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i have a excalibur and have flashed android so i know that google just ripped of gentoo and disabled almost everything that would be good from a linux distro. i have not checked much of the updates/hacks/mods people have done yet, but as much as i have heard is that google blows and they dissabled the commandline even though it is still on the phone using up storage and ram. along with all of the commands and some applications like "vi" and since they decided to disable the "c.l." you cannot run native linux apps so you can only program in java even though you have the full capability to run regular c/c++ apps. so should i get the g1? or the n810, which has a full linux and i can just get nmap, gimp and whatever else i want on it? i mean yeah the g1 is "open source" and so is windows mobile if you wish so, i mean id probably have wm over android if there hasnt been any change from what i have heard/experienced. atleast then i can use embedded c++, or visual basic to program for it, and can even program for it to an extent right on it from notepad i mean i can do xml/html and mabey batch i havent tried.. sorry for the digression but anyways what are the pros and cons of "android" as far as development/poweruser?(gentoo mobile, and supposedly you can get debian on it?)
First of all the red makes it really hard to read so I only read about 4 words before I stopped. Second, what does this have to do with Android/Dream developement?
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First of all the red makes it really hard to read so I only read about 4 words before I stopped. Second, what does this have to do with Android/Dream developement?
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lol the funny thing is i too read the first 4 words (exactly) and stopped. i guess i lost interest when i read excalibur haha. then wondered why is this topic even posted here.
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lol the funny thing is i too read the first 4 words (exactly) and stopped. i guess i lost interest when i read excalibur haha. then wondered why is this topic even posted here.
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again as i asked before which would be better for developing, and what has been done as for modding/ect that might allow for better development
Maybe i am not seeing it but the N810 is only a internet tablet, not a phone right?. If you don't need a phone go with the N810, but if you need a phone go for the G1.
my .02
I have had an n800 since last xmas then got a g1 on opening day, from the sound of your post you'd be happier getting a cheapo 3g that can tether and an n810 the ITs are pure linux you can run debian and everything on them a full desktop install dual booting and running along with maemo(on which android is partly based, if im not mistaken) I love my tablet and cant wait till there is a good solid BT Pan for the g1, I think somebody is working on it or is close...not sure
you could also grab a 770 or a used n800 and a g1, I think you can find the 770 for ~$100usd
hope it helps
bhang
I've never programmed anything before, but have been studying/reading about programming in Visual Studio, and just went through the tutorials from the Android SDK... What i'm looking to do is share the GPS in the G1 to my Wing (or any other device, depending on how I can do it) to use GPS software I had previously purchased for the Wing. I had a bluetooth GPS puck, but the charger cable broke, and CompUSA has been out of business for quite some time now... So I figured why not try the G1? Since it doesn't have proper turn-by-turn directions, which I would also need available in the mountains of West Virginia, where T-Mobile and AT&T don't provide service, it'd be critical to have an offline solution. And that's why I'm trying to stick with my Wing as the turn-by-turn solution.
Anyone know of the APIs needed to provide access to the GPS data? And how about sharing them, I figured bluetooth is probably going to be my only route, but I didn't think bluetooth COM ports were available in the Android APIs just yet. Anything to help me out would be great. I've been digging through the SDK as much as I can and I'm finding nothing that's easy to understand lol.
Also any websites with tutorials on Android development would be great.
Thanks in advance.
I've been wanting to do the same. To have the G1 grab the data and then transmit it to a laptop or PDA via bluetooth or usb.
Unfortunately, I lack the programming skills needed.
That makes two of us LOL. I'm very much a beginner programmer, I still haven't gone through enough to understand anything. I think I found something that could provide location information, so all I need is to figure out how to implement it into an "On/Off" button centered on a plain screen, and tie that into an export function (i think?) over a Bluetooth COM port that I must create. Somehow. If I figure out something, I will test it on my G1, then upload it somewhere for much wider testing. But this may just be something I need more experience to work with it. I do have Eclipse installed and ready to go if anyone can point me toward the right documentation, because the SDK and developer.android.com doesn't provide much, just an introduction and "jump into it" style of learning. Might be best for experienced programmers, but I'm completely lost. Anyone?
This is not practical. Possible yes, practical no. I doubt that its even possible to put the Dream BT into slave mode, but if it IS possible, you would *definitely* need root access. You're better off dealing with the charger for your BT-GPS. Forget about the store you bought it at, they probably couldn't have found you an appropriate charger anyways. The device manufacturer is a much better source for information and radio shack can sell you a charger that meets the required specs.
