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HTC Atom - We're not alone ..... WM5 for Magician

Magician's new born bother in November, our solid new hope for WM5.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,43089
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Even though it looks so very similar to our Magician, they are not related. This is a copy made by another manufacturer, so I doubt they share the same hardware. Different hardware = different drivers = Atom WM5 no go on the Magician

Plus the Atom has 128 MB ROM, needed for WM5. 64 MB just is too small, considering that WM5 takes 85 MB on the Jasjar

Koksie said:
Plus the Atom has 128 MB ROM, needed for WM5. 64 MB just is too small, considering that WM5 takes 85 MB on the Jasjar
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Microsoft claims it will work on 64MB. Something to do with executing in place.

HBK said:
Even though it looks so very similar to our Magician, they are not related. This is a copy made by another manufacturer, so I doubt they share the same hardware. Different hardware = different drivers = Atom WM5 no go on the Magician
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Quanta Atom is actually the HTC Athena.
Look likes we finally got some clarity on this new device. It's by HTC.
Chances of portability are again better, but there may be differences in the camera, audio, and memory configuration that will need to be sorted out if one is to port the ROM image over to the Magician. Hopefully the hacker(s) won't end up bricking their device.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4306.html
The HTC Athena (Quanta Atom) is reported to have the following features:
Windows Mobile 5.0
XScale PXA272 at 416MHz
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
FM Radio
2.1MP camera
slimmer dimensions than HTC Magician

I just saw that too. I was finding it kinda weird that another company could get away with a rip off design like that
I agree that this could change things a bit. It looks like the hardware is basically the same as the Magician, so theoretically the ROM could run on the Magician, although of course a few things wouldn't work. But irl the chance of running the ROM from a different phone seems very small...

I read somewhere that the T-Mobile version of the Qtek S110 (128MB) would get WM5 as well.
That one is identical to the magician (except for the memory!)

I still think our best bet for the present would be the Raptor ROM (short of it not existing). A forbidden topic though.
That aside, certainly, if the 128MB Magician gets WM5, one would see no impediment in its function on current Magicians.

kneeslasher said the R-word!
No, seriously I can't see the R-ROM ever happening. It's been 14 days now, so even the most optimistic among us surely can smell a rotten rat by now.
There has been no official word frm HTC about WM5 for any of the present devices, so I think the S110 update is just wishful thinking.
Can't wait for someone to prove me wrong, though

A hope of having WM5 on Imate Jam (charcoal) or HTC Charmer

Hello everyone
recently Everex has announced the release of WM5 for their E900 pocket pc to be distributed on cdz. the specs of of the E900 and the XDA II mini are exactly the same they only differ when it comes to the type of the processor.
I hopeit is just a matter of dumping the rom from the E900 and installing it on the XDA II mini.
cheers

Well theres your answer, the fact that the processors are different make it a whole lot harder for that rom to work on the magician. As for your thread title, the charmer already has wm5.

yeah but what i meant was a generic version of WM5 that works on the i-mate jam charcoal for example, i don't think i'll be happy with a ripped copy of the t-mobile version of WM5 on my PDA

You can't just have a generic version of an OS, it is all hardware dependant (which is why there are different OSs for Apple, x86 and x64 systems)

so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?

yup

7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.

O2mini_noob said:
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
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After I have established to the girlfriend on MPx200 WM2005 I shall believe in anything you like.

Hmmmmm...
I just saw that there is an upgrade to HP 21xx PDA-s. These have 64MB ROM only.... So??? I think that the problem is not the size of the ROM.
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O2mini_noob said:
7d5 said:
so what you're saying is that until someone takes the time to cook up a WM5 version for an imate jam (charcoal), WM5 will still be a dream for imate jam (charcoal) users?
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It's not going to happen I'm afraid..even though the JAM Special Edition has 128MB RAM, all the RAM will only be catered for running programs as WM5.0
uses the Storage to store everything that used to be in the RAM.
HTC or O2 or I-Mate etc. cannot release the WM5.0 for the Magician because of the way they allocate the Storage space. Just look at O2 Atom and Dopod 818 Pro. Each of them advertised their storage space to be 128MB ROM but Atom only has 22MB free for user and Dopod 40MB free for user.
Look at the Magician, out of 64MB, only 7MB storage is available. So based on what has been released so far, there is no way to fit a WM5.0 into the Magician.
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After I have established to the girlfriend on MPx200 WM2005 I shall believe in anything you like.
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which windows mobile is the fastest ?

