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Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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When you find out, let me know
I managed to "beat" the TMobile 2.26 in benchmark. System speed is similar, but still not the same thing.
What WM6 ROm version did you actually use to compare and how did you compare?
Lots of people here are now using WM6 including myself and I really don't see any issues regarding performance when you compare to WM5.
So, I suggest you to play little more specially with these recently ones like X-plore 1.1, read the benchmarks and see the difference.
vlodeck said:
Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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vlodeck said:
Hello, everyone here say that WM6 is much faster than original WM5 rom. I for one have managed to flash every shipped WM6 rom and what can I say: molski AKU 3.3 WM5 is BY FAR the fastest rom! Why is that?
I've encountered many issues connected with using wm6, like: softkey lag (it takes almost 1 sec. for wizard to proceed the softkey. The screen rotation is also slow.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
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I thought Molski's 3.3 aku was snail paced, 2.3 aku is by far the fastest. superrom1.1 with NO overclocking is faster than every other rom with overclocking! ymmv
Man, I've tried EVERY rom, starting from UNDERGROUND, through MB, and ending on Xplore 1.1
Each rom has the same issue, softkey lag, and slow screen rotation. Maybe it is faster in TCPMP or in whatsoever. Nevertheless, comparing to Molski WM5 or even T-mobile 2.26 - WM5 is much faster !
When talking of speed why don´t we share sktools benchmarks with and without overclocking to each ROM without any software. Just after hardreset, tweaks, and sktools.
Let´s start to compare??
BTW the overclocking speed that TCPMP shows is more specific than to compare batterystatus vs. omapclock.
Btw. after anichillus will be ready with Xplore 2.0 this discussion will end - because I believe him to create the fastest.
yea xplore 2.0 will be the tits
It would be a neat thing to compare all these roms. One added complexity is that many of the custom roms are by default overclocked, so they would need to be manually throttled down for the comparison to be fair. (For example, supperrom 1.1 is by default overclocked to 252 mhz, Molski's has both smartskey and battery status installed, but I don't remember the default settings.) In addition, filecache and sd cache settings can greatly affect reported sd read speeds. Also, I'm not sure how the benchmarks compare with "real world" speed, but its the best we have for now.
Have fun!
1. Xplore 1.1 (taken from thread) 195Mhz (BS)
2. XPlore 2.0 (early stadium) (taken from thread) 195mhz
Poppamops, a favor...
Since you're running the new x-plore, could you check the following registry values?
HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>MMC_Class:
BlockTransferSize
HKLM>Drivers>SDCARD>ClientDrivers>Class>SDMemory_C lass:
BlockTransferSize
HKLM>System>StorageManager>FATFS:
CacheSize
HKLM>System>StorageManager>Filters>freplxfilt:
ReplStoreCacheSize
I've found these tweaks will increase the reported SD read rate greatly.
Thanks,
Well i think farias wm6 (the real thing) is working awesome and it is so much faster than my mda with wm5. Especially the soft keys and especially the message buttons and internet explorer button on top of the phones. So i highly recommend this rom. And i think you may have a bunk wm6 rom. switch it up to one of the newer ones and you'll see a difference
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Well i think farias wm6 (the real thing) is working awesome and it is so much faster than my mda with wm5. Especially the soft keys and especially the message buttons and internet explorer button on top of the phones. So i highly recommend this rom. And i think you may have a bunk wm6 rom. switch it up to one of the newer ones and you'll see a difference
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At your clock speed no wonder it's going fast.
You'll burn your wizard if you keep it at 299 ...be carefull.
Well i am running Farias rom on my other 8125. I have 2 8125's and 1 MDA. On the one with farias rom it is only overclocked to 260. thats it. Havent really tried anything higher and really dont need to. ITs pretty fast. And Anichillus i have heard some real good stuff about your rom. seriously i had to ponder about which WM6 rom to use. EIther yours or Farias. Its just farias had a couple of programs already included that i needed. But on my next 8125 i will be running Xplore 2. So im looking forward to that one.
299mhz at BatteryStatus is only about 260+mhz in real.
Yeah i think it was about 270 something. somewhere around there
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Yeah i think it was about 270 something. somewhere around there
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Also good for comparing clockspeed is tcpmp. It shows clockspeed
Guys , the BatteryStatus shows the right speed !
