Right now i have Faria's "the real thing", is there a better ROM out there right now, like his new kitchen ROM? I am still new to the whole flashing thing and "the real thing" was my first time flashing a ROM and all, so i prefer to not switch unless its a really good change. Plus the kitchen ROM seems kinda confusing to do. So are there any suggestions about a better ROM for my SIM and CID unlocked G3 T-Mobile US Wizard?
PS: sorry its not a poll, to lazy to do it
xplore 2.0
Isn't that still a beta, so wouldnt it have a lot of problems? I also would like to know if by changing WM6 ROM would i have to reinstall of my software and stuff?
Hold on! How could you have flashed before and not know the answer to that question yourself? Yes, it will wipe all your data and flash your phone to whatever the cooker made it to be.
Make sure you know what you're doing, do a little more reading first.
I knew it would delete it, but i thought that might just be WM5 to WM6 and if you just change WM6 to WM6 it wouldnt do it, but thanks for confirmation. Do u have a reccomendation for another ROM or should i just stick with "the real thing"?
Hey I just switched from farias real rom to xplore 1.1 and I have to say, I am been very pleased with the switch, and even more excited about xplore 2.0.
If you really don't want to flash your phone too many times in the future, I would hold out for xplore 2.0 to come out (hopefully should be out by the end of the week) and flash that.
For keeping your software and information, of course you can use activesync to get some of your programs back up, farias rom I believe came with PIM Backup (if not get it), which allows you to restore your text messages and call logs and such.
One thing to note... Xplore is alot clean rom than farias. By that I mean there isn't alot of extra stuff installed on it from start. 2.0 will definitely be designed that way as well (super clean). So take note of farias real rom post and programs you use a bit on it, because your probably want to go search for the cab files after you flash.
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Isn't that still a beta, so wouldnt it have a lot of problems? I also would like to know if by changing WM6 ROM would i have to reinstall of my software and stuff?
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For anichillus beta means - Well, have to test.
But there are only 2 liitle bugs to be solved and then it is readdy. Because Xplore1.1 was even good.
So your saying xplore 2.0 over faria's new kitchen ROM? Do u know when xplore 2.0 the final version is coming out?
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So your saying xplore 2.0 over faria's new kitchen ROM? Do u know when xplore 2.0 the final version is coming out?
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I say my opinion - nothing over another. Just I prefer this clean base ROM.
Won´t take long. Just read the end of the Xplore 2.0 thread. There are only two more bugs.
What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
killerkhatiby009 said:
What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
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Clean means - nothing included. No apps, no customizings, no tweaks.
YOu can add all by your own. but if you would like to start a little eaysier.
Try Xplore 1.1
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What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
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nevermind )
Clean typically means that it is stripped down of added programs and unnecessary items. A lot of the rom cookers are trying to come up with clean (also labeled vanilla) roms so that people can start cooking their own roms with a really good base to start off. I haven't tried farias rom that is included with the kitchen yet... but if its made by faria, its going to be good.
One thing to note about roms, is there isn't necessarily one thats better than another. Every rom is made for a purpose and to the cookers liking. One might be blazing fast with a crap load of free ram, while another one might be set up with alot of tweaks and programs that are more to your liking. With the kitchens that have been created, and the good amount of base roms coming out, we should see a lot of custom roms in the next couple of months.
My best suggestion, look at whats in the roms. Most roms have their own thread that lists what programs are included, and a lot times unique aspects of their rom.
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What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
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Clean and Vanilla basically mean the same thing. It means they are "plain". Nothing added to them, so they don't have all sorts of extra programs built into them or anything. The idea is to give you more memory and storage space, and hopefully make it run faster. Then you can add programs you want to it.
I've used XPlore 1.1 and now Faria Vanilla (both Beta version and now one I "cooked" with the ROM Kitchen but not adding anything to it yet beyond what was in the choices of the default kitchen options). Both ROMs are very fast and I honestly can't say I prefer one over the other. I'm sticking with the Faria one now though as (for some reason) to me it just feels solid (but I can't tell you why XPlore 1.1 didnt' feel that way to me). There are LOTS of people that swear by the XPlore roms and 2.0 looks to be very nice. But for now I'll stay with the Faria one (and may look at cooking up some of the things I use into the rom directly with the included kitchen so I have my own version of it that fits me).
