Sorry if this is old news but this looks like a magician (Qtek S110, i-mate Jam 128mb) with WM 5.0 could we use this ROM?
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/handhelds/0,39029444,39194767,00.htm
This device has 128 of RAM, and not 64 (as first devices like i-mate JAM for example). The problem of upgrading to WM 5.0 is how WM 5.0 manages memory of the device. In old WM versions 64 MB of RAM has been used for both storage and operational memory and we have/had the ability to adjust both kinds of memory (sizes) dynamically. Now is different. Both memories are completely independent (as it is on the PC). And the reason for not seeing any update for the ROM of 64 MB devices to WM 5.0 is that there is actually not enough memory. This is the easiest for understanding explanation. There is more detail clarification but it’s also more technical one.
My Qtek S110 has 128mb as does the charcoal (grey/gunmetal) coloured I-mate Jam. As long as this new model only has 64mb ROM I would imaging the new ROM will work
stevedebi said:
Nope. I don't think the internal device have drivers for the original S110.
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Yeah just noticed its got an OMAP processor
I'll get me coat :?
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Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
i don't think you can stack the memory on the magician. is that what you have done? according to the ppctechs website you can't do it.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=JAM-064-128RAM
I used chips of the same manufacturer... the same series... only greater volume.
It is not necessary to modify any in ROM... as at loading OS it defines how many memory is installed. Here problem in other... In old IPAQs it is necessary to move some resistor .... A question only what
According to ppctechs, they replace the 64mb chip with a 128mb chip, not 2x 64mb chips. you may need to use a 128mb chip.
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P.S. look at hardware pictures.
how can i download the magician
Download what?
You have to rub the magic lamp 3 times while closing your eyes and facing north.
tupisdin said:
Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
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Where can you buy those RAM-modules?
BTW, maybe the instructions can give you any hints in where you have gone wrong and if you need any resistors etc:
http://www.infineon.com/cmc_upload/documents/011/8819/HYB25L128160AC_2003-02.pdf
i think that you need some kind of softwere to make it work
i copyed this from ppc techs:
Q: Are your upgrades compatible with Pocket PC 2003?
A: Our upgrades have been fully tested with the release version of Pocket PC 2003 and are completely compatible. On most systems, PPC2003 does not support the 128MB natively, so our proprietary driver is still required. You will need a new copy of the driver for 2003. To obtain a new copy from us, please do the following:
Install your current version of the T2T Driver and soft-reset the system. Next, go into T2T Utility, turn on debug mode, exit the utility and soft-reset the system. Then email the T2TDisk.txt file located in the \Temp directory to [email protected] with a note requesting a 2003 driver.
I have an upgraded JAM by PPC Techs, and I can tell you that the T2T driver is NOT needed for this upgrade. (It was needed for my iPaq 4350 that I had upgraded last year)
PS And No, I am not going to open up my JAM to take pictures
tupisdin,
I admire your guts for taking on this job. I really hope you get it running
Partminer.
crisscross said:
tupisdin said:
Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
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Where can you buy those RAM-modules?
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Thank you very much! A description on how you did it, the equipment you used for soldering etc. would be highly interesting also. If you manage to get the extra ram working this is very good news!
tupisdin said:
Partminer.
crisscross said:
tupisdin said:
Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
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Where can you buy those RAM-modules?
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Sorry no success.
May be someone know how we can solve tis problem.
hay , i also wanna do this upgrade :- ) , but its wierd , acording to pics original was 2x32Mb .... so should work like you did 2x64....
can you also tell us how u desoldered the originals out and put new in
hi, i am new here. I owned a O2 Mini.
Like alot of u guys here, I am also using wifi and the internal memory is definitely not enough. Is it easy to open up the magician and install the ram ourselves or do we need to send it to ppctech?
I am from singapore and there is no ppctech here....
anyone can share (if best with pictures) how to open the magician and replace the ram.
thanks and cheers!
so wots happening wid the DIY memory upgrade .... anyone got it to work yet?
I've a little question, some time ago I've crashed my 2020, I can use the ram of this device on my s100?
Magician's new born bother in November, our solid new hope for WM5.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,43089
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Even though it looks so very similar to our Magician, they are not related. This is a copy made by another manufacturer, so I doubt they share the same hardware. Different hardware = different drivers = Atom WM5 no go on the Magician
Plus the Atom has 128 MB ROM, needed for WM5. 64 MB just is too small, considering that WM5 takes 85 MB on the Jasjar
Koksie said:
Plus the Atom has 128 MB ROM, needed for WM5. 64 MB just is too small, considering that WM5 takes 85 MB on the Jasjar
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Microsoft claims it will work on 64MB. Something to do with executing in place.
