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TREO 750v - VOICE (Phone Call) while TETHERING to PC/MAC (Dial-up Networking BT/USB)

Anyone know how to be able to Talk on the Phone (Using Voice) while tethering to a PC / Mac , I know I can talk on the phone while using PIE and other internet based applications on the Treo, but NOT WHEN I HAVE IT TETHERED via Dial-up Networking (either via Bluetooth or USB). Basically I have tried both, and am using a MacBook Pro, and successfully tethered to the internet through both BT and USB but it HANGS UP if I make a call (and I presume it hangs up when I receive a call), but either way it does not treat the TETHERING the same as using INTERNET on the Treo, is this just some Registry entry thats causing the problem or something?
Please help I have been trying 10098098034298 things to get it to work; however I only have a VERY limited knowledge of Windows Mobile 5.0 and am pretty useless. If someone could even just give me insight on what settings or registry entry(ies) deal with this I could play around with it an post any results once I stumble upon them...
Thank you so much in advance!!!!!!!!!

It all depends on the network connection you have.
GSM/GPRS doesnt support Voice and Data where UMTS does.
Make sure that you have a 3G connection.

Yes I do have a 3G connection, this same thing (Tethering when using Voice) works on my LG CU500 flawlessly both when using USB and BLUETOOTH to tether, no drop in speeds and voice is crystal clear.
Not sure if its the way in which I am dialing up or something, or if its some bug in the 750. let me know if you guys can helop. [email protected]!
doedoe said:
It all depends on the network connection you have.
GSM/GPRS doesnt support Voice and Data where UMTS does.
Make sure that you have a 3G connection.
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Go to Menu>Preferences>Phone Settings and select the Services tab. Select the band selection and make sure to turn off auto and bind to UMTS only. If you are in auto and connected to GSM network and try to place a call while connected to DUN, thte call should suspend for a total of 13 minutes before disconnecting. If you are selected to strict UMTS then you should be OK for DUN and voice.

T-Mobile Dash Bluetooth Modem Mac

When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.

joshstte said:
When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.
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The Dash has AKU3, which means it lacks BT DUN and only has BT PAN. This is why you don't see DUN, unlike with pre-AKU3 devices.
I'll publish a big article on all these questions in a few hours, where I explain all these questions in detail. Stay tuned!

Menneisyys
Is there a way to get a Tmobile dash paired with a G4 Mac Powerbook?
I want to access the internet on my powerbook via my Dash.
I see in your reply above you were going to write an article on this. I've not found out how to get this to work.
thanks for any help
John

I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.

hatoncat said:
I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.
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Let's all hope the Widcomm BT hack will some day also have DUN support, even under AKU3+. See the Hermes / Wizard forums for more info on the hack.

DUN / PAN Problems with OSX
I know OSX doesn't support PAN, but check this site out --> http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007194/blackjack_mac_connection
It's a write up on how to get the Samsung BlackJack working with OSX, BlackJack I believe also use PAN.
I tried it, but wasn't able to get it to work. I have to leave the office right now, so maybe someone else might have better luck than I do.
-kz

working with p3600
It seems working with a P3600 using the new network sharing feature with the USB Cable! The mac sees a ethernet port (with ip already asigned by p3600)under systempreferences>network.
I donnu if its because i have missing sync (demo) installed that that connection just comes up...
cheers..

Update: Working on MBP CoreDuo...
I've got the dash, and I set it and my macbook pro to be discoverable, went thru the wizard on the mac side which found no usable services, then enabled the "internet sharing" app on my dash, and immediately selected the "join network with tmobile43" option on the bluetooth menu on my mac, and volia! i'm typing this to you via this connection.
Solid! Now if only bluetooth charged the battery

tmobile dash bluetooth modem problem
Ok this is wat i have to say i have a macbook and when i go to bluetooth setting it says in can use the kind of network interface that ur powerbook doesnt support and the reason ur powerbook doesnt support it is either u need to upgrade ur airport card or mabye upgrade to leopard like i did or do both because im running my macbook with the 802.11n wireless and bluetooth card and with 10.5 so that might be a solution to ur problem and i also know that u should upgrade to a macbook or a macbook pro if u want excelent peformance or heavily upgrade ur powerbook g4 and anyway wat are the specs on ur powerbook??
(macbook white 2.0 ghz 80gb hd and 2 gigs of ram)

sorry i put in powerbook for some reason i meant to say wat mac do u have

It seems to me that OS X (Leopard at least) wants to use the Network Access Point Bluetooth profile with Bluetooth PAN. I got it working with WM6.1 but I had to change Bluetooth PAN from PANU to NAT.
See ]Fixing 0803xx Bluetooth PAN on OS X 10.5.
NOTE: The thread number has changed from 382057(broken) to 373138 or go directly to the post.
UPDATE: Apparently the threads have been renumbered... or at least the thread with my post in it has changed... here's the link to the post: 2080487