If you decide to go the BT route, you would need to output the NMEA data from the GPS....this is a standard format for position information that almost all navigation software accepts.
Fortunately it isn't a particularly complex data set....just lat / long / alt / time.
Forgive my ignorance on the way GPS is implemented on the G1, but wouldn't it just be easier to wait for a turn-by-turn app to be developed? Or to start on that itself? Or is there one available already?
Try out andnav2, now that it supports downloadable map tiles and there is a facility to generate YOUR OWN maptiles from OSM data, there are some significant advantages there, even compared to other systems, like tomtom. Definitely worth taking a look at -- it might even work out better for you (certainly will in terms of cost -- free).
Thank you all for your responses.
Well in regards to the charger, I looked for information on buying a new one, turns out that's not possible. It's a Pharos iGPS-BT, not the easiest product to find ANY support for. And indeed, I do have root access, as I'm tethering with my G1 in order to get online... About the output data, yes, I was aware of the usage of NMEA data, actually mentioned it in a similar post I made to the android-beginners group on Google Groups, and I'm pretty sure that with how it's handled by the (for instance) GPS Tracker app, it's pretty much forwarded through whatever means are necessary. In that app's case, to the internet database at InstaMapper.com, in my case I'd want it through bluetooth. Now as for a G1 turn-by-turn solution, there's a commercial one, TeleNav, already available, BUT that requires a monthly subscription fee, something i've NEVER been okay with for any product, because if you find yourself not using it extensively (I travel to unfamiliar territory once in a great while, and typically on short notice), you're paying for functionality not used. In addition, that means you download that data as you need it. Something that doesn't happen with Garmin, TomTom or iGO on the Windows Mobile platform.
And as for AndNav2, I check their site DAILY, desperately hoping for enough donations for them to get a server dedicated to the United States. They have California available, but that's pointless to me over on the east coast. lbcoder, this OSM data you're speaking of, can you elaborate at all? I ultimately didn't want to use the G1 as my nav solution because it doesn't fit in the mounting solution I have (my Wing fits perfectly in my steering wheel, wedged in and won't move!) but if that's the easier solution in these hard economic times, I'll go for it! In the meantime I'll go research their site to see if I can find any information on this data and how to get it, where to put it, etc.
I just found 1 click directions in the market. It's got voice turn by turn! It's not perfect, but it works.
Well I have hopes for it when I'm done making ringtones haha. I'll check it out, the OSM data (figured out it was OpenStreetMaps, duh) is great on the web, but tryin' to figure out the 540mb download from AndNav.org REALLY wasn't easy, and I gave up anyway, since OpenRoute doesn't work with the US, just Europe. So for now, I give up on AndNav... You know, ivanmmj, I think I'm using your Wing ROM... I know I downloaded "Just2Clean" to give new life to my Wing, and you cooked that, didn't you? I needed it for the new iGO 8 to run properly, since the stock ROM would barely run Garmin or TomTom. iGO's 3D terrain kinda has me spoiled, too, I can't live without that interface! So I must say, THANK YOU for giving my Wing new life... as a GPS. But other than that, the G1 rocks my world for every other purpose.
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Well I have hopes for it when I'm done making ringtones haha. I'll check it out, the OSM data (figured out it was OpenStreetMaps, duh) is great on the web, but tryin' to figure out the 540mb download from AndNav.org REALLY wasn't easy, and I gave up anyway, since OpenRoute doesn't work with the US, just Europe. So for now, I give up on AndNav... You know, ivanmmj, I think I'm using your Wing ROM... I know I downloaded "Just2Clean" to give new life to my Wing, and you cooked that, didn't you? I needed it for the new iGO 8 to run properly, since the stock ROM would barely run Garmin or TomTom. iGO's 3D terrain kinda has me spoiled, too, I can't live without that interface! So I must say, THANK YOU for giving my Wing new life... as a GPS. But other than that, the G1 rocks my world for every other purpose.
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lol. Yes, that was me. If you want, I can cook you a ROM with the phone part gutted out, so that it servers as a PDA with wifi and all but doesn't waste resources or battery on the phone part. I've never done it, but doesn't seem like it would be something hard to do. I'll even base it on the newer JustStable once I finish it. (It's the newest ROM I'm cooking (not including the WM6.5 ROM I'm working on for kicks.)
