Just wanted to warn people about Odesk.com - Other Tools & General Discussion

I needed an Android app designed and I've no idea how to do it myself. I've used websites before to get other work done, such as website help I was stuck on. I decided to give Odesk.com a try. It's a website where I post a job, people bid on the job.
What a scam / rip-off!
I have a decent idea for an app, which I don't see out there currently. There is another device that can do what my app would do, but this is a piece of hardware for $20, when I could design the app and sell it for 99 cents.
So, I posted my job and hired someone in India. He assured me he could do what I needed. We communicated on what I wanted and I accepted his bid. My app is something small and simple, so I don't think a lot of work is required, hence the low price I was hoping to get the work done for.
I was required to pay 20% in advance, which wasn't that much, so I did it.. less than $30. I figured that was a good deal. I pay a few bucks up front to show I am serious. Another website holds the money in escrow. Not this website.
About a week or a week and a half go by and I ask the guy how things are coming along. I had given my project a deadline to be finished by next month. No answer from the person, but a few days later he replies that my app is all done, here you go, job marked as finished.
First off, how the hell can someone just mark a job as completed just because some other guy says it is? What about me? I don't get a say on whether it's completed or not?
I was surprised he finished it. I was thinking it would be something I could alpha or beta test. If things went well I would provide a splash screen he could insert in the beginning. But to my surprise it booted up with a name and a logo already.
He STOLE the software from another website! Just typing the name of the app in the web pulls up their website. The app doesn't even do what I want. Sure, it has similar elements, but it doesn't do what I want. All he did was rename their APK to my name.
The seller will not respond and Odesk not will refund my money. They warn you to not make a pre payment of any amount, yet they allow people to request a pre payment and their system allows you to pay, even though no work was finished.
I have an investigation going on with Odesk. If they spend two seconds they'd see that the guy stole the software and could refund my money. That could take awhile, so I went ahead and filed a claim with my credit card company, lodged a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
Anyway, I thought I'd warn people not to use this site. I've used freelancer.com before, previously vworker.com, previously rentacoder.com with no issues, but since they switched to freelancer.com I think their rates went up is why I don't use them and am looking for another place.
If anyone knows a place to get an app designed for a fair price (not game), lemme know.

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XDA Flint for sale

Hi guys. I'm selling my Flint...here it is:
link
Yeah, it's a bit cheeky, but when it's gone, it's gone...so hurry
If I saw this 3 weeks ago I would have gone for it surely
knowing HTC Athena 2 due out soon, I now prefers to wait till Athena 2 released.
best of luck! I did best offer you on that auction, but was declined.
Yeah too right it was declined. People offering me silly money. Think I'm stupid??? If people don't want to pay what these things are worth, they should either forget it and get a device that suits their budget, or wait a couple of years until it drops to the price you want to pay (judging by the offers, it'll be about 10 years!! ), instead of wasting my time and looking a little bit foolish...
Anyway it's still for sale if anybody's interested. Link updated and slightly reduced price.
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
Can you still actually leave buyers negative feedback? I thought that had been stopped by ebay.
Ponder said:
Things to take into account:
Is it Simlocked to O2? I bought mine new and sim-free last year for £624 so if locked might be considered expensive for a second-hand item when you consider if anything goes wrong with it, they'd have to go through you go get it repaired.
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O2 do not, and never have SIM locked their Windows Mobile devices. The Flint is pretty much the standard HTC offering, though the current ROM does not have the HTC Home front end.
O2 also tend to do warranty repairs based on the IMEI, so do not necessarily need the original owner to mediate things, as long as you are using an O2 SIM.
It seems amazing that prices seem to vary from around £320 to well over £500 on Ebay.
Thanks for clearing that up, if I were in the market it'd justify the cost for me.
Maybe if matmaneyre could point these things out in the item description it'd clear things up to the public in general and bring about a quicker sale
I still don't think it's possible to leave negative feedback to a buyer though, especially one with whom no transaction has actually occurred.
