Hello
I was wondering if any operator was offering any of the HTC devices running an operating system other than windows? or does HTC have a deal with microsoft to supply all its devices with windows to operators ?(would the operators be termed as resellers in this case?)
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xda_guy said:
Hello
I was wondering if any operator was offering any of the HTC devices running an operating system other than windows? or does HTC have a deal with microsoft to supply all its devices with windows to operators ?(would the operators be termed as resellers in this case?)
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Palm Treo devices prior to the 700 are HTC-made and run palm O.S.
Richard
thanks for the reply
i was wondering who determines which operating system to use with the device, would it be the operators/OEM or would it be the manufacturer(HTC)
The Palm devices were the only non Windows Mobile devices HTC made, and these were jointly designed with Palm.
In the case of the Palm Windows Mobile devices, these are slightly different hardware specs (such as screen res being the most obvious) as there are differences between the two that require some different hardware.
There is not an option by an operator for instance, to choose the HTC Wizard, running PalmOS or Linux. It would have to be a new design, specifically for the different OS.
thanks for the reply
so in the case of the universal the design has entirely been done by HTC, which signifies a leap in HTC's capabilities from simply manufacturing devices(did it do that before its venture with palm) to designing & manufacturing devices for OEM's to selling its own brand
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply
so in the case of the universal the design has entirely been done by HTC, which signifies a leap in HTC's capabilities from simply manufacturing devices(did it do that before its venture with palm) to designing & manufacturing devices for OEM's to selling its own brand
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HTC has been an ODM since it's inception - the Universal didn't 'signify a leap' in the way you describe. It wholly ownes Qtek and it's chairwomen owned Dopod until the sale / reversal into HTC this year so the only recent change is the emergence of HTC as a brand in it's own right.
Maybe read their various websites for more info or use google?....and don't make statements you can't backup.
Richard
thanks for the reply fluffcat
oops, i did not mean to make any statements, i should have asked the question.
is the UNiversal an ODM or an OEM, since in my opinion, an OEM would have meant "synchronising" the requirements of four operators
O2, t-mobile, orange and some others to come up with the design.
can you recommend a website which would describe the ODM/OEM process that HTC has followed
AlanJC said:
There is not an option by an operator for instance, to choose the HTC Wizard, running PalmOS or Linux. It would have to be a new design, specifically for the different OS.
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HP have provided a linux image under the developer program for iPaq 3XXX devices.
Richard
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply fluffcat
oops, i did not mean to make any statements, i should have asked the question.
is the UNiversal an ODM or an OEM, since in my opinion, an OEM would have meant "synchronising" the requirements of four operators
O2, t-mobile, orange and some others to come up with the design.
can you recommend a website which would describe the ODM/OEM process that HTC has followed
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HTC are ODM of the Universal. It is sold under *many* names, including Grundig, in various markets - and to think that the 4 main UK networks drive the design process for a worldwide release candidate is incorrect.
They can specify colour, keymap layout, and in the case of some devices camera options, and they decide which apps to include ( for example Voda omits Pocket MSN from some of it's recent badged devices ) and I'm sure in the case or Orange or o2 - the original launch partners for XDA PPC and SPV smartphone respectively, they can 'suggest' things but the design is entirely down to HTC - despite what Jim 'I designed the XDA all by myself' Morrison of i-mate claims!
You won't find any HTC design process on the web. If you approach them with a view to manufacture 10,000 units of a device they may send you some info, but a business studies website may be more use.
Richard
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AlanJC said:
There is not an option by an operator for instance, to choose the HTC Wizard, running PalmOS or Linux. It would have to be a new design, specifically for the different OS.
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HP have provided a linux image under the developer program for iPaq 3XXX devices.
Richard
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It was also a retro fit software build by HP and the open source community, it is not one of the phone devices customised for use by multiple operators, and HP specify design constraints on HTC that operators do not
AlanJC said:
It was also a retro fit software build by HP and the open source community, it is not one of the phone devices customised for use by multiple operators, and HP specify design constraints on HTC that operators do not
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Yes, but unlike your previous statement it did not nessecitate " a new design, specifically for the different OS."
The original question was not specific about phone enabled devices, it was asking about HTC devices.
And linux is always going to be open source....
Richard
OK, you can split hairs if you like, after all, this is THE INTERNET
But HTC are not putting Linux on, HP are, just like anyone is free to try any of the emerging Linux distros on their PPC.