Wow! Well thank you! That would be pretty nifty. I have the 6.5 ROM sittin' on here, the original one that leaked, no enhancements or anything. The Wing hasn't been used as a phone, indeed, though the threaded SMS was pretty nifty. Google beat them out though. I use the Wing to manage my Netflix que, and when I'm using Garmin, I download traffic updates. All that is done via Wifi to the G1's wifi-tether network. So indeed, I have no use for the phone at all. You, my friend, are very kind to offer up a build specialized toward someone like myself. When/if iGO ever shows up on Android, I can put the Wing to rest. Until then, you've breathed new life into the poor, old, crippled thing.
Just for you, I'm attaching a pic of it with my netbook.
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Wow! Well thank you! That would be pretty nifty. I have the 6.5 ROM sittin' on here, the original one that leaked, no enhancements or anything. The Wing hasn't been used as a phone, indeed, though the threaded SMS was pretty nifty. Google beat them out though. I use the Wing to manage my Netflix que, and when I'm using Garmin, I download traffic updates. All that is done via Wifi to the G1's wifi-tether network. So indeed, I have no use for the phone at all. You, my friend, are very kind to offer up a build specialized toward someone like myself. When/if iGO ever shows up on Android, I can put the Wing to rest. Until then, you've breathed new life into the poor, old, crippled thing.
Just for you, I'm attaching a pic of it with my netbook.
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It would be no problem. Just tell me what you want on it. Do you want it ONLY for use as a GPS system? (Therefore, eliminate any useless apps, phone functions, .NETCF, Internet Explorer, OperaMini, Media Player, camera, etc?)
Need clarifications on Market install procedure:
1. Calls for using "AndRootFile." I go to site to DL and it asks what phone to get right apk. Got no stinkin' phone. What do I put in? Or where can I get the apk for G-Tablet?
2. Procedure call for mounting R/W and making sure to make R/O when finished. How?
3. Guide for ADB setup at the end. Does that have to be done manually or do the files above take care of the changes? Or does the DL usb file replace the stock file?
4. i have had Gmail for a long time. Is anything other than a Gmail signon needed to set up market and the other apps?
Thanks for any help.
Rev
I was hoping a couple of quick answers would save me some time and uncertainty or maybe a mistake.
Anyone help?
Rev
butchconner said:
Need clarifications on Market install procedure:
1. Calls for using "AndRootFile." I go to site to DL and it asks what phone to get right apk. Got no stinkin' phone. What do I put in? Or where can I get the apk for G-Tablet?
2. Procedure call for mounting R/W and making sure to make R/O when finished. How?
3. Guide for ADB setup at the end. Does that have to be done manually or do the files above take care of the changes? Or does the DL usb file replace the stock file?
4. i have had Gmail for a long time. Is anything other than a Gmail signon needed to set up market and the other apps?
Thanks for any help.
Rev
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1. There won't be a version of androot specifically for the G tab. Just find an androot apk and install it.
2. Refers to read/write, and read only. Once androot is installed it will have a selection allowing for you to be a Superuser, and to set r/w, or ro.
3. ADB is setup manually. It is run from a command line. The USB driver gets installed by hooking up your G tab by usb, don't mount it from the G tab though. Then run the driver program in windows to install the driver.
4. Yes, once it is all installed your Gmail login will do it all. There is a market fix that will need to be done also as the market will be really incomplete. The fix is easy...
5. I know you didn't have a 5, and you will think I am beating a dead horse. If you were to just install TnTLite2.2 all the work is done, your G tab will scream, and you will be done...
Thanks for the quick clarifications. Now a comment for your (5) comment.
I have thought of going ahead and flashing -- and yes I know that solves some problems. But aside from being conservative hardware wise:
1. My biggest objection to flashing is that there is no real way back to stock. Vanilla is not factory if I understand right. And I'm not sure cwm lets you make a restorable factory image. If I knew I could restore a factory image, it would make playing a little easier for me.
2. I'm not new to computers or OSes, but I am new to Android. There is a certain learning advantage in doing the various procedures -- the negative being that that makes me have to ask people like you for the little details I need.
3. Screaming is relative. Compared to my PDA and my netbook, my G already screams. And none of them scream compared to my gaming machine which is probably in the top 10 per cent speed-wise. So screaming would only make a little difference for me.