Internet Connection Sharing over WiFi

I desperately need to get ICS over WiFi working. I've tried WMWiFiRouter, but it either keeps giving me 'Fatal Error' or the connection drops off the moment the PC connects to it. I've also tried ICSControl.exe, a program that someone on XDA has created, but I just couldn't figure out how to get things going with that (or I'm too dumb).
Could someone please tell me the easiest way to get my data connection working on my laptop over Wifi? I'm using Raphael with the stock rom.
Cheers

its built in i think in the commanager last option. but it is set to bluetooth pan standard if i am correct.
you can try use advanced config 3.1 and goto data connections.. change private interface for internet sharing to wlan.

i was surprised to see Advanced Config had the option there. But it still doesn't work
I changed the private interface from the default of 'Custom' to WLAN11g1 and it asks me to soft-reset the device, which i did. Then I go into Internet Sharing, and I still only get 'USB' or 'Bluetooth PAN' as options. Am i missing something?

there is another wlan option in there.
i have no idea how this is supposed to work :/
one would think that setting this option would set the setting to wlan as supposed to. not sure if you should change it or not afterwards with the connectionsharingsettingstab. it probably overwrites the value in registry.
here is something you can try :
turn on wifi
set the option in adv config to TnetWln1
reset
turn on this wifi AP application and try using it

WMwifiRouter
Just tried WMwifiRouter on my Touch Pro and it worked fine

Works fine for me too. Takes all the hassle out of it!

adityasen said:
I desperately need to get ICS over WiFi working. I've tried WMWiFiRouter, but it either keeps giving me 'Fatal Error' or the connection drops off the moment the PC connects to it. I've also tried ICSControl.exe, a program that someone on XDA has created, but I just couldn't figure out how to get things going with that (or I'm too dumb).
Could someone please tell me the easiest way to get my data connection working on my laptop over Wifi? I'm using Raphael with the stock rom.
Cheers
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2 questions:
1) Which network are you with? If your connection works but stops when you get ICS to try to connect, it may be blocked by your network if a) you are not allowed to use your mobile as a modem and/or b) ICS is not allowed. Does your connection work with standard email/web?
2) Why sharing your connection over wifi when BT pan works so well and so easily and you only need to share with your laptop? I use wifi when the laptop can connect directly to a router/hotspot, otherwise I use BT Pan. There is no real speed compromise as the bottleneck is the 3G connection itself), and BT 2.0 EDR offers a wide enough bandwidth for what you want to do. I use skype on my laptop with my 3G connection shared over BT PAN and it works a treat (that is, better than Skype 2.2 on WM!).
I'm probably missing something....

Manni01 said:
2 questions:
1) Which network are you with? If your connection works but stops when you get ICS to try to connect, it may be blocked by your network if a) you are not allowed to use your mobile as a modem and/or b) ICS is not allowed. Does your connection work with standard email/web?
2) Why sharing your connection over wifi when BT pan works so well and so easily and you only need to share with your laptop? I use wifi when the laptop can connect directly to a router/hotspot, otherwise I use BT Pan. There is no real speed compromise as the bottleneck is the 3G connection itself), and BT 2.0 EDR offers a wide enough bandwidth for what you want to do. I use skype on my laptop with my 3G connection shared over BT PAN and it works a treat (that is, better than Skype 2.2 on WM!).
I'm probably missing something....
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ICS has nothing to do with your carrier. It works the same way on your phone as it does on the pc. it merely routes the gateway to the devices connected to the ICS network.
I myself have a TP and use ICS with Softbank (softbank roms do not contain ICS) and it works fine.
I agree with you however, when it comes to bluetooth. Even if your PC doesnt have BT, it is well worth it to buy one of those nifty mini adapters.
they are so tiny, you wont even see them. But easy to setup and fast enough.

im with 3. nomal mail / web works fine. there are no restrictions by the network for ics. as for the BT question, I dont have BT on my laptop. it has built in wifi and i want to use that. i also have a mac n have never managed 2 get BT PAN working with os x.