If you want to try the Faria Vanilla, you have to download the entire kitchen, and then under the devwiz directory, there is a flashrom directory. You can run the Updater in there, and you will have the basic Faria Vanilla (clean) WM6 without messing with the kitchen itself.
Otherwise install XPlore 1.1 (or wait for 2.0)... You'll be happy either way (i'm guessing).
BTW: Don't forget there is also NotTooSmart's WM6 which is good, NoBigDeal (NBD) which gets good reviews, and WM6 Business Edition (also getting good reviews). Read the first post of each of the threads to see what is in the rom (or missing from it) and decide what fits you best. They all basically are the same beyond that (without getting technical).
The X-Plore 2.0 Rom is scheduled for a hopeful release date of next week.
In the name of our lord(s) let us pray...
Lol j/k
Anyway I have to agree with some of the posters above I absolutrly love 1.1. And I have to agree it is by far the best rom ever created. That just me. It varies depending on your tastes. Like I prefer a nice clean rom that already has the tweaks installed so I don't have to. That kkinda thing. Some people like their roms preloaded with a stuffload of apps. Ya know.
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Anyway I have to agree with some of the posters above I absolutrly love 1.1. And I have to agree it is by far the best rom ever created. That just me.
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Not to go off topic and not to start a "this rom is better than that rom" war, but I'm just curious about a statement like this (yes I know its an over exageration but still)... If you are going to claim that something is "the best rom ever created" can you also state what roms that have been created that you have tested before making this statement? I try to be clear when I post that I've tried this rom or that rom before I state this is my favorite, or fits my needs, or whatever by giving examples of other roms I've tried. But without knowing what roms you have tried before you claim something is "the best" I have no basis to know what you think its better than (other than it just works and you don't plan on switching to another rom now).
Again, this isn't an attempt to bait a rom war, but I like to be able to know what people have tried in the past and what they now really like based on their past history of other roms (I've seen some people that in one post say they just flashed from WM5 to a custom rom, then in another post claim that rom is better than any other rom out there. I like seeing people excited about great roms, but lets keep it in perspective to what they have tried before the one they now claim is the greatest).
Also, as aestivalisakito even points out, what one person wants is not what someone else may want, so its all personal opinion based on that person's needs (which also usually isn't known).
While I am going to ignore the fact that your messenge seems to be dripping with sarcasm however I could be wrong. Believe it or nolt I have tested Most of farias roms, and also some of the older ones. I have successfully flashed my wizard over 22 times with 9 different roms.
Now that having been said I DID state ''thats just me'' because that's what it is. I also stated that it all depends on your taste of roms and that you have to try multiple. I will state this again:
Code:
And I have to agree it is by far the best rom ever created. That just me. It varies depending on your tastes. Like I prefer a nice clean rom that already has the tweaks installed so I don't have to. That kkinda thing. Some people like their roms preloaded with a stuffload of apps.
BTW just kidding about the sarcasm
Right now IMO the fastest rom is BE rom and
Underground
Having tested them ALL when they came out
>>>>> Always went back to UNDERGROUND !
Cheers
hrb
installing apps vs cooking
hey guys, maybe someone can enlighten me.I think i've read somewhere that cooking ur own rom (in terms of adding ur own apps) causes a lesser RAM consumption than installing the apps.
What i'm trying to ask is..if I have a vanilla ROM,is it true that by cooking that ROM and adding the apps that i want,i'll end up with a rom that will consume less RAM in comparison to -> a vanilla ROM and installing all those apps (instead of cooking)?...
I've read someone say it is so but if it's true, how much of a difference really? thanks!
Related
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74619&PN=1
go ahead
Thai lang.
ps, sorry for my english i'm newby
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From this link - http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=75293&PN=1
How To Install.