HBK said:
Even though it looks so very similar to our Magician, they are not related. This is a copy made by another manufacturer, so I doubt they share the same hardware. Different hardware = different drivers = Atom WM5 no go on the Magician
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Quanta Atom is actually the HTC Athena.
Look likes we finally got some clarity on this new device. It's by HTC.
Chances of portability are again better, but there may be differences in the camera, audio, and memory configuration that will need to be sorted out if one is to port the ROM image over to the Magician. Hopefully the hacker(s) won't end up bricking their device.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4306.html
The HTC Athena (Quanta Atom) is reported to have the following features:
Windows Mobile 5.0
XScale PXA272 at 416MHz
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
FM Radio
2.1MP camera
slimmer dimensions than HTC Magician
I just saw that too. I was finding it kinda weird that another company could get away with a rip off design like that
I agree that this could change things a bit. It looks like the hardware is basically the same as the Magician, so theoretically the ROM could run on the Magician, although of course a few things wouldn't work. But irl the chance of running the ROM from a different phone seems very small...
I read somewhere that the T-Mobile version of the Qtek S110 (128MB) would get WM5 as well.
That one is identical to the magician (except for the memory!)
I still think our best bet for the present would be the Raptor ROM (short of it not existing). A forbidden topic though.
That aside, certainly, if the 128MB Magician gets WM5, one would see no impediment in its function on current Magicians.
kneeslasher said the R-word!
No, seriously I can't see the R-ROM ever happening. It's been 14 days now, so even the most optimistic among us surely can smell a rotten rat by now.
There has been no official word frm HTC about WM5 for any of the present devices, so I think the S110 update is just wishful thinking.
Can't wait for someone to prove me wrong, though
Hello everyone
recently Everex has announced the release of WM5 for their E900 pocket pc to be distributed on cdz. the specs of of the E900 and the XDA II mini are exactly the same they only differ when it comes to the type of the processor.
I hopeit is just a matter of dumping the rom from the E900 and installing it on the XDA II mini.
cheers
Well theres your answer, the fact that the processors are different make it a whole lot harder for that rom to work on the magician. As for your thread title, the charmer already has wm5.
yeah but what i meant was a generic version of WM5 that works on the i-mate jam charcoal for example, i don't think i'll be happy with a ripped copy of the t-mobile version of WM5 on my PDA
You can't just have a generic version of an OS, it is all hardware dependant (which is why there are different OSs for Apple, x86 and x64 systems)
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
yup
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
O2mini_noob said:
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
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After I have established to the girlfriend on MPx200 WM2005 I shall believe in anything you like.
Hmmmmm...
I just saw that there is an upgrade to HP 21xx PDA-s. These have 64MB ROM only.... So??? I think that the problem is not the size of the ROM.
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O2mini_noob said:
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
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After I have established to the girlfriend on MPx200 WM2005 I shall believe in anything you like.
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On some sites I read news about memory upgrade for S100/Jam from 64 to 128 Mb RAM.
May be anyone know, what chip I need to buy for this memory upgrade?
With Upgrade is meaning that you must buy an Qtek S110
(it has 128MB RAM),
u cant buy a chip or any other hardware...
not entirely true, you can get a 128MB ram chip for your magician. There are more posts about it. Use search to find them.
[edit]http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19763&highlight=128+magician
In China,there are lots of guys updated although I don't think it's necessary plus i didn't find any store in UK is able to update the chip...
One more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20928
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...days=0&postorder=asc&highlight=128mb&start=25
Hi all,
I've been struggling a bit trying to run Navigon WM6 on WM6. But whatever ROM I tried, none of them had enough free program memory to actually let me use Navigon MN6 (or at least longer than 10mins.).
The last time I tried was some months ago (a 5.2.1908 b18508.0.7.0 / 2.11.00WWE ROM with a 1.18.00 radio).
Can someone tell me if there is a ROM currently available that lets me use run it? I don't care much about cool features or other memory consuming stuff, I just want a WM6 ROM with enough free Program (RAM) memory
It's just incredibly stupid that my girlfriend with her ancient MDAII (Himalaya) runs WM6 together with Navigon MN6 perfectly, while I can't with my relatively new MDA Pro!
And can someone explain to me why the hell even nowadays mobile devices still are being sold with only 64mb of internal memory???! Nothing has changed here in ages while memory prices have dropped enormously and technologies have moved on very rapidly...
Thanks,
Pepijn.