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Ok, so I have like 5 or so months left before I qualify for upgrade pricing at ATT. Money really isnt as much of an issue as other issues, such as network speed, and device features.
so my questions are:
1) My understanding is that ATT 3G is superior to Sprint's EVDO in terms of speed, assuming the same touch pro device is used. True?
2) I know the device speccs aren't really out yet, but in terms of rumors, I've heard that Verizon will criple their version. Is there any other providers out there doing the same thing?
I was going to get the Europe/Asia versions but since there isn't a way to run it off of the 3G networks here yet, and may never have a way, I was thinking of getting sprint next month, or just plain waiting out for ATT or T-Mobile.
What do you guys think? (sorry if this had been discussed before)
AT&T does not have faster speeds, it says it can do 600 to 1400 kbps down / 500 to 800 kbps upload.
I have never gotten more than 1mbps on AT&T download, i have gotten some pretty good upload though, seemed to average around the mid 700 range.
Sprint, now this depends. Sprint seems to have a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. They have EVDO and EVDO RevA. I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
That was my average test on speedtest.net
In EVDO areas where they do not have RevA I have gotten about 1.2mbps download and about 500 kbps upload average, which is worse than AT&T.
Another thing to consider is the data plan price.
Sprint has all you can data plan for $15 per month, vs AT&T's 40? 60? I can't remember but it was terrible!
Lots of people complain about sprint in general but I have been very pleased and I do quite a bit of buisness with them. I recommend them.
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AT&T does not have faster speeds, it says it can do 600 to 1400 kbps down / 500 to 800 kbps upload.
I have never gotten more than 1mbps on AT&T download, i have gotten some pretty good upload though, seemed to average around the mid 700 range.
Sprint, now this depends. Sprint seems to have a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. They have EVDO and EVDO RevA. I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
That was my average test on speedtest.net
In EVDO areas where they do not have RevA I have gotten about 1.2mbps download and about 500 kbps upload average, which is worse than AT&T.
Another thing to consider is the data plan price.
Sprint has all you can data plan for $15 per month, vs AT&T's 40? 60? I can't remember but it was terrible!
Lots of people complain about sprint in general but I have been very pleased and I do quite a bit of buisness with them. I recommend them.
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Thanks for your input. Yeah I'm really leaning towards sprint because of it's "Simply Everything" plan which is $99 for unlimited talk/data. All other networks seem to have unlimited talk for $99 but it doesn't seem to include data.
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AT&T does not have faster speeds, it says it can do 600 to 1400 kbps down / 500 to 800 kbps upload.
I have never gotten more than 1mbps on AT&T download, i have gotten some pretty good upload though, seemed to average around the mid 700 range.
Sprint, now this depends. Sprint seems to have a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. They have EVDO and EVDO RevA. I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
That was my average test on speedtest.net
In EVDO areas where they do not have RevA I have gotten about 1.2mbps download and about 500 kbps upload average, which is worse than AT&T.
Another thing to consider is the data plan price.
Sprint has all you can data plan for $15 per month, vs AT&T's 40? 60? I can't remember but it was terrible!
Lots of people complain about sprint in general but I have been very pleased and I do quite a bit of buisness with them. I recommend them.
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Where is this "all you can data plan" from Sprint? I am betting they do not offer it for plan changes or new subs anymore.
They sure do, its called 'sprint powervision' or just the 'Data Plan'
Its $15 a month. The only stipulation is that you cannot use your phone as a modem (PAM) without getting charged extra. Although there are plenty of ways around that.
pam not on the everything or the talk/message/data share plan but there should be a workaround on the internet sharing i think u might have to go on ##debug# to do it jus have ur msl ready lol
wait until att has the hsdpa by the end of the year of course only some markets but then its definetly fastest
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I visit a city that has RevA frequently and I have gotten 2.9mbps download and 1.5mbps upload.
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That must be the city of the holy grail, the highest RevA can go to is 3.1 down/1.8 up... So you pretty much have the advertised speeds maxed out, which I've never seen.
My thoughts...