Yes- you're right. Ebay changed the rules at the end of last year, for better or worse, though as you say, it was never possible to leave FB for someone who didn't actually buy.
With Ebay, the content of the advert say's an awful lot about the product and the seller
I thought about buying that from you off of eBay.
Something doesn’t quite feel right about that auction.
You say it’s an upgrade, yet it’s not available as an upgrade!? Also you say it’s too complicated for you but it’s no more complicated than any other Windows mobile device.
Maybe I’m paranoid but...
To be honest, by 'too complicated for me' I really meant not quite right for me, as it has too many features I am not going to use, and I think I would be better off cashing in and getting something more suitable to my needs. Hope that clears it up a bit. I'd have put that in the description, but it seems to take so long to create a good listing just the way you want it, minor things that the everyday person browsing for such a device just get overlooked when you preview your listing before submitting it. Once you get to a stage where you think it sounds and looks good enough, you kinda just go with it.
As you say, it's no more complicated than any other WM device. It is available as an upgrade through O2, but strictly only to business customers. They are extremely hard to get hold of otherwise. I hounded them literally everyday for a month because I returned my faulty Serra (see my signature) and they couldn't offer me an equal or better replacement. All their Serras were out of stock - really messed me about for 4 weeks. In the end they backed down as there was nothing else they could offer me.
They don't know their ear from their elbow.
And I didn't realise you couldn't leave negative feedback to a buyer as luckily I've never been in a situation where I'd want to, although that's really only on there to make people think seriously before submitting an offer. I don't want to be relisting all the time for the sake of someone not reading the buyer restrictions or trying to scam me.
Hope that explains a few things...if you're still wary,. check my feedback. I've sold all my WM devices of the last 5 years on ebay (see sig again!) And see my postcount and view my posts too. I am a real, genuine human!!
Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
In general section is a thread called Buy & Sell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434069
Let´s use it for that porpose
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Thanks everyone for the helpful info (didn't realise there was no simlock either!)
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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You're welcome, and IMO (for what that's worth) totally genuine.
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Thanks for that, means a lot!
I didn't realise there was a buy and sell section. Thanks for that. If a mod would like to move me, feel free.
Anyway, relisted (again), updated link (again) and reduced (again)!
SOLD now, thanks.

TIP: Review your wireless bill

I'm not sure if this has been discussed (if it has and it's been buried, it's probably about time we discuss this again).
I'm looking around the AT&T bloatware (which I'm hoping to remove soon) and touched the Where (W) app. The Terms of Service (TOS) pops up. Some of us will just touch OK right away. Some of us will read. On my first Cap, I just touched OK and quickly saw what Where was about. Didn't like it. Never used it again. I returned my device due to GPS and Power issues and got my replacement Cap. I launched Where again while playing around and this time I read the TOS. In red, it says that if I continue to use this service and if I don't cancel within 7 days, I will be charged $2.99 per month. It also gives me a website to review all of my mobile app subscriptions. I checked out the site and found 3 subscriptions of $2.99, $2.99 and $4.99 per month that I have been paying. I don't remember at all how they got there. They were services I have never even heard of which I don't use.
Review your bill! On AT&T online billing, click "View Full Bill". Scroll to the bottom of the page under "Mobile Purchases & Downloads". See if you've been subscribed to something you didn't even know about.
Addendum: Call or Chat with an agent and have them install their Free "Subscription Block" to your account. It prevents any fee-based monthly services from automatically activating without your knowledge. You will be given a code when AT&T puts this block in effect. When you decide to download an App that requires a purchase or sign up with a fee-based service, you can then use that code to make the purchase.
My bill day is 8/21 and here it is 5 days later... i still can't view the actual charges online. wish i could
I think it's to be expected by now to be charged a monthly fee if you plan on using any of AT&T's bloatware. Personally, I refuse to even open any of their programs for fear of having random charges on my bill. Just avoid them until you get them uninstalled.
