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Sell PocketZenPhone ?

A liitle poll about PocketZenPhone.
I like to thank those who donate but I'm far from a XDA2.
To help me to buy one I think to buy PZP for 5/7€ (in fact 7€ because sale site such as handango keeps 30% of the price)
What do you think ?

I have the version 3.6, and I tried to make a donation, but Paypal doesn't support Slovenian credit cards.
So I will pay for your software for sure.
Excellent work Zendrui.
Bye by Urosh

I also had problems donating on PayPal with my American Express card - so would happily pay €7/$8.48 for your software.
I hope you get your XDA II very soon!

i think that you should but with shareware everywhere the problem is that it's often pretty easy to pay if you live in the same country or such as the person you want to pay but if you live on the northpole it's more of an issue
(not that i live on the northpole )

in this case it seems the only way to go... how much did you get by donations? can't remember the amount you mentioned here, but it's truly not going to be a 14590 bucks... that's the count of people visiting your site. imagine only the half has downloaded and everyone would have donated 1 little buck to you, that would be more than just one xda2. i think that's the world we are living in nowadays. everyone wants to get everything for free... sad story. good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world

For now I get 90€ ... if I sell it for 5/7€ maybe it could help me to approach the XDA2.
I'm not thinking to get many € but ...
Really the XDA2 is my only motivation to sell

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

I would think USD 20/15 EUR would be much more fair given the value we get.
Regards
Michael

So, where I can buy pocketzenphone? :wink:

how about having 2 PZP versions?
1. PZP lite which would be for free and only includes the basuc profile changing functions
2. PZP pro which would include all the sophisticated functions of timers and radio on/off and so on??
that way you could stand by your initial principle of free PZP while you could make some money for the XDA 2

i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story

Rabia said:
i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story
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Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.

iggy said:
Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.
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this is a good idea, travlers check would work with me or money wire through the bank or anything as long as we have a way

JaToAc said:
... good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world
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why protect it? sell it - and there will be more than enough people willing to pay. if i think of all the ppl having a pda and 99% of them have NO idea where to get warez.
i for myself would pay for it. i think 5.- is ok for a "little" tool for the pda.
regards ize|man

i bet there would be a lot of people willing to pay for pzp and i would bet up to €10 would be no problem to sell 4.x with all the funtions this build offers. i was more than happy to donate some € to zendrui in the beginning of pzp and would donate again some € if he would not go commercial. but if he is going to sell pzp count me in... but i would bet to see that on some place soon...

Hi,
I hope you got the EUR 10 from me !
I use the software regularly. It's great with my HBH 35 headset. I now do active sync only with bluetooth.
Regards, Dave

Rabias idea is the best, without doubt.
And yeah, only few people know how to get PPC warez.
But if you find it.. whoo... the possibilities - to test before buy!

:roll:

If someone find the manner to send the money from Slovenia I'll send it (7€) to Zendrui without Handango.
I think that you are right. Handango is for finding clients, but Zendrui just has clients (us). So it is stupid to give 30% to Handango only because we are not able to send the money to Zendrui.
Urosh

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry

If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.

Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.

Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.

Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.

Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.

Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller

I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...

To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)

In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose

matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.

Ponder said:
You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!

SOLD now, thanks.

[Q] Is bukas limited legit?

I saw the company posted an ad on here (POST HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN) and this sounds like the old african prince email scam
Does anyone know anything about it though? I did a google search and really every website posted is their ad on another forum so it sounds sketchy.

Scammers!!!!scammers!!!scammers!!!
SCAMMERS!!!!SCAMMERS!!!SCAMMERS!!! Bukas Limited and Product Advance Limited and Rex Lawrence the CEO are not legit and all the same company/person. I ordered out of curiosity and a desire for a side business reselling items. They came back with an additional charge for shipping after the first Western Union. Then they used a no name shipping company called Daralex. That I am pretty sure is just a bad web page as not all the buttons work. Then they stated that they oops sent too many and tried to get more money. I refused and they said I would need to send more money to ship the one again. Needless to say I gave up at that point. I took it as far as I felt could be without significant financial loss.