4. And then there the projected Dec. 19 update. I realize that VS has missed the boat several times in all of this, but it would be tooooooooo sweet if they incorporated a lot of the fixes and ideas voiced here into the update and make a stock machine even better.
5. Since you quit at five I will too. I really would like to have a $279 G-Tablet to play with, but I like in the country and even the nearby large city doesn't have either enough Sears or tech enthusiasts for me to get that lucky. If I had a second one, I could play a little more since I wouldn't necessary have to keep it working so I could use it.
Anyhow, thanks again for the clarifications and your comments. There is no dead anything around here, BTW!!!
Rev
butchconner said:
Thanks for the quick clarifications. Now a comment for your (5) comment.
I have thought of going ahead and flashing -- and yes I know that solves some problems. But aside from being conservative hardware wise:
1. My biggest objection to flashing is that there is no real way back to stock. Vanilla is not factory if I understand right. And I'm not sure cwm lets you make a restorable factory image. If I knew I could restore a factory image, it would make playing a little easier for me.
2. I'm not new to computers or OSes, but I am new to Android. There is a certain learning advantage in doing the various procedures -- the negative being that that makes me have to ask people like you for the little details I need.
3. Screaming is relative. Compared to my PDA and my netbook, my G already screams. And none of them scream compared to my gaming machine which is probably in the top 10 per cent speed-wise. So screaming would only make a little difference for me.
4. And then there the projected Dec. 19 update. I realize that VS has missed the boat several times in all of this, but it would be tooooooooo sweet if they incorporated a lot of the fixes and ideas voiced here into the update and make a stock machine even better.
5. Since you quit at five I will too. I really would like to have a $279 G-Tablet to play with, but I like in the country and even the nearby large city doesn't have either enough Sears or tech enthusiasts for me to get that lucky. If I had a second one, I could play a little more since I wouldn't necessary have to keep it working so I could use it.
Anyhow, thanks again for the clarifications and your comments. There is no dead anything around here, BTW!!!
Rev
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Well I do understand why you want to do things the way you do. And just in case you may have not seen it. You can go all the way back to original by using NVFlash and the original images made way back a whole month ago. (Seems longer than that). I have done it a couple times while messing around with things that didn't work. Here is a little something I wrote up about how to do it..
http://forum.tegratab.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8
I didn't know what to think when I read your #2 comment. I am not an expert by any means but is it really that bad to have to ask?
"2. I'm not new to computers or OSes, but I am new to Android. There is a certain learning advantage in doing the various procedures -- the negative being that that makes me have to ask people like you for the little details I need."
Anyway, hope it helped..
Number two is nothing except that I am pretty independent and usually I am the one doing the helping -- and I just dislike bothering other people for basic info.
One of my dislikes about the G-Tablet and Android is that there are not many really good "user" books available. Lots of Android programming books, but none that just tell how it works and what to do for common tasks, etc. And what can I say about the G-Tablet manual. It does a credible job of describing the hardware, but I wish they had a few chapters on basic operation.
Well, I guess some of this is just griping so I'll shut up.
Rev
P. S. -- Is there any particular version of "AndRootFile" that will work better than the others?
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Number two is nothing except that I am pretty independent and usually I am the one doing the helping -- and I just dislike bothering other people for basic info.
One of my dislikes about the G-Tablet and Android is that there are not many really good "user" books available. Lots of Android programming books, but none that just tell how it works and what to do for common tasks, etc. And what can I say about the G-Tablet manual. It does a credible job of describing the hardware, but I wish they had a few chapters on basic operation.
Well, I guess some of this is just griping so I'll shut up.
Rev
P. S. -- Is there any particular version of "AndRootFile" that will work better than the others?
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I think androot is the same. The supported list is likely just stuff they have tested it with. I usually use Root Explorer myself. Androot is free, Root Explorer costs a couple dollars but is easier to use, and more capable. I also use a file manager named Es File Explorer. It is free in the market and once you get the hang of how it works it can be used on the lan to move stuff between your pc and tablet, extract zip files, etc.
I don't know if there will ever be a good manual for Android. From what I can tell it is kind of a free for all out there. Does not seem there are very many real solid standards but there sure are a lot of variations.
I think most of the hardware for sale now is not really made by any of the companies with there name on it. The G tablet is sold by 3-4 different companies, just named differently. Seems they are at the mercy, and so are we of how well they can communicate what they want fixed to a company in another country. I wish there was a company that built a tablet in house that was open with the customers. Would sure make bug fixes, and feature changes easier. As it stands, they are happy to sell whatever they get.