Other don't ! How can you trust a program with your CPU if it doesn't even show you right speed ?
How do I know that ? Well , just read clock speed with omap or any other just after flash...it should be 195MHz on a stoc rom ... then contradict me.
I think you're wrong anichillus. We may have 195 mhz omap processor, it runs on 170 mhz in windows though. It is a hardware but software trick.
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I think you're wrong anichillus. We may have 195 mhz omap processor, it runs on 170 mhz in windows though. It is a hardware but software trick.
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Can you share something to support that ? Or it's just an affirmation ?
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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I agree with you to some extent.
In my opinion wm5 is much stable and made for the universal device that we all have.
Wm6 is not compatible and a beta app. Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
Also its like driving hard to make wm6 perfect , which will never happen.
Its just like using a car and trying to put in a engine that is not compatible.
So I think uni devices is directly proportional to wm5. Period!
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
Like I've said before - this is a forum for developers\hackers\tweakers, if you want a perfect ROM - look to your manufacturer. If you want to have some fun with your Universal (and void its warranty) then look no further!
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What he said
ditto ditto
DaVince said:
I've tried quite a few of the WM6 ROMS (The only ones I haven't tried was Ivan's and Darkforce's). But I always see myself going back to WM5 (mostly because I miss video calling). Is it just me? or is there something about WM6 that I'm not seeing? This question is much like Windows XP vs Windows Vista... I just couldn't see any reason to use Vista.
Anyone kind enough to site the major differences or advantages between the two? (except for aesthetics, of course)
I know I could just google for comparison charts or something.. but I prefer various "user opinions" So please don't point me here: WM5 vs WM6 chart... besides, it's not very accurate since most cooked WM5 ROMS does have a few added features.
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There are a couple of apps that I find very useful, the new RDP client is much better & I use that a lot, Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move. The upgrade to the Office apps to support Office 2007 documents will help people who move to Off2007, but even though I use it I still save my files in Off2003 format so that the rest of the world can read them.
Apart from that I am sticking with WM5 for now because I need something that works more reliably.
I have reverted back to WM5 just after using the WM6 on universal for ~1h everytime. Reason: Its slow as compared to WM5(yeah, ironic ) and few unfixed bugs
But, what I love about WM6..
1)progress bar in Office apps. I love it when it shows the progress while opeing my big word document containing plethora of pics.
2)no 'unidentified driver' problem: many of us were getting this problem under wm5. I didn't experience it under wm6 under that 1h span though (my solution to that problem in WM5: as long as you use wisbar advance2, you will NEVER experience that problem)
3)glossy looks (though I still prefer wisbar advance)(see the screenshot attatched)
4)better phone integration
On the other hand, I m using WM6 on my wizard and its perfect
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Well, I don't want to switch back to WM5. Mainly for those reasons:
1/ I don't use video Calling because NO ONE from my about 700 contacts has video calling capabilites (that's Germany ;-)
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
4/ (I know you don't want to read it ;-) The nicer looking
5/ My Universal is much faster with WM6 (not with all releases though) as with the original WM5 ROMs.
6/ The Original T-Mobile WM5 ROM is UGLY AS HELL ;-)
7/ I forgot: The Call-List in the corresponding Contact is another great Feature
If I can think of anything more, I'll tell you
I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
TehPenguin said:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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I too have been used such reasoning. Unfortunately after a while I came to the realisation that it was a false hope and went back to WM5.
That said, one reason to use WM6 is that the contacts app can query the DirectPush active directory to get Exchange contact details.
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I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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same here. german wm5 is unusable, slow as hell and buggy.
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
Ogier said:
Hi,
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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REALLY??? Can you please give us more details as how you manage that? Links are good too.
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
Here, the official WM5 release is AKU2, which is so slow that you can zZzZz.
For Cooked ROM, WM5 is up to AKU3.5 which is the one I am using, is with Video Call and fast.
WM6 still does not have video call, but there is a beta VideoCall cab which you can try, some works, some doesn't.