[GAME] Cash Button Race [WIN $100]

Hey everyone,
Here comes a new game on the Android Play Store!
Cash Button Race is a game where you have to be the fastest to get to the GOAL! Create your free account and reach 1 MIL hits on a button and YOU WIN $100 REAL CASH!
Download:
Mod edit: No paid apps without a free version for xda members - thread closed.

so let me get this straight
100 people buy an app for $2.42x100=$242
and then finally one of us gets $100?
While you pocket the rest?
I am sorry but really??

Mhh i think you wont even get the 100$.. also i think its very easy to make with a vnc server and some windows makros.. or gamecih or whatever.

muneebrocks said:
so let me get this straight
100 people buy an app for $2.42x100=$242
and then finally one of us gets $100?
While you pocket the rest?
I am sorry but really??
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The game is one time purchase, and there will be 2 or 3 rounds... Depends how many people buy the game.
The calculation is almost right, except Google takes 30% out of each sale, so it will be 2.42 - 30%x100 = $170
Then I give the winner $100 bucks and I get $70... I think it's worth consider the time spent to develop this game.
And if it turns out to be more successful then just this, The prize will definitely go up, but for start, I think it's fare like this.
Best Regards,
Ivan

westpak said:
Mhh i think you wont even get the 100$.. also i think its very easy to make with a vnc server and some windows makros.. or gamecih or whatever.
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One thing I hate in life are those SPAM games or ads all over the web!
I am an honest man, and will send $100 dollars to the winner via email as soon as we get a winner!
There is a server security, so gamecih or other 3rd party software won't affect the numbers.
Thank you for your opinion on this westpak, I appreciate it!
Ivan

Please read the forum rules before posting again.
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Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling.

Just wanted to warn people about Odesk.com

I needed an Android app designed and I've no idea how to do it myself. I've used websites before to get other work done, such as website help I was stuck on. I decided to give Odesk.com a try. It's a website where I post a job, people bid on the job.
What a scam / rip-off!
I have a decent idea for an app, which I don't see out there currently. There is another device that can do what my app would do, but this is a piece of hardware for $20, when I could design the app and sell it for 99 cents.
So, I posted my job and hired someone in India. He assured me he could do what I needed. We communicated on what I wanted and I accepted his bid. My app is something small and simple, so I don't think a lot of work is required, hence the low price I was hoping to get the work done for.
I was required to pay 20% in advance, which wasn't that much, so I did it.. less than $30. I figured that was a good deal. I pay a few bucks up front to show I am serious. Another website holds the money in escrow. Not this website.
About a week or a week and a half go by and I ask the guy how things are coming along. I had given my project a deadline to be finished by next month. No answer from the person, but a few days later he replies that my app is all done, here you go, job marked as finished.
First off, how the hell can someone just mark a job as completed just because some other guy says it is? What about me? I don't get a say on whether it's completed or not?
I was surprised he finished it. I was thinking it would be something I could alpha or beta test. If things went well I would provide a splash screen he could insert in the beginning. But to my surprise it booted up with a name and a logo already.
He STOLE the software from another website! Just typing the name of the app in the web pulls up their website. The app doesn't even do what I want. Sure, it has similar elements, but it doesn't do what I want. All he did was rename their APK to my name.
The seller will not respond and Odesk not will refund my money. They warn you to not make a pre payment of any amount, yet they allow people to request a pre payment and their system allows you to pay, even though no work was finished.
I have an investigation going on with Odesk. If they spend two seconds they'd see that the guy stole the software and could refund my money. That could take awhile, so I went ahead and filed a claim with my credit card company, lodged a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
Anyway, I thought I'd warn people not to use this site. I've used freelancer.com before, previously vworker.com, previously rentacoder.com with no issues, but since they switched to freelancer.com I think their rates went up is why I don't use them and am looking for another place.
If anyone knows a place to get an app designed for a fair price (not game), lemme know.