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Back to WM5... possible?

Hello guys
Is reverting to an official WM5 rom possible? I've seen posts on other forums which claim that downgrading is risky... can anyone advise?
Thank you in advance!

Yes, it should go, but if you made some docx-files with office 6.1, you have to convert them ...
and you should save your PIM not with a backup tool, you should take activesync
Greetings
Max

akpidis said:
Hello guys
Is reverting to an official WM5 rom possible? I've seen posts on other forums which claim that downgrading is risky... can anyone advise?
Thank you in advance!
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I have done it from WM5 to WM6. Then to compare back to WM5 and still back to WM6. And not planing to do it again.
WM6 better.
Thanks to every one involved in kooking!!!

WM6 is better how?

it has all i need.
And it looks better to!!!!!
It is more fun to try different release every week.
I softreset my O2 EXEC less then on WM5.
But it is personal taste any way.
Every one to make their own choice!
P.S. Didnt notice you like your vedeo call! Sorry.
I had video phone since they came out on 3G (2003?). But over whall time used it 3 times max.

no such problem,u can download offcial version here
http://218.93.115.138/d900/wm5

Optika said:
it has all i need.
And it looks better to!!!!!
It is more fun to try different release every week.
I softreset my O2 EXEC less then on WM5.
But it is personal taste any way.
Every one to make their own choice!
P.S. Didnt notice you like your vedeo call! Sorry.
I had video phone since they came out on 3G (2003?). But over whall time used it 3 times max.
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Ahh.. yeah.. it looks better.. I just use wisbar to compensate for that though.
And yes, video call is very important to me.

The best way is to send a mass mail for wm6 video call for uni to HTC.

akpidis said:
Hello guys
Is reverting to an official WM5 rom possible? I've seen posts on other forums which claim that downgrading is risky... can anyone advise?
Thank you in advance!
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It definitely is possible to go back to WM5.
In fact, after extensive experimenting with WM6 images designed by our gurus here, I regretfully had to go back to WM5, because I use my Exec for business; it was a hard decision to make, because I liked having new Office Mobile formats on board, but the following reasons brought me back to WM5:
1) inability to get onto Wi-Fi networks.
2) inability to get certificate stored on device for Exchange push mail (easily done on WM5, may be I didn't try hard enough on Six...)
3) hang-ups during off-peak hours when trying to leave GPRS/UMTS on.
4) minor niggling interface errors.
You just get an image for your brand of Universal and load it into the device as usual.

Now trying to build a hybrid ROM (wm5 core, with WM6 features)

I'll wait and check if anyone can guess what's currently on my uni!!!
Hints?? -
- Its really reallyyy fast!!
- Stable as it can ever be!!
- Hasnt crashed since long, and i'm hell confident it wont for quite a long time!
- Around 25-30 Megs free RAM any given time!!
Anyone???

sound like Nncuong 2.11.11, in my G4.
am I right?

I hope it's Mamaich's new build (G3/G4 with flashdisk and 128mb ram) and that you share it soon.
dreamtheater39 said:
I'll wait and check if anyone can guess what's currently on my uni!!!
Hints?? -
- Its really reallyyy fast!!
- Stable as it can ever be!!
- Hasnt crashed since long, and i'm hell confident it wont for quite a long time!
- Around 25-30 Megs free RAM any given time!!
Anyone???
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2003se? lol

Midget_1990 said:
2003se? lol
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xD
yeah. sounds like an wm5 or something like that.

yep,I think it s WM5 3.3

haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
The problem is - my phone goes to sleep with me at night, I wake up, and my phone doesnt! Only the radio portion is dead, and the rest of the device is usable.
Is there any tool like a "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" on my uni? So that i can wipe out ever resident bit on it to get it to a virgin state?
Hmmm....now this is getting crazy for sure! Guess I'll try changing the radios and see if something works....
San

I have exactly same problem. I think the GSM radio is bust... I ordered new mother board after many attempts at flashing, repairing...
Will report when I get it,
--Summoner

dreamtheater39 said:
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
San
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Hi San,
1. Out of curiosity, what Radio version are you using with wm5?
2. Is it the same Radio version provided by the seller of your Universal brand?
3. If not, than can you flash the original Radio version version provided by the seller of your Universal brand and see the difference then?
KOR!

