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Upgrading Radio on G4 locked device?

How does one go ahead and flash to an updated Radio Rom on a G4 Cingular locked Wizzard? I am currently running NBD 8.0 using 2.25 radio and would like to try out faria's 2.69 radio...and have the nk.nbf file for the radio. Do I just flash it using ShellTool as I have done with all the other full operating systems? Is this even possible to flash the radio on a G4 locked device?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319751&page=18
im not sure if you read the nbd 8.0 thread lately but you asked this similar question and it was answered for ya if you still dont understand just mail me

mdajunkie said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319751&page=18
im not sure if you read the nbd 8.0 thread lately but you asked this similar question and it was answered for ya if you still dont understand just mail me
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oh, sorry man totally missed your response
my only last question is, do I still copy over and run the cert and enablerapi cab's on the phone before I use shelltool, or just flash the rom without it?

fliplyricist1 said:
oh, sorry man totally missed your response
my only last question is, do I still copy over and run the cert and enablerapi cab's on the phone before I use shelltool, or just flash the rom without it?
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no you dont need to run those cabs again. all you have to do is just replace the nk.nbf file and run shell tool and thats it less than five minutes and your working with a new radio. Now if 2.69 dont satisfy you look in the cingular and t-mobile radio threads i have posted a zip file with a variety of radios collected from all over the wizard forums so you can test and try them all if you like. enjoy
edit: the file should be in the first or second page of each thread

i don't believe that you have to use the shelltool method in order to flash a radio rom. on my first rom flash, i followed the "Faria G4 Step by step installer with instructions" and did use shelltool for the OS part, but i used the regular RUU and flashed the 2.19.11 radio with no problems, without installed the enable rapi and cert cab.

thanks a bunch guys...im going to flash it now

are you going to go through the shelltool process? or install it simply with the RUU? i know it's a lot to ask you to put your device at risk but i'd just like to know if G4 Radio ROMs can be upgraded with RUU. i'm using 2.19.11 right now (with the radiofix) but i've heard 2.69 can give me better results. just would like to see if i can go the easier, RUU route.

Azimuth21 said:
are you going to go through the shelltool process? or install it simply with the RUU? i know it's a lot to ask you to put your device at risk but i'd just like to know if G4 Radio ROMs can be upgraded with RUU. i'm using 2.19.11 right now (with the radiofix) but i've heard 2.69 can give me better results. just would like to see if i can go the easier, RUU route.
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just a headsup...but a shelltool 2.69 flash messed up my nbd installation (would freeze at the nbd splash screen)
had to flash back to original factory cingular rom, and then reflashed the radio using ruu tools....and it worked perfectly.
now im just trying to reinstall nbd succesfully (always have a hard time with 8.0 for some reason)

[UPG]USPL for ELFIN - Only for the brave ones

Hi everybody,
I made up a new version of pof's USPL for ELFIN based on SPL 2.20.0000. You should be able to flash SPL in the third step now.
Why a new version? Because USPL v1 is only for ELF (64/128MB), but not for ELFIN (128/256MB). Flashing the old ELF SPL in step three on a new ELFIN used to brick your device.
EDIT:
You can find the working release in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1964159#post1964159
Thanks to everybody who was willing to test this!

Tempting, tempting.
I still haven't reproduced that weird blue screen i once had on my ELF.
But like i just wrote i got's me an ELF.
Good luck finding resourcefull Gamblers.
If there's no luck just start a Donation round for a Bricked Device Garantee

djvw said:
insane people
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We have a lot of those in this forum. People trying to flash first and then start reading .
Thanks for trying to get USPL working for the XL users!

ummmmm i just used to use the old uspl v1 and exit after step 3 than flash my rom, if you guys are really keen on testing this my new elfin will be here today or on monday and i will try it with my old one just to piss of rogers

shael said:
ummmmm i just used to use the old uspl v1 and exit after step 3 than flash my rom, if you guys are really keen on testing this my new elfin will be here today or on monday and i will try it with my old one just to piss of rogers
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This is the kind of brave people we need ;-) Please test it and tell us if it's working as soon as you can. Thank you in advance!

Uploaded new version, please redownload in first post.

Nobody has tested this yet?
I think that a Elfin dopod owner can test this without problems, because if don't work he can flash the complete (and signed) dopod rom from bootloader to restore the original SPL...
http://www.dopodasia.com/download/R...7.1B_4.1.13.51_03.07.90_BLUE_Ship_Reduced.exe

i have a elfin locked on bootloader screen....can change my spl with this??

what ??? the UPSL 1.0 is for Elf only and not Elfin ??? what i dont understand is what do you guys mean quit at step 3 ??? I flashed my Elfin with UPSL 1.0 with all steps for more than 6 times so far and nothing has happen so far ... my SPL is the 2.20.2000 one ...

