Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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I managed to "beat" the TMobile 2.26 in benchmark. System speed is similar, but still not the same thing.
What WM6 ROm version did you actually use to compare and how did you compare?
Lots of people here are now using WM6 including myself and I really don't see any issues regarding performance when you compare to WM5.
So, I suggest you to play little more specially with these recently ones like X-plore 1.1, read the benchmarks and see the difference.
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Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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vlodeck said:
Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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I thought Molski's 3.3 aku was snail paced, 2.3 aku is by far the fastest. superrom1.1 with NO overclocking is faster than every other rom with overclocking! ymmv
Man, I've tried EVERY rom, starting from UNDERGROUND, through MB, and ending on Xplore 1.1
Each rom has the same issue, softkey lag, and slow screen rotation. Maybe it is faster in TCPMP or in whatsoever. Nevertheless, comparing to Molski WM5 or even T-mobile 2.26 - WM5 is much faster !
When talking of speed why don´t we share sktools benchmarks with and without overclocking to each ROM without any software. Just after hardreset, tweaks, and sktools.
Let´s start to compare??
BTW the overclocking speed that TCPMP shows is more specific than to compare batterystatus vs. omapclock.
Btw. after anichillus will be ready with Xplore 2.0 this discussion will end - because I believe him to create the fastest.
yea xplore 2.0 will be the tits
It would be a neat thing to compare all these roms. One added complexity is that many of the custom roms are by default overclocked, so they would need to be manually throttled down for the comparison to be fair. (For example, supperrom 1.1 is by default overclocked to 252 mhz, Molski's has both smartskey and battery status installed, but I don't remember the default settings.) In addition, filecache and sd cache settings can greatly affect reported sd read speeds. Also, I'm not sure how the benchmarks compare with "real world" speed, but its the best we have for now.
Have fun!
1. Xplore 1.1 (taken from thread) 195Mhz (BS)
2. XPlore 2.0 (early stadium) (taken from thread) 195mhz
Poppamops, a favor...
Since you're running the new x-plore, could you check the following registry values?
HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>MMC_Class:
BlockTransferSize
HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>SDMemory_C lass:
BlockTransferSize
HKLM>System>StorageManager>FATFS:
CacheSize
HKLM>System>StorageManager>Filters>freplxfilt:
ReplStoreCacheSize
I've found these tweaks will increase the reported SD read rate greatly.
Thanks,
Well i think farias wm6 (the real thing) is working awesome and it is so much faster than my mda with wm5. Especially the soft keys and especially the message buttons and internet explorer button on top of the phones. So i highly recommend this rom. And i think you may have a bunk wm6 rom. switch it up to one of the newer ones and you'll see a difference
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Well i think farias wm6 (the real thing) is working awesome and it is so much faster than my mda with wm5. Especially the soft keys and especially the message buttons and internet explorer button on top of the phones. So i highly recommend this rom. And i think you may have a bunk wm6 rom. switch it up to one of the newer ones and you'll see a difference
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At your clock speed no wonder it's going fast.
You'll burn your wizard if you keep it at 299 ...be carefull.
Well i am running Farias rom on my other 8125. I have 2 8125's and 1 MDA. On the one with farias rom it is only overclocked to 260. thats it. Havent really tried anything higher and really dont need to. ITs pretty fast. And Anichillus i have heard some real good stuff about your rom. seriously i had to ponder about which WM6 rom to use. EIther yours or Farias. Its just farias had a couple of programs already included that i needed. But on my next 8125 i will be running Xplore 2. So im looking forward to that one.
299mhz at BatteryStatus is only about 260+mhz in real.
Yeah i think it was about 270 something. somewhere around there
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Yeah i think it was about 270 something. somewhere around there
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Also good for comparing clockspeed is tcpmp. It shows clockspeed
Guys , the BatteryStatus shows the right speed !
Other don't ! How can you trust a program with your CPU if it doesn't even show you right speed ?
How do I know that ? Well , just read clock speed with omap or any other just after flash...it should be 195MHz on a stoc rom ... then contradict me.
I think you're wrong anichillus. We may have 195 mhz omap processor, it runs on 170 mhz in windows though. It is a hardware but software trick.
