Hello everyone
recently Everex has announced the release of WM5 for their E900 pocket pc to be distributed on cdz. the specs of of the E900 and the XDA II mini are exactly the same they only differ when it comes to the type of the processor.
I hopeit is just a matter of dumping the rom from the E900 and installing it on the XDA II mini.
cheers
Well theres your answer, the fact that the processors are different make it a whole lot harder for that rom to work on the magician. As for your thread title, the charmer already has wm5.
yeah but what i meant was a generic version of WM5 that works on the i-mate jam charcoal for example, i don't think i'll be happy with a ripped copy of the t-mobile version of WM5 on my PDA
You can't just have a generic version of an OS, it is all hardware dependant (which is why there are different OSs for Apple, x86 and x64 systems)
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
yup
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
O2mini_noob said:
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
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After I have established to the girlfriend on MPx200 WM2005 I shall believe in anything you like.
Hmmmmm...
I just saw that there is an upgrade to HP 21xx PDA-s. These have 64MB ROM only.... So??? I think that the problem is not the size of the ROM.
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O2mini_noob said:
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
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After I have established to the girlfriend on MPx200 WM2005 I shall believe in anything you like.
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Magician's new born bother in November, our solid new hope for WM5.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,43089
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Even though it looks so very similar to our Magician, they are not related. This is a copy made by another manufacturer, so I doubt they share the same hardware. Different hardware = different drivers = Atom WM5 no go on the Magician
Plus the Atom has 128 MB ROM, needed for WM5. 64 MB just is too small, considering that WM5 takes 85 MB on the Jasjar
Koksie said:
Plus the Atom has 128 MB ROM, needed for WM5. 64 MB just is too small, considering that WM5 takes 85 MB on the Jasjar
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Microsoft claims it will work on 64MB. Something to do with executing in place.
HBK said:
Even though it looks so very similar to our Magician, they are not related. This is a copy made by another manufacturer, so I doubt they share the same hardware. Different hardware = different drivers = Atom WM5 no go on the Magician
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Quanta Atom is actually the HTC Athena.
Look likes we finally got some clarity on this new device. It's by HTC.
Chances of portability are again better, but there may be differences in the camera, audio, and memory configuration that will need to be sorted out if one is to port the ROM image over to the Magician. Hopefully the hacker(s) won't end up bricking their device.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4306.html
The HTC Athena (Quanta Atom) is reported to have the following features:
Windows Mobile 5.0
XScale PXA272 at 416MHz
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
FM Radio
2.1MP camera
slimmer dimensions than HTC Magician
I just saw that too. I was finding it kinda weird that another company could get away with a rip off design like that
I agree that this could change things a bit. It looks like the hardware is basically the same as the Magician, so theoretically the ROM could run on the Magician, although of course a few things wouldn't work. But irl the chance of running the ROM from a different phone seems very small...
I read somewhere that the T-Mobile version of the Qtek S110 (128MB) would get WM5 as well.
That one is identical to the magician (except for the memory!)
I still think our best bet for the present would be the Raptor ROM (short of it not existing). A forbidden topic though.
That aside, certainly, if the 128MB Magician gets WM5, one would see no impediment in its function on current Magicians.
kneeslasher said the R-word!
No, seriously I can't see the R-ROM ever happening. It's been 14 days now, so even the most optimistic among us surely can smell a rotten rat by now.
There has been no official word frm HTC about WM5 for any of the present devices, so I think the S110 update is just wishful thinking.
Can't wait for someone to prove me wrong, though
Sorry if this is old news but this looks like a magician (Qtek S110, i-mate Jam 128mb) with WM 5.0 could we use this ROM?
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/handhelds/0,39029444,39194767,00.htm
This device has 128 of RAM, and not 64 (as first devices like i-mate JAM for example). The problem of upgrading to WM 5.0 is how WM 5.0 manages memory of the device. In old WM versions 64 MB of RAM has been used for both storage and operational memory and we have/had the ability to adjust both kinds of memory (sizes) dynamically. Now is different. Both memories are completely independent (as it is on the PC). And the reason for not seeing any update for the ROM of 64 MB devices to WM 5.0 is that there is actually not enough memory. This is the easiest for understanding explanation. There is more detail clarification but it’s also more technical one.
My Qtek S110 has 128mb as does the charcoal (grey/gunmetal) coloured I-mate Jam. As long as this new model only has 64mb ROM I would imaging the new ROM will work
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Nope. I don't think the internal device have drivers for the original S110.
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Yeah just noticed its got an OMAP processor
I'll get me coat :?
How can i know about the page pool size of my MDA VARIO. mean which version of ROM to download.
I also like to know if I upgrade to wm6 will my MDA vario will get slow or what as I think wm6 looks like VISTA. I have OMAP850-195MHz processor and 44.04 MB Memory
thanks!
hello
Somone try wirte to vox rom from s730 ? or can be it relly and meby work or not ? its to same smart and difrents are more ram faster cpu and gps ( but vox to have "gps" ;D )
Meby its good idea to get new rom's to vox or if cant be use from wings meby remake something and then be work
sorry for my eng;/
Seeing as a lot of s730 users complain about very low memory on their devices I wouldn't want to try adaptating the whole rom to the Vox
However I already stole some nice things from it, like rsshub which is very good.
Mh RSS hub is an old version of NewsBreak!
Dr. Martin Gonzo said:
Seeing as a lot of s730 users complain about very low memory on their devices I wouldn't want to try adaptating the whole rom to the Vox
However I already stole some nice things from it, like rsshub which is very good.
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128 ram on wm06 and low memory ? meby they dont have vox ;D hehe
PS. rss hub its in 3dmenu pack
But newsbreak is not free or did I miss something ?
unkown said:
128 ram on wm06 and low memory ? meby they dont have vox ;D hehe
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Actually it's a 64mb ram device.
madds said:
Actually it's a 64mb ram device.
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s730 have 64mb ? i allways hear its 128mb ;| so if have low memory its lake vox and meby on rom from s730 vox will better work
Yes you are right, it isn't free! And RSSHub has nearly the same features!
never really got why they made the s730 with 64mb (if you are correct)...i mean most smartphones nowadays are embedded wtih 128mb are they not? would be awesome if my vox had 128 always finding myself cleaning the vox to save memory
oh and with teh s730 being thicker than the s710 does the s730 offer anything more than more storage and faster cpu?
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oh and with teh s730 being thicker than the s710 does the s730 offer anything more than more storage and faster cpu?
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the things missing from S710 ... GPS, 3G
hi i have a i-mate jasjam running a cooked 6.5 rom and only 4mb pagepool and the thing im unsure about is the specs said it has 64mb ram and with the pagepool set to 4mb wouldnt that leave me with 60mb total ram instead of 50mb?? any help would be great thanks