I was an AT&T (previously Cingular, previously T-Mobile) customer for quite a while. I have used GSM almost exclusively for 8 years. I left for CDMA at Sprint entirely because of internet speed. AT&T's 3G coverage is pretty lousy -- at least in the South East where I live. I can get 3G pretty much only in major cities. EVDO is available throughout the entire state of NC (where I live) -- even in rural areas, believe it or not. EVDO Rev A is spottier, but EVDO is fast enough for me.
The throughput is sufficient to sync exchange, play internet radio, browse the web, and download files at the same time. I haven't done speed tests to see exactly what the throughput is, but it "feels" as good as my home DSL service.
Additionally, Sprint's fallback internet, the "1X" service is much faster than AT&T's fallback service, Edge (or worse, GPRS). With 1X, I can still listen to internet radio and browse the web effectively (but not at the same time). With Edge, you can't -- it will skip like crazy. Not to mention that loading web sites and downloading anything takes for-ev-er!
Cost is another consideration. Although it is not published on their website, my data plan is only $15/mo for unlimited data. It does not include Sprint Music, Sprint TV, Sprint Navigation, or other value-added services like the $30 plan. It's not on their website. You have to call and request the "Sprint PowerVision Basic" plan. The basic plan is mainly for more basic phones, but if you have no interest in the value-added features and just want internet, you can get it on fancier phones as well.
As far as I know, AT&T still only has one unlimited data plan and it's approximately $30/mo.
Until AT&T's 3G service has a wider footprint, I would go with Sprint for data-heavy phone use. Verizon uses the same network as Sprint, but their data plan is $40/mo (around here at least), so they were out of the question for me.
My Wife has AT&T 3G, I have Sprint EVDO Rev A. We often between Texas and Florida. My Sprint service wins hands down. Much better coverage and MUCH faster speed. Two weekends ago we watched an entire football game on my mogul from the back of a car between Ft Laud and Key West with not one glitch. I was streaming the live feed from a server in Texas using Orb. We often do the same between Dallas and Houston. Every time we've tried using her phone the AT&T service can't keep up.
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Ok, so I have like 5 or so months left before I qualify for upgrade pricing at ATT. Money really isnt as much of an issue as other issues, such as network speed, and device features.
so my questions are:
1) My understanding is that ATT 3G is superior to Sprint's EVDO in terms of speed, assuming the same touch pro device is used. True?
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That is completely FALSE .... the GSM 3g in the US SUCKS ... EVDO is far better ..
Verizon is the fastest ..
Sprint is 2nd. .
at and Tmobile are far slower... and not as widespread..
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My Wife has AT&T 3G, I have Sprint EVDO Rev A. We often between Texas and Florida. My Sprint service wins hands down. Much better coverage and MUCH faster speed. Two weekends ago we watched an entire football game on my mogul from the back of a car between Ft Laud and Key West with not one glitch. I was streaming the live feed from a server in Texas using Orb. We often do the same between Dallas and Houston. Every time we've tried using her phone the AT&T service can't keep up.
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I know people that stream Orb on AT&T, and I've used Slingboxes across the continent on AT&T... I think it's more likely that you have a better phone for playing video than what she has. I'm not doubting Sprint's EVDO is faster, but AT&T's network can surely "keep up" with a service like Orb.
For me, Sprint was faster than even Verizon
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For me, Sprint was faster than even Verizon
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Well, it all depends on location. As I've said many times before, I can't even make a phone call from my house with Sprint or Verizon, so if you could even get data to transfer it would be snail slow. Yet I get around 500kb/s from AT&T in the same area... Go figure.
I have the parrothd v1.6 adhoc wifi tether and it's running sweet with Vista. Just one question; I tried to download a little torrent while connected and utorrent can't even connect. Does anybody know if it's t-mobile (UK) blocking my torrent traffic or maybe a product of the tether method?
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i'm not sure but wouldn't you have to forward some ports G1 side?
also, i doubt t-mobile will loook kindly on torrent downloading.
Yah not too sure about running torrents off your phone. Would be nice though.
