According to Htc, and *****ing at their managers for an hour, I came to find out that they are currently working on a rom update for the Tytn II/Kaiser/Tilt to be released before mid febuary
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In my opionion this is way to long!!!
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They also said they cannot release any more details, although the only reason it is taking so long is because that they are trying to fix multiple things not just the video issues and they are trying to put them all into one package instead of having 10 different packages at once.
nice, thanks for the info.
i'll keep an eye out.
any more details, wm 6.1, gpu driver???
yup. do u have more details? or where we can find details about it?
(in my concern, they said me that they will send me an email when new updates are available )
Hey if they said they are working on a new rom update, that is WONDERFUL news!!!!!
Not to sceptical but...
Not to be downplaying the situation...but I will believe when I see it.
If its 6.1 ill crap myself.
If its 6.01* ill tell you all 'I told you so'
*6.01 meaning just a rom update, not an OS update
I believe they will release an updated ROM for the Kaiser, but I don't think it will solve the video driver issue.
HTC seems to ignore anything about this issue, and said they won't fix it.
However, I hope I'm just wrong and they do release a fix!
doubtful..
I dont care if it's 6.0 or 6.1 as long as the significant issues are fixed, like video drivers, laggy touch screen, freezing for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, PIE lag, and crappy camera.
rant
It really sucks that we are holding a powerful phone but cant use its true power, its just like owning a ferrari enzo and not being able to drive above 25mph. Maybe they wont fix it and just release a new phone with everything working and calling it tytn 3 with the same inside but a new case.
Sent a mail to HTC, will see what they will reply as to what the situation is. I hope for video driver fix at all!
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Ahu..We will see..
yaaaay. cant wait.
look forward to upgrade
i hope they put their backs into it.. tired of this video issues...
I called HTC Middle East Support ; and they confirmed that they do not know this issue ? !! and I think they are not understanding what we are talking about !!
Maybe they will do it like Nokia and release a Tytn IIi and let the customer pay for fixing the Tytn II
edit: Oh and did I mention the Tytn IIi will come in a new color? Uh will definately get that one ;-)
(yeah, I'm a former Nokia N95 owner)
seeing is believing.. don't get your hopes up
Well lets just hold thumbs that it might just be 6.1 !
I hope they take care of the #$*@$!!$^@(!!!!! low bluetooth volume.
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this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay
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this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay
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There is no OFFICIAL 6.1 rom. Just test and cooked roms.
oh ok then so why are microsoft advertising this as a release when its an up and coming
it diffenatley says 6.1 has arrived
I think Microsoft are done with the rom but not HTC or the operators.
No official ROM with WM6.1 is released as of this moment.
It depends on your OEM (Orange I guess) whether you will get an official WM6.1 update.
HTC has promised they will release a new ROM based on WM6.1 (and it will include something of a driver or stuff...). But it is intended for original unbranded HTC devices. It will be released later (this month?).
If you would really want WM6.1, the best option is to flash a cooked ROM. Most recent ones are WM6.1 based.
Don't look at Microsoft for ROM upgrades, that's not their duty.
does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters
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does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters
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Correct. MS will NOT release a WM 6.1 ROM for anyone to download and install. Only the phone vendors (HTC, Orange, AT&T) release such ROMS.
The release of WM6.1 by Microsoft was a Release-To-Manufacturer (RTM) event. Ofcourse Microsoft puts this information on their site. It isn't really their intention of teasing you (I presume at least).
I takes some time for the OEMs to finalize a ROM with WM6.1. That's why there is a time interval between the MS announcement and the actual release.
What about UK operators? No idea...
cool so does anyone have the date of the release are is it speculation up until now, all of the websites i am reading say that htc will be releasing the rom mid may
No one really knows. If we did, everyone would have been really happy. HTC had promised a while ago they would be releasing a fix for the graphics problem somewhere near the end of March. It was never released.
Although I have all confidence in HTC and the sites reporting the impending ROM release, we'll never know the exact release date until the ROM is released.
If it's really such a big deal for you, start flashing!
well it does but my major issue is
a) i dont kno how to do it
b) will over write all my data
c) will it take away all my presets and settings
d) will invalidate my warranty
e) i thort microsoft were trying to take all the roms down
and last nite i seen a youtube clip of a person with a windows mobile 6.1 rom on a tytn II is this american
He was probably using a custom ROM...