hiii all
i just wana ask which windows mobile has a perfect RAM , ROM , Processor ?
with perfect battery life
i want the fastest windows mobile
thanx for your support

Windows Mobile Version 6 is the BEST for me,. instead of Windows Mobile Version 6.1,.

funny thing u ask. My wife has a polaris also with very little else installed (original 6.0) so it is clean. I have tweaked my polaris and have original 6.1 but have alot of apps installed.... so of course hers runs quicker, but it is only fractionally.
there is no such thing as the perfect device.

timmymarsh said:
funny thing u ask. My wife has a polaris also with very little else installed (original 6.0) so it is clean. I have tweaked my polaris and have original 6.1 but have alot of apps installed.... so of course hers runs quicker, but it is only fractionally.
there is no such thing as the perfect device.
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Thats true my friend,.

here here!
timmymarsh said:
funny thing u ask. My wife has a polaris also with very little else installed (original 6.0) so it is clean. I have tweaked my polaris and have original 6.1 but have alot of apps installed.... so of course hers runs quicker, but it is only fractionally.
there is no such thing as the perfect device.
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whats perfect for you may be pants for me

i didnt mean the operating system , i meant the phone , i want the best mobile with windows mobile operating system

There is no such single answer as everybody's needs are different.
It's a bit like asking which car is best, again no single correct answer.
The question you need to be asking is which phone is best for ... and then detail what you are looking for it to do.

Take a look here.

sorry
ask anyone and theres will always be best.....
so in reality all phones to everone are the best....to them any how

i know what i want (touch HD) and i dont care if its the best or not

timmymarsh said:
i know what i want (touch HD) and i dont care if its the best or not
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NO kidding i want a touch hd too..... it seems by bank account won't support buying it outright and importing it to the US though

joel2009 said:
NO kidding i want a touch hd too..... it seems by bank account won't support buying it outright and importing it to the US though
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haha, knwo the feeling, anyone need a polaris and a prophet, maybe a kidney.......

thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx alot , i have an elf , but the phone performance is very very slow , is there anything i can do to make it look faster without overclocking ?also i have only 10mb on my main memory and in use is 39.26mb, what should i do to have more free memory on it?

WM2003 Beta

nir36 said:
WM2003 Beta
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hahahahaha i nearly pissed myself then

lol. relax... or i'll suggest Alpha

The Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 has 384 MB of RAM.
The Samsung SCH-M495 T*OMNIA has a 16 GB of ROM and a microSDHC slot so you could have 32 GB total.
The Asus P565, the LG KC1, the Samsung SCH-M490 T*Omnia, and the Samsung SCH-M495 T*Omnia all have 800 MHz CPUs.
This isn't speed-related, but the Asus P835, the HTC Max 4G, the HTC Touch HD, the Samsung SCH-M490 T*Omnia, the Samsung SCH-M495 T*Omnia, the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, the Toshiba Portege G900, and the Toshiba Portege G910 all have WVGA (800x480 or 480x800) screens.

feanor512 said:
The Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 has 384 MB of RAM.
The Samsung SCH-M495 T*OMNIA has a 16 GB of ROM and a microSDHC slot so you could have 32 GB total.
The Asus P565, the LG KC1, the Samsung SCH-M490 T*Omnia, and the Samsung SCH-M495 T*Omnia all have 800 MHz CPUs.
This isn't speed-related, but the Asus P835, the HTC Max 4G, the HTC Touch HD, the Samsung SCH-M490 T*Omnia, the Samsung SCH-M495 T*Omnia, the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, the Toshiba Portege G900, and the Toshiba Portege G910 all have WVGA (800x480 or 480x800) screens.
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I believe he was asking about OS and not that much about devices...
I like my BA with WM 6.1 build 20758... and counting
Again, a matter of personal choice.

thanx all for your support , i want to buy a new mobile , but i dont know which one should i choose ? thats why iam asking about device and OS , i like the sonyericson xperia x1 , soo great mobile , but how about its sound and battery ? coz the htc's sound isn't good , and the battery also , i thought maybe xperia x1 has better sound and battery than htc?