WM6 speed compare to WM5 AKU3.5, speed difference is marginal, but both are definitely faster than WM5 AKU1 & WM AKU2. But for WM6 to be slower than WM5, hmmm, how could this possible.
german t-mobile wm5 rom is quite unstable and unreliable. Some programs doesn't work at all on t-mobile wm5 roms (like cLaunch - ok, I know stupid example because cLaunch doesn't support vga resolutions at all... but it was the first application that came to my mind )
I'm satisfied with the functionality of wm6 roms. there is just one thing I don't like about it - how can I change the keyboard layout of an english rom? I would like to have an english rom but with the layout of a german keyboard - any ideas how to do that?
Ogier said:
Hi,
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network) but use it on our "3" network and I didn't want to install the 3 Dopod ROM.
I did remove the Telstra customisations, but then lost Video call.
With LVSW's ROM, I now have video call back - Why do you say you don't have video calls in WM6????
I like to play with devices too!
Benifits so far (48 hours use) no freezes, a little faster, nicer looking & navigation plus there's a few new options but I'm not sure if they are useful to me.
Bad points - less memory storage & everyone at work is asking me about WM6!
Cheers! Oggy.
p.s. look further at video calls - it works for me!
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One problem with that - we have the I-Mate JasJar not the JasJam
Not meaning to flame, but as clarification:
I-Mate JasJam - - - - - I-Mate JasJar
Dopod 838Pro - - - - - Dopod 900
O2 Xda Trion - - - - - - O2 Exec
HTC Hermes - - - - - - HTC Universal
So, your WM6 ROM is different to ours
(How do I know the above? Well, I work for 3 in Australia.... )
hello,
I'm using Wm6 beta rom for testing exchange 2007 improvement with this os and there a lot of new features !!
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
aniel1 said:
Video call is part of the hardware and with wm6 , in-directly we have terminated that, in other words the world moves towards 3G/umts and we have made our devices fall back to 2G with wm6 crossbow which doesnot have video call.
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If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
TehPenguin said:
The reason I use WM6 over WM5 is this:
I love tweaking and messing around with my Universal
I'm not afraid of "bricking" it or having to reflash\loose data
I am hoping (sometimes I think, its a false hope...) that a WM6 ROM will be superior to my old WM5 one
Why the hell not?
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Hehe! Me too..
cottinghamm said:
Internet Sharing is a great tool for connecting to the Internet from my laptop on the move.
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This is also available for the WM5 (AKU3.3 and later) right?
NiTeSHiFT said:
2/ The new RDP-Client is REALLY great and I use it often to connect to my Server
3/ The Messaging features like "instant search" is for me one of the most important, as I use the universal to write about 20 eMails per Day and take notes when i'm at my customers.
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2. Terminal Services can also do this right? though i don't really use it so I wouldn't know if it's better.
3. Oh yeah.. love that too.. way easier than scrolling through messages...
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I find WM6 faster and - unlike some posters - much MUCH more stable.
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Maybe you were using an old WM5. You must try WM5 AKU3.5 or WM5 AKU3.5.
Ogier said:
I'm using WM6 (LVSW's ROM 2007-05-19) at the moment, mainly because I bought an Imate JasJam (Australian Telstra network)
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We have Universals my friend, we are on the Universal thread. You have a Hermes...
CWKJ said:
WM5? Which AKU you are you talking about?
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AKU3.3 and 3.5. The older ones are way too slow and crappy.
fla242 said:
like html mail format, Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management ...
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Ah yes.. html mail format... very nice too. uhmm.. would you care to elaborate about Simplified Administration, Increased Monitoring and Flexible Policy Management? Thanks...
DaVince said:
If only there's video call on WM6.. i would stick to it... video calling is quite popular here.. my girlfriend has a 3G fone... so video calling is very important for me.
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How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
cktlcmd said:
How popular is the Universal in Manila? Just curious...
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Not very popular. Probably not more than 25 people owns a Universal in Manila.. and only 3-4 of them (including me) actually bothers to flash their ROMS since they're too scared..
85% of cellphone users here use Nokia since Nokia devices (particularly the N series) have good 3G support. Most PPC devices seen here would be the Atom, XDA II/i, and Dopod 838 Pro.