Can't get BT pan to work with Vista either. My laptop does not "find" the HTC Touch pro as a pan enabled phone.

latest version works ok
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the latest version is 1.10 not 0.94. have tried it with not much luck

adityasen said:
the latest version is 1.10 not 0.94. have tried it with not much luck
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its 0.91...
you are sure we are talking about the same application ?
there is also one from htc which isnt a wifirouter program actually

da_jojo said:
its 0.91...
you are sure we are talking about the same application ?
there is also one from htc which isnt a wifirouter program actually
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Version 0.91 is the last "free" version of the program. It is no longer free and it's version number has changed as well, version 1.11 is the latest.

henkreyn said:
Can't get BT pan to work with Vista either. My laptop does not "find" the HTC Touch pro as a pan enabled phone.
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First make sure you have no active BT connection, either on your desktop/laptop or on the TP (i.e. BT Headset).
You need to go to Comm Manager (BT switched on of course!), select BT Options (lower right menu), Mode, and select "make this device visible to other devices".
Once you've setup a partnership, it will probably say "connection denied" on the first connection.
Don't be as dumb as me, got to internet sharing (all programs) and select BT Pan and Connect... Then try to connect BT Pan again...
It *should* work (works a treat on my Vista 32 desktop and my Sony TZ11 Laptop, I get around 400-500kbps down and a bit less up).

BT PAN
I followed your directions exactly, but the problem remains. I get however once the phone pairs with the laptop (HP tx2000) a request for the "Bluetooth peripheral device" driver. I can't find this driver so it has probably something to do with this.

Maybe you should try IcsControl.
It's free and works great.

Id go wmwifirouter route. I have never had good luck with icscontrol never could get it to work and it pissed me off instead

henkreyn said:
I followed your directions exactly, but the problem remains. I get however once the phone pairs with the laptop (HP tx2000) a request for the "Bluetooth peripheral device" driver. I can't find this driver so it has probably something to do with this.
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You need to update the bluetooth driver for your laptop. Check the manufacturer (in, the device manager), usually widcomm or toshiba, and try to get it from their website if HP doesn't provide it (although they should). Vista drivers usually work, but I guess you're using XP? It may be worth checking on HP website to see if their offer updated BT drivers for your laptop.

Nighthawk said:
Version 0.91 is the last "free" version of the program. It is no longer free and it's version number has changed as well, version 1.11 is the latest.
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I've tried both versions of the program (free old V0.91 and trial for the commercial V1.11).
They both work with the Touch Pro (tried with my Vaio TZ11).
V1.11 is however around 20% faster (I get an average of 500kbps with V0.91, and consistently above 600kbps down with the V1.11).
So the old version gives about the same bandwidth as my BT Pan (without the convenience of sharing between more than one client), while the V1.11 seems to be better optimised and provides better bandwidth.
The response time is around 100ms for both (against around 140ms for BT Pan). Upstream is around 300kbps for both version , against 400kbps for BT Pan.
This is on a UK T-Mobile HSDPA connection, with 3/4 bars signal strength (could those who manage to get it to work let us know if they get better figures?).
You should obviously get much better with Vodafone in a 7.2Mbps area like London/Major airports.

Fuze as a bluetooth or usb modem...

According to the HTC Wiki Page under Tips (http://www.htcwiki.com/page/FUZE+Tips) it states the following...
Description - Unable to tether device to a PC.
Details - Unable to use the device as a wireless modem; when trying to connect, the user gets “Remote Party has ended the connection”
Cause/fix - An AT&T Laptop Connect plan is required in order to use the device as a wireless modem.
I have not purchased the phone yet, but would want to occasionally tether it to my laptop to process credit cards via PayPal at trade shows. I downloaded a fix for my Samsung Blackjack to accomplish this. It is called Internet Sharing on the Blackjack. Has anyone developed anything to accomplish this on the Fuze/Raphael/Touch Pro? I want to make sure I will be able to successfully tether them (via bluetooth preferred) before purchasing.
Thanks in advance for your helpful comments.

I have read in previous posts that by simply navigating to the windows directory and running Internet Sharing you can teather via MediaNet, or could install the Internet Sharing CAB file. I was wondering if this will be true with the pre-releases of the Fuze that anyone may have.

adboom said:
I have read in previous posts that by simply navigating to the windows directory and running Internet Sharing you can teather via MediaNet, or could install the Internet Sharing CAB file. I was wondering if this will be true with the pre-releases of the Fuze that anyone may have.
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it certainly should work since the tilt says the same thing about not using it unless you have the special plan. but internet sharing works as it does on my 8525. they just hide it from you

How to finalize Internet Sharing
I just got my AT&T Fuze, and I've been hunting around all day for this info. I have connected the phone through bluetooth, but I still apparently need a number to call. When I set up something similar for my T-Mobile HTC Wizard, I used *99# I think. What's the equivalent for AT&T?