Everyone.
You can close this thread as far as I am concerned. I worked with adapting a stock machine until I simply got tired of it. I have converted to TnT 2.20 at this time and am pleased so far. I will write more about the experience when I have time.
Rev
Has anyone heard of the Nextbook Premium 9? I am trying to root it, but have been unsuccessful with all of the current rooting tools (z4root, Androot etc) and have been searching the internet for anyone who has found a successful method for rooting.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Trying to root the nextbook premium 9 tablet
HEY BRO HOW ARE YOU MY NAME IS CLAY I AM IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE REAL ANDROID MARKET BUT IT SEEMS THE ONLY WAY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS BY ROOTING THE TABLET SO I HAVE BEEN TEARING THE WEB APART TRYING TO FIND ROOT FOR THIS BAD BOY ANY WHO I DID FIND A COUPLE THINGS YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LIKE MOBILES24.COM ITS A APP STORE JUST SIGN UP AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ANY APP THE HAVE FOR ANDROID AND YOU CAN GO TO SYNDICATE APPS.COM AMD DOWNLOAD ICS 4.0 LAUNCHER ITS PRETTY AWESOME JUST WHEN YOU GOOGLE IT AND IT GIVES YOU THE SELECTION LIST OF WEB SITES CLICK LAUNCHER ON THE VERY FIRST ONE AFTER THAT CLICK ON RELEASES AND CLICK THE BOTTOM CHOICE ICS 4.0 ITS A STABLE BUILD AND COOL TO MESS WITH ON YOUR TABLET JUST FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS FOR DOWNLOADING IT I HOPE YOU LIKE OH YEAH IT IS A APK DOWNLOAD SO ITS EASY TO INSTALL ONCE YOU HAVE GO TO LAUNCHER SETTINGS AND ADJUST THE WAY YOU SEE FIT BUT BAK TO THE PROBLEM AT HAND ROOTING OUR TABLET IVE TRYED EVERYTHING YOU LISTED AS WELL AND NO LUCK PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN AND EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU FIGURE A WAY TO GET ROOTED AND OR INSTALL THE ANDROID MARKET THANKS BRO AND GOD BLESS YOU
Is there any hope for rooting the Nextbook Premium 9?
I have a new Nextbook Premium 9, and it has been limited very tightly by Efun, and I cannot find where anyone that has posted on the Internet has managed to root it. The problem is the tight memory limitations (kills me having that much free space on the device and no access to it).
I have done all that I know to do: add a 32gb micro-sdcard, and used ADB to install some stubborn apks, and set the preferred target of installations and data to the sdcard. I moved everything over that can be moved (it has Android 2.3.1). I cannot fit the apps that I really need all at the same time. I can uninstall and reinstall from the backups on the card... a pain, and it limits its usefulness.
Not having Market is a pain, but I can live with that with help from Amazon and others. But it doesn't do me a lot of good as tightly locked down as it is. I have an Onda VX610W coming (if DHL ever decides to move it out of Hong Kong to me) with ICS already installed, but its too small for what I am using the NextbookP9 to do. I need the Nextbook for my presentations. It has the larger screen, and I just need it.
Please, is there anyone who can help me or who can point me in the right direction. I need help with this one. Thanks in advance.
Jim aka FireStorm
Simular situation. A friend tried to root his with the 8p's root. While it worked the touchscreen doesnt work.
So how do I go about figuring out what driver I should compile and throw in the image?
I am still looking for a way to root the Nextbook Premium 9
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
firestorm005 said:
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
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I have a rooted android running on the 9P ... just need touchscreen drivers for it
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
UPDATE: For some reason, the permissions on this page suddenly would not let me post a reply, which I really need to do. Finless on Freaktab.com has produced a working custom rooted rom for the NEXTBOOK PREMIUM 9. He also included the original stock rom in case of emergencies. I have not tried it, but according to others, it works. I just finished downloading the files and will try it tomorrow after a nap.
I request permission to post a new reply in this thread. If you will let me, I will post a link to the thread found on Freaktabs that has the solution. I will first try out the ROM myself though. I was about to sell this thing to a friend in frustration.
