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When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.
joshstte said:
When I try to connect my Dash to my Mac it connects fine but there is something missing. In order to use my Dash as a modem for my Mac I need to pair them and so on. In the bluetooth set up, after I pair the two, I get to select which services I want my computer to use on my phone. The only service that shows on my computer is "address book" There should also be an option to "Access the Internet with your phone’s data connection" but it's not there. This is why I can't use my phone as a bluetooth modem. Why is this not showing up in the bluetooth set up? Is my phone not telling my Mac that it can be used as a bluetooth modem? My internet sharing settings and so on are activated and correct on my phone. Is it just my compter?
http://justinblanton.com/2006/01/mac-os-x-windows-mobile-bluetooth-modem
The seventh paragraph is where the problem is.
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The Dash has AKU3, which means it lacks BT DUN and only has BT PAN. This is why you don't see DUN, unlike with pre-AKU3 devices.
I'll publish a big article on all these questions in a few hours, where I explain all these questions in detail. Stay tuned!
Menneisyys
Is there a way to get a Tmobile dash paired with a G4 Mac Powerbook?
I want to access the internet on my powerbook via my Dash.
I see in your reply above you were going to write an article on this. I've not found out how to get this to work.
thanks for any help
John
I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.
hatoncat said:
I see the problem... basically Mac OS X doesn't support Bluetooth Personal Area Networks (PANs). Bluetooth Modems normally use DUN (which is what HTC devices used prior to AKU2... and was hacked to route into WModem).
With AKU3, MS standardized this. They went with PAN instead of DUN because PAN allows for IPNAT... enabling the device and the laptop to be online at the same time.
But, of course, Macs don't even see the PAN profile... meaning we're SOL right now.
P.S... testing this on my Blue Angel with AKU 3.5... same problem here.
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Let's all hope the Widcomm BT hack will some day also have DUN support, even under AKU3+. See the Hermes / Wizard forums for more info on the hack.
DUN / PAN Problems with OSX
I know OSX doesn't support PAN, but check this site out --> http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007194/blackjack_mac_connection
It's a write up on how to get the Samsung BlackJack working with OSX, BlackJack I believe also use PAN.
I tried it, but wasn't able to get it to work. I have to leave the office right now, so maybe someone else might have better luck than I do.
-kz
working with p3600
It seems working with a P3600 using the new network sharing feature with the USB Cable! The mac sees a ethernet port (with ip already asigned by p3600)under systempreferences>network.
I donnu if its because i have missing sync (demo) installed that that connection just comes up...
cheers..
Update: Working on MBP CoreDuo...
I've got the dash, and I set it and my macbook pro to be discoverable, went thru the wizard on the mac side which found no usable services, then enabled the "internet sharing" app on my dash, and immediately selected the "join network with tmobile43" option on the bluetooth menu on my mac, and volia! i'm typing this to you via this connection.
Solid! Now if only bluetooth charged the battery
tmobile dash bluetooth modem problem
Ok this is wat i have to say i have a macbook and when i go to bluetooth setting it says in can use the kind of network interface that ur powerbook doesnt support and the reason ur powerbook doesnt support it is either u need to upgrade ur airport card or mabye upgrade to leopard like i did or do both because im running my macbook with the 802.11n wireless and bluetooth card and with 10.5 so that might be a solution to ur problem and i also know that u should upgrade to a macbook or a macbook pro if u want excelent peformance or heavily upgrade ur powerbook g4 and anyway wat are the specs on ur powerbook??
(macbook white 2.0 ghz 80gb hd and 2 gigs of ram)
sorry i put in powerbook for some reason i meant to say wat mac do u have
It seems to me that OS X (Leopard at least) wants to use the Network Access Point Bluetooth profile with Bluetooth PAN. I got it working with WM6.1 but I had to change Bluetooth PAN from PANU to NAT.
See ]Fixing 0803xx Bluetooth PAN on OS X 10.5.
NOTE: The thread number has changed from 382057(broken) to 373138 or go directly to the post.