From a business perspective it makes absolute sense why they do this. The general population has no idea of the free alternatives. These same people won't notice or care to check out their monthly bill's when an extra 2.99 is tacked on every month. I bet AT&T makes a killing off this stuff.
I agree, when I sold phones they offered a ton of free stuff, as in free for one month and then you started getting charged a couple bucks.
I was nice enough to tell the people to call and cancel the services if they didn't want them but most reps didn't even mention it.
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Review your bill! On AT&T online billing, click "View Full Bill". Scroll to the bottom of the page under "Mobile Purchases & Downloads". See if you've been subscribed to something you didn't even know about.
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Couldn't find what you're pointing to here. The Mobile Purchases and Downloads part.
You're probably fine then. I guess if you haven't (knowingly or unknowingly) made an online purchase or download, then maybe it doesn't show up. You're probably ok.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I did click on the Where app once though, so I was curious. Hopefully nothing went through. That last part about the confirmation code to prevent auto subs though is a good idea.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I did click on the Where app once though, so I was curious. Hopefully nothing went through. That last part about the confirmation code to prevent auto subs though is a good idea.
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When did you launch the Where app? It probably won't show until a few days later. If you have successfully launched it it's guaranteed that you will be charged $2.99 per month if you don't have the purchase block feature and if you haven't canceled within the 7 days grace period. Just look out for it in a few days.
This was a couple weeks ago. I think it was even before I got my monthly bill. Hopefully I'm set and don't have to worry about it.
Also, I tried the last part in your original post about talking to a live rep and having someone put that auto-subscription block on the account.. the rep never even heard of it and directed me to call customer service instead.
Hmm
I stupidly clicked on Where. Now how do I cancel it?
Thanks for the heads up. I found 2 charges on my bill for them called att up and had them cancel it as I couldn't find where on my account I could cancel them. I also added the block to my line as I already had it on my daughters line.
Funny thing is that I work for verizonwireless and know all about this and see it every day but I fell victim to it. They credited me back for the charges which I wasn't expecting at all.
Glad I can help.
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I stupidly clicked on Where. Now how do I cancel it?
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Call your agent and ask about the Mobile Purchases and Downloads. They should know about this. Not all agents know, as we have read so far. But mine was able to refund and put a block. I had I'm a happy camper!

Sears never charged me for my G-tab . . .

I bought my G-tab online Nov. 1 via PayPal, received the tablet, and assumed the transaction went through. I just checked and they never took the money! The transaction expired Friday and is listed as "Canceled" now.
Anyone ever experienced this? I kinda want to call them to see why they didn't take the money. But, I kinda don't wanna tempt fate and look a $398.99 gift horse in the mouth either! LOL!
Thoughts???
It may sound strange and ethical, but I would call them.
call me whatever you like but I would most definitely not call them.
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Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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Not that easily... if they called me about it that would be different, it was their mistake. call it karma for having such a piece of **** return policy... I'm going under the assumption that you bought it from sears online. if it was from an individual or something my morals might come into play
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Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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That's interesting considering you've probably intentionally voided your product warranty by making software mods using roms illegally ported from other devices. An probably side loade d hundreds of apks for which you didn't pay the developer and most likely skimmed from a wares or torrent site, or Applanet.net.
Sound like a huge case of situational ethics to me buddy. Pick a position. If you feel so much guilt about things, delete your xda account and keep it moving.
id let them know, personally. when you start taking an active role in karma, as another stated in this thread, then karma starts taking an active role in your life. ive had way too many run-ins with karma to tempt fate again.
but hey, thats just me.
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That's interesting considering you've probably intentionally voided your product warranty by making software mods using roms illegally ported from other devices. An probably side loade d hundreds of apks for which you didn't pay the developer and most likely skimmed from a wares or torrent site, or Applanet.net.
Sound like a huge case of situational ethics to me buddy. Pick a position. If you feel so much guilt about things, delete your xda account and keep it moving.
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that's actually not even a valid argument except for installing non-paid for apps.