No, these do not require different hardware internally, but as for HTC themselves, they would do, as it would mean in the instance of Palm/Windows different resolution displays, and in the instance of any OS, different function/mode keys as Linux/Palm users would not have the Windows start key, Internet Explorer E, and so on.
Some changes would be minor, like different buttons, but either way, they would require specific differences in the hardware build of the device.
And I assumed since the original question stated operators, we were talking about operators, not HP, who aren't operators which kind of limits this thread to the mobile phone devices.
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But HTC are not putting Linux on, HP are, just like anyone is free to try any of the emerging Linux distros on their PPC.
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My development kit came with a 3660 running linux - it didn't magically install itself and I didn't flash it...and it came from HTC via Foxconn not HP.
Richard
OK, my apologies, but I still hardly think we can count a 3660, a very old device, retrofit with an OS from HP, that isn't a phone, isn't really available through normal retail channels as a consumer device, and isn't supported by HTC as it is a device specific to HP, with an OS designed within the OS community by HP, and is solely an HP venture.
I might be wrong, but we are talking about consumer PDA phone devices through operator channels.
I could go on about the fact the Himalaya or the Blue Angel were available with WM2003, WM2003SE, or WM5, but as the choice was only available as a developer kit, it is irrelevant, and it's not really an option.
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Hi there,
I just want to find out really, if it is legal by running WM6 on my device? I mean it is a WM5 device afterall, and much like with a PC you'd have to purchase a licence for new software, does the same principle apply with these devices and WM6?
I have heard that apparently one can buy WM6, is this true? If so, where from?
Thanks.
ChildOTK said:
Hi there,
I just want to find out really, if it is legal by running WM6 on my device? I mean it is a WM5 device afterall, and much like with a PC you'd have to purchase a licence for new software, does the same principle apply with these devices and WM6?
I have heard that apparently one can buy WM6, is this true? If so, where from?
Thanks.
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The issue is highly debatable. OS for Mobile devices come preinstalled and can not purchased separately for upgrading. this is quite unlike the OS for desktops where you can readily buy a new OS or upgrade an existing one. Your new device comes pre installed with an operating system so you have initially paid for it. therefore it is safe to say that only in case of mobile devices 100% buyers have paid for their OS. This is not so with desktops. Now comes the tricky bit. Do you have the legal right to upgrade? Since M$ does not sell an upgraded OS for such devices, they are infact not incurring any loss of revenue if a user is upgrading. If he can not upgrade it is wrong to suppose that he will rush out to buy a new one. However it appears that it is the cell cos who are behind M$ move. When people who upgrade seek tech assistance it does creat problems.... they do not have the expertise to handle these issues neither are they interested in upgrading the devices themselves!
Ok, I just don't want some MS agent to some and fine me for some rediculous reason or another....
Thanks.
There are rumours that M$ will be selling WM6 as an upgrade... which would give a reason as to why they waited til now to ask us to take down our ftp.
Well, as said here
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/02/27/windows-mobile-6-free-to-pda-manufacturers-issuing-upgrades/
MS is giving manufacturers free license for the upgrades, which may or may not means we get a free license?
hanmin said:
Well, as said here
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/02/27/windows-mobile-6-free-to-pda-manufacturers-issuing-upgrades/
MS is giving manufacturers free license for the upgrades, which may or may not means we get a free license?
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Hmmm... v interesting article, thanks
Ya, the worst they do, only if your hosting the files, is send an email. (trust me, I know) They will not hunt you down!
hahahaha, trust you. Remember theirs always a first time. hehehe
f??k em
this what i think of ms... hehehe
Our devices come with a licence for "Windows Mobile".
WM6 clearly comes within this
hanmin said:
Well, as said here
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/02/27/windows-mobile-6-free-to-pda-manufacturers-issuing-upgrades/
MS is giving manufacturers free license for the upgrades, which may or may not means we get a free license?
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Only with couple of OEMs. I checked with Imate but they have no intention of providing upgrades. Thats it.