Regarding your issues:
a) There is really enough info on this site which clearly explanes how to do it. It should be no problem really.
b) It will indeed reset all your settings and data. Some programs are designed to back up some of your data. Pim Backup is an example which backs up your PIM data.
c) see b)
d) It does, but it can be reverted. There is a thread regarding the issue.
e) Than enjoy it while you still can...
like someone said, there are leaked roms on this site, they're not official, but over here, that's plenty official enough for us
most of your questions can be answered by reading the first sticky in the forum, and/or the wiki, which i advise you to do so. once you are done with that, you will understand this rom upgrading process a lot more
imo cooked roms by chefs here at xda r so much better than oem roms so i don't even know why u would want the oem ..
does mean the eventual official rom will delete all the stuff too
im just pissed off coz with the programs ive got running ive got the best setup ive had
i used freestyl but there was too many bugs so now i use ifonz and s2u2
ive got all my cabs backed up tho which is good
my poroblems with my micro sd are worst
bought a 6gb micro sdhc off amazon, which only showed up as 1.69 gb after researching i got theat pnanasonic formatter thingy and then it worked fine, then it just stopped working. ive got a claim in with amazon to get the money back
still dont know wether it was a fake or not
Make no mistake, upgrading any ROM will completly reset your device.
If you would ever start flashing, there are tools which allow automated installations of CABs. In that way, you can get your device up and running in a very short period of time.
Tools that come to mind ar UC (user customization) and the tools provided by XDA-member Bengalih.
Better luck next time with your microSDHC card...
i just hope it get resolved
does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet
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does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet
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if it works once you probably don't have a fake, you may need to reformat the sdhc, also a lot of older roms have issues with sdhc. On your original note, jump in man the cooked roms are great. Google xda pim backup, download pim backup and backup your stuff (or just use activesync), Use Olipro to safeguard your device, and then flash a cooked rom, I recomend Dutty's April 29, read the wiki before you flash, your phone will become so much more useful, give it a try.
I have just upgraded from O2 XDA Orbit 1 to 2 and would like to update the ROM, would like to get some advice before I do...
can I use the WWE 6.1 Update from HTC to update and "de-brand" my phone or do I need to use the O2 version ?
I was using Artemis Touch 3.0.1 Lite (With Mobile 6.1) on my old phone, and i love the look and the functionality of it, I was hoping the Orbit 2 was the same sort of thing but quicker and more stable, from a lot of posts here it seems that isn't the case ? Is there a cooked ROM that is as stable and functional as 3.0.1 Lite or should I stick with the factory ROM ?
What about Tomtom ? Version 6.01 does everything I want, is there any point in going to 7, ie fresher maps or whatever ?
What are peoples recommendations for making sure the jog dial rubber ring stays in place ? Is it worth pulling it off and fixing it on with superglue or gasket silicone or something else ?
Also, should I hang on to my old Orbit for a few weeks - just in case ...
looking forward to spending some more time on XDA-devs..
GF
If i were you i would go definitely to orbit 2, its fast and has every fetaures that you will need day by day.
You can flash cooked rooms to your taste.
About the tomtom, yes its worth upgrading too, the new tomtom7 has more improvements, and the maps are more detailed and more updated. Im going just to warn you , DONT REQUEST NO MAPS in this forum you will get banned.
good point
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If i were you i would go definitely to orbit 2, its fast and has every fetaures that you will need day by day.
You can flash cooked rooms to your taste.
About the tomtom, yes its worth upgrading too, the new tomtom7 has more improvements, and the maps are more detailed and more updated. Im going just to warn you , DONT REQUEST NO MAPS in this forum you will get banned.
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yes warez are no allowed @ this forum
welcome to the forum
Well thanks for the info. I did get my Orbit 2... and surprise surprise the rubber ring ws missing...
And so I started on a painful run of trying to get a nice clean ROM similar to Meschle's Touch ROM on the Orbit. I chose an older ROM, Bepe's (Polaris_WWE_0.67_Standard_bepe) and thought hell, in for a penny, Id upate the Radio at the same time , as trawling through this forum heard good reports about the recent update Polaris_Radio_1.64.08.21 . Well I have now reflashed about 15 times, 3 different ROMs and 5 different Radios, trying to get one which WORKED... I mean it all looked good but either reception was awful or the speaker would buzz horribly, and the speaker would go off altogether. I went through all the radios, then went back to O2's original 6.1 update, and even then something was up with the reception/speaker. I thought that I had been sold a lemon. I thought ah hell lets try one of the recent ROMS, I had happened to download Syrius R4, and fook me, what a piece of work, and I love the Manila, all I can say is congratulations on an amazing ROM. I don't care for clean any more. I will even live with the dodgy looking clock. Because it is like the eye-phone in that it just works, and its all just logical, I love it ! Even text entry is superb with the new QWERTY keyboard. The radio is now at 1.59.42.15, and that seems rock solid, gps fix times are good, TT7 up and running, migrated traffic from old machine, came back here to say thanks udK !!