1. for SPL1.xx you must upgrade to 2.xx by this official rom
http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/Prophet/RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
2. then download and extract it
- AKU3.3 Clean Rom PDAMobiz_Prophet_WM5AKU3.3_clean_rom.rar
or - AKU3.3 TiTanNet Customized version PDAMobiz_Prophet_WM5AKU3.3_v33031.rar
or - AKU3.3 Ruchonburi extended version PDAMobiz_Prophet_WM5AKU3.3_v3301.rar
(3.) BackUp your information
4. if you're using AKU2.3 or above you should DOWNGRADE to this official rom Download Official Rom 2.15
5. hard seret
6. connect (active sync) your phone to guest mode by pressing the cancel botton
7. then run UPGRADE_ROM.bat (How To - http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68863)
8. wait about 15 mins and when it finished hard reset again
**** you can't copy your (ex-) pim.vol to this rom ,it's not be good (you must Hard Reset again -*-)
sorry for my language ,i'm thai (and for my late ) , i just want to share
Great, I look forward to it being on XDA ftp for download.
Will check this out asap
To bad the website is loading very slowely.. ..wondering if it isn't just the same AKU3.3 ROM they've used for the UBiQUiO 501.
good news
haha
waiting clean rom
I agree, but it seems that you can't download it yet. My Thai is even worse than my English, so I can't exactly figure it out
Guess you have to request it for Beta testing.. ...so again we've got to be patient
clean rom
I can't understand, why they can't make a f..... clean rom. Who the hell want these programs into the rom?
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I can't understand, why they can't make a f..... clean rom. Who the hell want these programs into the rom?
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No one says you HAVE to install a different ROM. If you can do it better please let us know and share it! I think everybody who's creating things like programms or custom ROM's deserves to be treated with respect!
The only thing most people do is install it and wine about everything. My advice, stick with your current ROM!
PdaMobiz AKU 3.3 for Test
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No one says you HAVE to install a different ROM. If you can do it better please let us know and share it!
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Actually I share the opinion from kremo. The PDAMobiz people are some sort of pioneers in throwing out new ROMs and it would be nice if they would release "virgin" ROMs with the real stuff on it and not dump all kind of junk into it. I for my own would prefer an "virgin" ROM myself rather than one that contains a lot of crap that I won't want to use.
totally agree, let us decide what junk we want. surely it would be eaiser to test a rom if it was clean, with all this on the instability and bits that dont work could be down to any of the 101 things they have installed.
So what's the problem. Just restart your device before instal of the "crap" begins. I always do thatand after that I instal what I like from the extended rom.
Isn't there just an easy way to remove all the crap before installing and placing your cabs in there yourself?
Can't be too hard can in?
Myself I'm 'somewhere in between', I also like a clean rom more than a filled one. But then again, they make the rom so they can put in anything they like. If you want a clean rom, just wait for a modded one or clean it yourself.
As for the aku 3.3, I suppose it's interesting. Any news on what's changed and stuff? Might give this stuff a try later on if I can get it and have the time
problem is the crap isnt in the extended rom, if it were then i would be more than happy cleaning it up myself, the stuff is embedded and in many cases cant even be uninstalled.
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http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74619&PN=1
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Where is the download link ?
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Where is the download link ?
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Like mentioned before, you probalby have to make a request to become a Beta tester. We'll just have to wait a while
That is my big problem too!!!!!
I'm staying in Thailand my native language is Thai but I have never installed that PDAMobiz ROM. I sincerely respect their effort, read their new update, keep in touch, but search from here for the clean one (thanks to lvsw, Jesterz... for the clean ROM I use so far). I have never complained anything about junk soft in PDAMobiz board, here neither because I know that there is the argument we usually see all the time... "if you don't like, make it yourself". Yes I'm the one who wanna be a cooker but I know my potential. I did something as much as I can but it's just only the bug reporter level.
Just my 2 cents
Hi,
1) All customised ROMs are not official. They are usually based on official or customised ROMs for other type of device. They may have some bugs. Even the official ROMs do have bugs.
2) When people customise their ROMs, they modify the ROMs in some way to make them work for their devices. They may also put anything in the ROMs to their liking. What do you really mean by a clean ROM ??? is it the official ROM clean ? Diferent ROM vendors make different ROMs even for the same type of device. Some do not include many extra programs, but some do.