@jamezco:
that´s wrong.
You flashed those roms containing the USPL (start.bat). They automaticly quit the 3rd step and go directly to the Rom Utility to flash the new ROM.
If you use POF´s USPL v1 and you don´t quit after step 3, the patched Bootloader will be flashed from your devices RAM to the ROM, and this wil brick your ELFin. If you have done this, your actual IPL or SPL would be 1.11.xxx...

Sorry: could someone explain me whether it is strictly needed to use the USPL unlock (the one are treated in this post) to flash the PDA?
I mean: the bootloader in the rom package is not able to do that?

we need some thing to unloack direct from boot loader and no need to active sync

as far as i know this is not possible, cause you can´t access bootloader files...in bootloader mode.
same on pc, you can´t delete or replace files, which are open/inuse by another program...

STRAFALCIONE said:
Sorry: could someone explain me whether it is strictly needed to use the USPL unlock (the one are treated in this post) to flash the PDA?
I mean: the bootloader in the rom package is not able to do that?
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The Rom Packages u can get here don´t contain a bootloader...and even if they would, the bootloader or the rom would have to match your model ID for flashing it to your device....so yes, it´s stricktly needed to CID unlock to flash Custom ROMs or ROMs with other vendor IDs.

Could someone help me? The USPL is needed for the flashing of ROM, or is it enough the bootloader of the ROM?

Sorry, I missed the answer of the post before
My eyes are crossing after 12 hours in front of the pc

Anyone tested already???

Come on guys,
somebody who can get official Roms from his provider should give this a try...

Hi all, not that i think myself insane but i have tried the USPL for my Elfin 128/256 Touch a few days ago . I have followed the steps and the screen turned white as mentioned by the installer after that it booted up fine again.
Everything seems to be working fine!
However, i have not seen any change to the device..

mb286 said:
Hi all, not that i think myself insane but i have tried the USPL for my Elfin 128/256 Touch a few days ago . I have followed the steps and the screen turned white as mentioned by the installer after that it booted up fine again.
Everything seems to be working fine!
However, i have not seen any change to the device..
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You don't see any change in the device.... but if USPL works you can flash ANY rom from bootloader directly executing RomUpdateUyility, you don`t need to boot windows, activesync and white screen (temporary SuperCID) to flash, try.....
Go to RUU directory and execute RomUpdateUtlity instead of RUN.bat and see if you can flash any rom without 3% (corrupted) error....

Any way to get WM6.1 Slim Edition v2.2 working on a G4?

Hi
I've recently got a wizard G4, and wasn't impressed with the default O2 OS that came with it. I quite liked the look of the slim edition v2.2 ROM (link below)
WM6.1 Slim Edition v2.2 - as fast as it gets
However after reading the G4 flashing tutorials, I was made aware of the fact that any ROM with IPL/SPL included is unsuitable for G4.
G4 users must be very careful with the ROM they select. The ROM has to be "G4 Safe", in other words contain only the OS, Radio, or Splash Screens. If you flash a ROM that contains IPL/SPL information, your device will become bricked(unless you flash the IPL/SPL using SoftSPL first --See Removing HardSPL tutorial below). If you're not sure if a given ROM is G4 safe, ask.
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The Slim Edition ROM has some bundled software, but I'm not sure if thats IPL/ISL. Could anyone tell me if its suitable for a G4, and if not, if theres any chance of modifying it to become suitable?
Thanks in advance!
PS. I know this probably doesn't deserve its' own thread, but I didn't really get a reply when I asked on the official thread. Also, sorry if I'm asking stuff thats been asked lots before, I am new to this, and have done my best to read up on this.

Worked fine on my G4 wizard...

on my G4 it worked fine too

Remove the IPL/SPL, if any.

Thanks a lot for the quick replies, I'll have a go at flashing it...

More Problems
I have got HardSPL (the warranty's run out) flashed, however, the actual WM6.1 ROM update tool returns error 300, saying it cannot update my PDA, a newer utility is required (I can't remember exact text).
Could this be to do with me using ActiveSync, which loses the connection when the phone restarts?
Uploaded are the Wizard Service info log and the error
Thanks for any help!

Finally, got it to work using the 2.5 version of RUU...

Flash - What Went Wrong?

