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...ABOUT RAM IN 2005...

i have two questions about ram in 2005
first:
in 2005 version ram is used to run program ,so 128MB ram is all to program run.but i found one picture that 96 MB is given to program ,and another 32MB is given to some storage .
second:
according to the first question,sms is stored in ram or rom?and what about the other installed program?
thanks...

First Answer:
There are some versions of the XDA II rom modified by Buzz_Lightyear that convert a portion of the RAM on the device into additional storage memory. They loose the advantage of persistant storage, but gain additional space. Since I have yet to find an app for the device that really needs 128MB of run-time memory (Most I have managed to get my device up to is 80MB) this isn't too bad a trade-off (In my opinion).
Second Answer:
SMS, e-mails, contacts, and installed programs are stored in ROM (Or on the ramdisk if you have allocated part of the RAM as such.
Hope this helps!
Robert Harrold

THANK YOU
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Nice to find you here, nomad.... I am finding 1.6c with 96mb Ram vision.

Ram On WM 2005
Hello All , I've managed to install the "WM2k5_1.60c.00WWE_XDA2_HIMALAYA" Rom on my Xda II (previous O/S was 2003 se)
As I've been browsing the forum it seems that most have apprx 32mb of storage space available but on mine i see only 14.54 and after unlocking Extended Rom I can see many files in there from (what I imagine to be) left over by my previous WM 2003 se . My question is . . . Why was this not deleted and added to the storage memory when i upgraded to WM 2005 and can anyone please explain to me how to go about adding/merging it with my Storage .
Any help would be much appreciated , Thank You

I've got the same issue, after installing WM2005 1.60c I only have 14.54 MB of storage memory. Any chance of increasing this as my ActiveSync file sync seems to be greater than 14.54MB and ActiveSync is giving me errors that I have run out of space

Ram On WM 2005
"I've got the same issue, after installing WM2005 1.60c I only have 14.54 MB of storage memory. Any chance of increasing this as my ActiveSync file sync seems to be greater than 14.54MB and ActiveSync is giving me errors that I have run out of space"
Hello Hmerali , The problem was solved by using the Hima_DOC_Tool_1.0
It will increase the Storage partition to 31MB.
Many Thanks To Buzz & His M8s for this and the WM 2005 , Good Work !!
Cheers

thanks for that ... by the way does anyone get 'critical errors' when syncing with ActiveSync that says that sync has to start from scracth.
This casues my email sync settings to be reset.

Hello Again Hmerali .
I've been using ActiveSync Ver 4 and haven't had to many Problems .
There is a tool that will auto reboot the ActiveSync app instead of you having to reboot the computer over & over again incase of any error while syncing.
Regards Sean

How to free PROGRAM MEMORY in wm5

I had a friend who had this problem.I wonder who can help?With my O2 wizard i used to be running short of rom space ie storage memory as it had only 32mb left at factory default settings. My friend is running short of Program memory.ie ram space.
She is using eten m600+ that had 180mb storage for user and only 30mb program memory for user left at time of factory default settings.(when Bought from the shop)
original specs state 256mb rom and 64 mb ram.
after installing many programs the ppc still had about 125mb(excessive and redundant for running programs) left in storage and only 10 mb left in program memory.
Problem is certain programs like mapking, imap, agenda fusion(3000 contacts) consumes about 10 mb of program memory to run. then there is insufficient program memory to run a 2nd program at the same time.
If only we can shift like in my case 10 to 20mb from storage memory to program memory the the etenm600+ ppc would be wonderful.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS?
She has also a miotech A700 with about almost the same programs installed.The miotech factory default program memory is also left with 30mb when purchased. HOWEVER with almost the same programs installed the program memory left is about 25mb.THERFORE on miotech there is no problems to run multiple programs concurrently.
Question:
1.What cause the difference in usage of the program memory?
2.What to do to ensure that the program memory is not used up during installation of programs?
3.Are we able to see the Program memory to identify which of our programs are occupying the space?
4.Can we do anything eg to shift the programs that occupy the space in program memory to storage memory or storage card( like the way we are able to shift certain programs from storage memory to storage card by shifting the programs from the Program files in Main Memory to Program files in storage card therby freeing the storage memory)
Any insight into this would be much appreciated. At this point manufacturers had yet to increase ram ie program memory from 64mb up to 128 or 256mb as had been done for storage memory ie rom in the case of eten600+ had been increased to 256mb from 128mb(Eten m600/o2 or dopod products)
With my O2 wizard i used to be running short of rom space ie storage memory as it had only 32mb at factory default settings