Do you complian about the extra (junk) things the ROM vendors put in their ROMs???
3) The main reason people embed things in the ROM is to save the device storage space. What is in the ROM is not taking any usable space of your device. The more things you put in the ROM, the more usable space you have available for other to-be-installed programs.
4) If you do not like programs embedded in the ROM, just do not use them. If they are not loaded, they are not running, the ROM has kind of the same state of that does not have them embedded in the ROM at all.
Even they are embedded in the ROM, you still have a choice to load them or not, without uninstalling them.
Again just my 2 cents
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anox said:
Hi,
1) All customised ROMs are not official. They are usually based on official or customised ROMs for other type of device. They may have some bugs. Even the official ROMs do have bugs.
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The official ROMs might have bugs no doubt, but they are official. Whenever we find some bugs we can report them or the service providers help desk can confirm whether they are bugs or not.
2) When people customise their ROMs, they modify the ROMs in some way to make them work for their devices. They may also put anything in the ROMs to their liking. What do you really mean by a clean ROM ??? is it the official ROM clean ? Diferent ROM vendors make different ROMs even for the same type of device. Some do not include many extra programs, but some do.
Do you complian about the extra (junk) things the ROM vendors put in their ROMs???
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If people make their own customized ROMs then its ok, but please stop pulling all kind of junk ROMs to the public and have experimental users brick their PocketPC's. In my former times as PALM User and Developer we only had official ROMs from PALM. There was just official 3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 4.0, 4.2 ROMs.
There is also a difference between extra junk put into ROM by my service provider that is required for proper functioning in germany for example (like correct emergency numbers 110, 112 rather than 991) or having it filled up with 50 other junk tools like PDAMobiz does.
I don't care much for PDAMobiz, when you go to their site you see their tamagochi and pokemon mentality. They have simply a different mentality and philosophy doing their business.
3) The main reason people embed things in the ROM is to save the device storage space. What is in the ROM is not taking any usable space of your device. The more things you put in the ROM, the more usable space you have available for other to-be-installed programs.
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A 2gb SD card can be bught for 30 Euros these days. So this kind of argument is quite bull****. There remains enough RAM for the programs to execute. A ROMs place should stay what it is. The place for ROM. Not just that even PDAMobiz seems to be altering a lot of Microsoft stuff like patching around in the registry, putting their logo in the loader and add all their tamagochi and pokemon junk everywhere.
All I (and most others want) is a clean Microsoft ROM pulled down from a phone next to you with all the AKU 3.3 stuff applied to it. Then pack it together in a clean ROM and be it.
4) If you do not like programs embedded in the ROM, just do not use them. If they are not loaded, they are not running, the ROM has kind of the same state of that does not have them embedded in the ROM at all.
Even they are embedded in the ROM, you still have a choice to load them or not, without uninstalling them.
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I don't want to use them but I also don't want to see them. Sorry for my somehow rough words here but it's how I see it.
Don't be so rough on cutomized ROMs. Some people like them, some people don't. It's up to you to decide whether to use them or not.
Bricking a phone is 100% up to the user of the device not the maker(s) of the cutomized ROM. When updating you should know you are taking a risk and should read loads of information on how to update before doing that.
When I read about people bricking their phones with a G3 rom while they have a G4 always makes me feel sorry for them, but on the other side can make me 'angry' why they just didn't take the time and properly read the forums here and gather all the needed info.
But all in all, customized roms are fun. You don't like all the crap they put in? Change it! Customize your own rom... but be careful though, because you need to know what you are doing. Put in some effort.
And don't forget, customized roms are made by volunteers for free. This can be a good thing or a bad, but that's up to everyone to decide for themselves.
imho there just shouldn't be an argument about this at all, it's what this forums is all about as long as I've been reading/using them. Customizing roms, trying to put upgrades in them, making them better. And it's the 'making them better' is what changes from dev to dev.
any of us finding the PERFECTIN in this world?
why don't we find the PLEASING
Spatzm said:
If people make their own customized ROMs then its ok, but please stop pulling all kind of junk ROMs to the public and have experimental users brick their PocketPC's. In my former times as PALM User and Developer we only had official ROMs from PALM. There was just official 3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 4.0, 4.2 ROMs.