What you do to a device you own is your choice. You can flash anything you want to it if you choose....as long as you don't expect a warranty replacement if you screw it up. If I want to flash my toaster oven with the firmware from my microwave......more power to me. But when my toaster oven no longer works, it's my fault not the manufacturers.
Now getting a toaster oven you didn't pay for is a totally different argument (the original poster's).
Sorry OP, but it's called theft of a material item. You knew that you didn't pay for it, but are keeping it anyways. Of course, many companies tack on extra charges for services and steal from consumers, so it's a gray area. I guess if you look at it from the standpoint of "business is business" then it's fair. Dunno what to say.
Thanks for the input. All is well. I'm returning the device & will let them figure out what to do. Anyone in the Richmond, VA area looking for a clearance item, check the Virginia Center Commons Sears location later this week.
Good call... You are doing the right thing.... Why are you returning?
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Good call... You are doing the right thing.... Why are you returning?
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Thanks. I also have an Archos 101 8gb that I've been comparing the last week. Sticking with the 101 and awaiting the 2.2 update.
I can tell you have good morals, why else post that you got it lol.If you honestly intended on keeping it, you shouldn't or wouldn't have said anything to anyone.
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Yes, not calling them and taking a free GTab will help our economy. /sarcasm
It happened to me, I called to ask about my order being placed and available, shortly after I was charged. I had received my pickup email already, so I'm sure if I had picked up the order and said nothing, it would have not been charged.
In a perfect world, when you called to tell them about the error they should have said "we appreciate your honesty and we will not charge you because of it, consider this a gift". You win, and they win as you would be more likely to be a return customer.

[Q] Charged for a "Free" phone

Hey guys,
About a month ago (Jan 20 I seem to recall) T-Mobile had an offer where you could get a free upgrade to a G2, only on their website.
My family had three G1s on our plan that were past due for an upgrade, since December, so we jumped at this offer.
We couldn't get the site to work, however, so we called in and a representative assured us that we would be able to get the three phones for free. We would have to call back the next day to do so, though.
After calling back the next day, we received another representative who told us that the offer was an error and shouldn't have been put online. Our response was simple- That's your problem, we agreed with the other representative in good faith and we should not have to pay for an error on your end.
After waiting about a week for that other representative to look at the call logs (which he never found, by the way), he called back and told us that since we've been waiting for so long and he never found the logs, we could have all three phones for free. We already knew there was an upgrade fee of $18 that we would have to pay, that's fine.
Now, a month later, on our bill we have three charges of "One Time charge for Handset Upgrade Revenue" that amount to $199.00 each. That makes our total bill for this month a whopping $1000.
This is far from "free" that we were promised. I am hoping it's a mistake on their end, but if I call them up and they start throwing in all of these excuses and explanations for why a "free" phone isn't free, is there some sort of agency for Customer Fair Treatment or something that we can report them to, or is there legal action that we can take?
Please, if you have any other advice or tips, it is greatly welcomed.
Hope to hear a response.
-Proxin
Sorry to hear about this. I've had a few issues with tmobile in the past 5 years i've been a customer, they've always been pretty good about resolving things to my satisfaction. I'd suggest a few things:
-If you have a twitter account, tweet something about your problem to @tmobile. It might not sound like much, but tmobile has some very active people working on twitter. When i had an issue around a year ago with my minutes and texts vanishing without being used, a tweet was really all it took to get the ball rolling. I got a direct message back within an hour, and recived a call the next day to let me know the glitch was fixed and offered me compensation.
-The Consumeris (consumerist.com) is a consumer advocacy blog. I've seen lots of stories on there similar to what you're dealing with (many from other providers too). From the stories i've read companies such as tmobile pay close enough attention to the site, and are quick to resolve any kind of issues that could result in bad press.
-If all else fails, last i checked tmobile offers a buyers remorse period of 30 days (might be less), if you arent happy with your phone for any reason, you can return it within that time.