Ok, here is the memory explanation:
As you may or may not (I am not quite certain from your post) know on WM5 devices like the Wizard storage memory is ROM, or more precisely flash (NAND if you want to get technical).
Program memory is RAM (I think it's SRAM not sure).
Since these are two physically different types of memory there is no way what so ever to use one in place of the other. So no borrowing storage memory to run programs.
Even if it was somehow possible (which it's not) to use flash to run programs it would bring your device to a halt as its read / write speeds are much to slow.
On WM5 systems RAM (program memory) is used just like on PC exclusively for running programs. It can not be used for storage so there is no danger of it being wasted during installation.
I don't have an explanation regarding the ETEN vs MIO issue, but keep the following in mind:
1) 64MB is in reality reported as about 55MB (binary count difference), 10 - 15 of that is reserved by the system and as much as 5 more may be taken up by resident apps / services depending on the device and the provider.
2) Same program may use up different amounts of RAM under different circumstances and may have memory leaks which means the memory it uses grows over time even if you do not input more data.
Also check out this neat app. Its a really great tool if you want to see whats going on on your device.

Information about 8310 memory space

When I go to File Manager - System info, I see the following information:
Storage memory: 17.95MB
Used: 14.83MB
Free: 3.12MB
Program memory: 44.70MB
Used: 27.78MB
Free: 16.92MB
Does this mean that when I install programs, I can only use 16.92MB? And that above 3.12MB is used only for storing documents,music, etc?
Also, if I install program on a storage card, will any of the phone memory be used for saving some application specific data for this application?
How much memory does phone need to operate properly? And can it use Storage memory for its operations, or only program memory?
thanks,
Goran

Memory
Goran,
Storage memory is the built-in memory, it's used for storing anything at all. If you have only 3Mb left that's too little. If you use Internet Explorer often, you'll soon be getting messages like 'Your free space is running low'. Try installing to the SD card as many programs as you can except those that need to be installed in the main memory (e.g. WM5torage).
And 'Program memory' is the same as RAM on a desktop PC. It's used for running programs. 17Mb free says that some programs are running in the background. Immediately after reboot you should have around 27-30Mb free.

Thanks, George, I got it now. After installing WM6 tings now look better.

How to free up storage memory in wm5?

Hi. I have an imate pocket pc with c_shanker's wm5 rom. I am trying to install the bell ui found in the development section. It says my storage memory is critically low. How do i free it. The rom gave me around 14mb of storage memory and 30mb of ram disk. plz help

Go to Internet Explorer and clean out your browser history and all temp files. You'll find this under options. Also move any number of extra files, media, photos etc to the storage card to free up more space. You should be able to free up some memory this way.

[Q] Need Help With Memory Application

i'm using samsung omnia 16GB with WM6.2. my phone main memory is 94.2mb for STORAGE & 96.26mb for PROGRAM.Both are almost fully used up.i have a lot of programs installed & i can't install anymore programs due to insufficient space.I've been looking for an application that can allow me to install programs on my 16GB storage instead of phone main memory.I'm hoping someone here can help me out.I've been searching & all i could find was ram cleaners.

SKTools will allow you move installed program data to My Storage.
I only have 1 app on device memory all the rest have been installed to My Storage.
good day.