Sell PocketZenPhone ? - General Topics

A liitle poll about PocketZenPhone.
I like to thank those who donate but I'm far from a XDA2.
To help me to buy one I think to buy PZP for 5/7€ (in fact 7€ because sale site such as handango keeps 30% of the price)
What do you think ?

I have the version 3.6, and I tried to make a donation, but Paypal doesn't support Slovenian credit cards.
So I will pay for your software for sure.
Excellent work Zendrui.
Bye by Urosh

I also had problems donating on PayPal with my American Express card - so would happily pay €7/$8.48 for your software.
I hope you get your XDA II very soon!

i think that you should but with shareware everywhere the problem is that it's often pretty easy to pay if you live in the same country or such as the person you want to pay but if you live on the northpole it's more of an issue
(not that i live on the northpole )

in this case it seems the only way to go... how much did you get by donations? can't remember the amount you mentioned here, but it's truly not going to be a 14590 bucks... that's the count of people visiting your site. imagine only the half has downloaded and everyone would have donated 1 little buck to you, that would be more than just one xda2. i think that's the world we are living in nowadays. everyone wants to get everything for free... sad story. good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world

For now I get 90€ ... if I sell it for 5/7€ maybe it could help me to approach the XDA2.
I'm not thinking to get many € but ...
Really the XDA2 is my only motivation to sell

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

I would think USD 20/15 EUR would be much more fair given the value we get.
Regards
Michael

So, where I can buy pocketzenphone? :wink:

how about having 2 PZP versions?
1. PZP lite which would be for free and only includes the basuc profile changing functions
2. PZP pro which would include all the sophisticated functions of timers and radio on/off and so on??
that way you could stand by your initial principle of free PZP while you could make some money for the XDA 2

i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story

Rabia said:
i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story
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Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.

iggy said:
Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.
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this is a good idea, travlers check would work with me or money wire through the bank or anything as long as we have a way

JaToAc said:
... good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world
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why protect it? sell it - and there will be more than enough people willing to pay. if i think of all the ppl having a pda and 99% of them have NO idea where to get warez.
i for myself would pay for it. i think 5.- is ok for a "little" tool for the pda.
regards ize|man

i bet there would be a lot of people willing to pay for pzp and i would bet up to €10 would be no problem to sell 4.x with all the funtions this build offers. i was more than happy to donate some € to zendrui in the beginning of pzp and would donate again some € if he would not go commercial. but if he is going to sell pzp count me in... but i would bet to see that on some place soon...

Hi,
I hope you got the EUR 10 from me !
I use the software regularly. It's great with my HBH 35 headset. I now do active sync only with bluetooth.
Regards, Dave

Rabias idea is the best, without doubt.
And yeah, only few people know how to get PPC warez.
But if you find it.. whoo... the possibilities - to test before buy!

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If someone find the manner to send the money from Slovenia I'll send it (7€) to Zendrui without Handango.
I think that you are right. Handango is for finding clients, but Zendrui just has clients (us). So it is stupid to give 30% to Handango only because we are not able to send the money to Zendrui.
Urosh

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F...xxx... Handango.com

Well, I thought its a joke: Download protectino at handango is $6.99 FOR EVERY SINLGE PIECE OF PURCHASED SOFTWARE? At the beginnig I thought its $6.99 for ALL purchased software.
Anyone wants to start a Handango.com boykott? I would gladly join since I bought 70 applications with Handango and would have to pay hundreds of dollars to be able to download them again.
Any other good vendors? Pocketgear?
Handango is rubbish. Use pocketgear. They let you download your purchased applications whever you want, again.
I stopped using Handango about 2 years ago...they're just awful.
Unfortunately, once in a great while you find SW that is only available from them (not even the developer!) in which case you take the risk.
9/10 though I go
1) developer's website (Paypal rocks)
2) pocketgear (or smartphone.net)
I can't believe anyone would use Handango these days. The site itself it just an awful mess and a b*tch to navigate.
Applestar said:
Well, I thought its a joke: Download protectino at handango is $6.99 FOR EVERY SINLGE PIECE OF PURCHASED SOFTWARE? At the beginnig I thought its $6.99 for ALL purchased software.
Anyone wants to start a Handango.com boykott? I would gladly join since I bought 70 applications with Handango and would have to pay hundreds of dollars to be able to download them again.
Any other good vendors? Pocketgear?
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By far I think pocket gear is the best. I too thought the so called 'protecton plan' was for all software I purchase.How could they think of this!
mikechannon said:
I recently received notification of an update for software I purchased through Handango. There were problems with getting my free upgrade. However I have to say they were very quick in responding to my contact and were very helpful and polite. They also followed up to make sure everything was ok and gave me a 10% discount on future purchase.
I did take the opportunity in feedback to comment on the download protection fee as an issue that seems unfair and that they may be losing business to the likes of pocketgear.
I think sometimes we complain to the wrong people and we may forget that actually a company may genuinely wish to serve their customers and may listen to well meant criticism. Certainly Handango unlike many organisations were very responsive to my on-line contact. Many companies don't even bother to reply to on-line requests for help or complaints.
That's not to say that out of the 200,000 members here that there will be no horror stories though.
Mike
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You surely have a point there. In any case the protection plan is optional.