UPDATE: Apparently the threads have been renumbered... or at least the thread with my post in it has changed... here's the link to the post: 2080487
I have a T-Mobile SDA running the WM6 Perfect English ROM and I can't get the BT DUN hack to work. I installed the .cab file for the BT DUN hack and soft reset. When I pair it with my other cell phone (VZW Nokia 6315i), I don't have an option for the Dial Up Networking service. I was able to BT DUN with my old Blue Angel (VZW XV6600) and with my laptop on the 6315i.
Anybody able to get the hack to work on their SDA? If so, any suggestions on what I'm missing.
Thanks
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I have a T-Mobile SDA running the WM6 Perfect English ROM and I can't get the BT DUN hack to work. I installed the .cab file for the BT DUN hack and soft reset. When I pair it with my other cell phone (VZW Nokia 6315i), I don't have an option for the Dial Up Networking service. I was able to BT DUN with my old Blue Angel (VZW XV6600) and with my laptop on the 6315i.
Anybody able to get the hack to work on their SDA? If so, any suggestions on what I'm missing.
Thanks
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Did you first SDA Application Unlock your phone? Make sure the devices are paired! The options or bluetooth dialup setup should be on the PDA or laptop, but see if you have a dialup option on the SDA, if not still it should work. Another thing make sure you install the bluetooth Dun.cab from my thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340762 ..............!
My SDA is application unlocked. Unlocked it before I did the WM6 ROM upgrade. I had the BT dun hack .cab already installed. I uninstalled it and installed yours instead. Same thing is happening. No services are listed after pairing.
I paired the SDA with my laptop and the laptop is giving me the option for DUN as listed services. Essentially, I want my SDA to BT DUN with my 6315i. Is this even possible?
No Way!
cmark1 said:
My SDA is application unlocked. Unlocked it before I did the WM6 ROM upgrade. I had the BT dun hack .cab already installed. I uninstalled it and installed yours instead. Same thing is happening. No services are listed after pairing.
I paired the SDA with my laptop and the laptop is giving me the option for DUN as listed services. Essentially, I want my SDA to BT DUN with my 6315i. Is this even possible?
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The Two cell phones will not pair via bluetooth Dun Dial-up, but you should be able to pair each cell phone to your laptop via bluetooth Dun dial-up. The phones act as the connection modem, the bluetooth Dun dial-up connection setup options will always be on the device (laptop, PDA,ect) that you are trying to connect to the Internet. The phones do not have this option, because they will act as the modem!
That's unfortunate. My Blue Angel was able to BT DUN with my 6315i. You are saying this was only possible because the Blue Angel was a PDA phone. The BA did not originally have the DUN profile but a hack was devised from a PDA. Is there such a device like a smartphone without the phone hardware where a hack for the SDA can be devised?
Thanks for all the help and info.
I desperately need to get ICS over WiFi working. I've tried WMWiFiRouter, but it either keeps giving me 'Fatal Error' or the connection drops off the moment the PC connects to it. I've also tried ICSControl.exe, a program that someone on XDA has created, but I just couldn't figure out how to get things going with that (or I'm too dumb).
Could someone please tell me the easiest way to get my data connection working on my laptop over Wifi? I'm using Raphael with the stock rom.
Cheers
its built in i think in the commanager last option. but it is set to bluetooth pan standard if i am correct.
you can try use advanced config 3.1 and goto data connections.. change private interface for internet sharing to wlan.
i was surprised to see Advanced Config had the option there. But it still doesn't work
I changed the private interface from the default of 'Custom' to WLAN11g1 and it asks me to soft-reset the device, which i did. Then I go into Internet Sharing, and I still only get 'USB' or 'Bluetooth PAN' as options. Am i missing something?
there is another wlan option in there.
i have no idea how this is supposed to work :/
one would think that setting this option would set the setting to wlan as supposed to. not sure if you should change it or not afterwards with the connectionsharingsettingstab. it probably overwrites the value in registry.
here is something you can try :
turn on wifi
set the option in adv config to TnetWln1
reset
turn on this wifi AP application and try using it
WMwifiRouter
Just tried WMwifiRouter on my Touch Pro and it worked fine
Works fine for me too. Takes all the hassle out of it!
adityasen said:
I desperately need to get ICS over WiFi working. I've tried WMWiFiRouter, but it either keeps giving me 'Fatal Error' or the connection drops off the moment the PC connects to it. I've also tried ICSControl.exe, a program that someone on XDA has created, but I just couldn't figure out how to get things going with that (or I'm too dumb).