3G is very good here.. and the reason I bought a Universal is because during the time I bought this (early 2006), this was the first PPC available that supports video calling... So please somebody make video calling work on WM6.. :beg:
Thinking about a change in form factor and trying out the Vox but I'd like to hear some experiences of anyone who went from Hermes/touchscreen to smartphone format.
I'd love to wait for the rumored 'wings' S730 but not sure that will ever see daylight.
I had the TyTN via my employer for a few months, but had to return it when I left that job. Got a S710 and I actually like that more than the tytn. I thought I would miss the touch screen but the vox is so easy to navigate that it's no problem.
rgards Björn
i have both the TyTN (cingular 8525) and the Vox in my hands.
I had the TyTN first as a replacement for my treo 600.
The TyTN is a wonderful device, but a bit too much for what I use it for (I dont even use data, so 3G doesn't matter to me). I mostly use WiFi for the occasional browse.
The TyTN definitely has a larger customization factor, which i miss with the Vox.
I thought speed would be a definite difference, but if you use OmapClock to ~250Mhz, it's a significant increase in performance.
Video playback works real nicely with TCPMP on the Vox too. Some video's i don't even need to convert. It may not be as powerful as the TyTN, but it's sufficient for my needs.
I like the Vox formfactor a bit better. The slider is much more secure, and the numeric keypad is something i missed on the TyTN.
Sometimes i catch myself tapping the Vox, forgetting there isn't a touchscreen, but the menu's and programs are very smartphone friendly, and I haven't had any problems navigating menu's as yet.
and for some reason, the screen on the Vox seems a bit nicer than on the TyTN. could be because the TyTN has the same resolution, but larger size, so it doesn't look as sharp.
i'm keeping the Vox, anyone want a TyTN?
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i have both the TyTN (cingular 8525) and the Vox in my hands.
I had the TyTN first as a replacement for my treo 600.
The TyTN is a wonderful device, but a bit too much for what I use it for (I dont even use data, so 3G doesn't matter to me). I mostly use WiFi for the occasional browse.
The TyTN definitely has a larger customization factor, which i miss with the Vox.
I thought speed would be a definite difference, but if you use OmapClock to ~250Mhz, it's a significant increase in performance.
Video playback works real nicely with TCPMP on the Vox too. Some video's i don't even need to convert. It may not be as powerful as the TyTN, but it's sufficient for my needs.
I like the Vox formfactor a bit better. The slider is much more secure, and the numeric keypad is something i missed on the TyTN.
Sometimes i catch myself tapping the Vox, forgetting there isn't a touchscreen, but the menu's and programs are very smartphone friendly, and I haven't had any problems navigating menu's as yet.
and for some reason, the screen on the Vox seems a bit nicer than on the TyTN. could be because the TyTN has the same resolution, but larger size, so it doesn't look as sharp.
i'm keeping the Vox, anyone want a TyTN?
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How does it compare, size wise, to the Hermes?
the tytn is a giant compared to it
its much lighter than the tytn, i barely notice it on my waist holster
about 1cm shorter and 1.5cm slimmer
about the same thickness though
i can take some pictures when i get home
I had both a Wizard and a Tytn before I bought this device.
Those are more of PDAs that can be used for phones calls.
This is more of a PHONE that can be used from some PDA functions.
I see the Hermes and Vox in 2 totally different categorys.
BUT
I do miss touch screen, and I miss the SPEED...
My vox seems really SLOW AND LAGGING! Does anyone else have this problem????? Is there some fix i need to add or a certain ROM I need to install to make the run smoother??
The complaints I have about this device is its performance! I also find it is alot harder to type with a substanitally smaller keyboard. As well, WHY DOES IT SLIDE OUT "THE WRONG WAY"????? And no flashlight for the camera.
use OMAPCLOCK to overclock the vox
i notice a substantial difference, especially when switching apps and playing videos, and landscape switch is faster too
and if you notice it lagging still, go to task manager and see what you have open
one thing about the tytn i liked is the ability actually CLOSE programs and free up ram, not have them suspended
anitanium said:
use OMAPCLOCK to overclock the vox
i notice a substantial difference, especially when switching apps and playing videos, and landscape switch is faster too
and if you notice it lagging still, go to task manager and see what you have open
one thing about the tytn i liked is the ability actually CLOSE programs and free up ram, not have them suspended
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No X-Button for WM6 Standard?
i switched from tytn to s710 too. only missing voice command DE on my vox, since ist is only avalible in english for smartphones.