There are a couple of similar options. Utorrent does have a webUI you can configure.
http://www.utorrent.com/webui-guide.php
I'm sure someone could optimize the UI for mobile via some scripting. I think I saw a greesemonkey clone on the market.
Did a little searching and found this miniUI someone made.
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=47167
Uh, you do realize that cell phone towers aren't designed to be streaming dozens or hundreds of megabytes of data from one phone non-stop, right?
Being able to send the odd bit of low-volume traffic over a teather could come in handy in some situations. If people start using that ability to transfer hundreds of megabytes of whatever then we're going to start seeing all kinds of annoying countermeasures. Even if you're only downloading a 3MB MP3 you could end up uploading far more than that if you seed.
Please don't be the android user who gets the 3G internet closed off to everything but port 80. If you want to do a little more than browse the web I'm sure T-mobile will look the other way, but if you start impacting the network then that neighborly trust will go out the window.
It really isn't fair to expect your carrier to deliver that kind of bandwidth over their network. While 3G could potentially deliver meaningful bittorrent to ONE phone in a cell it can't do that and allow the casual web browsers to browse the web. I'm sure the TOS has to have something in it to prohibit this kind of behavior.
If you want to download a linux distro or something do it over WiFi via a landline.
Whats the difference between that and running a 3g broadband card form a carrier....
I have used a verizon card to download tons of stuff since I am not expected to make phone calls with it all i can do is download....almost all day long...and cell towers can handle it fine.
Cell towers don't just handle call anymore you know...data is no problem for them.
Tether away!!!
Justanothercrowd makes a good arguement; there are tons of people downloading torrent files over the 3G network here without having any impact on other users. I figure utorrent would work on a 3G card with my G1 sim in it anyway.
I spoke to t-mobile about data limits and they told me that they just limit your bandwidth if you repeatedly run over 5 gig a month.
I'm not sure what you guys mean about the webUI? Could you explain how that would help?
It could just be a case of forwarding ports in the Ip table that is used by the tether; Meltus is usually right about these things; I will have a go and post results here.
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Justanothercrowd makes a good arguement; there are tons of people downloading torrent files over the 3G network here without having any impact on other users. I figure utorrent would work on a 3G card with my G1 sim in it anyway.
I spoke to t-mobile about data limits and they told me that they just limit your bandwidth if you repeatedly run over 5 gig a month.
I'm not sure what you guys mean about the webUI? Could you explain how that would help?
It could just be a case of forwarding ports in the Ip table that is used by the tether; Meltus is usually right about these things; I will have a go and post results here.
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The webUI allows you to download a torrent to your pc. You could then transfer the file to your G1 via ftp.
Hmmm, I used tether for torrents for 4 straight days when my regular internet was down. I tried to max out all the transfer rates, in the beginning I used to get about 100-110kbps down and 40kbps up. But after the 1st day, the next three days i just for 50kbps down and when it used to be at 50kbps I could not browse web smoothly. I dont know why the rates went down by 50%, I did not change any settings. Maybe port forwarding and NAT functionality in the tether app might help.
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Hmmm, I used tether for torrents for 4 straight days when my regular internet was down. I tried to max out all the transfer rates, in the beginning I used to get about 100-110kbps down and 40kbps up. But after the 1st day, the next three days i just for 50kbps down and when it used to be at 50kbps I could not browse web smoothly. I dont know why the rates went down by 50%, I did not change any settings. Maybe port forwarding and NAT functionality in the tether app might help.
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perhaps t-mobile realised what you were doing, or you downloaded too much and they limited your bandwith temporarily
could be the reason but im not sure if they do it instantly or they apply it next month? someone will probably know
more complicated than I expected!
Now I see what you mean about the web interface thanks; it is an option but I don't really want the files on my phone and they would not be much use on my laptop if it were connected to a landline somewhere.
I had a look at configureing the ports but it's a fair bit more complicated than I expected!
Should I be adding a torrent classifier between tiwlan lines 170 and 180 or can I just forward a port in dnsmasq.conf?
Thanks for your help guys, Alex
I have tried both tiwlan and dnsmasq now but I still can't get a connection; has anybody else managed to get torrents running over thsi tether?