I'd reccomend calling them and telling them if the issue can not be fixed you would like to return the phones. Another thing to maybe metion, if you where up for new phones, then your contract must have also been renewed, perhaps this could be considered a breach of contract on their part and you could mention that in a way that suggests you're thinking of ditching your contract over this (just say something like "verizon has the same deal in store").
Hope some of that helps. Good luck!
Honestly, if they can't fix the issue, tell them you want to be transfered to the loyalty department because you want to cancel. Those guys can fix anything. If you still aren't happy, file a claim with the better business bureau.
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Agreed, call customer service and get with the "omgtheyregoingtocancelwtf" department and they will likely fix it. That or give the phones back. If they made a mistake they made a mistake, it doesn't entitle you to anything... if they are willing to fix it and let you keep them, then awesome.
More importantly though...
_____$1000 phone bill
_____-$199 G2
_____-$199 G2
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$403 phone bill?!? what the hell?
File complaints with both the BBB and FCC. I had an issue with Sprint not honoring a discount coupon I used when I signed up and kept getting the runaround, but a BBB and FCC complaint led to someone higher up to contact me and get the matter resolved. Based on some google searching, it does appear T-Mobile responds to FCC complaints.
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Sorry to hear about this. I've had a few issues with tmobile in the past 5 years i've been a customer, they've always been pretty good about resolving things to my satisfaction. I'd suggest a few things:
-If you have a twitter account, tweet something about your problem to @tmobile. It might not sound like much, but tmobile has some very active people working on twitter. When i had an issue around a year ago with my minutes and texts vanishing without being used, a tweet was really all it took to get the ball rolling. I got a direct message back within an hour, and recived a call the next day to let me know the glitch was fixed and offered me compensation.
-The Consumeris (consumerist.com) is a consumer advocacy blog. I've seen lots of stories on there similar to what you're dealing with (many from other providers too). From the stories i've read companies such as tmobile pay close enough attention to the site, and are quick to resolve any kind of issues that could result in bad press.
-If all else fails, last i checked tmobile offers a buyers remorse period of 30 days (might be less), if you arent happy with your phone for any reason, you can return it within that time.
I'd reccomend calling them and telling them if the issue can not be fixed you would like to return the phones. Another thing to maybe metion, if you where up for new phones, then your contract must have also been renewed, perhaps this could be considered a breach of contract on their part and you could mention that in a way that suggests you're thinking of ditching your contract over this (just say something like "verizon has the same deal in store").
Hope some of that helps. Good luck!
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Interesting... I don't think the buyers' remorse thing would work, cause we have had the phones for over 30 days... and offering to give them back would be bad on our end because honestly, we love these new phones!
But yeah, the breach of contract you mentioned is a good point. We renewed our contracts so that we could get these phones, and if they take the phones back yet keep us locked in contract, I'm certain that the groups mentioned by the other posts (BBB and FCC) could help us out.
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Honestly, if they can't fix the issue, tell them you want to be transfered to the loyalty department because you want to cancel. Those guys can fix anything. If you still aren't happy, file a claim with the better business bureau.
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Awesome. It makes me happy that there are companies who are willing to stick up for customers.
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Agreed, call customer service and get with the "omgtheyregoingtocancelwtf" department and they will likely fix it. That or give the phones back. If they made a mistake they made a mistake, it doesn't entitle you to anything... if they are willing to fix it and let you keep them, then awesome.
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_____-$199 G2
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That Does make it look like less, haha. To clarify-
$199 x 3 = 600.00
+ 120.00 tax
+ 250.00 phone bill
+ 18.00 upgrade fee x 3
plus various charges
= $1000
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File complaints with both the BBB and FCC. I had an issue with Sprint not honoring a discount coupon I used when I signed up and kept getting the runaround, but a BBB and FCC complaint led to someone higher up to contact me and get the matter resolved. Based on some google searching, it does appear T-Mobile responds to FCC complaints.
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Thank you very much. I hope either or both of these can help if the situation turns into something nasty.