S710 is more compact and better to use, due the normal phone keys. i like it more. the only bad thing is the 200 mhz cpu, which is not the fastest...
the battery lifetime is much better, even with data and bt switched on. I use data to sync my exchange 24/7
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I got my Vox a few days ago
Size difference between Vox and TyTn is like a Poodle compared to a Great Dane - huge difference. I'd never carry my TyTn in my pocket but I do my Vox easily.
Speed is a huge problem with my Vox but I will try to overclock.
Fiddle Factor - pain in the but but kinda fun changing the Home screen .xml files so you can get it the way you want it -- I had to modify to get GoodLink stuff while keeping PhoneAlarm running.
WiFi worked well at first glance - for some reason I had more trouble with my TyTN.
Many programs (that probably would be fine since I often don't use the touch screen) won't install on the Vox. Does anyone know how to easily "force" a PocketPC program on a Smartphone ?? (I haven't exhaustively searched that question so just ignore if the answer is obvious).
I'll keep you posted on my first week of use. I'll keep my TyTn in my briefcase.
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No X-Button for WM6 Standard?
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Hello everyone, I'm an 1-week-vox owner.
Generally speaking I like the device very much, altough I am having some difficulties adapting from palm to WM6, and I must say I am a bit disappointed with WM6, namelly it is very slow and, something I found soooo odd and (sorry for sincerity) stupid: programs don't actually close/terminate when I close them (????).
So I have been searching the web for a program that would compensate that flaw (I consider it a flaw, at least the user should be given the option to configure the close button) and have tried:
magic Button
InClose
smClose
Running Programs 1
And, last but not least, HTC x-button.
None of these work on my s710, I guess it is because s710 is a smartphone and all those programs where designed for PPC.
Is there somewhere a WM6 for smartphone compatible program that makes the red-key actually close the programs? I don't need a task manager, just a simple, small app.
Thanks everyone
Just gave wm6.1 a spin.....and what can i say
PROS:
- threaded sms
- easier exchange server configuring (auto configures)
- quicker, and seems stable as of now
- solves the password screen locking the start menu bar bug
CONS:
- nothing new or different on the today screen
- nothing visually different
- same old applications, same old interface, same old same old
- its just the same old wm6 people, so, if you by chance felt like your life was coming to an end and you were waiting for wm6.1 to make it on your unis and once again get your juices flowing.....forget it.
- a2dp support seems like its missing!
- "Use High resolution" in internet explorer no longer there
- its highly frustrating to see MS drop in the "Task manager" application from their smartphone OS and market it as an "improvement".....grrr
- a sad "Getting Started" today plugin.....please, someone give me a break!
Anyway, life goes on, the same old sorry way......photon? android? hmph....
San
dreamtheater39 said:
Just gave wm6.1 a spin.....and what can i say
PROS:
- threaded sms
- easier exchange server configuring (auto configures)
- quicker, and seems stable as of now
- solves the password screen locking the start menu bar bug
CONS:
- nothing new or different on the today screen
- nothing visually different
- same old applications, same old interface, same old same old
- its just the same old wm6 people, so, if you by chance felt like your life was coming to an end and you were waiting for wm6.1 to make it on your unis and once again get your juices flowing.....forget it.
- a2dp support seems like its missing!
- "Use High resolution" in internet explorer no longer there
- its highly frustrating to see MS drop in the "Task manager" application from their smartphone OS and market it as an "improvement".....grrr
- a sad "Getting Started" today plugin.....please, someone give me a break!
Anyway, life goes on, the same old sorry way......photon? android? hmph....
San
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tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
no kidding.. even with less things.
i can confirm a2dp isnt working eother and internet explorer high resolution isnt even there ..
the wm5 latest tmobile rom has these!!
i give them one thing though, it is snappy and seems stable so far.
seems they increased the card cache size since when you start a song in media player it starts skipping and stuttering.. well that can always be fixed later.
Hmmmm, are we talking here about the real WM6.1 or the PDAViet build ported to Universal?
