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Sell PocketZenPhone ?

A liitle poll about PocketZenPhone.
I like to thank those who donate but I'm far from a XDA2.
To help me to buy one I think to buy PZP for 5/7€ (in fact 7€ because sale site such as handango keeps 30% of the price)
What do you think ?

I have the version 3.6, and I tried to make a donation, but Paypal doesn't support Slovenian credit cards.
So I will pay for your software for sure.
Excellent work Zendrui.
Bye by Urosh

I also had problems donating on PayPal with my American Express card - so would happily pay €7/$8.48 for your software.
I hope you get your XDA II very soon!

i think that you should but with shareware everywhere the problem is that it's often pretty easy to pay if you live in the same country or such as the person you want to pay but if you live on the northpole it's more of an issue
(not that i live on the northpole )

in this case it seems the only way to go... how much did you get by donations? can't remember the amount you mentioned here, but it's truly not going to be a 14590 bucks... that's the count of people visiting your site. imagine only the half has downloaded and everyone would have donated 1 little buck to you, that would be more than just one xda2. i think that's the world we are living in nowadays. everyone wants to get everything for free... sad story. good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world

For now I get 90€ ... if I sell it for 5/7€ maybe it could help me to approach the XDA2.
I'm not thinking to get many € but ...
Really the XDA2 is my only motivation to sell

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

like wise i can't donate because my country is not included in pay pal, i would buy it for 8$ seems like a good price but only if it had weekdays also including on/off times :lol:

I would think USD 20/15 EUR would be much more fair given the value we get.
Regards
Michael

So, where I can buy pocketzenphone? :wink:

how about having 2 PZP versions?
1. PZP lite which would be for free and only includes the basuc profile changing functions
2. PZP pro which would include all the sophisticated functions of timers and radio on/off and so on??
that way you could stand by your initial principle of free PZP while you could make some money for the XDA 2

i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story

Rabia said:
i think the fair thing to do is the following questoin
How far are you from an xdaII price? i think you have developed a perfect peice of programming very easy & fairly working fine with every body, seling it will creat more problems than solving it, like your commitment to fix bugs or update it for free for the 1st year, then you need to reply on the complains & 30% will be shared with Handango & might even to get to some legal issue you might not be aware of, so i think if we know how much you need still for an xdaII we will make sure we reach that price & therefore you get rewarded without commtment, unless you are thinking of making that a business thats a complete defferant story
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Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.

iggy said:
Well said Rabia? I liked PzP because it was freeware and that Zenduri was always available to fix the bugs and provide upgrades.
Hows about setting up some sort of PO Box that others can send a cheque or money order if their are unable to donate from their countries via PayPal. Or if anyone has another idea along these lines. My God its 2004 their are other options besides PayPal! Just my two cents.
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this is a good idea, travlers check would work with me or money wire through the bank or anything as long as we have a way

JaToAc said:
... good luck with going commercial, but think about how to protect it, if you consider too, and i'm sure we are going to see this on some warez-site soon... again sad world
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why protect it? sell it - and there will be more than enough people willing to pay. if i think of all the ppl having a pda and 99% of them have NO idea where to get warez.
i for myself would pay for it. i think 5.- is ok for a "little" tool for the pda.
regards ize|man

i bet there would be a lot of people willing to pay for pzp and i would bet up to €10 would be no problem to sell 4.x with all the funtions this build offers. i was more than happy to donate some € to zendrui in the beginning of pzp and would donate again some € if he would not go commercial. but if he is going to sell pzp count me in... but i would bet to see that on some place soon...

Hi,
I hope you got the EUR 10 from me !
I use the software regularly. It's great with my HBH 35 headset. I now do active sync only with bluetooth.
Regards, Dave

Rabias idea is the best, without doubt.
And yeah, only few people know how to get PPC warez.
But if you find it.. whoo... the possibilities - to test before buy!

:roll:

If someone find the manner to send the money from Slovenia I'll send it (7€) to Zendrui without Handango.
I think that you are right. Handango is for finding clients, but Zendrui just has clients (us). So it is stupid to give 30% to Handango only because we are not able to send the money to Zendrui.
Urosh

F...xxx... Handango.com

Well, I thought its a joke: Download protectino at handango is $6.99 FOR EVERY SINLGE PIECE OF PURCHASED SOFTWARE? At the beginnig I thought its $6.99 for ALL purchased software.
Anyone wants to start a Handango.com boykott? I would gladly join since I bought 70 applications with Handango and would have to pay hundreds of dollars to be able to download them again.
Any other good vendors? Pocketgear?

Handango is rubbish. Use pocketgear. They let you download your purchased applications whever you want, again.

I stopped using Handango about 2 years ago...they're just awful.
Unfortunately, once in a great while you find SW that is only available from them (not even the developer!) in which case you take the risk.
9/10 though I go
1) developer's website (Paypal rocks)
2) pocketgear (or smartphone.net)
I can't believe anyone would use Handango these days. The site itself it just an awful mess and a b*tch to navigate.