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They make their own customized ROMs and just share with people who want to try. If you don't want, just keep yourself away. You can complain but do you think you are polite enough?
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I don't care much for PDAMobiz, when you go to their site you see their tamagochi and pokemon mentality. They have simply a different mentality and philosophy doing their business.
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What do you say about your mentality and attitude? This board is for friends to share with friends. You great guy came in with lots of complaints. Any offer to anyone?
Spatzm said:
I don't want to use them but I also don't want to see them. Sorry for my somehow rough words here but it's how I see it.
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Make it yourself.
Hi all,
Ive just got myself a tmobile wizard. ive been looking all through the wm6 pages and was just wondering is it worth me updating my wm5 to wm6. im sure all the new users would like to know this (is there speed improvements etc) and is there a rom that is stable and 99% working? as ive had alot of problems in the past when updating my blueangel to wm5
apologies if these are stupid questions
IMO, there's not enough extra in WM6 to justify the little problems it has. I'd suggest a stable WM5 like Farias 3.3
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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I would 2nd that!!! Now that we have the Ir button working 100%, i dont think there is other problems
So far so good here....
I know it's kinda aging now but I have been running NotTooSmart's Vanilla Rom for a while now and I have no issues whatsoever. I use my device constantly all day every day and though there was some trick to getting it to work just how I wanted I was comfortable enough to put the same ROM on my wife's Wizard as well (If you only knew how big of a step this was.... god forbid something goes wrong there I will never hear the end of it) .
Overall, here is the list of things that I do with rom if you are contemplating using it yourself and want to know if it will work for you.
Exchange activesync (heavy use)
Pocket IE
AIM 2.0 for PPC (osed once or twice)
Watching movies with TCPMP
( SEE TCPMP NOTES BELOW )
I use WMP as my only MP3 player with a couple of SD cards
WIFI works fine
Bluetooth headset with my HT850 works fine
Phone works okay. I mean, nothing is perfect and I do miss a call on occasion but so far it's acceptable. I have found, despite my previous posts, that 2.19 UK actually is more reliable. 2.25 US is better for data in my area but 2.19 UK causes me to miss a lot less calls.
I use internet radio via TCPMP at the gym every day reliably.
Sirius Sat Radio via SiriusWM5 works great although on occasion I do get the odd program error - NOTE: happens in WM5 too.
I DO NOT OVERCLOCK AT ALL as I really have no need for it.
Ewallet latest release works great
Listpro works great
I use a whole bunch of networking apps (tracert, pocket ping, etc...) from way back in the WM2003 days that still work just fine on WM6.
Terminal services works (though most people will not use this).
TCPMP NOTE: In order to do internet radio and most video you will need to DL and install the WMV9 codecs. This is a known issue and can be found by searching through back posts here in the WM6 forum.
Overall, I say yeah, it's worth it. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than anything but it's a "nice to have". Plus, HTML email is real nice if you have EXCH 2007.
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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How is the battery life with this rom?
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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I think this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
Make sure you have either G3 or G4 device as downloading the wrong version will brick your device.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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If you are wanting to give WM6 a go, then the Faria 3.3 rom is not the correct one. That is a WM5 rom.
The Faria Clean / Vanilla is the WM6 one. You have to download the entire ROM Kitchen, but there is a flash rom directory that has a default rom already built (or you can go through the build process to add and remove the stuff you want / don't want.
The link for the Faria WM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406 (same as given above, but that is NOT the AKU 3.3 Faria ROM)
If you really want Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its a stable WM5 ROM) then its here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
And then use this link to step you through flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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How is the battery life with this rom?
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it seems better than any wm6 i have tried , it does not have battery status installed and i have not installed it yet so without that and no overclocking its holding up as good as it did with farias wm5 3.3.
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ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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sometimes you can get around the 90 minute wait by just putting http://anonym.to/? infront of the URL. Doesn't always work but its worth a try.
Is it worth it?