Oh yeah and after using the phone for 1 day I managed to crack the digitizer , in the top right corner, but it all seems to be working fine, I won't be forking out £60 for the repair till I REALLY need to...
gf
Thank to hear you that everythng it sorted out. its really a magnificent mobile. Do you till got that buzzy sound from the speaker? And that about the digitalizer thats bad, cause its more fragile now, if you have the mobile in your pocket and you apply more pressure u can break the rest of it
I didn't see any news about this here so... It seams like HTC has released an update for the AT&T Fuze. According to the HTC Support site, here's what's included:
Microsoft's Windows Mobile Adaptation Kit Update (AKU) 1.4.6
Slide to Answer
Push To Talk Button is now re-assignable
FM Radio Application
Enhanced MS Voice Command
Call waiting indicator is now audible when using Speakerphone
HTC Music player supports Album art/info
Improved TouchFlo3D (TF3D) and User Interface performance
A-GPS Update: Speeds up the time it takes the GPS to get a fix on your location
Quick GPS is still recommended for the optimal operation of GPS based applications and services
The update can be found here.
But... what does it take to actually download it? I have a 3-month old Fuze in the US, but when I plug in my S/N - it says that it isn't for my Fuze?
gfincher said:
But... what does it take to actually download it? I have a 3-month old Fuze in the US, but when I plug in my S/N - it says that it isn't for my Fuze?
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I have the same issue. Tried it twice. Any ideas?
Same here. I just got through sending HTC an email about it. My fuze is only about 2 weeks old.
Same Problem -
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
The phone is less than a year old and it makes me want to reach for an iPhone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519698
Looks like someone called HTC and was told it would not be up until 12:01 EST. however it is after that now. Guess I will try again after midnight pacific.
enfuziast said:
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
The phone is less than a year old and it makes me want to reach for an iPhone.
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It's obvious you're a closet IPhone lover. Quit denying yourself the pleasure of not having to post here ever again.... Go buy an Iphone... go go go go!
just a question
i jst updated my rom with a rom from this site will this new rom from htc work? and will it return my phone back to the factory settings? cuz this new rom from raphael the fuzeberry is awsome
Still saying not for my device
Oh well, hopefully later today
This is the response I got from HTC.
"Hello Shannon, Thank you for your inquiry about the HTC Fuze. We would be happy to assist you with that information. However, we are experiencing an issue in the download of the update for the Fuze. We are aware of the issues and do apologize for the inconveniences. We are working on getting the issue resolved at the current time. We do ask that you allow 24 hrs and then retry to download the software. If after the 24 hr period you are still experiencing issues in downloading the software then please let us know. Again we do apologize for the inconveniences and appreciate your patience in resolving this issue. Shannon, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions. HTC Technical Support http://www.htc.com http://www.htcwiki.com."
Can't download Official ROM either
I have a FUZE I purchased in February, same issue with not accepting my S/N. I know I will be a candidate for the new ROM so hopefully, the issue as described above from HTC support will prove to be accurate and we can download in a relative short time. I am really excited to try this new Official ROM as I am not comfortable flashing the ROM's that are available otherwise. I just don't have enough technical background to feel like I can do it without the real risk of bricking my FUZE.
HTC Fuze support site is down...
For now, they are probably fixing the issue with the S/N error because the support sub-site for the HTC Fuze is down.
why would you guys want a rom that weve had the updates for months? and 6.5 is already working great for us plus without all the att junk?
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why would you guys want a rom that weve had the updates for months? and 6.5 is already working great for us plus without all the att junk?
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I concur! There really is no reason to downgrade to this rom....
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I concur! There really is no reason to downgrade to this rom....
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It could have some updated drivers and it looks like it has a new radio in it. That's the main benefit of getting this.
I wouldn't downgrade to 6.1, even if it has "new stuff"....won't take the cooks very long to extract any new stuff, and add it to the 6.5 roms
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It could have some updated drivers and it looks like it has a new radio in it. That's the main benefit of getting this.
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I wouldn't downgrade to 6.1, even if it has "new stuff"....won't take the cooks very long to extract any new stuff, and add it to the 6.5 roms
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I agree, that's what I meant by my post...once someone gets their hands on it and can extract the goodies
Well, this ROM is appreciated regardless
I think custom ROMs are sweet, and I am a big fan of 6.5. But, I personally kinda like official releases, despite 6.1 and the AT&T crapware. I'll probably end up installing a 6.5 rom anyway if AT&T doesn't make one, or if AT&T's really sucks. Besides, I am overloaded with MS betas on my PC and phone.
Does anyone know when it will be downloadable again? The link seems to be down again or is there another place to find it?
If this allows the MS voice command to say the name of the caller, then I'm all for this update.
Hello *********************,
I can understand how important it is to know if you will have a Windows Mobile 6.5 update available for your Ozone on October 6, 2009. I will be more than happy to assist you with the information that you are requesting. Unfortunately, there will not be a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade for the Ozone on October 6, 2009. Currently, I have no information indicating that Verizon has requested a ROM update be made for the Ozone. If Verizon requests that HTC make a ROM upgrade for the Ozone, HTC will begin developing a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade. Verizon will work in cooperation with us to develop the ROM upgrade for the Ozone. This process can take a couple of weeks to several months.