frekin said:
I just got my AT&T Fuze, and I've been hunting around all day for this info. I have connected the phone through bluetooth, but I still apparently need a number to call. When I set up something similar for my T-Mobile HTC Wizard, I used *99# I think. What's the equivalent for AT&T?
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Here's the login/dialup info I have used for my 8125 for about 2 years:
Dialup Number: *99#
APN: isp.cingular (or wap.cingular will work I've read)
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
I couldn't get my laptop to use the Fuze as a Bluetooth Modem in the same way as my 8125 so I turned on the Internet Connection Sharing on the Fuze by the deleting the registry key discussed below (requires a soft reset afterwards). I preferred the convenience of simply opening a webpage on my laptop and it automatically wirelessly using my phone as an actual Bluetooth Modem but the more cumbersome Internet Sharing Connection method download speeds seem to be much faster. Using http://www.speedtest.net as a benchmark connecting my laptop and my Fuze via Bluetooth PAN gives me 600-700 Kbps while connecting the Fuze directly to the laptop using USB gives me 1200-1300 Kbps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437796
This works with standard $15/month Sprint PCS Vision plan.
No you do not need to purchase Phone As Modem plan.
No they will not charge you extra because there's no way for them to known you tethering to a pc.
I have two Touch Diamonds (not Pro's).
One for my wife and one for me.
My Internet sharing (Start\Programs\Internet sharing) only has one drop down menu, "PC Connection".
My wife's has two drop downs "PC Connection" AND "Network connection".
Now I bought her's two days after mine at the same Sprint store.
Her Internet connection shares Internet via USB connected directly to a PC without issue.
Mine doesn't since I have not been able to set the missing "Network connection" drop down menu option to the appropriate setting of "Sprint". Instead it either say Waiting for network or error 67 invalid username and password (something like that)
I deleted the key: (not just the value)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing\settings]
ForceCellConnection
Now I got the second drop down menu "Network connection", restarted the phone and now it works like a champ.
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didt even know this was an issue till now... sneaky little bastards. LOL... resetting phone now... if this works... Wow what a major find.

worked like a charm... Thank YOU

Yep, the info posted by replayreb works. I setup tethering yesterday using the directions on AT&T's support site for the Tilt. On my copy of Vista I had to add some init strings to make it work.
Here's a link to the AT&T KB article. Follow each link for detailed directions.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...yncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB97077&isSrch=Yes

I'm new to this I have downloaded Total Commander but I can't find the key to be deleted. Please help.
replayreb said:
Here's the login/dialup info I have used for my 8125 for about 2 years:
Dialup Number: *99#
APN: isp.cingular (or wap.cingular will work I've read)
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
I couldn't get my laptop to use the Fuze as a Bluetooth Modem in the same way as my 8125 so I turned on the Internet Connection Sharing on the Fuze by the deleting the registry key discussed below (requires a soft reset afterwards). I preferred the convenience of simply opening a webpage on my laptop and it automatically wirelessly using my phone as an actual Bluetooth Modem but the more cumbersome Internet Sharing Connection method download speeds seem to be much faster. Using http://www.speedtest.net as a benchmark connecting my laptop and my Fuze via Bluetooth PAN gives me 600-700 Kbps while connecting the Fuze directly to the laptop using USB gives me 1200-1300 Kbps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437796
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ORRRRR
you can just follow this :-D
http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=564

It works great.
Thanks

Alucard_11 said:
ORRRRR
you can just follow this :-D
http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=564
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this works GREAT!!! thanks for the help!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have to reboot for fuze to be seen
Can anyone tell me why I can set up a bluetooth partnership with my laptop, but then my laptop does not see my Fuze unless I turn the phone off and back on again?

excelente, usb connection is a go!! deleted the registry key using Total Commander, soft reset, connect via media net, done!

Bluetooth DUN & ATT Fuze?

The Fuze has the bt DUN profile, but every time I try and use a device to connect via DUN the Fuze drops the data connection and the DUN fails. Did ATT disable the BT DUN ability? I am using NAFT's newest rom 2.1, and I have had no luck. Any Ideas?

Is anyone else interested in BT DUN for the Fuze?
I know bt PAN is available, but I prefer the bt DUN which works with my nokia internet tablet. Does anyone know if it is possible?

airbillion said:
I know bt PAN is available, but I prefer the bt DUN which works with my nokia internet tablet. Does anyone know if it is possible?
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Yeah, I was going to suggest using PAN as it works for me just fine, though I've never used DUN.

The nokia internet tablets don't support PAN.
I know the fuze has the DUN profile, I'm just wondering if att somehow disabled it.