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Comparing MB ROM and Faria's New ROM

Can anyone compare these 2 ROMs?
I am not sure if this thread was necessary, but i am pretty sure there are others out there just like me, who are very picky or maybe i should say very confiused about upgrading every other week, installing everything all over again and once everything is perfect and stable, doing everything all over again because there is a new ROM cooked..
Much Respect to Faria and Other ROM cookers out there.. I dont mean to disrespect to your great work.. I just want to know if we should wait, or go with the new ROM.. I am pretty sure you great cookers will come up with new ROMs..
Thank you and once again, dont mean to disrespect.. Just curious..

newyorker said:
Can anyone compare these 2 ROMs?
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If the MB works fine for you, you don't need to upgrade to another ROM. The Faria's ROM was release for less than 12 hours, people need more times to install programs and check out all of the pro and con.
MB was based on the beta WM6 ROM.
Faria was a new possibly real/final ROM according to him.
Backup your programs using any good backup programs and try the new ROM. If you don't like Faria's ROM, reload the MB ROM and run your backup, it will take less than 15 minutes. Only you can tell if it's good for you or not.

mtvn said:
If the MB works fine for you, you don't need to upgrade to another ROM. The Faria's ROM was release for less than 12 hours, people need more times to install programs and check out all of the pro and con.
MB was based on the beta WM6 ROM.
Faria was a new possibly real/final ROM according to him.
Backup your programs using any good backup programs and try the new ROM. If you don't like Faria's ROM, reload the MB ROM and run your backup, it will take less than 15 minutes. Only you can tell if it's good for you or not.
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good point

Just looking at the listing of whats in that ROM, it looks bloated. I like the cleanness of the MB rom. Ill wait for him to release the vanilla rom before trying it out. I perfer to choose my own apps to load. most of that other stuff i rarely use, why waste the ram and flash space for it.
Faria makes good ROMs. I just perfer mine to be clean, so i can make my own choices.

d0ug said:
Faria makes good ROMs. I just perfer mine to be clean, so i can make my own choices.
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If you don't like waiting, just unpack it and remove them yourself. It's very easy using the guide in Molksi's website

mtvn said:
If you don't like waiting, just unpack it and remove them yourself. It's very easy using the guide in Molksi's website
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That is something I would like to try doing one of these days. I just havent had the free time.
That will be my next step, trying to make my own custom ROMs.

Yes, I was am waiting as well to see the "vanilla" version of his rom so it doesn't have all those extra programs that I don't use anyway. I don't like that he stripped pieces from the rom either (like VOIP even though it's not working.... yet)

My MB Edition works so good for me now I will wait til all the bugs are worked out and patches posted before I try Faria's latest.

trojan9x said:
Yes, I was am waiting as well to see the "vanilla" version of his rom so it doesn't have all those extra programs that I don't use anyway. I don't like that he stripped pieces from the rom either (like VOIP even though it's not working.... yet)
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or you could simple do your own! as for voip it does not work because ther is no service for it plus the app is imcomplete in all wm6 roms ..so whats the point of having it?

I don't think it's incomplete... well, not totally.. I believe we just need to figure out what will trigger the menu options for it. Well, no one knew the VOIP button was in the comm manager until I tried to add it just for the hell of it. I am sure there are lots to be discovered about it if we had enough people trying things.

trojan9x said:
I don't think it's incomplete... well, not totally.. I believe we just need to figure out what will trigger the menu options for it. Well, no one knew the VOIP button was in the comm manager until I tried to add it just for the hell of it. I am sure there are lots to be discovered about it if we had enough people trying things.
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it is incomplete I'm told and like i said there is no services that supports as yet....
the gurus been at it for ages and this are their conclusions 9at the moment],i Even supplied missing files from Roms that i have, this is supposed to work in future with some carriers.....but if you can make it work then you will be remembered for ieternity . all thought i have a new crossbow rom to test it may be working. for me skype does the job.

faria said:
all thought i have a new crossbow rom to test it may be working. for me skype does the job.
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Thanks for your input. I am assuming your rom is straight from HTC or from someone you know at HTC? Is this "new" rom different from the one you uploaded yesterday that you had for a year? What is the date on it?

trojan9x said:
Thanks for your input. I am assuming your rom is straight from HTC or from someone you know at HTC? Is this "new" rom different from the one you uploaded yesterday that you had for a year? What is the date on it?
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im afraid,i cant say no more...sorry...
but i cant tell you this....when i release a project that means i allredy got the next one halfway done or finished.

ok, will you at least say if this next "newer" version will be for (or was specifically designed for) the wizard?

