On some sites I read news about memory upgrade for S100/Jam from 64 to 128 Mb RAM.
May be anyone know, what chip I need to buy for this memory upgrade?
With Upgrade is meaning that you must buy an Qtek S110
(it has 128MB RAM),
u cant buy a chip or any other hardware...
not entirely true, you can get a 128MB ram chip for your magician. There are more posts about it. Use search to find them.
[edit]http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19763&highlight=128+magician
In China,there are lots of guys updated although I don't think it's necessary plus i didn't find any store in UK is able to update the chip...
One more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20928
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...days=0&postorder=asc&highlight=128mb&start=25
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Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
i don't think you can stack the memory on the magician. is that what you have done? according to the ppctechs website you can't do it.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=JAM-064-128RAM
I used chips of the same manufacturer... the same series... only greater volume.
It is not necessary to modify any in ROM... as at loading OS it defines how many memory is installed. Here problem in other... In old IPAQs it is necessary to move some resistor .... A question only what
According to ppctechs, they replace the 64mb chip with a 128mb chip, not 2x 64mb chips. you may need to use a 128mb chip.
no comments.
P.S. look at hardware pictures.
how can i download the magician
Download what?
You have to rub the magic lamp 3 times while closing your eyes and facing north.
tupisdin said:
Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
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Where can you buy those RAM-modules?
BTW, maybe the instructions can give you any hints in where you have gone wrong and if you need any resistors etc:
http://www.infineon.com/cmc_upload/documents/011/8819/HYB25L128160AC_2003-02.pdf
i think that you need some kind of softwere to make it work
i copyed this from ppc techs:
Q: Are your upgrades compatible with Pocket PC 2003?
A: Our upgrades have been fully tested with the release version of Pocket PC 2003 and are completely compatible. On most systems, PPC2003 does not support the 128MB natively, so our proprietary driver is still required. You will need a new copy of the driver for 2003. To obtain a new copy from us, please do the following:
Install your current version of the T2T Driver and soft-reset the system. Next, go into T2T Utility, turn on debug mode, exit the utility and soft-reset the system. Then email the T2TDisk.txt file located in the \Temp directory to [email protected] with a note requesting a 2003 driver.
I have an upgraded JAM by PPC Techs, and I can tell you that the T2T driver is NOT needed for this upgrade. (It was needed for my iPaq 4350 that I had upgraded last year)
PS And No, I am not going to open up my JAM to take pictures
tupisdin,
I admire your guts for taking on this job. I really hope you get it running
Partminer.
crisscross said:
tupisdin said:
Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
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Where can you buy those RAM-modules?
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Thank you very much! A description on how you did it, the equipment you used for soldering etc. would be highly interesting also. If you manage to get the extra ram working this is very good news!
tupisdin said:
Partminer.
crisscross said:
tupisdin said:
Some days ago i tried to replace memory chips in HTC Magician to increase memory to 128mb, but i had a problem.
After replacement the system has not seen full volume.... only 64mb
May be somebody know how to make it?
Regular BGA RAM p/n hyb25l256160ac-7.5 x 2 (2*32mb)
Upgrade BGA RAM p/n hyb25l512160ac-7.5 x 2 (2x64mb)
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Where can you buy those RAM-modules?
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Sorry no success.
May be someone know how we can solve tis problem.
hay , i also wanna do this upgrade :- ) , but its wierd , acording to pics original was 2x32Mb .... so should work like you did 2x64....
can you also tell us how u desoldered the originals out and put new in
hi, i am new here. I owned a O2 Mini.
Like alot of u guys here, I am also using wifi and the internal memory is definitely not enough. Is it easy to open up the magician and install the ram ourselves or do we need to send it to ppctech?
I am from singapore and there is no ppctech here....
anyone can share (if best with pictures) how to open the magician and replace the ram.
thanks and cheers!
so wots happening wid the DIY memory upgrade .... anyone got it to work yet?
I've a little question, some time ago I've crashed my 2020, I can use the ram of this device on my s100?
Sorry if this is old news but this looks like a magician (Qtek S110, i-mate Jam 128mb) with WM 5.0 could we use this ROM?
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/handhelds/0,39029444,39194767,00.htm
This device has 128 of RAM, and not 64 (as first devices like i-mate JAM for example). The problem of upgrading to WM 5.0 is how WM 5.0 manages memory of the device. In old WM versions 64 MB of RAM has been used for both storage and operational memory and we have/had the ability to adjust both kinds of memory (sizes) dynamically. Now is different. Both memories are completely independent (as it is on the PC). And the reason for not seeing any update for the ROM of 64 MB devices to WM 5.0 is that there is actually not enough memory. This is the easiest for understanding explanation. There is more detail clarification but it’s also more technical one.
My Qtek S110 has 128mb as does the charcoal (grey/gunmetal) coloured I-mate Jam. As long as this new model only has 64mb ROM I would imaging the new ROM will work
stevedebi said:
Nope. I don't think the internal device have drivers for the original S110.
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Yeah just noticed its got an OMAP processor
I'll get me coat :?
It is very well to make ROMS which supports 128Mb but like updating (at the material level) our HTC Universal?
Have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM and see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281560&page=25.
