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i am runing WM5 version 1.6c the Storage memory shows 1 mega while the program memory shows 100 mega...but i am not able to install programs i get a message says not enough memory.....please help what is the problem....thankx
Are you new to WM5?
No Dear....but i was thinking that the program memory shown at the memory screen for the program installation....but i found that the paert of Storage is the one where the installed programs go.....so what is the usage of the Program part of the memory and how can i increase the size of the memory allocated to programs installation.
best regards
I've same problem with you. In my xda, I just have 2MB free storage. Maybe anybody can help us to increase our storage
I know this was a problem in WM5, but is there any way in WM6 to force it to use more memory for Programme's instead of Storage.
I have 20 MB for storage, but only <10 MB for memory.
The problem is that is get a lof of "out of memory" errors when I'm using iGO (SE) and therefore want more 'real' memory to work with (I do not use 20 for storage)
Anyone got a "tweak / software / trick" to do this?
Storage is flash, program is RAM. The two are totally different on WM5 and newer devices compares to WM2003se and older devices.
The Himalaya is not an example of tweaking the allocation as this was not a WM5 device.
AlanJC said:
Storage is flash, program is RAM. The two are totally different on WM5 and newer devices compares to WM2003se and older devices.
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Yes, I know that in wm2003 you could easely change the amount between these two. I noticed that everytime WM5/WM6 is started there was a different mount of flash/ram, so WM is changing this every time ?!?! (so you could manuputalte this?)
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The Himalaya is not an example of tweaking the allocation as this was not a WM5 device.
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What do you mean with that (I have a universal / T-mobile MDA pro)?!
The only WM5 device you can change the amount of RAM vs Storage is the Himalaya, this is because it was a WM2003 device and it used RAM for both storage, and RAM to run apps in.
WM5 devices don't use RAM to store things in, just the partitioned area of ROM.
You can not use ROM to run things, you only have the RAM, so if you are running out of space, your only option is to run less.
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You can not use ROM to run things
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Unless, the universal had NOR based ROM, which could XIP
Storage vs. Program memory
Liquid said:
I know this was a problem in WM5, but is there any way in WM6 to force it to use more memory for Programme's instead of Storage.
I have 20 MB for storage, but only <10 MB for memory.
The problem is that is get a lof of "out of memory" errors when I'm using iGO (SE) and therefore want more 'real' memory to work with (I do not use 20 for storage)
Anyone got a "tweak / software / trick" to do this?
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Man! You would have read my mind! I was discussing the very same subject this morning with a friend of mine, but unfortunately he was unable to explain (he's a nokia freak), so I could save a new thread by sharing my views over here.
My query was if Uni has got 128ROM and 64RAM, Eten M700 has got 128ROM and 64RAM. Now, how does the respective reading be Program Total: 48.07 MB & Storage Total: 43.72 MB (cooked rom below)? Whereas M700 has got 128ROM and 64RAM, reading is Program 47.52 MB & Storage 70.24 MB!
If I drop a ringtone or copy an image or even an application, would it utilises storage or program? If I install a cab file, would it go to program or storage? I am facing a terrible issue when I use couple of applications even after closing them, I lose about 10 MB! I know some cooked ROMs had a program memory of 52 MB!
Any one could explain?
BTW, what's XIP?
Cyber-mate said:
If I drop a ringtone or copy an image or even an application, would it utilises storage or program?
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Storage. WM5+ uses 'storage' to store apps
Cyber-mate said:
If I install a cab file, would it go to program or storage?
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Again, storage(this includes other storage media like extended rom and storage card)
Cyber-mate said:
BTW, what's XIP?
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XIP=eXecute In Place. This is a common property of NOR based flash media. NAND based flash media cannot XIP. XIP lets the apps to execute in the ROM itself.
XIP is mostly used by Palm in their Treos to store the OS
kdskamal said:
Storage. WM5+ uses 'storage' to store apps
Again, storage(this includes other storage media like extended ROM and storage card)
XIP=execute In Place. This is a common property of NOR based flash media. NAND based flash media cannot XIP. XIP lets the apps to execute in the ROM itself.
XIP is mostly used by Palm in their Treos to store the OS
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Big thank you for the explain. Now, what about the difference in total memory reading among different PDAs?
hi all,
can we do BIG Storage Rom for Universal like we did in Magician? wouldn't it be awesome if we could squeeze more storage space out of JASJAR/Universal?
charlietruong said:
hi all,
can we do BIG Storage Rom for Universal like we did in Magician? wouldn't it be awesome if we could squeeze more storage space out of JASJAR/Universal?
