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This might be a bit long winded, but I'll get there eventually. I have had all the MPx series phones, I had the MPx200 and hated it. The MPx220 was buggy until I just recently put the latest firmware on it, but really there are much better clamshell style smartphones out there. Now I'm playing around with the MPx (or MPx 300) and running headlong into the RAM limitations.
I've tried many many memory freeing programs, and systematically went through startup folders and file folders deleting stuff, locking the phone up, resetting, loading from backup, or reflashing and reloading from backup. Basically I've got as much out of it as I can. And, to be honest with respect to RAM, I am ok within the confines of the on board memory.
Then I see an ebay ad for a MPx200 with WM05:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MPX200-UNLOCKED...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And apparently someone has figured out how to use the SD card for a portion of the OS's RAM or ROM files in addition to getting WM 05 to run on the MPx200. So, I got to thinking, well why not do that with the -300 as well. I contacted that seller and a couple others on ebay, with no responses. So, I went searching other forums and was eventually led here.
If you made it this far, congrats. Now for the questions:
1) Do any of you know the background to that WM 05 upgrade to the MPx200? Was it someone here who figured it out? I searched but turned up nothing.
2) I'm a newbie when it comes to coding cell phone stuff, no idea on apps or whatever... I learned programming with Fortran77 for god's sake... lol. Anyway, I see all the apps and ROMS for the HTC phones and was wondering if the tools would work for the Moto phone as well, or am I barking up the wrong tree? Basically I'm toying with the idea of cooking up a WM05 or 06 for my MPx300. Yes, I understand I might brick the thing. I've come to terms with that.
Thanks all. I appreciate any input you all might have.
"and running headlong into the RAM limitations."
sorry cant help you but if you manage
you may be the first person in history who
fixed ram limitations by getting a newer microsoft operating system
LOL. I hear that. (but isn't crossbow actually better on RAM/ROM allocation than 05 was?)
But did you look at the link? On edit: that auction no longer explains that the phone will shut down if you remove the card while it is on because the new OS requires more memory and it was taken from the card. From the description it looks like the newer OS is using the SD card for a portion of its RAM... I realize that isn't a built in kind of thing, but was fishing here hoping someone knew enough to help me do this, or point me in the direction of someone who could... if not actually finding the person who figured it out.
Anyway, I realize this is primarily a HTC kind of site, I've been looking around on PPC addicts for a while, and it seems to me that the level of coding modification and experiance here is much greater than there, hence my asking over here.
Anyway, appreciate any or all help. Heck, even just thoughts about this at this point would be useful.
Here we go...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=785800&highlight=MPx200
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Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
-D
MN_Evolution said:
Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
-D
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If any important data is in those folders, you should save them on your computer. For example, pictures in DCIM folder, music, videos.... or documents that you created..
While creating the gold card, the sd card will be formatted and you will lose all data.
After the phone is rooted, you can then format the card using the phone's "Format SD card" tool, and then use the card as normal.
All those folders will be recreated once those apps are installed.
Edit: Also, if you look in the Dev's section, there are tools that will help you with the whole process of rooting your phone.
Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
MN_Evolution said:
Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
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Use a proxy site to be able to watch the video at your work place. Something like this --> http://www.proxeasy.com/webclient.aspx EDIT: Scratch that... This proxy site doesn't allow flash content unless you subscribe. Sorry. You can try other proxy sites
The inspire is my second android phone. I had the captivate and it was very easy to root. Prior to the captivate, I had the eyephone. So glad I went with an android phone. Sick and tired of the same UI with iphones.
Although the entire rooting process for the inspire seems overwhelming, it's actually pretty straight forward when you follow the instructions.
I haven't heard anyone "bricking" their inspire yet and if you get stuck in the rooting process, search the forums and you will most likely find your solution.
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
MN_Evolution said:
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
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I used the hack kit. Went ok. Had some slight issue when i tried to use a 1GB SD card that apparently is too small for a gold card. So, then I decided to just use the SD card that came with the phone and all went well!