I paid my Qtek 9000 about 1.000 Euro,and I think that it is my decision what I want to do with it...maybe install Symbian on it..? I think that nothing is gonna happend so far as WM6 stays "open source"..Difference about upgrade and new Jwrightmcps platform is evident...I downloaded Jwrightmcps WM6 from here and it is totally new platform..with some bugs which will be solved,but beautiful and rich functional,..If they in Mics...attempt to make update that would be just carefull minor upgrade of WM5...isnt it? Any problem what potentionally could be is about using their name so I suggest to rename new platform in something different...XDA 1 perhaps...
oh...and I forgot...looking from point of view from legal aspects I am wondering is there any possibillity to remove WM player (and replace other mic...stuff) because it is not worth it to be in state of the art Jwrightmcps Universal 6 platform...I think there is a lot of open source solutions and so "they in mic.." really would not have any reason to complain...This WM player is simply..."unfinished" as everything from them is..we still have BetaPlayer ..or something like that...
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oh...and I forgot...looking from point of view from legal aspects I am wondering is there any possibillity to remove WM player (and replace other mic...stuff) because it is not worth it to be in state of the art Jwrightmcps Universal 6 platform...I think there is a lot of open source solutions and so "they in mic.." really would not have any reason to complain...This WM player is simply..."unfinished" as everything from them is..we still have BetaPlayer ..or something like that...
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Try mortplayer. Its good. Google it and you will get it.
The Symbian cellphones seem to be so legal that you can never upgrade them to the new OS version or modify the ROM.
But M$ knows how to deal with the market.M$ disregards whether WM6 upgrating is legal or not.So more people will buy WM phones instead of buying Symbian ones.
Almost 90% of computers in China are running illegal Windows because of the M$'s neglect of them.No computers are running Windows in developing countries will be a real disaster to M$.
symbian & UIQ does not have a ROM...it is completly based on JAVA platform....and...yes....there is a plenty of programs ( .sis) for upgrading platform.but it is not an issue here...the issue is that should we be concerned about MS policy to prossecute everything and everybody..we can see,Universal 6 and Linux platforms grows day by day...and differences becomes bigger and bigger...Developers here are running "light years" infront of MS and they in MS will "fight back"...Linux is not a problem...Problem is (or will be) "Windows Media Player"..."Outlook"..."Internet Explorer"...etc.etc...because these names are licenced by them and they WILL focus on that fact...and China is special case...it is potentional industrial giant and it is the biggest future market so it is normal that if you want success on that vast market you will "blink on one eye"...(Yahoo and Google did that as we saw in near past when they agree to give Chinese goverment all data which they collect..remember...internet is not free in China(!))..but this is out of this topic..I think developers here should first do renaming applications and further developing them independetly..Indeed,technology and behavour is similar to all specific applications and there is no any philosophy (for example : IE and Firefox are similar browsers for one purpose and based on one technology,and differences are "slight" , but because of that,MS does not have right for any complain...)...I think here we should go that way...
I know that you guys are getting flack from Microsoft, and I don't mind using something that they don't like. I don't mind voiding my Warranty either. (After all, I had to replace my HTC wizard's screen myself!) But is it legal to use a WM6 rom? I don't use pirated software, so I would avoid any Roms that have any, and I do like WM6.
But I'll ask it like this: Is installing WM6 like installing a pirated copy of XP on my PC? Or is it like modding Windows XP to do things similar to Vista?
Installing WM6 on a WM5 phone is the equivalent of installing XP on a machine that had windows 98 installed on it.
Yes, but in your example, was it a pirated version?
The reason I say this is because I've heard that the copy of WM6 that was first found was leaked from Microsoft. So then is it something that is legal?
Its a grey area. From my understanding, Microsoft released WM6 and gave phone manufacturers free upgrades to offer to customers. HTC intended to release them, but the carriers (AT&T and T-Mobile) chose not to so that they can push new phones on people who don't need them just so they can get WM6 (i.e. T-Mobile's Wing, which has the same power, features, etc as the Wizard, just a little thinner, a retarded blue color, and with WM6).
So I guess you can say, since WM6 isn't for sale, you didn't necessarily steal it, so its not illegal. Microsoft's main issue is the fact that cookers on this forum have taken WM6 and modified it to their liking, which they consider copyright infringement.
from my understanding, everyone paid already for it
Wares was sold, another are waiting to BE sold etc...
Grey area is what is working for they bills imo.
imagine whole process...since computer became home thing.
Are they poorer or richer now..?
Do we have to feel like sinners?
(i am not lawyer, you know..)
Then give me linux noW. For my Wizard.
Thanks for clearing that up! Now I don't feel bad about using it.