Could someone please tell me the easiest way to get my data connection working on my laptop over Wifi? I'm using Raphael with the stock rom.
Cheers
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2 questions:
1) Which network are you with? If your connection works but stops when you get ICS to try to connect, it may be blocked by your network if a) you are not allowed to use your mobile as a modem and/or b) ICS is not allowed. Does your connection work with standard email/web?
2) Why sharing your connection over wifi when BT pan works so well and so easily and you only need to share with your laptop? I use wifi when the laptop can connect directly to a router/hotspot, otherwise I use BT Pan. There is no real speed compromise as the bottleneck is the 3G connection itself), and BT 2.0 EDR offers a wide enough bandwidth for what you want to do. I use skype on my laptop with my 3G connection shared over BT PAN and it works a treat (that is, better than Skype 2.2 on WM!).
I'm probably missing something....
Manni01 said:
2 questions:
1) Which network are you with? If your connection works but stops when you get ICS to try to connect, it may be blocked by your network if a) you are not allowed to use your mobile as a modem and/or b) ICS is not allowed. Does your connection work with standard email/web?
2) Why sharing your connection over wifi when BT pan works so well and so easily and you only need to share with your laptop? I use wifi when the laptop can connect directly to a router/hotspot, otherwise I use BT Pan. There is no real speed compromise as the bottleneck is the 3G connection itself), and BT 2.0 EDR offers a wide enough bandwidth for what you want to do. I use skype on my laptop with my 3G connection shared over BT PAN and it works a treat (that is, better than Skype 2.2 on WM!).
I'm probably missing something....
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ICS has nothing to do with your carrier. It works the same way on your phone as it does on the pc. it merely routes the gateway to the devices connected to the ICS network.
I myself have a TP and use ICS with Softbank (softbank roms do not contain ICS) and it works fine.
I agree with you however, when it comes to bluetooth. Even if your PC doesnt have BT, it is well worth it to buy one of those nifty mini adapters.
they are so tiny, you wont even see them. But easy to setup and fast enough.
im with 3. nomal mail / web works fine. there are no restrictions by the network for ics. as for the BT question, I dont have BT on my laptop. it has built in wifi and i want to use that. i also have a mac n have never managed 2 get BT PAN working with os x.
Can't get BT pan to work with Vista either. My laptop does not "find" the HTC Touch pro as a pan enabled phone.
latest version works ok
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the latest version is 1.10 not 0.94. have tried it with not much luck
adityasen said:
the latest version is 1.10 not 0.94. have tried it with not much luck
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its 0.91...
you are sure we are talking about the same application ?
there is also one from htc which isnt a wifirouter program actually
da_jojo said:
its 0.91...
you are sure we are talking about the same application ?
there is also one from htc which isnt a wifirouter program actually
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Version 0.91 is the last "free" version of the program. It is no longer free and it's version number has changed as well, version 1.11 is the latest.
henkreyn said:
Can't get BT pan to work with Vista either. My laptop does not "find" the HTC Touch pro as a pan enabled phone.
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First make sure you have no active BT connection, either on your desktop/laptop or on the TP (i.e. BT Headset).
You need to go to Comm Manager (BT switched on of course!), select BT Options (lower right menu), Mode, and select "make this device visible to other devices".
Once you've setup a partnership, it will probably say "connection denied" on the first connection.
Don't be as dumb as me, got to internet sharing (all programs) and select BT Pan and Connect... Then try to connect BT Pan again...
It *should* work (works a treat on my Vista 32 desktop and my Sony TZ11 Laptop, I get around 400-500kbps down and a bit less up).