Basically, you need to get 2 ram chips of 64MB each, and replace the original chips of 32MB each on your universal mainboard. If you couldn't (de)solder the chips yourself, then it's best to find someone who's capable of doing it. At the moment, it's only reported it works with the g3. I haven't heard anything confirmed yet on the g4, though it was said that it should work fine. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348567&page=2)
Best.
mctoey said:
Have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM and see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281560&page=25.
Basically, you need to get 2 ram chips of 64MB each, and replace the original chips of 32MB each on your universal mainboard. If you couldn't (de)solder the chips yourself, then it's best to find someone who's capable of doing it. At the moment, it's only reported it works with the g3. I haven't heard anything confirmed yet on the g4, though it was said that it should work fine. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348567&page=2)
Best.
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Thanks for this information
upgrade from 64 to 128
i've read the procedure on how to upgrade uni ram from 64mb to 128mb...problem is where to get d 64 2X ram??? can anyone tell me where to get the chips and how much?? Your help is highly appreciated.
Where To Buy Ram Chips
Here is the link on where to get the ram chips http://octomobile.isl.hk/index.php?...ducts_id=300&zenid=fevcerl32hgjpk8hdv7tb0uqv7 Just make sure you have a G3 device. If you don't will not work with G4 Univerisals.
pictures / specs?
Due to high international shipping costs and customs fees here I would like to shop for the RAM modules locally.
Can anyone provide detailed specs for the required RAM chips? (Manufacturer, Product Number or at least Type, Timings, Form Factor, Voltage Ratings etc.?
A high resolution image might do the trick, too
Thanks guys, you're the best!
Have a look here...
These are the chips you need :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1645867&postcount=120
Then have a look in the wiki :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM
Though that said I'd have a look at the upgrade forum and read through the ram upgrading thread...
Park said:
Here is the link on where to get the ram chips http://octomobile.isl.hk/index.php?...ducts_id=300&zenid=fevcerl32hgjpk8hdv7tb0uqv7 Just make sure you have a G3 device. If you don't will not work with G4 Univerisals.
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why not g4?
there are already g4 users with successful upgrade.
Hi guys just wondering, we have 128MB RAM on our Kaisers. But even on the most lightest ROMs we can only free up about 70MB. Which means 128MB - 70MB = 58MB is used by OS and other stuff. But I remember that on my old Hermes which had 64MB RAM there used to be about 30MB free. Thats 64MB - 30MB = 34MB used by ths OS and other stuff. But how come the Kaiser uses 58MB(Kaiser used by OS RAM) - 34MB (Hermes used by OS RAM) = 24MB more ?
Is anyone kind enought to explain ? Maybe some ROM Cook could explain this ?
Thanks in advance !
Edit : 64 views and nobody has the answer ?
mem
This is kinda the byte and the bit thing. Htc says that the flash is 128 mb, but in real MB its 101.63 ( u can see it in settings - about). It's like when u buy a harddisk of 500gb, but when formated it has real 460 or so. Thus, if u do the maths, the os uses quite the same memory as wm5, or even less. Hope this clears it up for u!
but thats for harddrives not RAM. Oh well thats another fine mess.
it's used as ram but as a hardware it is flash memory. flash drives are like harddrives for what i know. so when they say 128 thwy really just want to squeeze every penny they can from buyers. its called advertising, the average form of manipulation. oh and by the way, also what tgey say is true, as in 128mb not MB, but thats only a tiny detail. ps the 64mb ram phones were the same...hardly did u see one above 48 real MB. Cheers
You're confusing RAM with ROM now. The Kaiser has 256Mb of ROM, which is technically implemented as flash memory, the harddrive if you like. This is where windows, your programs and your files are installed.
Then there's the RAM, 128Mb. this is volatile working memory for the CPU to run it's programs in. It has to be way faster than flash for your phone to be usable at al, and is probably implemented as SDRAM.
http://www.imate.com/810-F/
It's the worlds first water proof Windows Mobile Business phone.
Click on i-Mate's website's Facts and Figures and it says 2GB NAND RAM / 128 MB RAM / 256 MB ROM
It's also got an armored shell: it can withstand being run over by vehicles.
Temperature endurance: blazing hot / freezing cold
Pressure proof: will not implode/explode due to atmospheric pressure
I think this is the phone that super man has been looking for!
Other specs can be found at phonearena and gsmarena.
There is absolutely no connections or holes. It seems like you have to charge it on a cradle (somewhat similar to Palm pre, but it is necessary I think)
The phone has a 624 MHz processor, and I am not sure if you can expand the storage memory.
What do you guys think? What do you guys know? Why in the world does it have 2GB NAND Ram anyway?
Please, can someone explain to me the purpose of a 2GB RAM?
poetryrocksalot said:
Please, can someone explain to me the purpose of a 2GB RAM?
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Maybe some games. What application can need 2GB?
imate is alive????
lamborg said:
Maybe some games. What application can need 2GB?
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It's a business only phone... why the heck 2 GB RAM for windows mobile anyway?
RAM can't be NAND. i-mate must be referring to onboard flash (like in HTC Diamond or iPhone).
But it says RAM?
NAND RAM is used for storage, and is cheaper than conventional ram.
poetryrocksalot said:
But it says RAM?
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This is how good their marketing team is This is clearly a typo/mistake.
Check out https://www.imate.com/support/Specs/SpecSheet_810-F.pdf.
It still says NAND RAM, which is BS, but it's called internal storage there.