The cons/limitations are probably porting problems, at the moment the few who can confirm these are midget_1990 & mamaich. Besides, WM6.1 is not probably meant to be a version upgrade but a release update (i.e. SP2 in XP). I don't know too!
Where can I fing WM6.1?
6.1 is just an update not upgrade.
What I can say is this is a build ported from a QVGA device to a VGA device.
Now pls wait for our gurus to release a complete built.
I can run a2dp perfectly, it is just a matter of porting only.
We see here now lot's of build coming..just b patient for the same
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tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
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Well, as MS screwed up on Photon release which was to be somewhere during 2008....and because google gave them a freak-surprise with Android....MS suddenly commited for a WM6.1 release.
I thought WM6.1 will be atleast a few features intended to go into Photon to keep Windows Mobile alive against upcoming competition (Android based phones scheduled to hit somewhere in Q3).
But turns out that Wm6.1 is just the same stuff....like you said, an sp1 release!
The least i expected was a changed today screen with a new interface which i kept reading about on so many forums....turns out people mistook this from the smartphone version they saw....
Anyways, cheers guys, trying to be happy with what we've got!!
Cant wait for the **actual** roms to start coming out from all our rom gurus out here....
Cheers!
San
The rom circulating over the forum these hours is a fake.
fake or not?
Midget_1990 said:
tbh what did you expect?
This of the change as akin to winxp vanilla and sp1 not winxp and vista.
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There is some people said this version is a fake what do you think Midget_1990 i know we can trust in you.
ranju and Mo3ulla verified that this rom is fake
I havent seen/used the one you speak of, i can assure you thought that i do ahve a copy of legit 6.1 made for vga and not ported.
waiting after you
hello Midget_1990
i wait a Midget_1990 ROM for the 6.1 it s more sure.
said us when you can make one ROM Mister Midget_1990 the first ROM with vga for the universal remeber me a good Remembrance.
sorry for my bad english
a little frenchi
Win_XP said:
ranju and Mo3ulla verified that this rom is fake
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Hi Win_XP, my take on the fake issue HERE!
Hopefully Midget will fix the situation with disconnecting SD cards.... I'm not the one who had this problem when usual SD card 2gb is disconnected on no reasons and you have to slide out/in to get it worked...
catch-22 said:
Hi Win_XP, my take on the fake issue HERE!
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This ROM is the fastest and the only one that doesn't have problems in its functions, never freeze and the most reliable one. I'm using it with old 1.09 RADIO ROM and battery is the same like having WM5.
You can try to argue everything, but this is really example of complete ROM.
Thanks PDAVIET.
rilazi said:
This ROM is the fastest and the only one that doesn't have problems in its functions, never freeze and the most reliable one. I'm using it with old 1.09 RADIO ROM and battery is the same like having WM5.
You can try to argue everything, but this is really example of complete ROM.
Thanks PDAVIET.
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Have you read the link I've given? Did I say what you think I said? Can you read?
I was the one telling you guys that it's not fair to say that it is fake! Read first before you judge!
Hey Guys,
I know that this has been discussed a hundred times .
But let me at first explain:
This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.
So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.
So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
Best regards,
Matthias
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And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
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Not me ...........................
That being said, here is the latest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458116
Maeffjus said:
Hey Guys,
I know that this has been discussed a hundred times .
But let me at first explain:
This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.
So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.
So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.
Best regards,
Matthias
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there are already tf3d roms and if your looking for one that will work flawlessly on our kaisers, not gonna happen.
Leo (L26) made a decent rom L26_KaiserTouch_V4_M3D that actually encompasses TF3d. I have not tried the others but I do love his rom even though it is not as smooth.
I wonder how it will work with 6.5 drivers. I'm going to take a shot at cooking it into josh's rom for you. We'll see how this goes.
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related
What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:
1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)
Optional but highly welcome: German Language
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)
I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.
Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!
Maeffjus said:
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related
What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:
1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)
Optional but highly welcome: German Language
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)
I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.
Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!
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Yes it can run smoothely'ish the problem encountered is lack of driver to be able to sleep device in the correct manor.
But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?
Q: Whenever I try and put the device into sleep mode, it powers off instead?
A: Try disabling the today time-out. Also, make sure you installed the standby CAB right.
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Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...
Maeffjus said:
But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?
Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...