Anyone here from CHINA ???

I have a weird problem... I ordered the e-cig (China) and after extensive talks with local Customs office, National Medications Department and TNT, I could not get my shipment from them. The problem is, in Estonia the E-pipe is regarded as "medical device" and the cartridges and liquid as "medicine". So without proper license I cannot import them. There is also a way around this - if the package contains ONLY the E-pipe without ANY cartridges and is sent by private person (not company) I can import them because it is not considered as "ordering from internet". TNT can change the address on the package if they want but not the originating country. That's the problem actually... I was wondering if someone could help me with that?
Currently the package is at TNT's warehouse and waiting my instructions, for which I have two options now - send back or have it destroyed. Of course, sending back costs additional money, around 30$. The package contains 45$ e-pipe, some pipe accessories and e-liquid, total worth around 65$.
I am looking for someone from China willing to help - provide his/her address, have the package sent to there, take the "medicine" parts out of the package and send it back via regular post (it's cheaper). If You can make use of the liquid and cartridges, You might give me a discount on the postal charges, if not, I am willing to pay the costs via Paypal. I calculated 30$ for TNT and 10$ for regular post back to here.
There are two reasons I want to do this. One is for principle - to **** the Customs (government) for ****ing me. The other is that I don't like the idea of destroying the device - on one hand, corrupted as they are, they are probably taking it to themselves anyway. On the other hand, if not, it's not very environmentally sound thing to do.
Anyway, hope there are someone decent folk from China here willing to help.
i can help
i am in shenzhen city guangdong province.
I can help you.
My mailbox:[email protected]
If you want know me more,visit www.rubberfactory.com.cn.
TBH I wouldnt trust a first time poster, but other than that. MODs can we please hide this guys email for his sake
To: wsrubber
OK, thanks, I will e-mail You!
To: livefastdieyoung87
Well, normally I would not too, but I'm kind of in a tight position.
aiiro said:
To: livefastdieyoung87
Well, normally I would not too, but I'm kind of in a tight position.
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Oi Oi that live fastdieFUN87 dont make me hurt you lol
Oops... Sorry

XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry
If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.
Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.
Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.
Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.
Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller
I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...
To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose
matmaneyre said:
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!
SOLD now, thanks.

What do you think about this iphone seller?

Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
mohgdeisat said:
Hi,
I was searching the net for reasonably cheap iphone deals and I found this company in the UK:
http://www.babbey.co.uk.pn/
the iphone 3g 16GB is for $350, + 30 pounds shipping, he ships worldwide.
He asked me to transfer the money via western union. do you think that he is a scammer? I don't know but he seems to be true. Any suggestions?
Thanks
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If it's too good to be true...
By the way are you sure he's english? -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.pn
Dave
at least he is under british control, these islands are british.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands
well, I don't know if it too good to be true coz I don't know how much does the iphone cost in bulk. Another thing that makes me feel relaxed is that he wants me to send the money to the UK and I am in the UK, too!
It's the Western Union bit that makes me cautious.
Also why would a UK based company register and even use a .pn domain, especially when the real .co.uk address is available?
I can't say for sure either way... but what guarantee's do you have?
If you do get scammed you'll have ignored all the warning bells... Price in $'s, Registered in the Uk, using Anon Payments, un-heard of, obscure domain, etc...
Also, look at these posts : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...wRx&q="www.babbey.co.uk.pn"&btnG=Search&meta=
If in doubt, don't use them.
Dave
Hmm they say that they are a registered UK company under the number 04568517. how can I check if this is true?
EDIT: I checked that and found that it is true, they are a registered company (see link). is that enough for me to send my money via western union?
http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/04568517.html
Any recommendations, experts?
mohgdeisat said:
Any recommendations, experts?
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Personally I wouldn't use it. But I am a sceptic and very cautious when it comes to money.
Have you read some of the tips to avoid scammers in the Marketplace? Some of his characteristics matches the warnings from other users.
Dave
dont do it..
one : The website is very poorly created, if he was a legitimate business he would more than likely use an e-commerce store.
two : googlemail email, hotmail msn, mobile numbers as contact numbers, meaning no trace back.
three : the address... he lives in a very remote place....
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...106062,0.16977&spn=0.001101,0.003455&t=h&z=18
four : a UK company trading in dollars? considering the seller would stitch himself up on the exchange rate this is definately something to question...
five : in looking up the details etc he posts randomly on forums and seems very similar to the typical
"we are an established company founded in "DATE" we are respectable and blah blah blah"
be careful.
oh and six? why western union?
and check this out..
http://www.adoos.de/post/5888156/apple_macbook_air_core_2_duo_186_ghz_133_quot_2_gb
hmmmm
Its a SCAM.
Just been on tv in Denmark. Guys like that want you to transfer through a Money Transfer Company - and then you cannot find them afterwards as those Companies dont know who gets the money.
So in Denmark the word is; NEVER transfer any money that way. Only use reliable companies - payment through credit card as we can get money back if it is a scam...
And - they use webhotels in good countries as a cheat, but are often living i Romania and places like that... !
definately looks like another scam...be careful!
So, I am not gonna do it. He called me today asking for the money and I told him I'll send the money on monday! he was not talking like a sales guy, he was speaking like this: "hello, how are you? when will you send the money" he seemed to be like a bull**** on the phone, I am not going to risk it anyway!
Thanks for your advice guys, I appreciate it
I would not do it, only if I could consider that money is worth nothing to me...Western Union? legal company would use another method of payment...
And yes gmail hotmail adresses seems to be poor...
good luke and cross your fingers
I even once had trouble with Visa card, then how would you follow our order after Western Union?
If it sound to good to be true chances are it is . its got Scam Written All over it the

1€ back (70 € gathered)