As ive read too many bugs for me
Hello m8s. I rather wait for a more stable version. It look like that latest ROM is packed a with a new set of bugs. (No offense faria).
When is the release of the actual WM6??

charly_mx said:
Hello m8s. I rather wait for a more stable version. It look like that latest ROM is packed a with a new set of bugs. (No offense faria).
When is the release of the actual WM6??
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no one knows what the actual release will be. Still haveto wait and see which manufacturers will be giving it out.

charly_mx said:
Hello m8s. I rather wait for a more stable version. It look like that latest ROM is packed a with a new set of bugs. (No offense faria).
When is the release of the actual WM6??
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none taken...
and what bugs are these..? i mean real bugs exactly?
and another wend was the lat time you loaded a rom that perform how is suppose to? truly. custom or official?
i myself call it undocumented features.....

faria said:
none taken...
and what bugs are these..? i mean real bugs exactly?
and another wend was the lat time you loaded a rom that perform how is suppose to? truly. custom or official?
i myself call it undocumented features.....
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One bug - When the Wizard is in Standby mode and set to vibrate, it does not vibrate on new e-mails received. It worked correctly in the 2.26 ROM I was using previously, but didn't work in the 1.18 ROM that was on the device when I first got it. Looks like the behavior is back to the way it was in the early WM5 ROMs. I get the feeling this is deeper than just a tweak to the registry, but would happily be corrected.
As for the "feature" aspect, I think Microsoft refers to them as "opportunities for developers".
-Pete

trojan9x said:
ok, will you at least say if this next "newer" version will be for (or was specifically designed for) the wizard?
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Faria??????

paschott said:
One bug - When the Wizard is in Standby mode and set to vibrate, it does not vibrate on new e-mails received. It worked correctly in the 2.26 ROM I was using previously, but didn't work in the 1.18 ROM that was on the device when I first got it. Looks like the behavior is back to the way it was in the early WM5 ROMs. I get the feeling this is deeper than just a tweak to the registry, but would happily be corrected.
As for the "feature" aspect, I think Microsoft refers to them as "opportunities for developers".
-Pete
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wrong... you comparing 2 totaly diferent roms... and again this is in all crossbow roms...so how do you call it a bug in my rom?
i fact this thread should not exist because there is no other roms that can be compared to?
if you people want to compare o slag anyones work at least make sure that the 2 roms have the same core, dont you think?

Best WM6 ROM

Right now i have Faria's "the real thing", is there a better ROM out there right now, like his new kitchen ROM? I am still new to the whole flashing thing and "the real thing" was my first time flashing a ROM and all, so i prefer to not switch unless its a really good change. Plus the kitchen ROM seems kinda confusing to do. So are there any suggestions about a better ROM for my SIM and CID unlocked G3 T-Mobile US Wizard?
PS: sorry its not a poll, to lazy to do it

xplore 2.0

Isn't that still a beta, so wouldnt it have a lot of problems? I also would like to know if by changing WM6 ROM would i have to reinstall of my software and stuff?

Hold on! How could you have flashed before and not know the answer to that question yourself? Yes, it will wipe all your data and flash your phone to whatever the cooker made it to be.
Make sure you know what you're doing, do a little more reading first.

I knew it would delete it, but i thought that might just be WM5 to WM6 and if you just change WM6 to WM6 it wouldnt do it, but thanks for confirmation. Do u have a reccomendation for another ROM or should i just stick with "the real thing"?