I've always fancied flashing my Kaiser (V1615) with a new ROM, but was always nervous because I wasn't sure of the process and didn't want to risk bricking the phone as well as all the effort needed to get everything back on it I needed. Well, a few days ago my old Kaiser met the floor and an untimely end. So I decided to take the risk and put a new ROM on it and decided on the latest Dutty WM6.1 ROM.
I read all about flashing on here and made as much sense of it as I could. Thing is, I'm very technical in general, but not very familiar with Windows Mobile or flashing. I found there was lots to read, but it was all written with an assumed level of knowledge and understanding of terminology. As a result I found it quite hard to understand. I took the plunge anyway and started, but things didn't work out as expected and I didn't understand why.
I'm not trying to be critical of all the work a lot of people have put into the documentation that is available online, it's just that when I originally approached this with zero flashing experience I found it difficult and confusing to understand. What I really needed was a concise and basic introduction to flashing. I've now been through the process and after re-reading the documentation it makes a lot more sense.
I worked out you need to run something called HardSPL before you could flash a new ROM. I'm still not sure what HardSPL does apart from CID unlock the device, but what does CID unlock mean?
I ran HardSPL v1 and it started ok, but then I ended up with a white screen. At this point I already wished I hadn't started, but no going back now. Is it known why some phones white screen? Turns out it's a common problem, so followed the instructions to recover. All was well again, but still with the original ROM.
I thought I'd be brave and stuck with it and this time tried JumpSPL1.56-KAIS instead of HardSPL as recommended on one of the tutorials. This went better and I ended up with the Tri-Color screen. I plugged my USB cable in and USB showed on screen.
Next step I thought was to flash a ROM onto the device. I ran the Dutty updater on my PC and all started ok, but when the update got to 18% I received a communication error. I tried to recover using the updater, but the same thing happened. At this point the phone wouldn't boot, so I was more than a little worried and wishing I hadn't started!
Found something that described several options for recovering from this problem. I decided to try and flash the device back to the original ROM from Vodafone. When I eventually found that ROM I ran JumpSPL again, got to the Tri-Color screen and ran the updater. This time the update completed successfully and the phone rebooted and was all working again.
I decided to leave the device as it was and started customising it myself. I'd still love to put a cooked ROM on there, especially if it helps with performance, but after the experience above I'm not very confident.
Can anyone tell me where or what went wrong? I'm going to get my old Kaiser repaired and want to try again on that phone.

My flashing routene (not ideal but it works for me)
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
Sam

Wow, I need a cuppa now
I'll go through 1 at a time... (and Sam has answered some questions already)
-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave

Thanks for the advice, but this is what I normally encounter when I read something on here, which is advice which no doubt makes perfect sense to the author or others experienced in flashing, but usually raises more questions than it answers in my head.
For example;
1) run the first part of the Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer
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What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
2) after device reboots, hold camera button and restart to check SPL
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Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
3) Flash rom/radio of choice
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So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
4) Follow HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW 's second guide "If you have problems with the above process, try this:" and flash my 3.XX SPL of choice.
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I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?

BTW, not trying to moan about everything, just posting my experiences to find out where I went wrong, but also highlight some issues hopefully other flashing newbies can relate to and authors of tutorials can draw some useful feedback from.

Only one question, do I need to CID Unlock before using Jump and HardSpl or, the Hardspl does the Supercid ?
I'm not referring about SIM since I don't care, for now
With WM6.1 - Oficiall HTC ROM
Thanks

Thanks for that one dave, on reflection i kinda missed the whole point of the thread, and as for the majority of the stuff you posted i didnt undertand that to begin with.
Also, DaveTME, if you are wanting to flash a custom rom to youre kaiser. from my experiance and from the number of times ive seen this happen. i advise against asking for reccomendations(sp?) (not saying you will but its worth saying) try a few roms out and decide from there.
Also another thing to note. if you flash to WM6.1 remember to use a 3.xx spl otherwise you'll encounter a few problems with youre device.
Sam
What do you mean by the "first part"? The thread you've linked to doesnt really explain what I'm downloading and doing.
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download the Kaiser unlocker and run the first stage of it, the program is in the linked thread.
Ok. I get this assuming you mean the device will reboot automatically and I restart it to check the SPL version that gets shown on the boot screen, but why do I need to do this?
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No, after the device reboots, youre given youre Rom, Protocol and Radio. if you hold the camera button and reset you'll get youre SPL displayed, youre looking for 1.01 olinex to be shown
So at this point I can simply plug my device into my PC and run the ROM updater I've downloaded. Working out what rom/radio version to download is a minefield in its own right.
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1) Yes, just run the RUU with youre chosen rom and thats it
2) its not a minefield, just make a decision on what rom you like and flash it. theres nothing to stop you flashing another one.
I thought HardSPL needed to be run before I flashed? Also, why the different versions? Which one do I choose?
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The 1.01 SPL will allow you to flash a cutom rom. following that you need a 3.xx SPL as they are designed for windows mobile 6.1. as for yure decision. i use 3.29, yet other users have had better sucess with 3.56. Most rom chefs will say which SPL they reccomend anyway with their rom.