BT PAN
I followed your directions exactly, but the problem remains. I get however once the phone pairs with the laptop (HP tx2000) a request for the "Bluetooth peripheral device" driver. I can't find this driver so it has probably something to do with this.
Maybe you should try IcsControl.
It's free and works great.
Id go wmwifirouter route. I have never had good luck with icscontrol never could get it to work and it pissed me off instead
henkreyn said:
I followed your directions exactly, but the problem remains. I get however once the phone pairs with the laptop (HP tx2000) a request for the "Bluetooth peripheral device" driver. I can't find this driver so it has probably something to do with this.
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You need to update the bluetooth driver for your laptop. Check the manufacturer (in, the device manager), usually widcomm or toshiba, and try to get it from their website if HP doesn't provide it (although they should). Vista drivers usually work, but I guess you're using XP? It may be worth checking on HP website to see if their offer updated BT drivers for your laptop.
Nighthawk said:
Version 0.91 is the last "free" version of the program. It is no longer free and it's version number has changed as well, version 1.11 is the latest.
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I've tried both versions of the program (free old V0.91 and trial for the commercial V1.11).
They both work with the Touch Pro (tried with my Vaio TZ11).
V1.11 is however around 20% faster (I get an average of 500kbps with V0.91, and consistently above 600kbps down with the V1.11).
So the old version gives about the same bandwidth as my BT Pan (without the convenience of sharing between more than one client), while the V1.11 seems to be better optimised and provides better bandwidth.
The response time is around 100ms for both (against around 140ms for BT Pan). Upstream is around 300kbps for both version , against 400kbps for BT Pan.
This is on a UK T-Mobile HSDPA connection, with 3/4 bars signal strength (could those who manage to get it to work let us know if they get better figures?).
You should obviously get much better with Vodafone in a 7.2Mbps area like London/Major airports.
I know that the CM 6.1 supports the USB Keyboard/mouse, but what are the odds of getting the Bluetooth DUN tethering support ported over from the Archos 101 and 70 devices? Would love to hear some insight from the devs about the feasibility of having such a feature. I would love to leave my EVO tethered to the GTab over Bluetooth instead of Wifi. It would be a huge battery saver when I'm away from home/office wifi connection.
Also, USB Keyboard/mouse as a part of TnT? Possible? Worth it? Not worth it?
I second the above. BT stays on 24/7 on my phone, it would be much easier, and ideally we could eventually come up with some sort of on-demand script or app that keeps the BT DUN profile active, without battery drain on the cell.
With this in place, the gTab could connect and disconnect to the cell phone as needed, just like DUN should be. Best case scenario is to not even have to do anything on the phone, just enable BT on the gTab (or leave enabled as desired) and do some activity that accesses the internet. This would trigger a BT DUN connection to the phone, which disconnects after a certain period of inactivity (or manually, as desired).
If I knew a damn thing about how to program, this is what I would be trying to create.
That said, I'm a willing guinea pig.
Really? No one else is interested in this?
I know one of you guys out there has a rooted phone with wireless tether. I'm just starting down the root road. I have a Dinc, but it's been factory since I got it... and will be until the weekend, the gTab has whetted my whistle for root freedom.
What happens when you try to pair your gTab with your phone while it's got BT Tether activated? Any BT DUN profile goodness?
P_6 said:
What happens when you try to pair your gTab with your phone while it's got BT Tether activated? Any BT DUN profile goodness?
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I'll try it out and let you know.
Bluetooth Tethering a High Wish List Item
For me, getting the tablet to tether via bluetooth to my Blackberry Tour would be a high priority wish list item. I am completely in the dark with this stuff but I can tether my PC to my Blackberry so I should in theory be able to tether and use the network connection. I realize that most folks here probably have an Android-base smartphone, but my company makes me carry around their smartphone (and has the decency to pay for unlimited data plan). If I could get the tablet to work from the BB's network connection I would be almost complete on my wish list. I have gotten to the point of paring the two devices (but can't seem to get them to connect). I am using tnt lite 2.02 and my 9630 device has v 4.7.1.40 with 3G, CDMA connections.