I know I'm coming in late to the thread, but I think in general I would be a bit more cautious. The leap from a stock rom to a (necessarily) custom WM6 rom, and then to a rom kitchen is better taken in baby steps in my opinion. In my own view, objectively I don't see any difference in my day to day usage of my wizard from when I was running WM5. In fact, I think because I've become obsessed with tinkering with it, I spend more time trying out different odds and ends, tweaking and breaking and fixing things than I do using it!
If you are primarily interested in USING you Wizard, I would start with a small step to say the Faria 3.3 WM5 rom. Learn to unlock, and flash, load your programs again, etc. Then once that's digested move up to WM6 if you really feel the itch, then try a rom kitchen as a final step.
Whatever you do, Keep it Fun!
Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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No, its a "Vanilla" or "Clean" rom (ie: pretty much stripped down to the core). So you then add back to it just what you want.
If you want a full featured WM6, then look at Faria's "the real thing" but there are issues with that one so you have to dig through the huge thread for fixes (so I don't recommend it). If you want something that feels like a "stock" rom, then do the Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its WM5, but its better than the stock ones IMO).
I like the Vanilla roms though as you just put on it what you want. But not everyone likes that.
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
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I think that's a great idea. Even if you put in all his currently available options, it is still more of a vanilla rom. Maybe with and without Voice Command, as that seems to be a make or break issue for folks. But serve it up the way you like it!
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ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Well, if you're going to do this, now its time to start reading that thread.
Good luck!
i just want to install the vanilla standard rom, do i just need to run an exe from the kitchen folder?
I feel terrible for making such a novice post, but I figure better safe than sorry. I have been searching the forum for awhile now trying to find a definitive answer, but I haven't been able to so . . .
What is the best, or most stable release of Windows Mobile 6 available here? There are so many different versions, I just can't tell. Do I use Core 2.0 or Faria's build? WHICH faria build? Or should I choose another?
Sorry for my stupidity, but I would really like to know what to pick before I stick with one.
You're gonna get opinions from different angles, but I'd suggest going with "popularity", which comes down to the latest Faria or Xplore 2.0. There really isn't a definitive answer, just your own experience to guide you.
I'm sure either one is just fine for you, but before starting, READ EVERYTHING a number of times to ensure you understand everything you're about to partake in and possible issues. Regardless of which ROM you use, if you don't understand the basics of flashing a locked or unlocked CID phone, using the bootloader, recovering a botched load, using shelltool and the associated CABS, a registry editor... you get the picture. I'd say go with whichever seems best for you, since you'll probably end up customizing it anyway per your taste and usage. Just get the facts before you start, and hopefully prevent a headache or worse. Both are vanilla, and should be a good choice. Hope this helps.
-Matt
So what is the big difference between Core and Faria's build? I see those as being the two "big" releases. I understand they're both vanilla, which I like, so I can install my own things, but what are the differences between the two?
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So what is the big difference between Core and Faria's build? I see those as being the two "big" releases. I understand they're both vanilla, which I like, so I can install my own things, but what are the differences between the two?
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My best suggestion would be to compare the inital posts in their threads to see what was added / changed. They both pretty good about listing updates. As far as the base image goes, from what I've found, they all originated from the same source. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm mistaken.
-Matt
I have just recently switched from Faria's rom to Xplore 2.0 and i find xplore much better, i just feel its faster. But really its all just personal opinion. Try em both out, once you get the hand of flashing it isn't really that hard JUST MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY!!!. So flash one try it out, then flash the other one and try it out, then choose whichever one you liked best. Some people will say Faria's is better some will say xplore, and some will say other ones. It is really an opinion. Hope this helps
Thank you for the help! That was very prompt! I think I'm going to give Faria's a go, then probably Core 2.0. But before that, one last question -
Is a new build by Faria coming out soon? In his stickied thread about his rom and kitchen, he says "ANYway..... A V3 ROM is coming in days.......this will be a rom and not a RK.... it contains new radio stack,new windows live,new office mobile 12!,bt printing,new voice comand,new shell, etc etc....fixed windows mobile over activesync,fixed com,new default theme...and more."