Hey I just switched from farias real rom to xplore 1.1 and I have to say, I am been very pleased with the switch, and even more excited about xplore 2.0.
If you really don't want to flash your phone too many times in the future, I would hold out for xplore 2.0 to come out (hopefully should be out by the end of the week) and flash that.
For keeping your software and information, of course you can use activesync to get some of your programs back up, farias rom I believe came with PIM Backup (if not get it), which allows you to restore your text messages and call logs and such.
One thing to note... Xplore is alot clean rom than farias. By that I mean there isn't alot of extra stuff installed on it from start. 2.0 will definitely be designed that way as well (super clean). So take note of farias real rom post and programs you use a bit on it, because your probably want to go search for the cab files after you flash.

killerkhatiby009 said:
Isn't that still a beta, so wouldnt it have a lot of problems? I also would like to know if by changing WM6 ROM would i have to reinstall of my software and stuff?
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For anichillus beta means - Well, have to test.
But there are only 2 liitle bugs to be solved and then it is readdy. Because Xplore1.1 was even good.

So your saying xplore 2.0 over faria's new kitchen ROM? Do u know when xplore 2.0 the final version is coming out?

killerkhatiby009 said:
So your saying xplore 2.0 over faria's new kitchen ROM? Do u know when xplore 2.0 the final version is coming out?
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I say my opinion - nothing over another. Just I prefer this clean base ROM.
Won´t take long. Just read the end of the Xplore 2.0 thread. There are only two more bugs.

What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.

killerkhatiby009 said:
What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
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Clean means - nothing included. No apps, no customizings, no tweaks.
YOu can add all by your own. but if you would like to start a little eaysier.
Try Xplore 1.1

killerkhatiby009 said:
What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
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nevermind )

Clean typically means that it is stripped down of added programs and unnecessary items. A lot of the rom cookers are trying to come up with clean (also labeled vanilla) roms so that people can start cooking their own roms with a really good base to start off. I haven't tried farias rom that is included with the kitchen yet... but if its made by faria, its going to be good.
One thing to note about roms, is there isn't necessarily one thats better than another. Every rom is made for a purpose and to the cookers liking. One might be blazing fast with a crap load of free ram, while another one might be set up with alot of tweaks and programs that are more to your liking. With the kitchens that have been created, and the good amount of base roms coming out, we should see a lot of custom roms in the next couple of months.
My best suggestion, look at whats in the roms. Most roms have their own thread that lists what programs are included, and a lot times unique aspects of their rom.

killerkhatiby009 said:
What does it mean for a ROM to be "clean"? and what are the advantages of it being "clean"? Also is it the same thing as a ROM being Vanilla? Im still kinda new to the whole Flashing ROMs and stuff.
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Clean and Vanilla basically mean the same thing. It means they are "plain". Nothing added to them, so they don't have all sorts of extra programs built into them or anything. The idea is to give you more memory and storage space, and hopefully make it run faster. Then you can add programs you want to it.
I've used XPlore 1.1 and now Faria Vanilla (both Beta version and now one I "cooked" with the ROM Kitchen but not adding anything to it yet beyond what was in the choices of the default kitchen options). Both ROMs are very fast and I honestly can't say I prefer one over the other. I'm sticking with the Faria one now though as (for some reason) to me it just feels solid (but I can't tell you why XPlore 1.1 didnt' feel that way to me). There are LOTS of people that swear by the XPlore roms and 2.0 looks to be very nice. But for now I'll stay with the Faria one (and may look at cooking up some of the things I use into the rom directly with the included kitchen so I have my own version of it that fits me).
If you want to try the Faria Vanilla, you have to download the entire kitchen, and then under the devwiz directory, there is a flashrom directory. You can run the Updater in there, and you will have the basic Faria Vanilla (clean) WM6 without messing with the kitchen itself.
Otherwise install XPlore 1.1 (or wait for 2.0)... You'll be happy either way (i'm guessing).
BTW: Don't forget there is also NotTooSmart's WM6 which is good, NoBigDeal (NBD) which gets good reviews, and WM6 Business Edition (also getting good reviews). Read the first post of each of the threads to see what is in the rom (or missing from it) and decide what fits you best. They all basically are the same beyond that (without getting technical).