Alex
Don't use your phone to torrent, you are asking for trouble. Repeated high bandwidth use every month will get you problems with TMobile.
I know they have those cards for the internet, but the data plans with those cards cost a lot more for a reason, they expect to get a lot more traffic. Currently verizon and at&t charge more for tethering, even if you are already paying for a data plan, tmobile does not. Do not make tmobile start charging.
Thanks for your insight but there are a few issues with your argument.
Who says torrents have to be high bandwidth? All the clients that I have used provide the option to set bandwidth limits.
What's the difference between streaming youtube videos off the net and downloading the video in a torrent? Streaming video is not as well compressed as that of your average torrent so in effect it would use less bandwidth than it would to stream it at similar quality. Then I can fix my ratios when I have wifi access.
Tmobile (uk) charge extra for their "unlimited" data plan on top of what they charge for calls and sms.
If you took the time to read the thread thus far you would see that I have spoken to tmobile on the subject of effective data limits.
Most uk mobile networks (O2 and Orange last time I checked) block tethered data usage for pay as you go customers but they allow tethered data usage for all contract customers.
Could you just help me out rather than trying to convince me that what I'm doing is immoral?
Alex
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I know they have those cards for the internet, but the data plans with those cards cost a lot more for a reason, they expect to get a lot more traffic. Currently verizon and at&t charge more for tethering, even if you are already paying for a data plan, tmobile does not. Do not make tmobile start charging.
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I _WISH_ T-Mobile had an upcharge for an unlimited data plan. I have T-Mobile AND AT&T (and Verizon!) and use my AT&T unlimited tethering plan for my 3G access on the road (and from home). Sometimes I use AT&T and Verizon simultaneously through my Cradlepoint (works great as a fail-safe backup). If I could switch to T-Mobile (gets better signal in about 40% of locations I'm in daily), I'd be in heaven. I don't mind paying a LOT more for wireless 3G if it's unlimited.
Honestly, I've NEVER seen any issues with 3G downloading/torrenting, and I'm all over the country all the time. Voice calls seem to get priority, but the 3G bandwidth is QOS'd well enough. During busy phone-hours, my speed drops fairly significantly, but when I use it most (off-hours), I have no problem.
T-Mobile will probably offer an unlimited tethering plan (they have to), and I'd jump on it in 10 seconds flat.
BTW, when I did tether my G1, I didn't have any problems using uTorrent. Speeds were comparable to AT&T, and I don't recall having to make any changes. What I do prefer about AT&T is that it seems to give me a real IP versus some NAT-shared IP. Not sure about T-Mobile's IP configuration, but I assume we're all on some internal NAT shared pool before we jump onto the web.
Why you shoudn't torrent over 3g.
Torrents open a host of tcp connections, unlike a download that only needs 1. This really bogs down yor cell block. This is the key. Each cell block has finite use of bandwith. If you hog all the bandwith consitently or have to many tcp connections open to long t-mobile has no choice but to limit you. You are degrading the expereince of others in that cell block. Maybe in the future the technical limitations will be gone like in wimax.
I know T-Mobile US has the right to kick you off the network if they can see you are running torrents. While you don't need any ports forwarded to download off a torrent tracker, you do need it for the other services (DHT)
Honestly you shouldn't be running torrents period, some users will say they do it and they are the reason networks put limits. If you continue to abuse T-Mobile they will soon put a limit too.
On top of that torrents are more destructive on the network than downloading by any other method because of what is actually going on. Torrents work both ways, download and upload at the same time, This means that if you download normally at 110 and upload normally at 50 that you will not get those speeds on torrents. The way bandwidth works is that you can't do both at the same time. It is a mixture of the 2, 20% download means 80% upload in the simpliest of terms.
In either case if you choose to rape T-Mobiles networks I hope they rape your wallet.
I'd be happy with a Torrent client for WiFi only.. too erratic on 3G
I have two t-mobile UK contracts, one for data and one for my G1. I've run torrents on the data contract without issue.
The argument that many tcp connections are opened by bittorrent clients seems fallacious. The cost of opening a tcp connection is minimal especially without DNS.