Applestar said:
Well, I thought its a joke: Download protectino at handango is $6.99 FOR EVERY SINLGE PIECE OF PURCHASED SOFTWARE? At the beginnig I thought its $6.99 for ALL purchased software.
Anyone wants to start a Handango.com boykott? I would gladly join since I bought 70 applications with Handango and would have to pay hundreds of dollars to be able to download them again.
Any other good vendors? Pocketgear?
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By far I think pocket gear is the best. I too thought the so called 'protecton plan' was for all software I purchase.How could they think of this!

mikechannon said:
I recently received notification of an update for software I purchased through Handango. There were problems with getting my free upgrade. However I have to say they were very quick in responding to my contact and were very helpful and polite. They also followed up to make sure everything was ok and gave me a 10% discount on future purchase.
I did take the opportunity in feedback to comment on the download protection fee as an issue that seems unfair and that they may be losing business to the likes of pocketgear.
I think sometimes we complain to the wrong people and we may forget that actually a company may genuinely wish to serve their customers and may listen to well meant criticism. Certainly Handango unlike many organisations were very responsive to my on-line contact. Many companies don't even bother to reply to on-line requests for help or complaints.
That's not to say that out of the 200,000 members here that there will be no horror stories though.
Mike
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You surely have a point there. In any case the protection plan is optional.

Can someone post the 8pen.apk

Don't ask for warez on xda
pulser_g2

No chance, its a paid app. Can always buy to try and return if you dont like.

onelegchair said:
I'd also like to see it posted. I'm not going to pay almost two dollars for a keyboard that could be a complete fail.
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You did know you can return apps you dont like back within 24 hours and get a refund.
2. Android Market Business Policies
Returns: You have 24 hours from the time of purchase (not download) to return any applications purchased from Android Market for a full refund of any applicable fees. You may only return a given application one time; if you subsequently purchase the same application again, you may not return it a second time. Where the option to return an application is available, it will be made available to you through the Android Market user interface. You may not return any Products other than applications.
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We arent supposed to ask for things like that as it is illegal..
But can someone upload a trial version of this?

no6969el said:
We arent supposed to ask for things like that as it is illegal..
But can someone upload a trial version of this?
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There isn't a trial version.

What part of "it's illegal" do you not understand? Moderators on this site, for good reason, do not put up with warez being distributed. If someone were to post it they'd be banned pretty quickly. Google is your friend.

I seriously hope you get banned for being so damned stupid as to request warez on XDA.

this dude is quite simple he's gonna get banned guaranteed lol. The market allows you to buy apps and return them within 24hours so why not just buy and try it and if u don't like it return it? Besides its two dollars. Thats 8 quarters i find more than that under my car seat lol is it that big a deal?

[APP] Gunbros - "umadbro?"

Although I quit the game I did have alot of stuff purchased. So out of curiosity I downloaded the newest update. Apparently all my stuff is gone along with every other user who updated.
Sadly I should have seen this coming because it definitely was not the first time.
Microtransactions are also way higher than the iPhone version.
Anyways just letting people know it's not a good idea to ever give Glu money.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

Edit. Nevermind they restored my stuff. Have to send them a email.
Still. Don't spend money on them.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

Supporting crap like this just makes the market worse for ever....
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hungry81 said:
Supporting crap like this just makes the market worse for ever....
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The whole world is going micro-transaction at this point simply because dev's know it's an easy way to leech money off kids using their mom's credit cards. It's sad, frustrating, and annoying. I'd rather pay $5 up front for a good app then having someone charge me $.36 for new armor or something silly like that.

marlin29311 said:
The whole world is going micro-transaction at this point simply because dev's know it's an easy way to leech money off kids using their mom's credit cards. It's sad, frustrating, and annoying. I'd rather pay $5 up front for a good app then having someone charge me $.36 for new armor or something silly like that.
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Games like Cordy still have Microtransactions even after you get the full version but at least the game is complete
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{Off topic} Why do people pirate apps?

It really annoys the hell out of me when people like to do so called *cracking apps* when they don't even know that is. Cracking means modifying the source code illegally and using the app for free which would otherwise cost money. You ARE NOT cracking it. You are STEALING it. The developers are working day-night just to make couple of cents but you on the other hand pirating it.
Just go outside and have a deep thought about it. You are willing to spend $50 easily on shopping, whereas, you don't even pay a dime for all the hard work the dev do it for you. It is just stupid. If you found a dollar on the road you wouldn't pick it, but where it comes buying $1 app you google it day and night all day long. I am not a dev but I do understand how it's like. So please please for god's sake stop piracy.

Go go sopa! or not?