I also have to agree with hating itunes... They keep cramming useless features and just makes the whole user experience a little less interesting.
Im glad that with android devices, you don't need any specific program to sync your stuff to the phone... Just plug in and done!
Has anyone heard of the Nextbook Premium 9? I am trying to root it, but have been unsuccessful with all of the current rooting tools (z4root, Androot etc) and have been searching the internet for anyone who has found a successful method for rooting.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Trying to root the nextbook premium 9 tablet
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Is there any hope for rooting the Nextbook Premium 9?
I have a new Nextbook Premium 9, and it has been limited very tightly by Efun, and I cannot find where anyone that has posted on the Internet has managed to root it. The problem is the tight memory limitations (kills me having that much free space on the device and no access to it).
I have done all that I know to do: add a 32gb micro-sdcard, and used ADB to install some stubborn apks, and set the preferred target of installations and data to the sdcard. I moved everything over that can be moved (it has Android 2.3.1). I cannot fit the apps that I really need all at the same time. I can uninstall and reinstall from the backups on the card... a pain, and it limits its usefulness.
Not having Market is a pain, but I can live with that with help from Amazon and others. But it doesn't do me a lot of good as tightly locked down as it is. I have an Onda VX610W coming (if DHL ever decides to move it out of Hong Kong to me) with ICS already installed, but its too small for what I am using the NextbookP9 to do. I need the Nextbook for my presentations. It has the larger screen, and I just need it.
Please, is there anyone who can help me or who can point me in the right direction. I need help with this one. Thanks in advance.
Jim aka FireStorm
Simular situation. A friend tried to root his with the 8p's root. While it worked the touchscreen doesnt work.
So how do I go about figuring out what driver I should compile and throw in the image?
I am still looking for a way to root the Nextbook Premium 9
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
firestorm005 said:
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
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I have a rooted android running on the 9P ... just need touchscreen drivers for it
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
UPDATE: For some reason, the permissions on this page suddenly would not let me post a reply, which I really need to do. Finless on Freaktab.com has produced a working custom rooted rom for the NEXTBOOK PREMIUM 9. He also included the original stock rom in case of emergencies. I have not tried it, but according to others, it works. I just finished downloading the files and will try it tomorrow after a nap.
I request permission to post a new reply in this thread. If you will let me, I will post a link to the thread found on Freaktabs that has the solution. I will first try out the ROM myself though. I was about to sell this thing to a friend in frustration.
It has such a beautiful display, I think I'll keep it with the 1gb USER APP space and access to Google Play that he gave it. He said he could do more, but 1 gb will make the thing workable... especially since he got rid of the bloatware bogging it down. But there is hope for the Premium9 users now. I sent tech support at Nextbook an inquiry about upgrades to ICS as there was some real indication of an upgrade. They said no plans were in the works for upgrading the very bogged down unrooted Gingerbread ROM it comes with. GET THIS: they suggested that I buy one of their "new" series of tablets (like... 5 months after the Premiums hit the market) instead. Hey, just forget the $200 or so dollar investment and buy a newer one with ICS from us... also unrooted. No thank you. I have an Archos on the way and own an Onda. I don't think I want another unrooted bogged down tablet from Nextbook after just getting this one. Except for having 4gb instead of 8gb memory, the hardware in the thing is pretty sound. But it was the locked down rom that made it a misery to use. If it works out, I will post the results.
firestorm005 said:
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
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Certinally. Because this was passed to me I was responsible for returning a working device TODAY so I ended up buying a brand new one >.>
Any news regarding this Nextbook Premium 9 root + market? I will receive one this week but... it seems that I will regret having it...
It would be awsome if some dev put his hands on one...
I also own a Next9P and also would like option of rooting this device... Are there any devs. mildly interested in working on this... I have some limited funds if it would help.
Sent from my NXM908HC using xda premium
Me too please....