The argument that torrents rape t-mobiles network also seems to be erroneous. t-mobile are interested in the amount of bandwidth you use (both up and down) and of major importance is the bandwidth between you and the cell transmitter as this is the highest cost portion of the journey and so signal strength plays a part in reducing retransmission.
The G1 in the UK comes with the equivalent of web and walk plus, which has a 3G data limit per month. I can quite imagine that t-mobile won't contact you until you exceed 5G as mentioned earlier but 3G is the official limit and it seems sensible to work with that.
The thing I find most annoying about the t-mobile net connection in the UK is the use of image compression by default and with no android client to turn this off you have to refresh pages all the time to get them in decent quality.
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I have two t-mobile UK contracts, one for data and one for my G1. I've run torrents on the data contract without issue.
The argument that many tcp connections are opened by bittorrent clients seems fallacious. The cost of opening a tcp connection is minimal especially without DNS.
The argument that torrents rape t-mobiles network also seems to be erroneous. t-mobile are interested in the amount of bandwidth you use (both up and down) and of major importance is the bandwidth between you and the cell transmitter as this is the highest cost portion of the journey and so signal strength plays a part in reducing retransmission.
The G1 in the UK comes with the equivalent of web and walk plus, which has a 3G data limit per month. I can quite imagine that t-mobile won't contact you until you exceed 5G as mentioned earlier but 3G is the official limit and it seems sensible to work with that.
The thing I find most annoying about the t-mobile net connection in the UK is the use of image compression by default and with no android client to turn this off you have to refresh pages all the time to get them in decent quality.
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I was speaking purely about T-Mobile US
Taken during the peak hours in NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC10FMD8kg&hd=1
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Taken during the peak hours in NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC10FMD8kg&hd=1
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Those are FANTASTIC results, I'm not getting anything close to that on the 4G in Ohio
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Taken during the peak hours in NYC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVC10FMD8kg&hd=1
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Get a license for Windows 7 you bum! LOL
Those are awesome btw. I am on 3g in NC, but I pull 3 mbps all day, it's faster than my home broadband, but still not 40+ mbps.
IISiDeK1CKII said:
Get a license for Windows 7 you bum! LOL
Those are awesome btw. I am on 3g in NC, but I pull 3 mbps all day, it's faster than my home broadband, but still not 40+ mbps.
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Lol it was suppose to be Enterprise edition without a license needed
holy crap, i want to hook that up to my xbox
God I hope I get those speeds when 4G comes to Sioux falls. Anyone know if Verizon buys there bandwidth from local providers. I can only hope because midcontinent has some huge pipes!
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I've taken a few videos during off peak hours. Hitting over 52mbps and about 6MB/s sustained when downloading a well seeded private torrent. Will post them in the same channel soon.
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God I hope I get those speeds when 4G comes to Sioux falls. Anyone know if Verizon buys there bandwidth from local providers. I can only hope because midcontinent has some huge pipes!
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I'm in Rapid City, West River, we don't get LTE till next year, but MidCo is pretty awesome.
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I'm in Rapid City, West River, we don't get LTE till next year, but MidCo is pretty awesome.
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how did you come to find out when you were getting 4G
Sioux city here, been told expect between August and December.
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in Houston... and i also get 40+ down and 5+ up
the speed is great!
Just read the Sprint's complaint thats basically trying to negate LTE's speed supremacy at the moment. It's kind of sad and delusional.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/04/04/sprin...eed-tests-pitting-verizons-lte-against-wimax/
Is the USB tether free? If so how did you get it working? I've been having trouble.
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Is the USB tether free? If so how did you get it working? I've been having trouble.
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You simply plug in your phone to a Windows box and on your phone choose "Internet Connection Mode".
The service is free, but it's still unclear to me if it will stop being free after may 15th. I know that WiFi hotspot feature will be extra but I'm not sure about the USB tether.
Really i thought the mobile wireless hotspot was the only thing free for a few months? If memory serves me correctly doing what you just did by enabling "Internet Connection Mode"you are gonna get some big charges and I wanna say that feature has a 2gig limit and they will rape you on anything over that. Wanna say it falls under an actual data plan not even a smartphone data plan=giant ripoff.