At Tech Ed, I cornered Microsoft's Pocket PC guy, and asked him the same thing. He also explained it for the same reasons up above.
He said Microsoft would have NO problem distributing the OS, except that they sign contracts with the carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T), and in those contracts, it says that they will give them the OS exclusively.
From a legal standpoint (I am not a lawyer), it seems like Microsoft has no problems distributing it, but if they did (or openly endorsed it), it would violate their contract with the carriers. Since I have no contract with the carriers, I have no problem using it.
Btwa -- The Microsoft guy also says that everyone here at xda-developers are bad-asses, and he reads the forum regularly.
swingheim said:
Btwa -- The Microsoft guy also says that everyone here at xda-developers are bad-asses, and he reads the forum regularly.
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meh meh, we all are here to learn
Beta testers
Yeah, I bet the watch the forum for tips and ideas, then claim the cred for it
Ford Motor Company is working with Microsoft to develop a "Sync" system for cars and trucks. Lets you connect your phone, ipod, usb drive etc. to the Cars entertainment center. They recently flashed a bunch of the vehicles at my shop, with the latest upgrades. I cmplained to the guy, about my Wizard not syncing. After the flash he came over and asked to try my phone. Not only did it work, it was capable of streaming to the the sync system. This was the first time they had it working in the field. The guy was so excited he made phne calls telling everyone about it!! He wanted to buy my Wizard!! I told him about how we make our own ROM's and stuff. And he asked me if I knew about XDA-Developers?! He tld me that get great ideas, and free programs from there!! So yes microsoft does use this site!!
Jinto.Lin said:
I know that you guys are getting flack from Microsoft, and I don't mind using something that they don't like. I don't mind voiding my Warranty either. (After all, I had to replace my HTC wizard's screen myself!) But is it legal to use a WM6 rom? I don't use pirated software, so I would avoid any Roms that have any, and I do like WM6.
But I'll ask it like this: Is installing WM6 like installing a pirated copy of XP on my PC? Or is it like modding Windows XP to do things similar to Vista?
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It's so illigal as hell!
Regards, Schmia
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Installing WM6 on a WM5 phone is the equivalent of installing XP on a machine that had windows 98 installed on it.
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I'm seeing it more like hacking an XBOX2 firmware on to an original XBOX. The PC analogy doesn't work because there are other OS choices that could be used - Linux for example. The hardware isn't dependent on the software and can be purchased sperately.
But the PocketPC is like the XBOX where the firmware only works on that hardware and they are sold together and can only come together. You can't get the hardware without the software and add it later.
I say it's a Grey area but I ran into a Microsoft Rep at a training class and he was running WM6 on his Cingular 8125 and was all proud of it until I showed him my K-Jam running the Touch FW.
-Mc
hmm
come to think of it you would need a copy of the eula or any licence agreement with the os to actually know. Otherwise we are all guessing.
I looked at the license for my copy of WM5 and it did say it was only to be used with the device on which it was purchased and could not be rented, leased, or lent. But, yeah, I agree with Sandrobber.
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I looked at the license for my copy of WM5 and it did say it was only to be used with the device on which it was purchased and could not be rented, leased, or lent. But, yeah, I agree with Sandrobber.
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Here is amy view as to what we are doing. The issue is not Microsoft, but our carriers who take a base OEM ROM and play with it to push their services and we end up with a less than optimal phone.
I do not use pirated software on principle, but I use the ROMs we cook and host elsewhere( not in this board) because I have tried and cannot buy the OS from MSFT directly. So If we could buy the software and get service, updates and Service packs, I am certain we would all be willing to pay for it.
I have Microsoft development folks who come to me with issues in their devices and I point them here. They love what we do "unnoficially".
But I kid you not we are a threat to the carriers and they are the ones pressuring the vendor to try to shut us down...
Be on the lookout for the new FCC guidelines which are part of the bandwith spectrum sale. They will allow us the end user to use our devices with any carrier and install ANY software we want in OUR phones.
Just use it
Seriously who cares? Just use it buddy! We all do so many illegal things in life. Illegal things do not always amount to being a criminal like recording a TV programme which is ok with billions of people but criminal according to the FBI but then isn't everything illegal according to the FBI?
I was at a Tmo call center the other day working and a HTC rep was there preaching about the wing. I asked him if we will ever be offered a WM6 download and he told me that there is instructions on the internet of how to do it if I look around.