Just tring to keep this topic alive as I would like to see developement on this platform myself. I got my hands one one of these lately.
I have managed to get a rom dump of the Nextbook Next9 NXM908HC
The romdump (done through adb) reported successful dump all exept config.gz where I wound up with 0 bytes. I read over there that the custom rom for the Next8p runs on the 9p but drivers are wrong for the digitizer on the 9p.
Here is a link for the dump on the Next9 NXM908HC if there are any takers for making a custom rom out of it.
http://isurf2.com/droidwork/next9/
A cyanogenmod7 version for it would be much appreciated, but I wont hold my breath.
--Brink
thanks for the dump. I will see what I can do over the next week.
If someone knows how to root...
If someone knew how to root this tablet maybe I could get a dump with the config.gz intact.
For those looking for rooted nextbook9
Head on over to freaktab.com. A fella that goes by Finless (administrator) AKA Bob has done us all a great service by putting together a rooted, debloated nextbook9 ROM.
I have tested it on my nextbook9 and found that it works.
BTW: When he says debloated he means it. This is positively the most stripped down ROM I have ever seen and I've been flashing custom builds since the windows mobile6 days.
If you found this information useful, don't forget to click the thanks button.
--Brink
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Inside the custom rom found on that page at freaktab.com look for app injector. This takes care of the too stripped down to be usefull. With that you can add the market (Play Store) gapps and the other apps that come with the stock rom.
--Brink
I tried the ROM from Freaktab and it worked great. My 9P is rooted, I have the full android market. The ROM utilizes more memory, boots faster, and seems to run apps faster. What more can you ask for?!
So go to the link posted by Brinkley... Oh and BTW, thanks Brinkley, I followed the link from your post and that is why my P9 is now rooted.
Cheers, TooSlow
the freaktab rom is ginger not ics is there a root/debloat rom for ics ?
I have the Nextbook P10SE. I just flashed a few different ROMS for it, including a JB rom. only problem is, inverted screen and touch.
which of course renders it useless. Finless rom has the touch correct, but the image is rotated 180 degrees.
the JB rom found here on XDA (look for Rockchip ROM) has the screen oriented correctly but the touch is rotated 180 degrees
sigh.
try kingo root, that software does root almost every device that i know of. i have been there with a device that is unknown or limited and you cant find any thing at all, thats why i start to build my own stuff. Try kingo root that would be first step and then cwm .
we got a Curtis Klu LT 8088 for xmas and seems to be a decent tablet. we would like to be able to run big fish games (HOG) on this or to play online scrabble........i feel like thats not too much to ask but it seems that they are hell bent on sending u to their buy their apps/prog/games site. i don't like that....should be able to go and do what i want on my device. with that said.........is there anything i can do about this?
tablet: Curtis Klu LT 8088
running: Android 4.0.4
kenel: 3.0.8
rockchip: rk29sdk
internal memory: 256mb (i think)
external memory: 32gb (which we have the external memory already installed for this)
any help or direction would be great and if i left anything out, pls, ask and i will try to provide what ever info might be needed. thanks for views and comments. pls, be kind, i am a noob at this but i can follow instructions. so have a great day and look forward to working with you folks!!
I'm really not sure if there are much/any custom mods you could use on your Curtis, as it's not a well known tablet - which means finding a safe rooting method would be troublesome or possible. As for big fish games, how are they sending you to buy their products? ingame popups, product placement ingame...etc
Remember, you are able to go and do what you want on your device - if your device allows it
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I'm really not sure if there are much/any custom mods you could use on your Curtis, as it's not a well known tablet - which means finding a safe rooting method would be troublesome or possible. As for big fish games, how are they sending you to buy their products? ingame popups, product placement ingame...etc
Remember, you are able to go and do what you want on your device - if your device allows it
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well, i think i have seen where older models have been rooted but i'm trying to find out how to save my image file just in case, if i'm thinking this thru right, is that what i need if i semi brick my tablet? to restore it i mean............was trying to cover my butt in case before i made any moves towards trying the rooting process. as far as the big fish games, they have android apps to play their games on your device, mine just won't install. its so frustrating, got a good little device that should be awesome for a portable device but its so limited and i'm not trying to access rocket science or anything major. i think part of it has to do with "java", i tried installing a java apk and it keeps telling me that it has stopped working. but i can be hard headed, so i'm going to keep looking and hopefully i find something, if i do, i will be sure to let everyone know and if u find anything, pls let me know, have a great day!