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search for "unlock ext rom" or "unlock extended rom"
charlietruong said:
hi all,
can we do BIG Storage Rom for Universal like we did in Magician? wouldn't it be awesome if we could squeeze more storage space out of JASJAR/Universal?
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Big Storage manages WM2003 RAM "converting it" in internal storage.
There's no such thing for WM5 and therefore for universal.
To have that kind of app would be great, but is very unlike someone developes such app, because WM2003 and WM5 have completly diferent ways to manage memory...
Actually what they are talking about is the process in older wm2003/wm5 devices of re-partitioning the NAND/NOR so that the Extended ROM doesnt exist and it's space is used as storage
I think mamaich made this work on Universal but he never released anything
Big storage
Hi,
Sound cool, I'm interested!
Leo
Thanks. I tried the Unlock Ext ROM thing but all i got was an extra 9MB. In the Magician, I got a whoppy 26MB extra. I know they're 2 different units using 2 different OS's but should the Extra storage in the Universal be bigger since it's a more sophisticated unit? On my JASJAR under the Device Info. it says:
RAM size: 64MB
Flash size: 128MB
Storage size: 43.50MB
on my Magician/IMate Jam
Ram size: 64MB
Flash size: 64MB
Storage size: 26.72 MB
Shouldn't we get at least 43MB of extra storage on the Universal? Out of curiosity, can Universal run the WM2003? I really want to try to see if it does the same trick for the Magician. Any suggestions?
Hey guys,
Does anyone know how to change the 'program' and 'storage' memory size.
I know you can change it a little by making the pagepool smaller, but now I am having like 60MB free of storage memory, but only 12MB of program memory.
It would be very nice if I was able to change those sizes! I probably have to edit some hex value (just like changing pagepool), but I have no idea with ones.
I have looked all over the internet, but could find anything usefull. Am probably using the wrong search text...
Thanks in advance
gert_beekman said:
Hey guys,
Does anyone know how to change the 'program' and 'storage' memory size.
I know you can change it a little by making the pagepool smaller, but now I am having like 60MB free of storage memory, but only 12MB of program memory.
It would be very nice if I was able to change those sizes! I probably have to edit some hex value (just like changing pagepool), but I have no idea with ones.
I have looked all over the internet, but could find anything usefull. Am probably using the wrong search text...
Thanks in advance
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hey, that's really a nice idea. I would be interested too in this. I am using WM6.
Thanks
There are programs around for RAM to storage, but not the other way around. ROM cooks have hacked nk.exe to get more RAM, but minimal amounts (check out ANRYL, kaiser section)
you can't REALLY have more ram. RAM and Storage are different wafers.. RAM is read as fast as possible.. "virtually" reading RAM from Storage is pointless since it reads as fast as it would read from storage.
Hi all,
sorry if this has been posted already. looked around on google etc but to no avail.
i seem to be always running low on Storage space for installed programs on the internal memory. plenty left on storage card which is fine for installing games and other apps.
however for screen mods and themes etc i.e BSB tweaks, CHT etc. I always install on the phone memory, which is now running very low.
ive tried removing all cabs no longer in use or used rarley and still have little memory, plenty of spare memory under program but not in storage (on main memory)
so im looking for an alternative to the standard 'remove programs' function which will identify what cabs are installed to the internal memory and what is installed to memory card.
or alternativly a way or transfering some of the internal program storage over to the main storage.
this will save me having to do a hard re set to restore all storage space and re install cabs again etc.
im running standard WWE 1.48.405.2 Vodafone ROM, Radio 2.05.51.05_2 on WM6.5, HD2, any help is much appreciated, thanks, Batez
use pocket mechanic to transfer applications (which phone mechanic is able to transfer) from main memory to the storage card. This app is not free though but works a treat. Not sure if there are any free apps out there which can do something similar.
Thanks Mate
adamjee said:
use pocket mechanic to transfer applications (which phone mechanic is able to transfer) from main memory to the storage card. This app is not free though but works a treat. Not sure if there are any free apps out there which can do something similar.
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Thanks Adamjee, this looks like the app for me should do the trick, and with the other functions available i think its worth the cash, although i may keep searching for a free alternaitve first ill let you know if i find anything. now i know the sort of software im looking for will defo help me in my search. much appreciated Adam.
Ty, Chris