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I think you're wrong anichillus. We may have 195 mhz omap processor, it runs on 170 mhz in windows though. It is a hardware but software trick.
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Can you share something to support that ? Or it's just an affirmation ?
Related
not sure about you guys...but I am getting confused with all these updates...so i am making a poll here to see which one u guys like best ...in terms of stability / speed / overall performance etc...
Comparing:
Jester Aku 2.2 -b1 8mb page pool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283255)
Jester Aku 2.2 -b1 12mb page pool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283255)
Jester Aku 2.3-b2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283819)
Jester Aku 2.3-b3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283868)
*new* - as of nov22,06
LvsW Aku 2.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283601)
LvsW Aku 2.3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283965)
*new* - as of nov22,06
Original Qtek S200 WWE Aku2.2 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283245)
but Thumps Up for Jester and LvsW and mwiberg for bringing us all these updates!
jester aku2.3
anyone have any info on this, links, what rom its based on etc.
please vote!
vote & review
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please vote!
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I think besides a vote, a mini-review will be helpful.
I'll start with what I have tried:
1) RUU_Prophet_G3_2151327_AKU23_023021_P16MB_PDAMobiz_v2307 (not in this list)
Plenty of extra software. Some useful, some not. A matter of individual preference. Speed overclocked by default, but can easily be reverted. Pretty stable, a minor glitch when opening word files, pword opens and closes. Another tap would then open the file. (could be due to my device and not the ROM itself). Speed is OK, can't really say it's faster than the official 2.15 ROM. My major dislike is the program memory. After installing all my apps such as calligrapher & voice command, I'm left with 14+MB after a soft reset. After opening up more and ore applications, it will go down to 3-4MB very quickly and some of the progs will automatically close. In comparison, this was not so severe when I had the official 2.15 ROM.
2) RUU-Prophet-G3-AKU2.2-2.20-2.47.21-Jester-b1
New OS. Feels faster than the PDAMobiz ROM even though this is standard 12MB pagepool. No extra software. Stable. No issues so far, but I've only been using it for several days now.
Next to try: LvsW Edition: RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721 (AKU2.3)
If anyone like to compile their reviews in this thread, it'll definitely help lots of people.
You should test all of them if you want to get relaiable results. Otherwise people will only choose the ROM they are currently using, whitout ever touching they other ROM's
For this you should create some kind of performance test procedure.
If you can make this reliaable then you might use it as a standard in the PPC world Since I havn't seen any test procedure to test performance of different ROM's.
I've seen benchmark results, but they were compared to WM2003 devices. So you should have one made just for OMap processors. Then you also have the issue between the results and "daily use", like menu speed etc.
Maybe we can set up some kind of procedure here on XDA DEVELOPERS?
Yes i think a benchmark would be excellent...
So-so
I've been confident over the years to rom-cooking and tweaking devices (long live my old hima) but with so many bugs in the Prophet's roms, even the official ones! it's hard to reccommend actually those "beta" versions, each with it's own set of bugs.
Actually we are forced to choose from the set of bugs you can live with! USB not charging, BT Active Sync profile dissapearing, Slooowww performance, undocumented Registry limits, (Contast size for instance) and so on.
So my vote was on the "official" Qtek rom, at least until I can cook my own ROM and have control over what I drop on my Prophet.
Anyway, impressive work from jesterz, lvsw, the pdamobiz guys and the rest of you for giving us all those roms to try and enjoy tweaking, it's somewhat adictive!
i go test lvsw 2.3 it's very good ?
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i go test lvsw 2.3 it's very good ?
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I voted for LvSW 2.3, but I'm actually running one of his earlier versions, with the old RadioRom and ExtRom. Things are pretty stable, if slow. I have a G3 version.
Would it be worth my while to upgrade to the current LVSW 2.3.1? Is there a big radio improvement from 2.19 to 2.47.21? Will there be an upgrade to 2.3.1 to fix the frozen input method problem?
Alan
Hello,
Ok, Im completely confused by now!!! What is the best wm6 room avaiable? Is it based on a final wm6 rom or still beta? Is it usable, does it work? what are the issues?
thanks,
Joao Oliveira.