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It's so illigal as hell!
Regards, Schmia
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u're such a dumbass
I just bought an HTC X7501 Advantage Windows Mobile 6 PPC Phone. It's unlocked. I'm about to buy new phones from AT&T (as part of a service agreement) and I was thinking about getting the Samsung Blackjack (a Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone (not PPC). If I do this, will I be able to use software that I've purchased for my Advantage on my Blackjack? I can only use one phone at a time, so in my mind it doesn't seem like I'm violating any agreement by installing it on both but I wanted to check to be sure. Also, I'm not sure if PPC software will work on a smartphone.
Any help is appreciated. I just want to make sure this will work and be legal.
Thank you.
1)it will not work
2)it is not legal
whoster69 said:
I just bought an HTC X7501 Advantage Windows Mobile 6 PPC Phone. It's unlocked. I'm about to buy new phones from AT&T (as part of a service agreement) and I was thinking about getting the Samsung Blackjack (a Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone (not PPC). If I do this, will I be able to use software that I've purchased for my Advantage on my Blackjack? I can only use one phone at a time, so in my mind it doesn't seem like I'm violating any agreement by installing it on both but I wanted to check to be sure. Also, I'm not sure if PPC software will work on a smartphone.
Any help is appreciated. I just want to make sure this will work and be legal.
Thank you.
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It depends on the licensing conditions. If theprogram is tied to a particular username, you can safely transfer it to your next machine, making sure you don't use it on your old. If it's tied to, say, the CPU ID, it can't be.
Also, read the license.
But I only use one machine at a time. You'd think it would be tied to the user.
Anyway... Thanks for the info. I'll plan accordingly. Maybe I'll just not buy as much software if I'm going to run into issues in using it on the device I want.
Please note: since PPCs (like Advantage) and Smartphones (like BlackJack) have different interfaces due to one having a touch screen and one not having it almost all apps have different versions for each.
Some programs only have versions for one or another.
Even if a program can run on both (sometimes it can't at all because of missing components) it would not display properly and would be uncomfortable to use on the device it was not designed for.
Finally, while it makes sense to you that a program would be locked to a user name, from commercial stand point it is much harder to pirate a peace of software that is locked to hardware ID (like IMEI or device serial) so the method is widely used.
I had that problem when I was using my Sony TH55 and my Sony UX50. I was able to install everything, but I had to write to each and every programmer stating my case. They were very helpful and they all gave me new passwords.
It was intoxicating because I had an average of 60-70 apps installed.
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But I only use one machine at a time. You'd think it would be tied to the user.
Anyway... Thanks for the info. I'll plan accordingly. Maybe I'll just not buy as much software if I'm going to run into issues in using it on the device I want.
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It all depends on the licensing conditions. In general, if it's locked to your username, not otherwise stated, you can transfer your old license to your new device if you don't use the old device any more.
With IMEI / CPU ID-based solutions, you must contact the dev for a new license (unless you change your IMEI, which may be preferable if you have tons of IMEI-locked apps).
Source: msmobiles.com
In February 2008, during Mobile World Congress 2008 (a global event for professionals, not consumers), Microsoft will unveil publicly Windows Mobile 6.1 that is a minor upgrade to current Windows Mobile 6.
However the really big deal will be Windows Mobile 7. The first phones with Windows Mobile 7 will go on sale in 2009 but already now you can learn (almost) everything about it (including hint that it will support multi-touch!)
Full article:
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Nice find dude
edit: multi-touch confirmed!
Thanx! The Battle goes on for Microsoft and Apple. In 2009 Multitouch is a "Must"
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Source: msmobiles.com
In February 2008, during Mobile World Congress 2008 (a global event for professionals, not consumers), Microsoft will unveil publicly Windows Mobile 6.1 that is a minor upgrade to current Windows Mobile 6.
However the really big deal will be Windows Mobile 7. The first phones with Windows Mobile 7 will go on sale in 2009 but already now you can learn (almost) everything about it (including hint that it will support multi-touch!)
Full article:
http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
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1st..Link is not working, can't connect to the link.
2nd..Support multi-touch. ipod/iphone(Apple) registered the multi-touch trademark,therefore, impossible for anyone to use this technology.
Link is working, but it's slow now..
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1st..Link is not working, can't connect to the link.
2nd..Support multi-touch. ipod/iphone(Apple) registered the multi-touch trademark,therefore, impossible for anyone to use this technology.