-CID unlock means that when the phone is loading a new device into the ROM the Carrier ID check is removed, each Mobile phone carrier has a different CID in thier OS ROMs. Unlocked means you can flash a OS ROM from any carrier or a cooked OS ROM from this site.
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Great. Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense now
-The Jump SPL should only be used for replacing the SPL. Do not flash anything other than SPL's when at the Jump SPL (or SSPL). OS and Radio ROMs should be flashed from either in Windows Or By Manually Entering the Bootloaders. More info on SPL's is here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
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Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
-Have a look at flashing from SD Card to avoid communication problems, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
-The most clear instructions can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Thanks, will have a read

DaveTME said:
Ok. I think you mean that the SPL is a component on the device? What is the difference between HardSPL and JumpSPL?
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Read the "SPL Questions" Wiki Page, it is all there and fairly clear.
Ta
Dave

RUU for HTC Panther ??

Greetings,
Is there any RUU program for HTC Panther?? Or Treo FW upgrade utility??
Thanks!

You have 333 posts, and you didn't think to look at the posts below yours asking about this...
geez

lcohen999 said:
You have 333 posts, and you didn't think to look at the posts below yours asking about this...
geez
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I am never surprised by the smugness on this site. He is obviously from a different country and may not be able decipher through lots of English posts quickly...
tramuyo, keep checking back...there are a few posts on PPC Geeks with some activity on the CDMA verson of the Panther. Hopefully we'll be having fun with some new ROM's soon!
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=66532

Obviously if he has 333 posts on this site, then he does know a little english.
Also, he knows to ask for a RUU for a custom ROM.
I would BET that he knows what HardSPL is as well, but like most people, simply too lazy to look

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Obviously if he has 333 posts on this site, then he does know a little english.
Also, he knows to ask for a RUU for a custom ROM.
I would BET that he knows what HardSPL is as well, but like most people, simply too lazy to look
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Oh, you free lance moderators and your worthwhile posts that contribute to the forums so much. The best way to build your post count is to respond with "search before asking!" in every new thread.
Anyway, yeah, a hardSPL is useless if we don't have an RUU. It's supposedly confirmed (according to a Sprint employee... who knows) that WM 6.5 WILL come to this device, so if/when that happens, we've got our RUU.

Good to hear. Thanks for the info to0

to0 said:
Oh, you free lance moderators and your worthwhile posts that contribute to the forums so much. The best way to build your post count is to respond with "search before asking!" in every new thread.
Anyway, yeah, a hardSPL is useless if we don't have an RUU. It's supposedly confirmed (according to a Sprint employee... who knows) that WM 6.5 WILL come to this device, so if/when that happens, we've got our RUU.
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thanks..
@ everyone: I need a RUU bcoz I want to flash some patched radio to try some things, thats all. I have SPL MFG and other stuff

here is the RUU that you can extract out of the 1.04 update from sprint.

I think we have to make things a bit clearer:
1) You CAN flash your device with any localized rom WITHOUT having to hard-spl it (ROM must be signed). HardSPL is only needed to upgrade the radio part (and to block dangerous IPL/SPL upgrades too, obviously) and flashing unsigned cooked roms.
2) You prolly CAN flash your device without CustomRUU. Generally speaking all devices made by HTC can be flashed from the SD simply putting a .nbh file with the proper name for the device in the root dir of the SD expansion card. Then, pushing a combination of buttons, you can start the flash process.
For the HTC Panther (the codename of the TP), we can only guess what name we have to use (PANTimg.nbh and TPimg.nbh could be good candidates). Then we have to guess the right button combo. Hard? Uneasy? Let's try...

Topogigi said:
I think we have to make things a bit clearer:
1) You CAN flash your device with any localized rom WITHOUT having to hard-spl it (ROM must be signed). HardSPL is only needed to upgrade the radio part (and to block dangerous IPL/SPL upgrades too, obviously) and flashing unsigned cooked roms.
2) You prolly CAN flash your device without CustomRUU. Generally speaking all devices made by HTC can be flashed from the SD simply putting a .nbh file with the proper name for the device in the root dir of the SD expansion card. Then, pushing a combination of buttons, you can start the flash process.
For the HTC Panther (the codename of the TP), we can only guess what name we have to use (PANTimg.nbh and TPimg.nbh could be good candidates). Then we have to guess the right button combo. Hard? Uneasy? Let's try...
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sorry if this sounds stupid but r u saying i can make custom rom and flash it on a treo pro with out hard spl as long as im not upgrading the radio or upgrading the spl??? sorry if this is stupid i have a htc fuze and im helping out a friend and i don't want to steer him the wrong way or brick his device

We flashed cooked roms long before HardSPL. I flashed a custom rom on a HTC Wizard when HardSPL was still in Olipro's dreams....

Topogigi said:
We flashed cooked roms long before HardSPL. I flashed a custom rom on a HTC Wizard when HardSPL was still in Olipro's dreams....
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ok i'll byte, where can i find this softspl contraption. thanks for the response