Hey!
I made no changes, continued running in 1.17 radio.....and hasnt crashed as yet The same config crashed last morning, and hasnt crashed since then....it looks very stable so far, no soft resets at all :-/
I hate wm5 for many many reasons, i'm thissss close to jumping back...
I miss the phone app of wm6, miss the keyboard shortcuts all over (messaging app mainly!) and quick searching feature. I'll try cooking a custom wm5 rom with wm6's phone and messaging app when i have some time, if that works, then that would be just perfect!
@KOR
Its 1.17 radio....looks like its working fine now! will wait a while longer and post in....looks like wm5 is no doubt much more stable when compared to wm6
San

Hey guys...
Giving it a go - merging wm6 features with a wm5 rom! Lets see how that goes, i hope i dont end up bricking my device
Cheers,
San

Disappointment
It throws "cprog.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application" and the phone module does not power up at all :-/
Looks like wm6's phone app is not designed to run on wm5. Can someone else with more experience give a shot at this?
Cheers,
San

dreamtheater39 said:
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
The problem is - my phone goes to sleep with me at night, I wake up, and my phone doesnt! Only the radio portion is dead, and the rest of the device is usable.
Is there any tool like a "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" on my uni? So that i can wipe out ever resident bit on it to get it to a virgin state?
Hmmm....now this is getting crazy for sure! Guess I'll try changing the radios and see if something works....
San
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Hi,
How old is your battery ???
(and have you tried " mtty " ?
greetings,
Wout

dreamtheater39 said:
Disappointment
It throws "cprog.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application" and the phone module does not power up at all :-/
Looks like wm6's phone app is not designed to run on wm5. Can someone else with more experience give a shot at this?
Cheers,
San
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hi, for my case, i have based the last official xv6700 rom aku v3.3, it is wm5, and i downloaded Microsoft Device Emulator wm6. my idea is wm6 os, with official wm5 hardware driver. put wm6 os to replace wm5 os in the aku v3.3 rom.
i still have not to start move any files. because i don't know what is files need to moves.
regards.

Just got off the phone with HTC!!!!!

According to Htc, and *****ing at their managers for an hour, I came to find out that they are currently working on a rom update for the Tytn II/Kaiser/Tilt to be released before mid febuary
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In my opionion this is way to long!!!
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They also said they cannot release any more details, although the only reason it is taking so long is because that they are trying to fix multiple things not just the video issues and they are trying to put them all into one package instead of having 10 different packages at once.

nice, thanks for the info.
i'll keep an eye out.

any more details, wm 6.1, gpu driver???

yup. do u have more details? or where we can find details about it?
(in my concern, they said me that they will send me an email when new updates are available )

Hey if they said they are working on a new rom update, that is WONDERFUL news!!!!!

Not to sceptical but...
Not to be downplaying the situation...but I will believe when I see it.

If its 6.1 ill crap myself.
If its 6.01* ill tell you all 'I told you so'
*6.01 meaning just a rom update, not an OS update

I believe they will release an updated ROM for the Kaiser, but I don't think it will solve the video driver issue.
HTC seems to ignore anything about this issue, and said they won't fix it.
However, I hope I'm just wrong and they do release a fix!

doubtful..

I dont care if it's 6.0 or 6.1 as long as the significant issues are fixed, like video drivers, laggy touch screen, freezing for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, PIE lag, and crappy camera.

rant
It really sucks that we are holding a powerful phone but cant use its true power, its just like owning a ferrari enzo and not being able to drive above 25mph. Maybe they wont fix it and just release a new phone with everything working and calling it tytn 3 with the same inside but a new case.

Sent a mail to HTC, will see what they will reply as to what the situation is. I hope for video driver fix at all!

jakeypoo said:
doubtful..
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Ahu..We will see..

yaaaay. cant wait.

look forward to upgrade
i hope they put their backs into it.. tired of this video issues...

I called HTC Middle East Support ; and they confirmed that they do not know this issue ? !! and I think they are not understanding what we are talking about !!