Please correct me if I am wrong I just wanted to give you a heads up before you get a nasty bill if you are going buck wild tethering it up.
For Smartphones & Feature Phones
Mobile Broadband Connect & 3G Mobile Hotspots
Monthly Access Fee Monthly Data Allowance Per-GB Rate After Allowance
$20 2 GB $20
Only available with $29.99 or higher data package.
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I am almost certain this is what that falls under or at least used to unless they changed things around.
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Really i thought the mobile wireless hotspot was the only thing free for a few months? If memory serves me correctly doing what you just did by enabling "Internet Connection Mode"you are gonna get some big charges and I wanna say that feature has a 2gig limit and they will rape you on anything over that. Wanna say it falls under an actual data plan not even a smartphone data plan=giant ripoff.
Please correct me if I am wrong I just wanted to give you a heads up before you get a nasty bill if you are going buck wild tethering it up.
For Smartphones & Feature Phones
Mobile Broadband Connect & 3G Mobile Hotspots
Monthly Access Fee Monthly Data Allowance Per-GB Rate After Allowance
$20 2 GB $20
Only available with $29.99 or higher data package.
Taken from http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/mobilebroadband/?page=plans
I am almost certain this is what that falls under or at least used to unless they changed things around.
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Can anyone verify this? I'm logging into my vzw daily, and I'm only seeing data used under unlimited data plan... Nothing that indicates out of the ordinary usage charges.
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Can anyone verify this? I'm logging into my vzw daily, and I'm only seeing data used under unlimited data plan... Nothing that indicates out of the ordinary usage charges.
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It doesn't matter, just use PDA net, wifi tether or any of the free alternatives on your unlimited data.
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It doesn't matter, just use PDA net, wifi tether or any of the free alternatives on your unlimited data.
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I was going to use PDA net after may 15th. ICM performs so much better though. I'm really curious to see if they'll try to charge me.
in the notificatiion bar i don't see a network speed, it's neither 4g lte or 3g. what gives???
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in the notificatiion bar i don't see a network speed, it's neither 4g lte or 3g. what gives???
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When you connect your Bolt using USB and chose Internet Connection Mode, your phone's data connection is totally killed and basically transferred to your PC. All you see is a little USB logo top left.
I just switch to simple mobile today and got the $40 unlimited plan. Thought it was a great deal to save some $$$ every month. The Plan clearly mentions that users can get up to 3G speed depending on location and device. My location does have 3G network and the G2X supports the 3G bands as well. But still the speed gets capped at around 119KB/s when using the 3G/4G network. The speed here is actually slower than the 2G. I changed the settings and forced 2G and ran the speedtest again. Using edge i managed to get around 150Kb/s surprisingly.
This is not at all the plan as advertised. i think i will never get that up to 3G speed. Switching to straight talk does not help too as the G2X doesnt have the ATT 3G bands. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Same problem
I'm running EaglesBlood GB on my phone. When I use simple mobile i get 120kbps upstream and about the same downstream. I know its not the area since i drive a lot and tried it in three different cities. Now my wife has a 30 plan with tmobile. The one 1500min or text and 30 mb data. When i put her sim in my phone i get 3700 kbps downstream and 1250 upstream. I spent a while with SM chat people and so I know its not in APN settings. There has to be something else to be changed on the phone to get 3g. Would be nice if someone new what it is.
Simple actually caps your connection speed at 120kbps which is quoted as upto 3G speed.. Simple is mono of Tom and offer lot cheaper service.. They offer ****ty internet for $40 plan but if you go with $60 plan it's faster.
So now that a substantial amount of people are on Verizon's LTE network, are people's data speeds slowing down? In August, when I got my Charge, I was getting between 15mbps to 20mbps (speedtest.net) on LTE in the Madison, WI and Milwaukee, WI areas. I just ran a few tests today and got speeds between 5mbps and 7mbps. I know this barely affects day-to-day usage (unless you download large files and torrent like I do), but I am curious as to everybody else's speeds.