So is this 'v3 rom' going to be what I want to wait for? Is that a new version of the vanilla, base rom I want? I'm not interested in the kitchen (which I assume is the "rk") but instead just want a clean rom which I can install a few programs on. So, should I wait for this next release?
i've tried both core 2 and faria. I like Faria better. the speed seemed to be the same and it came with everything I need. I'm on core 2 right now and it is missing a few things I want. plus there are a few bugs that bother me. and the MMS isn't working for me like it did in Faria. I work for t-mobile so I know the settings are correct. I'm waiting for the new Faria, I can't wait for that.
I really don't know much about his new ROM, but if you want you can wait, i waited for Xplore 2.0 to come out, but you never know how long you'll have to wait for it, as every new version will have fixes and stuff. If you want to go ahead and wait, it will save you the trouble of having to get all your programs and settings back, but if you really hate the ROM your on now, go ahead and switch, and then update again when the new one comes out. I always wait a couple of days when a new ROM comes out as to see if there are any big problems that people report and get answered that way when i flash it i am ready for the problem and know how to fix it. But thats just my 2 cents. (don't really know when to use this phrase, but i always wanted to say it, sorry if it doesn't make sense. )
What is the best, or most stable release of Windows Mobile 6 available here?
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NBD 5.1 ? ..
its not overloaded, stable as rock, and mem/speed is optimal. just ROM for agerage user, imo.
for people, that are in need for speed and space, theres xplore 2.0, or 1.1, its cleaned from some apps.
this may be good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305903
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff
ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy
Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
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The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."
Well as the title says, we have a cab for ManilaTV tab. Would love for cabs to come out for the Document tab and the new eReader tab (in 2.07 rom). Some of us dont want to flash custom roms and would prefer new tabs via cab entry. It was possible for ManilaTV so I guess we need time for the other new tabs to make it to cabs.
After flashing many many customs roms on my Blackstone and having it become slower and slower (due to remnents of previous rom files) I have vowed not to flash any custom roms and only flash offical roms
Lets hope the clever chaps on here can cab them up
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Well as the title says, we have a cab for ManilaTV tab. Would love for cabs to come out for the Document tab and the new eReader tab (in 2.07 rom). Some of us dont want to flash custom roms and would prefer new tabs via cab entry. It was possible for ManilaTV so I guess we need time for the other new tabs to make it to cabs.
After flashing many many customs roms on my Blackstone and having it become slower and slower (due to remnents of previous rom files) I have vowed not to flash any custom roms and only flash offical roms
Lets hope the clever chaps on here can cab them up
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Thats a good idea.
BTW what remnents do you get, and how badly does this affect the phone, do you have to flash x times before it get bad.
I would really like the Ebook reader, can't find one that works well at all .
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I would really like the Ebook reader, can't find one that works well at all .
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why Alreader works perf for me
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After flashing many many customs roms on my Blackstone and having it become slower and slower (due to remnents of previous rom files) I have vowed not to flash any custom roms and only flash offical roms
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ROM flashing performs a total rewrite of the ROM and then a hard reset. It's not actually possible for anything to be left over from a previous ROM.
If the ROMs were slower then it is because the ROMs were slower - end of. A lot of custom ROMs are actually faster than stock ROMs, so if it's the speed of your device that you're interested in, test more custom ROMs.
Sorry for the rant, but you're pretty much slating one of the biggest communities on xda and basically putting people off making their phones better with your misinformation.
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ROM flashing performs a total rewrite of the ROM and then a hard reset. It's not actually possible for anything to be left over from a previous ROM.
If the ROMs were slower then it is because the ROMs were slower - end of. A lot of custom ROMs are actually faster than stock ROMs, so if it's the speed of your device that you're interested in, test more custom ROMs.
Sorry for the rant, but you're pretty much slating one of the biggest communities on xda and basically putting people off making their phones better with your misinformation.
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Plus Sense is made for HD2 so it might get little slower on older devices than older manila 2.1 based ROMS..
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ROM flashing performs a total rewrite of the ROM and then a hard reset. It's not actually possible for anything to be left over from a previous ROM.