Maybe they will do it like Nokia and release a Tytn IIi and let the customer pay for fixing the Tytn II
edit: Oh and did I mention the Tytn IIi will come in a new color? Uh will definately get that one ;-)
(yeah, I'm a former Nokia N95 owner)

seeing is believing.. don't get your hopes up

Well lets just hold thumbs that it might just be 6.1 !

I hope they take care of the #$*@$!!$^@(!!!!! low bluetooth volume.

Best Radio Version

I have been having a lot of distortion problem with my Vox. So help me out. Currently I am using 4.1.13.60_03.18.90.
Kindly vote and tell your experience with different versions.

I never had any problems with 03.10.90! But then again my state is fairly good covered (Saxony). I think only like 2% of the area is not covered with GSM (and lately more and more with EDGE too)!

I plan on giving a thorough test of all the later versions once I re-assemble my mobile. I also noticed high distortion on 4.1.13.60_03.18.90 immediately after flashing. I am led to believe this was a small reason my ear piece failed, the distortion and higher volume 'popped' in and it would no longer function properly, heck, it could also have been since it was quite old too.
Anyways, for good measure I will be reverting to 4.1.13.47_02.98.90, I never had issues with the radio shipped from the factory and coverage was no problem. I suggest you downgrade before any hardware has a chance at being ruined.

h4waii is true. I have installed several radios and I have found 4.1.13.47_02.98.90 the best especialy for areas with weak signals.

h4waii said:
Anyways, for good measure I will be reverting to 4.1.13.47_02.98.90, I never had issues with the radio shipped from the factory and coverage was no problem. I suggest you downgrade before any hardware has a chance at being ruined.
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I read your thread that you are reassembling your phone. I hope you will put a video guide for others too. That will be very useful.
I was reading through forum and I came across a post in which he had said that he pulled out the battery and put it after a few hours and things were back to normal. Well I tried it and I dont know what is the logic but it worked. Still echos on high volume but other reception distortion is gone.
Can radio damage your phone? Mine was shipped with v4.1.13.54_03.10.90.
@frauhottelmann
You have cooked a lite rom and it is not with latest XIP. Why you and Gonzo are not updating their Roms. Lefab also not working on WM6.1 Rom. Only one working is Hikey, and he does not have a thread here. I requested him in post but he refused by saying their are already too many roms here. Is it possible to hope that one of you will bring a clean Rom with latest XIP. New XIP is much faster.

i use v4.1.13.60_03.18.90
I have never noticed this distortion you mention

I can tel you why I never did continue cooking. There are three reasons:
1) I simply got tired. It is in fact a quite annyoing process. Espacially working on a 96dpi ROM, everytime you fixed something another problem turns up.
2) I experimented with OSs on my computer (from XP to Vista to Server 2008 to Vista and in the end of the week back to XP - the switching back is due to hardware problems) lol And cooking under anything else then XP is not quite safe and I experienced more problems under Vista!
3) Nobody ever requested a new updated Lite ROM (at least until now ^^) because people usually just download the stuff and don't report back unless there is a problem (you get sick of that too!)
Hey I will have time next week, so I will probably make Lite 3.0 with new XIP...the problem is that I don't have the Sys and OEM folders anymore, so I will have to start from scratch...

frauhottelmann said:
I can tel you why I never did continue cooking. There are three reasons:
1) I simply got tired. It is in fact a quite annyoing process. Espacially working on a 96dpi ROM, everytime you fixed something another problem turns up.
2) I experimented with OSs on my computer (from XP to Vista to Server 2008 to Vista and in the end of the week back to XP - the switching back is due to hardware problems) lol And cooking under anything else then XP is not quite safe and I experienced more problems under Vista!
3) Nobody ever requested a new updated Lite ROM (at least until now ^^) because people usually just download the stuff and don't report back unless there is a problem (you get sick of that too!)
Hey I will have time next week, so I will probably make Lite 3.0 with new XIP...the problem is that I don't have the Sys and OEM folders anymore, so I will have to start from scratch...
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Hmmm you are quite right about the feedback thing. If you work hard on something it no one appreciates it obviously it hurts.
Well atleast I will wait for your new rom. I hope you do something about java. Add jebed or provide link to cab for you new rom.
I did tried your rom, I would have kept it but new XIP is much faster so I had to switch.