It has such a beautiful display, I think I'll keep it with the 1gb USER APP space and access to Google Play that he gave it. He said he could do more, but 1 gb will make the thing workable... especially since he got rid of the bloatware bogging it down. But there is hope for the Premium9 users now. I sent tech support at Nextbook an inquiry about upgrades to ICS as there was some real indication of an upgrade. They said no plans were in the works for upgrading the very bogged down unrooted Gingerbread ROM it comes with. GET THIS: they suggested that I buy one of their "new" series of tablets (like... 5 months after the Premiums hit the market) instead. Hey, just forget the $200 or so dollar investment and buy a newer one with ICS from us... also unrooted. No thank you. I have an Archos on the way and own an Onda. I don't think I want another unrooted bogged down tablet from Nextbook after just getting this one. Except for having 4gb instead of 8gb memory, the hardware in the thing is pretty sound. But it was the locked down rom that made it a misery to use. If it works out, I will post the results.
firestorm005 said:
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
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Certinally. Because this was passed to me I was responsible for returning a working device TODAY so I ended up buying a brand new one >.>
Any news regarding this Nextbook Premium 9 root + market? I will receive one this week but... it seems that I will regret having it...
It would be awsome if some dev put his hands on one...
I also own a Next9P and also would like option of rooting this device... Are there any devs. mildly interested in working on this... I have some limited funds if it would help.
Sent from my NXM908HC using xda premium
Me too please....
Just tring to keep this topic alive as I would like to see developement on this platform myself. I got my hands one one of these lately.
I have managed to get a rom dump of the Nextbook Next9 NXM908HC
The romdump (done through adb) reported successful dump all exept config.gz where I wound up with 0 bytes. I read over there that the custom rom for the Next8p runs on the 9p but drivers are wrong for the digitizer on the 9p.
Here is a link for the dump on the Next9 NXM908HC if there are any takers for making a custom rom out of it.
http://isurf2.com/droidwork/next9/
A cyanogenmod7 version for it would be much appreciated, but I wont hold my breath.
--Brink
thanks for the dump. I will see what I can do over the next week.
If someone knows how to root...
If someone knew how to root this tablet maybe I could get a dump with the config.gz intact.
For those looking for rooted nextbook9
Head on over to freaktab.com. A fella that goes by Finless (administrator) AKA Bob has done us all a great service by putting together a rooted, debloated nextbook9 ROM.
I have tested it on my nextbook9 and found that it works.
BTW: When he says debloated he means it. This is positively the most stripped down ROM I have ever seen and I've been flashing custom builds since the windows mobile6 days.
If you found this information useful, don't forget to click the thanks button.
--Brink
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Inside the custom rom found on that page at freaktab.com look for app injector. This takes care of the too stripped down to be usefull. With that you can add the market (Play Store) gapps and the other apps that come with the stock rom.
--Brink
I tried the ROM from Freaktab and it worked great. My 9P is rooted, I have the full android market. The ROM utilizes more memory, boots faster, and seems to run apps faster. What more can you ask for?!
So go to the link posted by Brinkley... Oh and BTW, thanks Brinkley, I followed the link from your post and that is why my P9 is now rooted.
Cheers, TooSlow
the freaktab rom is ginger not ics is there a root/debloat rom for ics ?
I have the Nextbook P10SE. I just flashed a few different ROMS for it, including a JB rom. only problem is, inverted screen and touch.
which of course renders it useless. Finless rom has the touch correct, but the image is rotated 180 degrees.
the JB rom found here on XDA (look for Rockchip ROM) has the screen oriented correctly but the touch is rotated 180 degrees
sigh.
try kingo root, that software does root almost every device that i know of. i have been there with a device that is unknown or limited and you cant find any thing at all, thats why i start to build my own stuff. Try kingo root that would be first step and then cwm .
I have reloaded my S3 rom 3 times because of dumb mistakes. The biggest mistake i ever made was on my posh titan m500 -i think- however where can i get the software to redo it. Its a beautiful phone and i don't know how to manually load A KEYBOARD and also it didn't have google talk like my s3 did. its a hard lesson removing a keyboard. I'm getting very very good at this now. id also like to try a custom rom if there are any good suggestions. i don't know though my s3 is running fantastic however, i keep getting an "insufficient space to download security update for spider or something. how could there be no space ? there is nothing left on the phone app wise and i have a 64 GB SD card. i just cant get a handle on the file system that Samsung uses. you'd think they were some kind of CIA offshoot or something, I'm great with dos based file systems i mean i learned on the original PC and have set up hundreds working in computers but this secrecy crap is out of this world.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pgellen Anderson