Good Luck! Spend your money wisely doing your research before you spend it all in one place.

HTC S730 vs HTC Touch elf

Hello!I got a real problem i do not know witch one of this two devices should i pick the s730 got a cpu at 400mhz but elf got only at 200mhz,elf got 128ram but s730 got only 64mb of ram here are the two reviews of the devices:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1045 HTC S730 (WINGS)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=947 HTC ELF (P3452)
Please help me chose...

Profy_X said:
Hello!I got a real problem i do not know witch one of this two devices should i pick the s730 got a cpu at 400mhz but elf got only at 200mhz,elf got 128ram but s730 got only 64mb of ram here are the two reviews of the devices:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1045 HTC S730 (WINGS)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=947 HTC ELF (P3452)
Please help me chose...
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I think that more than the processor power you should analize if you prefer a device with physical keyboard or not
I personally would go for s710 because the kb
Just my opinion

Elfin has WIFI the other one does not -

hotrod101 said:
Elfin has WIFI the other one does not -
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Wrong, both Elfin and s710 aka Vox have wifi

orb3000 said:
Wrong, both Elfin and s710 aka Vox have wifi
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Thanks Orb, I stand corrected. I missed it while reading the specs.

New Version for Uni......

Hi!
Is someone working on a new windows version for Uni? Where are the CHEFs? It's been some time now that we have no new version for our beloved Uni. It seems that either the CHEFs are busy working to bring something good for the Uni or have the great CHEFs departed the forum. Please, do come up and let us test something new, to enjoy a new build of WM6.5 or WM7.
Looking forward to have something tempting for our Uni.

Yes, it would be nice to have a new ROM!
Tomal still active, I read a post from Thingonaspring too.
Hope they have something on the oven

Things are slowing down big style on this forum though, Im just starting to go through all the roms to find the best to suit my needs and stick with it. the only thing i was considering was the 128mb upgrade IF its worth doing, not sure on that one though. anyone who has had an upgrade would like to comment i would be grateful.
Jay

@responderman
If you want to find out what 128mb is like, just flash a 128mb rom to your 64mb uni. It'll work fine and you'll be able to see the benefits of having no pagepool (it's a lot quicker). The only drawback is that with no memory management the phone will crash a lot when memory fills up. So just do a test, see what you think then flash back to 64mb rom.

thingonaspring said:
@responderman
If you want to find out what 128mb is like, just flash a 128mb rom to your 64mb uni. It'll work fine and you'll be able to see the benefits of having no pagepool (it's a lot quicker). The only drawback is that with no memory management the phone will crash a lot when memory fills up. So just do a test, see what you think then flash back to 64mb rom.
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Hi Thingonaspring,
Thanks for the heads up, I shall try that.
Regards
Jay

So, If WM7 gonna be able to run on uni?
Coz am thinking of changing to HD2 when WM7 is released, unless we can get it for uni

Simon_WM said:
So, If WM7 gonna be able to run on uni?
Coz am thinking of changing to HD2 when WM7 is released, unless we can get it for uni
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I guess no as the minimum specs are too high for WM7.

*****
this is not good, looks like i will be getting HD2 then.

That's not good at all, but I like the QWERTY keyboard and form factor of my Universal, so I will stay with it HD2 is good hardware platform, but it's not for me.

true,
Uni has good features, like a Full QWERTY key board.
which the HD2 dosen't do,
Although HD2 has bigger screen, Bigger Memmory, Better Camera, Touchflo 3D G-Senor
Whic are the main things i really now like :/

Win_XP said:
That's not good at all, but I like the QWERTY keyboard and form factor of my Universal, so I will stay with it HD2 is good hardware platform, but it's not for me.
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Same here, no keyboard is no interest for me, even if it´s a 1ghz processor...
I have a Rhodium and it´s great but still miss the great form factos of unbeatable Uni!!