The X-Plore 2.0 Rom is scheduled for a hopeful release date of next week.
In the name of our lord(s) let us pray...
Lol j/k
Anyway I have to agree with some of the posters above I absolutrly love 1.1. And I have to agree it is by far the best rom ever created. That just me. It varies depending on your tastes. Like I prefer a nice clean rom that already has the tweaks installed so I don't have to. That kkinda thing. Some people like their roms preloaded with a stuffload of apps. Ya know.

aestivalisakito said:
Anyway I have to agree with some of the posters above I absolutrly love 1.1. And I have to agree it is by far the best rom ever created. That just me.
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Not to go off topic and not to start a "this rom is better than that rom" war, but I'm just curious about a statement like this (yes I know its an over exageration but still)... If you are going to claim that something is "the best rom ever created" can you also state what roms that have been created that you have tested before making this statement? I try to be clear when I post that I've tried this rom or that rom before I state this is my favorite, or fits my needs, or whatever by giving examples of other roms I've tried. But without knowing what roms you have tried before you claim something is "the best" I have no basis to know what you think its better than (other than it just works and you don't plan on switching to another rom now).
Again, this isn't an attempt to bait a rom war, but I like to be able to know what people have tried in the past and what they now really like based on their past history of other roms (I've seen some people that in one post say they just flashed from WM5 to a custom rom, then in another post claim that rom is better than any other rom out there. I like seeing people excited about great roms, but lets keep it in perspective to what they have tried before the one they now claim is the greatest).
Also, as aestivalisakito even points out, what one person wants is not what someone else may want, so its all personal opinion based on that person's needs (which also usually isn't known).

While I am going to ignore the fact that your messenge seems to be dripping with sarcasm however I could be wrong. Believe it or nolt I have tested Most of farias roms, and also some of the older ones. I have successfully flashed my wizard over 22 times with 9 different roms.
Now that having been said I DID state ''thats just me'' because that's what it is. I also stated that it all depends on your taste of roms and that you have to try multiple. I will state this again:
Code:
And I have to agree it is by far the best rom ever created. That just me. It varies depending on your tastes. Like I prefer a nice clean rom that already has the tweaks installed so I don't have to. That kkinda thing. Some people like their roms preloaded with a stuffload of apps.
BTW just kidding about the sarcasm

Right now IMO the fastest rom is BE rom and

Underground
Having tested them ALL when they came out
>>>>> Always went back to UNDERGROUND !
Cheers
hrb

installing apps vs cooking
hey guys, maybe someone can enlighten me.I think i've read somewhere that cooking ur own rom (in terms of adding ur own apps) causes a lesser RAM consumption than installing the apps.
What i'm trying to ask is..if I have a vanilla ROM,is it true that by cooking that ROM and adding the apps that i want,i'll end up with a rom that will consume less RAM in comparison to -> a vanilla ROM and installing all those apps (instead of cooking)?...
I've read someone say it is so but if it's true, how much of a difference really? thanks!

What Wizard Wm6 Rom Do U Think Is Best?

I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!

and the dumbest post award goes to ....

charly_mx said:
and the dumbest post award goes to ....
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Is this really necessary?
waleed786 said:
I need help choosing a ROM, this is my first time. Memory doesn't matter, I have SD card. Hoping for some extra programs, good wifi, and stable, I don't want it to freeze too often. Battery life doesn't matter as long as it lasts a FULL day. Let me what you think is best, so far I like the wizard titanium, but people tell me its too old. What do you think? ALSO, IT HAS TO BE WM6! THNAKS!!!
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If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.

dharvey4651 said:
Is this really necessary?
If I had to recommend a fast stable rom with some nice extras, I would have to say TNT.1437 is one of the best. It has plenty of nice little extras and is one of the most complete and stable rom's I have used. I have been using it for the last 4 months and only switched Roms to test new releases and then always to back to the 1437 build. I personally like the TouchFlo version.
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Very true,the best ever Rom I have tried so far and specially the 10mb ppool

I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy

I use XM6r3, it has given me no problems at all. I have tried many other roms and felt this was the best for my needs. Are there faster roms? I did like tnt, I tried a couple different builds (including touchflo which I don't care for) and after configuring and installing all my normal things, XM6r3 seemed to run faster. Available memory was almost =. I do like some of the bug fixes TNT has.
You think your question should be easy to answer, but really your asking what is the best car manufacturer, who has the best tasting beer. In time you will find one you like. I initially flashed my brains out with everything I could get my usb cable on, but now, I just want something that gets it done.
Jeff