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No there are work arounds but no real fix
Im still TF3D fan, but after many bug and slow on my Kaiser, i have to move on.. if somebody create or develop ROM with it, i will give a try..
With that standby fix Touchflo3d is disabled automatically before sleep mode. Biggest problem for me was that when the device wakes up it needs to launch touchflo again and that process was kinda slow. Sometimes it just get stuck and needed softreset.
Still, I would be curious to see how smooth tf3d would be cooked in with newest builds and drivers...Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.
Whatever ;-) ...
Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.
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I don't mind if there is a super-ram-hack or what else, in my opinion it should WORK
Also I think that all of you shall take a look in your money-bag if there is a possibility to make it a little more lucrative to work on such a rom.
As I also stated out that I will pay my full bounty only if it is able to run on latetest state of development - that means not that the chef has to develop touchflo3d once again but without bugs ;-) it means only that it should be able to run as good as possible at the moment.
But as I read yesterday evening, I saw that there are maybe two possibilities to get rid of the standby bug, but - forgive me - if did not looked detailed at these solutions - so I don't know how these work but maybe one of them is working better?
And when I'm right - all the roms with TF3D cooked in are with an earlier driver-version. The younger versions of the driver have improved, if I understood the development news made in the dev. and hack. section.
The TF3D-cooked-in-rom-threads are nearly all dated arround december '08 - and I read a lot of them
Maeffjus said:
Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
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I am not saying that if you posted a working TF3d rom that no one would flash it, I would. But what is the effort /reward ?
What about it would make it better than my M2D rom ? Or anyone's 6.5 rom.
Enough great chefs put more than enough time into it, and could not get adequate drivers to make it smooth enough to keep as an everyday rom nor could they get by the stand by problem.
TF3D is M2D with some nice 3D touches that is all, am I missing something ? Is it head and shoulders above M2D or Neo Titanium, I don't think so. Which is why no one really cares to put in all the effort to make it work , nor is anyone really willing to spend any funds to make it work.
I am not being a contrarian or a nay sayer just for arguement sake, really With M$ coming out with cHome and Titanium, SPB out with MS 3, HTC coming out with Sense, there is a reason why people took porting TF3D as far as they could and then lost interest.
O.K. 0,5 Points for you
But I think that Sense is only for Andoid? Correct me if I'm doing wrong...
My problem is, that my Kaiser (and i think all others too) have not such a good touch screen accuracy... mine is terrible.
(yes, I cleaned out the frame and the edges...but on my bosses Kaiser the screen accuracy is also bad! - Compared to my - slow but accurate - P4350).
In my opinion the touchflo concept is one of the best solutions ever developed. But for me in person TF3D would be a nice looking (and little improved) upgrade. I'm already using M2D and I like it, but what I also like very much is for example the animated weather and the improved look and feel.
I have also tried 6.5 but with the terrible accuracy of my screen it is not so funny to use.. also it is not running such smooth as M2D and I in person think titanium is not everyones favourite choice. What i also do not like is the Honeycomb-Style... looks nice, but thats all.. O.k. the kinetic scrolling is good and thats one thing I like . But thats the only improvement I could see at WM6.5.
So whats your opinion: Is a rom with newest drivers and so on not for everydays use capable due to a lot of buggy functions? (I dont't know - I never used one ).
If I remember right, all the legendary cooks have tired TF3D and it doesnt work as it is supposed in Kaiser. Kaiser is just not made for TF3D. TF3D is more resource hungry, and our device just cant handle it.
I do believe there is a cab for TF3D available! Take a good lite 6.5 ROM with memory hack, and load it with TF3D, you will see if it will be able to handle it or not.
I had it working kinda decent with 6.5...just kept throwing drivers at it until i found a decent setup. But i was just wanting to see how it would be like you. When i get home i will look if i still have the file and send it to you. I cant even remember what all i had with it though lol. But like everyone has said its still slow with the newest drivers and such.
I cant find the file....but i will work on it this weekend.
Here is one that I had downloaded when the TF3D thread was alive. This does not have standby in it. So if you want to turn off your phone, then you need to find a stanby fix by somebody!
Hmm in my first post is another source for the TF3D, which has bigger files - there you'll find also the Audio Manager etc.
Has this thread died ?