If the ROMs were slower then it is because the ROMs were slower - end of. A lot of custom ROMs are actually faster than stock ROMs, so if it's the speed of your device that you're interested in, test more custom ROMs.
Sorry for the rant, but you're pretty much slating one of the biggest communities on xda and basically putting people off making their phones better with your misinformation.
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I am sorry but I have had first hand experience of constant flashing of roms on my Blackstone. I have flashed many cooked roms and then finally flashed back to the official shipped stock rom and even then it was much slower than when I first bought it - even with the same rom. I went full circle.
MysticGenius says it simply: "Over the last couple of weeks, as all of us flashing junkies are continuously flashing devices there has been an increase in "Strange Problems" which to all intents and purposes are just “clog ups” and “bad flashes” etc"
This was why the MTTY thread came into existence - to totaly CLEAN the phone before flashing a rom. MTTY is used to clear the bootloader flags and to format the internal flashdisk for a perfect rom flash. If, as you say, it is not possible for anything to be left over from a previous rom, then you better break the bad news in the MTTY thread that they are wasting their time
I am in no way saying not to flash a cooked rom. All I am saying is (in my experience) by flashing many roms over and over, it will cause some slow down as I experienced. The best thing to do is not to rush to install a cooked rom. Wait and read up on the thread and do your research of which rom is for you. Try to get it right first time by waiting and waiting until you feel the rom is bug free and stable by reading the relevant posts.
I paid 500 pounds for my phone and I am not making the same mistake as I did with m Blackstone.
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I am sorry but I have had first hand experience of constant flashing of roms on my Blackstone. I have flashed many cooked roms and then finally flashed back to the official shipped stock rom and even then it was much slower than when I first bought it - even with the same rom. I went full circle.
MysticGenius says it simply: "Over the last couple of weeks, as all of us flashing junkies are continuously flashing devices there has been an increase in "Strange Problems" which to all intents and purposes are just “clog ups” and “bad flashes” etc"
This was why the MTTY thread came into existence - to totaly CLEAN the phone before flashing a rom. MTTY is used to clear the bootloader flags and to format the internal flashdisk for a perfect rom flash. If, as you say, it is not possible for anything to be left over from a previous rom, then you better break the bad news in the MTTY thread that they are wasting their time
I am in no way saying not to flash a cooked rom. All I am saying is (in my experience) by flashing many roms over and over, it will cause some slow down as I experienced. The best thing to do is not to rush to install a cooked rom. Wait and read up on the thread and do your research of which rom is for you. Try to get it right first time by waiting and waiting until you feel the rom is bug free and stable by reading the relevant posts.
I paid 500 pounds for my phone and I am not making the same mistake as I did with m Blackstone.
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So why don't you do what you said by doing a total CLEAN b4 reflashing a cooked ROM that why you are sure that nothing is still lurking in the internal flashed.
Well, next time i flash a cooked ROM, I'll definitely do this.
Thanks to you guys for making such a good forum discussion and perhaps prove to the Iphone community Win Mobile isn't that bad if people are
a little more knowledgeable about their Win Mobile phone.
Miri has in the latest ROM:
Miri_HD2_WM65X_23529_Sense25_V3.1
(HTCpedia)
The New Manila with Ebook Reader (Sense 2.5) and a Document Tab. but no TVtab, but he, i can't read and watch tv at the same time
Yes the eReader would be great even if just an app that needs to be added to quick links
Ben
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Yes the eReader would be great even if just an app that needs to be added to quick links
Ben
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Then you definitely should try Freda. It supports the same ePub format as the HTC eReader , except that it doesn't allow you to read DRM protected ePub-books (and doesn't support pinch-to-zoom). Except for these two things, Freda is definitely superior to the HTC eReader. It has much more options, such as use your own fonts for books, define the way you want to navigate through pages (yes it also works with gestures), built-in library to which you can easily add books etc. etc.
...And another plug for the free AIReader, I've tried every e-book reader and this one blows me away!
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AIReader!
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anyone got the .cab or a link for this as i am very interested
Not much on-topic replies so far. I'm interested as well, flashing voids my warranty, and I don't have time to reinstall and configure everything.