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
Nichyun said:
Hello Everybody,
Im having a very frustrating experience. I just had my htc one x replaced by at&t after damaging the screen. I actually bought a new screen to put it on myself but when I was expressing nervousness about installing it (despite doing it fine before on a previous device) somebody else in my family called at&t and bought me a $99 replacement using the replacement plan as a present and a favor. It's the same exact physical phone as my old one, but things are different on it, and I don't like it. I figured out the issue is that the phone came shipped with HTC sense version of atleast 5 (found this by googling pics) while my old phone had 4. I like 4.. not 5.
Don't even get me started on why. Biggest thing is changing from 5 or 6 home pages to scroll through to only 3. I loved having the space. I never even used the app menu, haha.
Of course, looking it up now this seems to be a pain. Ive been sitting here for hours and this data is so hard to get through because of HTCs airheaded desicion to have 6 different phones with the same name. I feel like im going insane with contradictory info and google just not delivering due to the confusing names. I keep getting info for the desire x, too.
My main question is: I have an at&t htc one x and I need to downgrade to sense version 4. How do i do it, and can somebody point me to the correct video (preferred) or thread for this task for my phone? I don't care how much of a pain it is I will figure it out. I'm also terrified I can't do it because I've been hearing rubbish about the at&t version of this phone...
Im so frustrated. Isn't android based on linux? So why is everything so closed and proprietary? Open source being used to make money and force people to have one version of a program? Not having control over what I have on my device and being able to customize it how I choose to the point where I am forced into a new version of software I don't like? Oh and not to mention that I can't uninstall facebook and twitter which I don't use. I hate this. I loved my phone but this is making me so angry. This is the exact thing I HATE about certain electronics. I want to have things how I want them, it's mine. I'm picky. I like customizing all my things and having them to suit me. I'm a control freak with computers.... end rant.
Thank you very much for any help,
Nichyun
*flower bouquets for helpers*
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I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
ThisWasATriumph said:
I dont think you quite understand how android works. You dont need to use the Sense homescreen if you dont want to. Install Nova Launcher (or any launcher) from the Play Store and you can customize it however you want. Theres no way to downgrade Sense without rooting. As for uninstalling Facebook and Twitter, you should be able to "disable" them in Settings>Apps. If you truly want an open experience with Android, you will have to root and install CyanogenMod, PA, SlimKat or one of the many other custom ROMs available. However, it is not something you can just follow a simple video to do. I'm not even sure the latest AT&T software is rootable. Someone else will have to chime in there.
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I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
Nichyun said:
I really dont get it, I guess thats why i posted here, ill admit that. Thanks for the info... I'll look into all of that. I don't want to try to root the phone though, I' rather get used to it, I suppose. I dont want to mess it up, not worth it. It is frustrating to me that I cant delete certain apps because they're really big and there is no sd card slot in this phone so I run out of memory. I feel like facebook and twitter is everywhere it pushes itself on people which bothers me...
I guess this question could be considered answered because I figured out I dont want to do it any more.
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Apps installed on the phone do not take up your main phone storage. There are two separate disk partitions. The first one is ~2GB and holds your OS and applications. The second is ~10GB and holds your pictures, videos, external app data etc. Thats what an SD card would add on to if we had one. Installing more apps (that don't have extra parts, games often do for example) won't take up anymore of that space though. (however it is possible to install apps to the SD card) Anyways, like I said you can go into settings and "disable" any apps you don't want to show up in the app drawer anymore.