ADB100 said:
I spent a fair bit of time re-working TNT 1437 to suit my own needs and preferences. I have relatively easily moved from TNT 1437 to 1921 and recently to 1933; each time having to make some modifications to it's right Base ROM. However since he has kept the ROMs reasonably consistent between versions my time spent modifying has decreased somewhat.
My choice of ROMs would be it's right's 1933 Base and my own customisations. Most ROMs are likely to have something you don't like or don't want and I think it is now so easily to learn how to cook your own the best option is to build your own using one of the bases available. That way it will be the 'best ROM' for you.
For me, I will be sticking with it's right 1933 base for the time being as I have had very few issues with it, plus he has worked hard integrating the original 5.2.318 drivers into it, oh and it's (currently) the latest
My 2 cents..
Andy
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What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.

Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?

waleed786 said:
Ok, I want to thank everyone for all your help. Also, charile_mx, if you didn't have any advice for me, you shoudn't have posted anything at all, there was no reason for you to post the stupid comment. So far I like the wm6 tnt touchflo edition, it looks nice, but im going to do more research on it first. how stable is it? Does it open apps quick, and can I open 2 or 3 apps at onve without it freezing?
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The best thing that you can do for yourself is simply read up on everything involved with your wizard first. Is it unlocked? Is it G3 or G4? Does it have an IPL and SPL higher then 2.XX ? Please don't answer these questions to me. I am simply giving you some things to follow up on in your research, so that you can avoid ending up with a Brick.
Personally I have been using my own cooked Cross bred version, although I really like the look of It's Right 1933. I may have to cross breed something there.
Good Luck

dharvey4651 said:
What kind of modifications did you make to the TNT.1437 Rom? I have been using it for some time and love it but for whatever reason I can't seem to get any of the many available kitchens to work on my computer whether it be on my Vista partition or my XP partition. Neither work.
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Nothing too major. I modified a few .RGU files to remove some settings I don't like (Wireless on the Today screen is one I can think of), replaced the various TNT skin customisations with the default ones, replaced the Calc1 with the original Calculator, removed the themes and added my own, customised my own 'Office Mobile' folder, added battery status with my own settings, removed some unused applications and replaced them with some of my own. I replaced some of the included packages with the same ones I have that I have had continued sucess with - i.e. the various media related packages that all have reliance on certain codecs and system files that everyone seems to have issues with (Audio Manager, Voice Recorder, Streaming Media, Camera & MMS). I also included my Personal Stuff and locale settings in a custom .RGU file as well as changed the Autorun stuff to launch my own extended ROM. Oh and I have my own custom splash screens (which it took me a while to get installed and it really pi$$ed me off when I used to install a new ROM and these got overwritten..... )
Basically when I flash my ROM (or hard reset) there are minimal changes that I need to make and no software to manually install to get it back the way I like it (my VoIP settings, a Certificate and TT get installed from my extended ROM).
I am currently using the 'HyperCore' kitchen but have used others with similar results. Using the HyperCore you must follow the instructions since it is easy to miss a step and end up with a partially 'dead' Wizard.
HTH
Andy

Starting this thread was a bad idea. Sorry I didn't saw it yesterday
Reasons :
[*]This has been posted too many times before.
[*]The "Best ROM" for you is the one YOU like most. You'll have to try a few on your own to figure out which one works best for you.
[*]Everybody will give you different answers so you won't get much out of it.
[*]ROMs don't act the same on all devices. One ROM that works perfect on my device it might not work the same on yours or any other one here. You don't trust me ? Do a benchmark on your PDA..then ask someone else to do a benchmark on his PDA with same ROM and you'll see differences.
In case that didn't convinced you, here's a small list of similar threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339408
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335642
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333120
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306917
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330668
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324876
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324156
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317901
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316778
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314646
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314497
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295777
...
The list can continue. "This is but a fraction of the monster..."

Too many ROMS to choose from!

Hi guys,
I'd like to try a custom ROM again, but with the almost 100s available I'd rather ask the question - I'm looking for a normal standard Raphael ROM with just the standard apps on as it came out on the Raphael.
So basicly just a straight dump from Raphael HTC rom to go onto a Kaiser (with the neccesary tweaks of course to make it work). No other personalised apps, schemes, etc etc.
Are there something like this?