Hi! it is a long time since I last flashed pcarvalho's ROMs but I think he is very much responsible for many of us being able to flash and cook 6.5 roms on our beloved but rather old polaris.
I propose a quick poll just to gather 250€ so he can continue with his production (or do what he wants). As soon as we have 250 voters we close the thread and send the euro via paypal. It is fair?
Already donated (since pcar' polaris dead):
15 € x 1 = 15: whitealien
10 € x 5 = 50: Kulen, Tamirl, vld75, fldin, masterplan_79
5 € x 1 = 5: nemiers
Willing to donate
10 €: jopost
5 users (no amount specified): cruiserrr, skumara, redirecttonothing, nemiers, squeeza
12 more not identified (please leave a message since I thougth I could get the names from the poll)
Offering 2nd hand polaris deal:
Ronok (Belgium): 150 transportation and insurance included.
Vestlink (somewhere in Europe): willing to donate his device to a polaris developer
DaRacerz, willing to sell it as well since he changes to a new phone
good idea!!
it would be a good idea to post a link to this on pcharvalo's ROM thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506043&page=733
It's been here a few days already and I just noticed it.
I believe most people, like me, only read threads they follow, and just sometimes check for new threads.
and from the name of the thread is not too understandable what it is about, so many people probably just skip it.
If somebody want to donate more please write in thread here so we can see how much we can gather. or even better just pay to pcharvalo via paypal and write that you did.
And perhaps even less than 250 € can be enough if he wants to buy a new (used) one instead of repairing his:
and he certainly does deserve a new one for all he did in Polaris development.
he lost his device trying to make ours better :-(
ready to donate
I sent 10 EUR. via PayPal
I'v used his geat ROM long time. I'v never sent money, but it is right time to make donate.
Thank you Mr. pcarvalho.
I'm honored to donate 10€ to Mr. Pcarvalho, for his fantastic's ROM's.
Thank you!!!
ready to donate
p.s. have you got positive answer from Pcarvalho, that if phone is bought that he continues development?
Well, I personally give my opinion in the subject: it is one € (or more) back for the hours he has devoted to the polaris community, not in exchange for what he may want to do in the future.
That's your option, nobody is here to judge anybody, pleope willing to give some money for the job done so far can already donate the money. If you want to donate only if he continues the development, then wait...
Polaris donation for Mr. Pcarvalho
I already sent the 10€ to Mr. Pcarvalho ( paypal ), for his fantastic's ROM's and his support to the old !!! polaris.
Thank you!!!
John
Hi all,
first of thanks for all this, i'm truly amazed at you all, i wasn't going to get a polaris cause, lets face it, its 2,5 years old and newer devices with similar price tags are available, getting one is not a very good deal (unless you have very basic nokia models, then i fully recommend it ).
but as always this community changed my way of thinking. even though my polaris died you all are working to help me get another one. so...
i'm now currently trying to find a way to fix mine (or get one that's working and in mint condition) and so all current donations will be used to get it working.
once i do get it, rom development will obviously continue. i have some kind of customization disease. all my phones are always "make it mine"...
so, thanks for those that are helping, my only regret is COM5 Branch (235XX) is currently paralyzed (more or less since my device died), that means lots of time was wasted that could have meant lots of fixes...hope i can fix that soon...
cheers
I have already donated 10€. Thanks pcarvalho.
I just ordered a new phone (the "desire" was too great ). I was going to sell my touch cruise on ebay, until I saw this topic. I can sell my device to you... I haven't figured out how much I want for it though. I think the used ones go for 100-150 nowadays.
I think it's better to send my device to somebody who knows the device and is going to develop it further, rather than some random guy. Although I know I will probably get a smaller share.
What do you think?
in appreciation of the few POLARIS chefs
Hi cruiserr!
thanks for starting this poll. I donated to pcar before, since I have been using his ROMs for quite somewhile now and they really added value to my otherwise lame phone. Unfortunately there are too many leechers out there that can not appreciate hard coding/ porting work. Still, I voted to donate again for a replacement phone for pcarvalho. However, I think sending his one to repair is not the cheapest way here - besides the ideological value. We could watch the bay for getting them around 150 maybe.
Regards
sqeeza
Ronok said:
I just ordered a new phone (the "desire" was too great ). I was going to sell my touch cruise on ebay, until I saw this topic. I can sell my device to you... I haven't figured out how much I want for it though. I think the used ones go for 100-150 nowadays.
I think it's better to send my device to somebody who knows the device and is going to develop it further, rather than some random guy. Although I know I will probably get a smaller share.
What do you think?
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Please, Ronok: send details on total cost (price + transportation + insurance if appliable) and delivery time.
Pcarvalho, can you please, inform us your preferred option? ebay, xda users 2nd hand device, local shop in Portugal, refurbishment?
cruiserrr said:
Please, Ronok: send details on total cost (price + transportation + insurance if appliable) and delivery time.
Pcarvalho, can you please, inform us your preferred option? ebay, xda users 2nd hand device, local shop in Portugal, refurbishment?
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thanks, im currently bidding on a few ones on ebay...hope to get one for less then 150 would be great at 100+transportation...im also in contact with a xda member that got an iphone and is dropping his htc...lets see how these attempts on getting a device go...
Hi all,
I'm using last-but-one ROM from April and I really enjoyed it. Next week will flash the last ROM.
I've just donated 10€ for supporting Pcarvalho and thanking him for the great effort.
Hope this will help.
Ciao
Masterplan
D-pad on 23557(fix) ROM
Hi
I want to flash the 23557(fix) rom. but is it true that the D-pad wheel is not working?
tamirl, your fist post was on the right thread, be patient ! this thread is not intended for ROM discussion, regards
cruiserrr said:
tamirl, your fist post was on the right thread, be patient ! this thread is not intended for ROM discussion, regards
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You have a point there, sorry
cruiserrr said:
Please, Ronok: send details on total cost (price + transportation + insurance if appliable) and delivery time.
Pcarvalho, can you please, inform us your preferred option? ebay, xda users 2nd hand device, local shop in Portugal, refurbishment?
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Shipping and handling costs to Portugal are about 30 € with insurance and tracking information. Without insurance and tracking it's 10 euro. Delivery time should be between 3 and 10 days.
I'd be happy with 150 € all-in (120 for the device). I can't take pictures now, because I don't have an other camera than the one on the polaris. I'll send them asap.
BTW i'm from Belgium, not Germany

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