Mine have slowed down slightly, but not significantly. I do notice that I will get vastly different speed-test results based on what server I'm connecting too.
my 3g plummeted to the ground my 4g whitch is 15 miles north of me i am in utah btw is down roughly between 12-14 megs a few days i saw about 16-18 but not a huge difference for me but the 3g is killing me my sprint 3g was faster whitch i thought would not be the case...
What are you doing torrenting on LTE? Where's your home Internet connection?
I use my LTE connection but I barely use 3 GB a month. Most of the time I'm under 2 GBs.
Damn... no wonder why Verizon implemented data usage caps and gone away from Unlimited Data.
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What are you doing torrenting on LTE? Where's your home Internet connection?
I use my LTE connection but I barely use 3 GB a month. Most of the time I'm under 2 GBs.
Damn... no wonder why Verizon implemented data usage caps and gone away from Unlimited Data.
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I live in a college dorm where if you are caught doing something illegal on the internet they take away all your computer access and ability to use the schools wifi across campus. I would rather not take that risk.
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I'm seeing slowdowns, but they aren't consistent. Never below 5Mbps, but normally, I'm still 12-15.
How about not doing anything illegal?
You know that the MPAA/RIAA are on their witch hunts. It's not if, but when, they will find you and believe you me, they will find you and you better have your lawyer ready.
NetFlix? Amazon.com Music Store? Android Market? All of which allows you to consume your media in a legal way without the constant threat of a DMCA notice.
Thanks a lot, you ruined it for the rest of us who liked Unlimited Data from Verizon. Now, because of people like you we have to endure capped data plans and the ever possible chance that they will take it away from even those who have the Unlimited Data plan. Thanks a lot, at least I now know the kind of people to blame for this crap.
Psst: There are legal uses for bittorrent.
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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JihadSquad said:
I live in a college dorm where if you are caught doing something illegal on the internet they take away all your computer access and ability to use the schools wifi across campus. I would rather not take that risk.
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If you don't want to take the risk then don't do it at all.
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Yes, LTE has slowed down. But, it's still really fast, faster than all other carriers where I am.
terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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Please don't open this particular can of worms again.
terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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Verizon is nothing but a company. That company is free to do whatever it thinks will result in the most profit. Now what do you think will make more money, charging customers who are with Verizon because they already have the best service more, or spending money on new towers to attract a few customers in that area?
If Verizon customers want to tell them to stop jacking up the prices, they do it with their money (like what happened to netflix).
Also, i did not ask for advice; i was just curious as to others' experience. If you want to go cry about unlimited data, go to that "100+gb /month" thread or get unlimited data as per foreversupra's thread.
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My data has gotten substantially slower...I now average about 3mbps down and 2.5 up....far cry from the 25 down I got in the summer
terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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I'd like to fly to Japan for $99 but it's not going to happen.
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In Memphis I get download speeds anywhere from 15-40 Mbps, and upload speeds anywhere from 4-8 Mbps. My best speed test so far was on Monday with 40.09Mbps Down and 8.1Mbps Up.
I just got on the Verizon network about five days ago, and I'm astounded at the speeds I get on 4g LTE.
the only thing that matches my LTE speeds is my FiOS wifi but even when used side by side the LTE usually smokes wifi... I'm pleased with the speeds and the fact that its unlimited and I'm not trying to screw myself or others out of it so I keep my data usage pretty conservative
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I am still happily seeing around 40 down 20 up in San Jose, CA. It's so fast that I want to get faster SD card to match that.
Since we're discussing torrents, has anyone noticed their upload speed being significantly slower than what you can get in a speedtest? As in if you're uploading a torrent at 3 AM, you might get 100 kBytes/sec, but on speedtest.net you might get 8 megabits/sec.
Does anyone know what would cause that?
ambrar12 said:
Since we're discussing torrents, has anyone noticed their upload speed being significantly slower than what you can get in a speedtest? As in if you're uploading a torrent at 3 AM, you might get 100 kBytes/sec, but on speedtest.net you might get 8 megabits/sec.
Does anyone know what would cause that?
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What would you need to upload in the first place?
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