Joao Oliveira said:
Hello,
Ok, Im completely confused by now!!! What is the best wm6 room avaiable? Is it based on a final wm6 rom or still beta? Is it usable, does it work? what are the issues?
thanks,
Joao Oliveira.
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I think the most stable WM6 rom for Prophet is "Smart1"'s CLEAR rom.
But I can sync with my outlook, I have upgraded to Activesync 4.5 though.
Do I need to upgrade to activesync 4.5 English version? Because I am using Chinese one.
Since at the moment that I have tried there is none that works completely well, they usually have mistakes with the BT, I have returned to WM5 and have put the rom of ASERG AKU3.3 v.12, very good and stable
tiggerbcn said:
Since at the moment that I have tried there is none that works completely well, they usually have mistakes with the BT, I have returned to WM5 and have put the rom of ASERG AKU3.3 v.12, very good and stable
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Same here.. ..a friend of mine has the Most Beautiful ROM running on his Wizard right now. It seems to me that's the best WM6.0 ROM out there at the moment. Disappearing SMS problems are solved etc.
Would be great to see this ROM running on the Prophet
But it should solve:
- IR problems
- Include the charge fix
- SMS storing problem
- BT pairing history
We just have to wait for a willingly and smart Prophet user who can give this a try
So let me get this straight:
1. ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 is currently better than any WM6 ROM currently in this forum (for a Prophet) ??
2. Can someone please show us images comparing WM6 ROMs and AKU ROMs (how they look like) ? please...
thanks
Palpoule said:
So let me get this straight:
1. ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 is currently better than any WM6 ROM currently in this forum (for a Prophet) ??
2. Can someone please show us images comparing WM6 ROMs and AKU ROMs (how they look like) ? please...
thanks
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1. For the Prophet, yes.
2. Look HERE for info about the different AKU's.
And take a look HERE for info about WM6.0.
thx mccune!
i have looked at the differences... it seems that AKU is more stable and everything (since i have installed smart1's WM6 ROM and there are a few unresolved bugs...)
but anyways, i like WM6's appearence way better... and this is what matters more for me hehe
but... im still a bit confused about something... what exactly is AKU ? i mean ... does it have anything to do with microsoft? or is it simply another OS in competition with microsoft's WM ? :S
i can see the widows logo in the AKU's pics... thats y im confused
in other words: Why are there AKU and WM6 roms in this forum ? :S whats the difference ?
thx in advance
It says it all in the link he gave you
"Review of update packs (AKU) for Windows Mobile 5.0""
Looks like AKU is a set of upgrades which Microsoft release, maybe like "service pack" for XP. These include patches and tweaks for the OS.
SO ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 is the old version of Windows Mobile, (WM2005) but with latest updates from Microsoft installed.
Ahh okayzzz...
so AKU is like WM5 SP# and WM6 is... well, WM6
thx
ASERG AKU3.3 v.12 Issues
Recently loaded this rom on my Prophet multiple issues with Rom, Calender is in Russian or something, unit runs really slow, drains batt fast, unable to select notifications from Voice msg and be connected directly to voice mail, running of programs is delayed or crashed.
Know this is the most recent one out there just not sure if it fully functional.
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Recently loaded this rom on my Prophet multiple issues with Rom, Calender is in Russian or something, unit runs really slow, drains batt fast, unable to select notifications from Voice msg and be connected directly to voice mail, running of programs is delayed or crashed.
Know this is the most recent one out there just not sure if it fully functional.
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Why are you so negative about this ROM?
- Calender is in Russian -> Change your region settings
- unit runs really slow -> Never heard off such problem
- drains batt fast -> Maybe your device has been OC-ed using BatteryStatus?
- Other point I don't use, so no comment.
I've tried almost every ROM available for the Prophet and I must say this is one of the best!
To me the best WM6 Rom is the smart1 clear... but it's just a opinion.