@tipu2185;
While a radio in itself can't really damage your hardware, issues caused by it can. Such as high distortion and crackling, this can ruin a speaker. With the right software, hardware can be destroyed.
I've already re-assembled the Vox after replacing both the vibrate motor and the inner ear piece. It's fairly straight forward. I didn't bother to take any pictures as there is a service manual which indicates step-by-step how to do this.

h4waii said:
@tipu2185;
While a radio in itself can't really damage your hardware, issues caused by it can. Such as high distortion and crackling, this can ruin a speaker. With the right software, hardware can be destroyed.
I've already re-assembled the Vox after replacing both the vibrate motor and the inner ear piece. It's fairly straight forward. I didn't bother to take any pictures as there is a service manual which indicates step-by-step how to do this.
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Can you link to that service manual. I might need it later some time.

Tipu2185,
How are you finding this radio version so far? Have yor initial problems gone?

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Tipu2185,
How are you finding this radio version so far? Have yor initial problems gone?
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Yes it is working fine now

Where?
I want to installl Radio v4.1.13.60_03.18.90, but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone care to provide a download link?
Thanks!

DUTCH said:
I want to installl Radio v4.1.13.60_03.18.90, but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone care to provide a download link?
Thanks!
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check the wiki in first two sticky threads. It is there

tipu2185 said:
check the wiki in first two sticky threads. It is there
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I searched for 20min and finally found it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402778
Thanks!

Palm Treo Pro (850) Groups

So, XDA guys, when is a grouping for the new Palm Treo Pro gonna be setup?

WOW, i think this will be the KING OF DEVICES for now !
Some pictures: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/08/20/palm-treo-pro-unboxing-and-hands-on/
Ik hope the XDA developers will find a working CAB-file for voip calling over wifi AND 3G, and by using the internal speaker.
The Treo Pro is manufactured by HTC, by the way. So i hope this will help.

if i were you i'd ask it in this forum
About xda-developers.com
Anything to do more with the site than with the phones. Feature requests, announcements, praise, moaning, etc.

Yep, it's going to be made by HTC. This device will ROCK!
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39009/149/

Palm Treo Pro Forum
As it is produced by HTC, maybe the first step is to get a forum for it on XDA Developers ?

See the unboxing video: http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/palm_treo_pro_unboxed.html

This is the next God device.
Palm have the design right but in the past years they just seemed to pop out the same devices over and over. I'm glad to see Wi-Fi, GPS and power at last.
You can tap yourself in the back this time, you really deserve it!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=1387
"It looks like HTC made the Palm Treo Pro. I think this is great news for the Treo Pro buyer because HTC is a proven player in the touch screen Windows Mobile market. Another thing is that the excellent resources at XDA Developers may be able to support customizations of the device for those who like to tweak things."

up
and one more for the palm treo pro forum

O.K. I had the possibility to make a test with this device !
I can confirm: this is really the KING DEVICE for now ! It has a really perfect size in your hands. Less PDA and more smartphone (but with all PDA functionalities)
But bad news too: As it is produced by HTC voip calling has the HTC/Fring bug: it uses the speaker on the back and not the earspeaker which should be
Voip calling over 3G didn't work too: you can dial a number, you can pick up the other line and there is a connection, but the line is DEAD, no sound both connections
For testing I used this files: http://voipguides.blogspot.com/2008/05/voip-sip-client-for-windows-mobile-6.html

Has anyone else Pre-ordered they Treo Pro? I just ordered mine this week and can't wait for shipping. I have heard over on Treocentral that someone has already received the device. I am hoping that America side starts shipping next week!!