I have to harass them to make sure they apply discounts or whatever, and they tried to wiggle out of my student discount when I activated my line...
Ah well. They're almost half the price of Verizon and my service is pretty good here.
We just called T-Mobile and a representative confirmed it was a mistake and dropped the charges.
We still have to wait until the next billing cycle to see for sure, but I think this has been resolved.
Thank you all for your advice and replies.
Best,
Proxin
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yeah ://....happened to me a couple of times there..

sending sk4g to cyanogen

UPDATE: haven't heard anything from cyanogen or other devs. if you are able to make contact and get a confirmation either way from any of the devs, please let me know (email / pm / in this thread), and we can move forward. until then, hold off on the donations.
so it looks like no progress is going to be made on this phone unless we send the cm devs a phone. even then, there's no guarantee that they'll work on porting cm to it, but i think it's worth a shot.
there's an sk4g on ebay, buy it now, for $160, couple days left. seller has a 100% rating. http://goo.gl/rsStz i'll buy the phone and send it to cm, assuming we raise the funds in time. we'll look for a phone when we get confirmation. at a minimum, the phone has to be in working condition.
i've never done something like this, and this whole thing might be against xda rules or something, but here's how i'm guessing it should work:
1. raise funds via paypal using my email address "spamziq" at gmail dot com. note that there's a way to do this without incurring fees: http://www.insulators.info/general/paypal.htm
2. buy phone
3. get phone, send to steve kondik (or another appropriate dev); would obviously need an address
4. post confirmation here
5. wait
if not enough funds are raised before the auction is over, or some other snafu occurs, each contributor is refunded his money.
if cm devs return it, i sell it and dispense the money to contributors according to their original percentage of contribution?
what do y'all think?
I'm not sure it would help. Steve has been hired by Samsung (http://www.theverge.com/2011/08/15/samsung-hires-cyanogenmod-founder-steve-kondik/ ) so I'm guessing that he can easily have access to the device if he wants to work on it; you may want to check with him before organizing that.
Find a dev and confirm that they will work on it given a phone before starting anything. Don't raise the money to find that noone will work on it.
I should have some money in less than 1.5 months, and I can help donate. It looks like you can get one on eBay for about $150 USD for Buy It Now. I will be willing to donate $75 to the cause, but how do we know if the person on the receiving end of the cash-flow for this is trustworthy?
(Should we start a thread for donations that are verified, or what?)
We can also use Chase's Person-to-Person Quickpay... if two or more people have a Chase account, of course.
There is a thread. On this forum for a bounty btw there is cm beta out on some thread on xda
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A xda search for "cyanogen sidekick" (no quotes) returns many threads.
Care to link it?
Yeah lemme get my computer. Its some beta for froyo http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265765 just need some reverse enginerring i guess
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I donated a few bucks from my PayPal account. Hope it helps!! (If not, please send it back!)
(It was "Buy me Coffee" money sent to me from another site, so nothing personal lost on my end, if Wu turns out to be unreliable)
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Find a dev and confirm that they will work on it given a phone before starting anything. Don't raise the money to find that noone will work on it.
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This. Please do this.
^Yes best idea ever!^
ncmacasl said:
I donated a few bucks from my PayPal account. Hope it helps!! (If not, please send it back!)
(It was "Buy me Coffee" money sent to me from another site, so nothing personal lost on my end, if Wu turns out to be unreliable)
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hey all, i haven't been able to get any confirmation from steve about whether he'd work on this, so chill for a bit. i'm hoping others can get a yes/no from either him or other devs (i don't know of the others) before this goes forward. so far ncmacasl has donated a few bucks, which is pretty cool, but i'm refunding it. gonna update the OP.
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I'm not sure it would help. Steve has been hired by Samsung (http://www.theverge.com/2011/08/15/samsung-hires-cyanogenmod-founder-steve-kondik/ ) so I'm guessing that he can easily have access to the device if he wants to work on it; you may want to check with him before organizing that.