Rom Issues
The phone has no Batt issues, untill loaded this rom batt at time runs hot, turning the unit off is inpossible w/out taking the Batt out - the shut down screen only restarts the unit or puts in in standby, attaching the unit w/ a bluetooth - if the unit is actually restarted or shut off does not recall the prev settings - have to re-attach the unit as a new item, Wireless - will not keep WEp keys stored in system, again if re-start unit must re-activate the whole sys & keys, MS Messenger will not log on at not point even re-starting the unit will not work & finally when the rom is initially run not all the programs install have to manually go back in to install application (ex. batt tester, batt charge notification on desktop are some f/ example). To actually speed up the system needed to re-run the rom update 3X not the best thing to have to do. Additional suggestion rom could use a PDF initial install prog. instead of having to install after rom run & set up.
My present rom is aserg's 3.12
Hi guys, I still think that Aserg's 3.12 rom is the best. However, I am waiting too for a good and (more) stable WM6 rom to use the new features. Wm6 stiil has too many problems to fix e.g. not working IR , etc.
I include 3 pics of my current rom with 2 versions of my today screen. Isn't it what someone asked in this thread? If anyone knows a better WM6 rom, please let me know.
now I have a Qtek 9000 too... I´d like to know whats the fastest and more stable wm6?
Thanx a lot!
roms
There is a long topic about your problem, all comment says there is no best rom, there are many roms out there, every one of them has pros and cons. Find one which best suits you.
I personally vote for this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332737
Using it for 1 day now, until now i like it the most. Fast, stable at original resolution, and you will have plenty of program memory. Just be careful with truevga, some apps doesnt support it. Like spb mobile shell's today plugin. If you active the truevga with that today plugin your uni will freeze at every start when it tries to load today. Also had a real bad looking crash with blinking display with truevga 128 dpi.
With original dpi it works like a charm! No crash, no freeze, no slowdown or memory leak.
hello stoto!! thanx for your help! I know nothing about flashing wm6 in universal lol
bye
checked some mio and asus devices they have wm6 classic and did not believed what i saw!
Their response time and overall speed is even not in the same league with wm6.1... wm6 classic responding instantly and works very smooth is there explanation for this?
just curious...
uh oh is that true? that's a shame I'll have to do some research to go back to wm6 from 6.1 then.
Strange, i didn't notice that at all.. might it be microsoft's brain control application?
pmsl....
I didnt notice any difference and i tested the official wwe in its clean state (as much as that can be haha) and didnt see any real difference.
Download advanced config, it will speed things up a little with some playing, save playing with your reg too much!
Hello everyone, I've been searching all these roms but it seems that there isn't one single ROM with manilla. Can I install this on Universal? Tks
Short answer? No.
Long answer? Manilla (aka TouchFlow 3D) requires far too much RAM and processing resources to run properly on our Uni's. The biggest problem is (seems to be?) the lack of decent hardware drivers, since HTC wrote custom ones for the TouchPro, etc.
Of course it's a few months since I even attempted using any of the ports, so things may have changed, though I somehow doubt it.
-PJC
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Short answer? No.
Long answer? Manilla (aka TouchFlow 3D) requires far too much RAM and processing resources to run properly on our Uni's. The biggest problem is (seems to be?) the lack of decent hardware drivers, since HTC wrote custom ones for the TouchPro, etc.
Of course it's a few months since I even attempted using any of the ports, so things may have changed, though I somehow doubt it.
-PJC
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But what about the 2D version?
I had one in my qtek 9090 (which is older than uni) and it ran just fine!
u can use this big-mem ROM by Cotulla: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468776 and install manila2d .. but if u have 64Mb uni, u will be memory low for something more with manila (i got 15-10Mb free with my 64Mb-Uni) .. its work very nice in portal mode.. and its so big, great for in-car use or similar
after install of manila, they will be small, not on full screen.. you must find VGA theme for manila2d .. search on forum
this is easy for install, ask if is problem find .. i think that on 128Mb uni it is will work very nice
//sorry for bad eng, big hello from Serbia
I would recommend to use ThrottleLauncher (just Google for it).
With the TF3D theme and with the Manila WeatherPanel installed it is great and fast (10-15 MB RAM, yes I know, but with a 128 MB Uni it's awesome ). But if you turn on the flash clock you will see, how many resources it needs, and it works only with 2-3 fps. But at least it is very customizable...
That's it,
DOMy