Its because they are cheap and don't understand or care that it takes a lot of time and money to develop apps.
In many cases of free apps I wish there was a way to donate to the developer as I hate using something for free that I feel I should pay for.
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app

Faith in humanity: lost

There is already an off topic thread, why did you create a new one? It's just cluttering up the forum, and unnecessary, since your subject is a small matter and not worth a thread.
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RedAlertUK said:
Its because they are cheap and don't understand or care that it takes a lot of time and money to develop apps.
In many cases of free apps I wish there was a way to donate to the developer as I hate using something for free that I feel I should pay for.
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Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.

Vodka69er said:
Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.
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This.
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

No, it's not stealing.
Here's a nice link for you: plus.google.com/115208695107342318629/posts/cBxoGSEtbQW
After reading it you should go outside and have a deep thought about it

Don't think this is an issue in the large scale. I don't know anyone who would waste his time searching for a cracked app instead of paying one or two bucks for the few apps you want and need to pay for.
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kwisatz79 said:
Don't think this is an issue in the large scale. I don't know anyone who would waste his time searching for a cracked app instead of paying one or two bucks for the few apps you want and need to pay for.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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To test for a greater time than 15 mins would justify a bit of searching. PowerAMP got it right back in the day. Something like 2 weeks full version trial then you must purchase. Still the best buy I've had on Android.
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Vodka69er said:
Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.
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If you really wanted the app, you would have got the free version. I am sure that you looked for something like " how to get paid apps for free?"

There no access to credit card nor charge cards or whatever cards. So they have to use cracked apps.
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Maybe im wrong but i think that at a large scale it doesn't affect developers so much ..
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

For me the situation is quite different.
I have been stealing apps (yea, i don't affraid to admit it, but im not brave of it). Then i decided to start buying them and supporting developers (bought Cerberus and couple other).
It's maybe my problem, but im affraid to provide my credit card numbers to websites such as google wallet to let them pull the money they want. The paypal here was solution, i could charge my paypal account, so they didn't knew anything about my credit card and it was safe. BUT then wild Google Wallet appeared and there's no such option. No money transfer, no transfer from paypal, i have to provide numbers on back of my credit card. If someone in google goes mad, with the provided cc numbers he can pull as much money as he want. I know it sounds riddiculous, but I like safety. I can't relly on their good will, that thay won't abuse it.
So i stopped buying apps, as there is no way to put money on my account.

I use cracked apps just to check if they are worth the money. I treat them as demo. If I like it I buy it.Cheers
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I have no problem purchasing apps, but I do know that aside from the credit card issue, many games and apps just aren't available on playstore in many countries, these are great apps and games and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be available everywhere, maybe we should look to the causes of many people's pirated apps.
Swyped from my desire s running blindIce

jugg1es said:
I have no problem purchasing apps, but I do know that aside from the credit card issue, many games and apps just aren't available on playstore in many countries, these are great apps and games and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be available everywhere, maybe we should look to the causes of many people's pirated apps.
Swyped from my desire s running blindIce
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+1
I have to use Market ebabler, and droidVPN so I could view all of the apps on play store.
This is insane!
I've spand 100-200$ for android apps.
I'm with android since 1.5 back in 2009.
Some apps are simply overpriced and I have to find a solution does the app deserve the money, and for that reason I google it to find it for free, just for testing.

chekuhakim said:
There no access to credit card nor charge cards or whatever cards. So they have to use cracked apps.
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There are such things as prepaid credit cards. Just a hint. As an alternative some markets (not Google Play) accept also paypal etc.

Google Play with paypal, at least 20% of us will start buying apps.
I dont use many apps on my android, so buying few apps is not a problem for me. bank in in about RM10 ( 3USD+- ) on my account, and bought apps. Im a student thou. Other than that, I often buy iPad apps, even thou I jailbreak it. Jailbreak for me is only for tweaking. I even bought paid cydia apps. Same goes to my android, root/unknown source/s-off or what so ever, I dont support piracy.
Have the kaching to bought devices/gadgets but dont have the kaching to buy apps? what say you.

remusator said:
For me the situation is quite different.
I have been stealing apps (yea, i don't affraid to admit it, but im not brave of it). Then i decided to start buying them and supporting developers (bought Cerberus and couple other).
It's maybe my problem, but im affraid to provide my credit card numbers to websites such as google wallet to let them pull the money they want. The paypal here was solution, i could charge my paypal account, so they didn't knew anything about my credit card and it was safe. BUT then wild Google Wallet appeared and there's no such option. No money transfer, no transfer from paypal, i have to provide numbers on back of my credit card. If someone in google goes mad, with the provided cc numbers he can pull as much money as he want. I know it sounds riddiculous, but I like safety. I can't relly on their good will, that thay won't abuse it.
So i stopped buying apps, as there is no way to put money on my account.
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this is riddiculous! you don't feel safe to trust google wallett, but you'd trust paypal!!! there's no differencies between those two. they are both corporate giants, if you're paranoid trust neither. or better, don't be paranoid.