You probably can port a ROM from Raphael.

stoutseun said:
Hi guys,
I'd like to try a custom ROM again, but with the almost 100s available I'd rather ask the question - I'm looking for a normal standard Raphael ROM with just the standard apps on as it came out on the Raphael.
So basicly just a straight dump from Raphael HTC rom to go onto a Kaiser (with the neccesary tweaks of course to make it work). No other personalised apps, schemes, etc etc.
Are there something like this?
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Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!

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Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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He could also look at -G-'s SE TL ROM. Gives about the same functionality as TF3D but is usable on daily basis

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php

dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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you forgot anryls roms

msd24200 said:
you forgot anryls roms
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Right, my bad! I guess I should have just said try them all! All the ROMs here are works of art!

dashmaster1000 said:
Well seeing as how the Raphael has TF3D, that narrows your search down to about 2 ROMS L26 V4 or -G-'s SE TF3D! But if you are looking for simple and easy for daily use without alot of tweaking you are not going to want TF3D! I would go with -G-'s SE TF2D or Hyperdragon Raphael build! You are going to get alot of suggetions because ROMs are different for each person, the easy thing to do is ask but the best thing to do is try them out and gain valuable exp for yourself!
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Or the ROM I'm currently using. Or just do like we did and try them, everyone's opinion here is definitely different. YMMV

flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep

stylez said:
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
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ROFL!! Right, once you pop you cant stop!

dashmaster1000 said:
ROFL!! Right, once you pop you cant stop!
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There should be some sort of goverment guidelines for flashing, there is but not in this variety

stylez said:
There should be some sort of goverment guidelines for flashing, there is but not in this variety
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Yea, I get strange looks from my girl when I tell her I have been flashing all day!

Guys,
actually, have you paid attention to your programme memory of all those different roms. I found dutty's last one has the most programme memory 95M which I think was the reason why it is so fast and stable..
what do you think?

NooWay said:
Guys,
actually, have you paid attention to your programme memory of all those different roms. I found dutty's last one has the most programme memory 95M which I think was the reason why it is so fast and stable..
what do you think?
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95mb not free but overall right?
this because have 6mb poolpage with this way have more mb free.. but is not so fast than dynamic pagepool

There are two types of people here, those that like flashing new ROMs every chance they get, and if I were a psychiatrist, I would diagnose those with ADD ( Attention Deficit Disorder candidates), and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
So which person are you? do you intend to flash often for the sake of flashing or you just want one that has most user programs and looks somewhat good? OK ... let us know and we'll guide you then toward the "Ultimate" ROM that would satisfies your curiosity and fits your personality.

To be honest, I've tried all Dutty's, L26, Hyperdragon, PDACorner, Garmin (3 editions) and I'm still unable to choose one !
When he was active Dutty was the best, but now all these ROMs are just beautiful, and I've been flashing for a couple of days, and still unable to make my choice.
It becomes frustrating at the end, because our Chefs are so great that they release a new ROM each week...
As someone said before (forgot who, sorry)
"You're like a kid in a candy shop".

asfoor said:
...and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
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Hehe, very true! I've done the ROM hopping on the Kaiser and previous Vox, but is now more after the stable quick easy-to-use one ;-) Hence i actually moved back to a standard HTC ROM (but there's still that customization side that needs tickling...)
Thanks for the replies so far.. I'll the ones mentioned.

stylez said:
flash, flash, flash no sleep needed you will find the rom you like, then sleep
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I always tend to flash that rom too, and then the cycle starts over again flashing over and over again. I can't go a weak without trying something different!
Jason

stoutseun said:
Hehe, very true! I've done the ROM hopping on the Kaiser and previous Vox, but is now more after the stable quick easy-to-use one ;-) Hence i actually moved back to a standard HTC ROM (but there's still that customization side that needs tickling...)
Thanks for the replies so far.. I'll the ones mentioned.
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I got my tilt about 3 months ago, and have been flashing constantly! Yet to find the right one for me! All of them are good, but not perfect for me. And I dont want to cook, cuz I am too lazy! So I will keep flashing, but finding a perfect ROM is never going to happen!!