Indeed, the hope would be that the BT stack within the gTab can take advantage of BT Dial up networking or Personal area networking profiles. Then we would be good to go. If not now, hopefully we can find a way to get that to work.
Really? No one care about Bluetooth Tether on this device?
You don't have to ask me twice Oops, you did.
I am extremely interested in a Bluetooth tethering solution for the gtab. It's the only way I will be able to get a 3G connection from my phone that won't be policed at work (non-corporate wifi hotspots are monitored).
I have a Nexus One Adnroid phone (running Froyo 2.2.1). I use the Wifi hotspot feature when I want hop online with my G-Tab (my work monitors wifi, as well but I only turn it on as I need it.) I can't speak for BlackBerry phones but any "rooted" Android phone should be able to act as a 3G/4G hotspot.
Wifi tethering should be faster, but USB tethering and keyboard & mouse support are needed and should work in the first place. (keyboard and mouse support at least should).
Need a program like http://android.gval.biz/ or ibluever for iphone/itouch then the g tablet would be my laptop replacement for traveling .
nicholas621 said:
Need a program like http://android.gval.biz/ or ibluever for iphone/itouch then the g tablet would be my laptop replacement for traveling .
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I've tried to run this on VEGAn ROM, configured but at the moment when It suppose to scan for Channels, it exits of message "Failed To connect to SDP server on device Blackberry 9000".... ideas?
nicholas621 said:
Need a program like http://android.gval.biz/ or ibluever for iphone/itouch then the g tablet would be my laptop replacement for traveling .
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Are you looking for DUN over BT? If so, have you tried this:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/pdanet/com.pdanet
Jim
I believe PDAnet requires client windows/mac software, and they haven't written client Android software.
I haven't seen anyone port the Archos home-grown BT tether to any other brand. BT tether isn't part of Android (I'm betting the cellcos in OHA demanded it not be built).
My wife has Joikuspot on her phone, so she wifi tethers on the G-tab.
I have unlimited bluetooth data, so I bought an Archos.
ml_boston said:
I believe PDAnet requires client windows/mac software, and they haven't written client Android software.
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You are right PDANet wont work as no client for Android, but from my experience listed above blackberry refusing connections.... or may be GTab just doesn't opening connection properly.
When I check GTable BT device property from Blackberry side it can do only:
Handsfree Audio Gateway
Headset Audio Gateway
Object Push
AV Remote Control Target
.... there is no DUN in the list, so I suspect it just not supported by BT stack on device.... but also I have in same my laptop listed as well which doesnt have DUN in its services
I searched the forum, googles etc, but couldn't find a way to use my BB torch and tether my TF. The Bluetooth paired just fine, but pdanet doesn't work. I think honeycomb need a DUN caller or something like that. Any idea guys?
I am interested in this as well.
I'm interested as well. My Transformer arrives in the next couple of days so I'll be tinkering with this. I have a BlackBerry Curve 8530 through Verizon (tethering plan as well). I'll post something here if I find out how to do it.
I've not found an answer yet.
Anyone gotta clue ?
Cheers,
gpearson1968
Has there been any progress on this yet?
Doesn't Support DUN
Honeycomb (3.1) does not currently support Bluetooth DUN, which how the Blackberry tethers through Bluetooth. However, PDAnet might come through for you and/or an android update.
Thewalrus0034 said:
Honeycomb (3.1) does not currently support Bluetooth DUN ...
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HC supports BT PAN. Edit: didn't realize BBs only support BT DUN.
--L.
So we are we are out of luck.
Hi, I was able to successfully connect my tf with pdanet tablet and curve 9300 pdanet 2.3.. going through the instructions on pdanet tablet beta1 setup proxy and had previously pair both device. Initially I failed but after tinkering on the bb side which is to disable bt dun (bb was on os 6.0) in options>services uncheck dial up it worked. Unfortunately no data is being transferred. Perhaps its my bb subscription restriction, can anybody give a shot? Thanks!