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Could this also mean that because he is working with/for Samsung, that he may have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement, and cannot participate in anything "Samsung related" outside of his normal "Samsung Duties"?
I have pondered on this...
Also, I keep seeing fully functional devices (cosmetic issues only, like scratches to the cover) all for 149-150 via Buy It Now. These would save the "investors" in the device $10 amongst them. Just saying.
Would this work, providing that the funds are not collected ahead of time:
I buy a SK4g, and when I get half my money back (from your donations), I will send it to them?
Does that sound good, as my lady and I both have the same phone?
Does the device have to be flawless to send to them, or just in working condition (cosmetic issues OK)?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Sid...0784571883?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2a1799a5eb THIS just has a bit of nail polish smeared on it and is guaranteed functional...
Edit: Oh, and I have a Friend who's daughter could also benefit from the more Open Android cook..
Yes, I got the refund. thanks Kevin (yes the guy is trustworthy!)
wuziq said:
UPDATE: haven't heard anything from cyanogen or other devs. if you are able to make contact and get a confirmation either way from any of the devs, please let me know (email / pm / in this thread), and we can move forward. until then, hold off on the donations.
so it looks like no progress is going to be made on this phone unless we send the cm devs a phone. even then, there's no guarantee that they'll work on porting cm to it, but i think it's worth a shot.
there's an sk4g on ebay, buy it now, for $160, couple days left. seller has a 100% rating. http://goo.gl/rsStz i'll buy the phone and send it to cm, assuming we raise the funds in time. we'll look for a phone when we get confirmation. at a minimum, the phone has to be in working condition.
i've never done something like this, and this whole thing might be against xda rules or something, but here's how i'm guessing it should work:
1. raise funds via paypal using my email address "spamziq" at gmail dot com. note that there's a way to do this without incurring fees: http://www.insulators.info/general/paypal.htm
2. buy phone
3. get phone, send to steve kondik (or another appropriate dev); would obviously need an address
4. post confirmation here
5. wait
if not enough funds are raised before the auction is over, or some other snafu occurs, each contributor is refunded his money.
if cm devs return it, i sell it and dispense the money to contributors according to their original percentage of contribution?
what do y'all think?
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If you are sending e-mail and your e-mail addy contains "spam" then you are likely to get sent to a spam folder on the recipient's provider, or the e-mail is likely to get dropped all together. I know this because "spam" is in most of my e-mail addys too, even my main ones. (Even Chase had to change their filtering because of this stating that they couldn't send me e-mail, and I told them it is the only one I have, THEY need to fix their as it worked BEFORE their changes...)
Did you use the addy you listed to send them e-mail for info/communication?
the86d said:
Did you use the addy you listed to send them e-mail for info/communication?
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i only contacted cyanogen by sending him a tweet @cyanogen. i'm not sure who the other devs are. that's why i'm hoping there are others here who might know who else to contact, and who can make the contact themselves. i think more inquiries is better, because not only could it help to ensure we get a response, but it'd also give a hint as to how much demand there is for the sk4g.
We need someone who specializes in kernels . If there was a kernel for gingerbread we would be alot closer to many goals.
jim93 said:
We need someone who specializes in kernels . If there was a kernel for gingerbread we would be alot closer to many goals.
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There is one. The Galaxy S 4G has the EXACT same processor as the SK, and was recently upgraded to Gingerbread. So a kernel is available. The problem, according to Sduvick, is that the drivers are coded differently, namely the display. We could base a GB rom on the GS4G's code, but it would essentially take a complete ground-up rewrite of drivers.
Is it just the display driver? Wouldnt we need drivers to have cm7 on this phone?
There were a couple of others, for one the camera. You'd need to PM sduvick and ask him. He's the only one to date that I know of who has even attempted to compile the code from the SGS4G.
I should have some extra money soon...
Has anyone made contact with Cyanogen Devs to query them on if this would be worked on if one of these was sent to them?

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