED i did a soft reset and a hard one... nothing happens please please any ideas what shall i do now?
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Yeah ted is right thats a classic sympton of someone using the wrong hspl/uspl, flash back to a stock rom, read the stickys in the HD rom development section, and upgrade your spl, then flash the rom again and everything should be working fine

ok so i used some different HSPL cuz i didnt find any other for the dutty's, so if i found a normal HSPL (Can you post a link for one sorry?) i shall flash it again ok thanks

alexander42 said:
ok so i used some different HSPL cuz i didnt find any other for the dutty's, so if i found a normal HSPL (Can you post a link for one sorry?) i shall flash it again ok thanks
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The lastest spl for HD is 1.56 here it is, i assume you know what to do with it

Be careful and make sure it's the right one and you know what you're doing.
Flashing the wrong hard spl is the easiest way to brick a device.

another problem the phone doesn't even want to synch with my comp

Have a deep read here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
Good luck,

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The lastest spl for HD is 1.56 here it is, i assume you know what to do with it
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Thanks It worked you are awesome!!!