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Microsoft was investing in multitouch technology since years ago
Taninpv said:
1st..Link is not working, can't connect to the link.
2nd..Support multi-touch. ipod/iphone(Apple) registered the multi-touch trademark,therefore, impossible for anyone to use this technology.
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Multi-touch is just a name. The technology has been around a long time, and MS even has an implementation in Microsoft Surface.
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/
Surur
http://www.sendspace.com/file/imgb4m
http://download.yousendit.com/FC5662C918CDB87E
Link to mht file from above
I heard rumours(read some article on the net) about multitouch technology that it was a company in Finland who first came up with it, but after 6 months it just was developing "dead spots" on the screen, so they dropped the project. And now Apple "bought" it from them... I say once again Rumours.?
Thats it. Im keeping my WM5 device until further notice. I can survive off extracted WM6 apps until then....
this is from Apple insider about "dead spots" http://www.appleinsider.com/article...essing_dead_spots_on_iphone_touchscreens.html
!!!!
Wonder what it'll run on. Oh well, my Wizard probably won't run it (but here's to hoping it will)
How nice of the blog to spill Microsoft's new and secret ideas for all the competitors out there
Anyone want to bet that NONE of our devices will support it? I mean, if our devices supported it, we wouldn't have to go out and buy all new ones, and MS wouldn't make any money off the licensing fees from OEMs like HTC. No, making Windows Mobile 7 backwards compatible with phones like the Tilt would just make too much sense and be far too consumer friendly.
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Anyone want to bet that NONE of our devices will support it? I mean, if our devices supported it, we wouldn't have to go out and buy all new ones, and MS wouldn't make any money off the licensing fees from OEMs like HTC. No, making Windows Mobile 7 backwards compatible with phones like the Tilt would just make too much sense and be far too consumer friendly.
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Now.. to be realistic, out of all the phones that are being sold with windows mobile how many do you think end up reflashed? I am willing to bet that it is quite a small percentage in the end. Most people don't want to get down and dirty with their phones, especially when they've already paid £400-£500 for it.
nvrnuff said:
Anyone want to bet that NONE of our devices will support it? I mean, if our devices supported it, we wouldn't have to go out and buy all new ones, and MS wouldn't make any money off the licensing fees from OEMs like HTC. No, making Windows Mobile 7 backwards compatible with phones like the Tilt would just make too much sense and be far too consumer friendly.
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WM is one of the few platforms where they would even consider giving updates. Even Symbian and Palm don't. Even on a computer they don't give Vista because we have XP.
As long as it runs compatible hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if develops here find a way to get it working. There's also always test builds on older devices. And it's still a long time before this is going to be released. It doesn't exactly make sense to purposely produce versions for hardware that could be old.
In short, we'll just have to see. There's no point making that speculation.
From the look of it (especially the fonts that have too much quality), the images are just mockups.
And given the Vista example, I bet it will look a lot worse when shipped than what we are seeing in these concepts.
Still, it's nice to see them and them evaluate how much work it takes to implement something that takes just a few days to design in Photoshop.
Can the Betas be far behind ?
Yeah, let's bring the battle to the fruitsuckers!
Some of the stuff looks similar to Pointui.
HTC Corp., Taiwan’s largest mobile- phone maker, is studying whether to equip phones with its own operating system, a move that may intensify competition with Google Inc. and Microsoft Corp.
“We continue to assess, but that requires a few conditions to justify” having our own system, Cheng Hui-ming, chief financial officer of the Taoyuan, Taiwan-based company, said in a phone interview today.
HTC’s own operating system would enable the company, which designs and produces phones using Google and Microsoft software, to reduce its reliance on outside developers. HTC is among possible bidders for Palm Inc., three people familiar with the situation said this month.
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I think we have enough mobile operating systems already android, wm, iphone, web os, symbian, blackberry and all the others i forgot lol... But i think htc could make a decent os and if they buy palm it might even be better than android, wm and iphone os.
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I think we have enough mobile operating systems already android, wm, iphone, web os, symbian, blackberry and all the others i forgot lol... But i think htc could make a decent os and if they buy palm it might even be better than android, wm and iphone os.
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Seconded. HTC making some Palm based phones would be killer.
But please, please, don't make yet another proprietary OS based on Linux. Android, Bada, LiMo... how many do we need? Stop the market fragmentation.