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There are two types of people here, those that like flashing new ROMs every chance they get, and if I were a psychiatrist, I would diagnose those with ADD ( Attention Deficit Disorder candidates), and those that want a stable ROM that they would show it off to their friends, and keep it for a long time; a ROM that is reliable and fast and has many programs. The first type of people are adventurous however when they flash a new ROM, and if it glitches a bit, they get frustrated and wished they would have stayed with their previous ROM. BUT they go on and try other ROMs for hopes they come across one that is even better than their previous one they liked.
So which person are you? do you intend to flash often for the sake of flashing or you just want one that has most user programs and looks somewhat good? OK ... let us know and we'll guide you then toward the "Ultimate" ROM that would satisfies your curiosity and fits your personality.
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I wouldn't completely classify myself in the first category, as I know quite what I want and I know it isn't there yet. I love M3D roms and I do enjoy packing it full of features and everything. I have run L26's M3D rom for a while, and I just tried -G-'s for a day yesterday. But then many times those roms have enough issues pop up that make the phone basically unusable, and then I will back track to either a M2D rom, or even a HTC Home rom just for speed, stability, and in the case of the HTC Home roms, flawless landscape support. Then after a week or two, I start looking at the M3D roms again, hoping that there have been some fixes and work arounds and I start trying it again, and the cycle goes again!
And for what you mentioned about wishing to put the previous rom on there...Norton Ghost would be a great product for these phones!
Jason

AT&T ROM update: Should I bother?

This question is more directed at the folks who have done the ROM update and can give a solid opinion about the performance after the update.
In the liner notes to the ROM, it says it improves TF3D performance, adds the HTC Radio app, this, that, and the other... Is it really worth it? My device works fine for me the way it is, but if there really is a noticeable performance improvement or better battery life, then I'll certainly go for it.
Speaking of, where can I find the stock AT&T Fuze ROM?

Well, I did ... but I only kept the original ROM for about a half-day, so I really can't speak TOO MUCH from performance improvements. I just wanted to have the latest official ROM for a while before I start either trying others or building one myself.
As for WHERE? Try here [ http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=198&act=sd&cat=all ]. That's where I got my updated version.
HTH,
-pvs

That's where you can download the updated ROM. I was asking about where I can download the ORIGINAL ROM. I've already downloaded the update and am hesitant to install it unless it is really worth it... I don't mind flashing my old device, but this is a brand new phone and I don't want to get flash-happy on it so soon. Next thing I know, I'll be in a back alley somewhere, trying to install another WM6.5 ROM just to get a fix.

I used the original rom till the update became available and Ifelt it was much better. Albeit I do get more errors for some reason (usually net caller ID, but that's normal).The radio works like a charm and the performance did feel like it got better.
The upgrade is a 90% good choice imo.

I used the original rom till the update became available and Ifelt it was much better. Albeit I do get more errors for some reason (usually net caller ID, but that's normal).The radio works like a charm and the performance did feel like it got better.
The upgrade is a 90% good choice imo.

bryceowen said:
That's where you can download the updated ROM. I was asking about where I can download the ORIGINAL ROM.
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Ahhh, sorry about the confusion. As I see it, you have two choices ... you can dump the ROM you currently have, and rebuild it as a flashable ROM, or you can look at this Wiki Page, and see if yours is already listed. My original ROM (1.95.502.5) is listed, and it has a DL link (although I haven't tried it.)
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I've already downloaded the update and am hesitant to install it unless it is really worth it... I don't mind flashing my old device, but this is a brand new phone and I don't want to get flash-happy on it so soon. Next thing I know, I'll be in a back alley somewhere, trying to install another WM6.5 ROM just to get a fix.
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I know what you mean . I have just moved here from my old Hermes, so sad it gave up its ghost with a broken digitizer. I miss the scroll wheel SO MUCH, although the Raph IS growing on me. I had flashed that old device so many times while I was learning the basics of cooking. And once I got that done, I was thrilled with it for several years. I am not so keen to begin the cycle again, myself, although I DO feel it coming. But flashing a stock ROM isn't quite the same, and it doesn't come close to voiding any warranties. I would highly recommend you take the plunge, just to stay current, if nothing else.
And when the time comes, starting with a basic shipped ROM will be the way I go, anyway, as I begin cooking up something new for myself.
Anyway, I hope this helps. Good luck, whatever you decide.
-pvs