I have my Treo Pro for a few days now, I really hope there will be an XDA forum for the Treo Pro (850).
Meanwhile, I've started a new website with tips and tricks: http://www.treoprotricks.com

oVan said:
I have my Treo Pro for a few days now, I really hope there will be an XDA forum for the Treo Pro (850).
Meanwhile, I've started a new website with tips and tricks: http://www.treoprotricks.com
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Another vote for a Treo Pro forum.
Mine shipped overnight on UPS to Chicago - just got tracking number!

i bought my treo pro yesterday and im pretty happy with it
there were several things i would have made in a different way like a mini-usb connector instead of an micro-usb one but at least its some standarized connector
still mini usb would be more practical
a seperate forum for the treo would be nice
right now i am fighting with the installations of my progs
most of the times an current version of software will solve problems with the 320*320 screen
one kind of program i am still looking for is a replacement for novii remote
i was hoping to be able to use the infrared port as a rc...

I just got mine a couple of hours ago, am enjoying playing with it. I too hope they start and Treo Pro forum...will be helpful.

als long as there is no new forum for this phone i will keep posting interesting stuff i find out about my treo pro here
one very annozing thing i found out was:
- while listening to music with the screen off i heard short interruptions which after i checked it occured exactly every minute
- to "fix" this you have to disable the screen saver (the clock and date display on the deactivated screen) in settings>system>power options (might be called slightly different but sorry i only have a german device)
this is a pity that you have to do this in order to listen to music without problems
but it annoyed me after a while that much that i finally can live with that

I have really enjoyed playing this this new toy this weekend (the heck with the homework!)
Anyway, a couple of things and maybe one of you can help me out. I so wanted to use UL but when I installed I can't see all of the configuration pages and there are no scroll bars for me to scroll down to finish the configuration. Very Frustrating.
Also I tried the RealVGA cab and it messed up my today screen really bad, plus it made everything so tiny I couldn't read it with out my reading glasses, not good for me. So that didn't work.
Also there is a huge lack of themes for the Treo, I never realized the huge difference between this and a regular 240x 320 screen.
Anyway for right now I am using Home++ Floyd Base Theme, and using SecondToday to run my WeatherPanel and FaceContacts.
So far I am liking this new toy...I am getting use to the keyboard but I will get there and I love the screen! I was actually outside today in the sun and could see it and read my emails!

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...(the heck with the homework!)...
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^^exactly my thoughts too today
i also must admit that its a bit frustrating to see how many programs have problems with 320*320...
the good thing is that everything i need is available in a version which runs smoothly most of the times(except tomeraider3 which has graphic bugs and the search only works with the softwarekeyboard -.-)
i als might add that the audio skip problem occured to me while using mortplayer as my mp3 player app...
so far im still playing around with this little fella
what caught my attention was that the treo pro uses around 60mA of current while in my typical ebook reader setup(backlight dimmed to the max but stiil on)
this could mean a decent battery runtime but its hard to say after just 3 days
the first impression is rather positive though

ZonKnoZ said:
^^exactly my thoughts too today
i also must admit that its a bit frustrating to see how many programs have problems with 320*320...
the good thing is that everything i need is available in a version which runs smoothly most of the times(except tomeraider3 which has graphic bugs and the search only works with the softwarekeyboard -.-)
i als might add that the audio skip problem occured to me while using mortplayer as my mp3 player app...
so far im still playing around with this little fella
what caught my attention was that the treo pro uses around 60mA of current while in my typical ebook reader setup(backlight dimmed to the max but stiil on)
this could mean a decent battery runtime but its hard to say after just 3 days
the first impression is rather positive though
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Hummm will have to check out the audio players...I hate to say it but I just don't use that or video players I do like You Tube, but for music and videos I have my Zune.
I am having a problem getting my skyfire reinstalled...am still trying to get the kinks out of that one, and I have sent a request to someone to try and get a couple of themes made for this here new toy...since I am completely helpless with anything graphic. I have some new Dexter wallpapers and want themes made out of them and I got some great Icons for it too..I NEED to get this UL issue resolved so I can get this thing looking good or as the kids would say "I need to pimp out my phone"
EDIT: Here are a couple of screen shots not done yet

GPS Working
So I fired up his baby this morning, to check out the GPS. I use to use an external bluetooth receiver with TomTom on my T-mobile Wing. Usually took at least 2 minutes to get a signal. I turn on the TomTom this morning used other GPS Com4 and it took under a minute to get a signal in my apartment!! Way cool! So now I need to find a reason to go driving and get some use out of this.