Thank you so much for contacting HTC. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again. You can find additional support at our user forum www.htcwiki.com. There is also a customer satisfaction survey for you to take if you are interested.
Steve
HTC Tech Support
http://www.htc.com
Microsoft is showing that it will
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm65-upgrade.mspx
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well i dont know which to believe, that letter was a response from HTC's support to my question asking if it would be available for the ozone.
In the end its up to Verizon
If we break it down Microsoft and HTC are saying it is completely possible to do a 6.5 upgrade but it'll be up to Verizon to make it happen.
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If we break it down Microsoft and HTC are saying it is completely possible to do a 6.5 upgrade but it'll be up to Verizon to make it happen.
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Read this PC magazine article. I guess WM 6.5 will not come to the Ozone until "early november".
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353789,00.asp
-Tomi
d8tahead said:
Hello *********************,
I can understand how important it is to know if you will have a Windows Mobile 6.5 update available for your Ozone on October 6, 2009. I will be more than happy to assist you with the information that you are requesting. Unfortunately, there will not be a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade for the Ozone on October 6, 2009. Currently, I have no information indicating that Verizon has requested a ROM update be made for the Ozone. If Verizon requests that HTC make a ROM upgrade for the Ozone, HTC will begin developing a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade. Verizon will work in cooperation with us to develop the ROM upgrade for the Ozone. This process can take a couple of weeks to several months.
Thank you so much for contacting HTC. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us again. You can find additional support at our user forum www.htcwiki.com. There is also a customer satisfaction survey for you to take if you are interested.
Steve
HTC Tech Support
http://www.htc.com
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I had actually got the same reply from my inside HTC Guy a month or so back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4347515&postcount=9
I still don't feel that the Sprint Snap will be getting an offical upgrade, but if Microsoft says so... haha i don't trust them anymore than i can toss my own mother.
well, I guess there are prerelease ozone roms floating out there that Verizon is making, but thus far nobody was willing to share them - considering that Verizon could fire the person. I hope that somehow one will be leaked either on torrents or something, as my ozone has been bricked for a month now and the USB port on my q9m just broke. So I have no way of charging it
I work for VZW.
There WILL be an official 6.5 ROM for it.
There is a very buggy pre-realease available internally now.
I have used it (no - I can't send it to you - don't ask) and switched back to 6.1
That is how buggy it was.
No ETA on a new build.
I check my internal sources everyday for updates.
Just as frustrated as all of you.
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I work for VZW.
There WILL be an official 6.5 ROM for it.
There is a very buggy pre-realease available internally now.
I have used it (no - I can't send it to you - don't ask) and switched back to 6.1
That is how buggy it was.
No ETA on a new build.
I check my internal sources everyday for updates.
Just as frustrated as all of you.
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well i appreciate the information, atleast we know us ozone users will be getting the well deserved update
thanks brent
Anyway you can provide the stock flashable 6.1 rom for the ozone?
Brent,
Can you tell VZW not to put so much crapware in their ROMs?
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Brent,
Can you tell VZW not to put so much crapware in their ROMs?
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I second that motion.
brent372 said:
I work for VZW.
There WILL be an official 6.5 ROM for it.
There is a very buggy pre-realease available internally now.
I have used it (no - I can't send it to you - don't ask) and switched back to 6.1
That is how buggy it was.
No ETA on a new build.
I check my internal sources everyday for updates.
Just as frustrated as all of you.
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Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to the new rom.
I'm happy Verizon is willing to update the pre-6.5 released phones at all.
Be well Brent.
Can anyone verify this HTC Captain aka snap, maple, ozone rom?
RUU_Captain_S_HTC_WWE_2.03.405.2
http://htcpedia.com/ruu_captain_s_htc_wwe_wm65/soft/snap-rom.html?page=1
I think Ozone users are looking for this: RUU_Chief_W_WM65_VZW_WWE_2.16.605.15, that's the official WM6.5 upgrade for the Ozone, I will upload it.
edit: http://rapidshare.com/files/3253201...05.15_RS_612522_1.71.08WV_1.94_58005_Ship.exe
udK said:
I think Ozone users are looking for this: RUU_Chief_W_WM65_VZW_WWE_2.16.605.15, that's the official WM6.5 upgrade for the Ozone, I will upload it.
edit: http://rapidshare.com/files/3253201...05.15_RS_612522_1.71.08WV_1.94_58005_Ship.exe
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happen to have the RUU_Commander for the Sprint SNAP S511?
Report on the VZW ROM above...
Hey Folks,
Coming over to Win Mobile from the Blackberry side and just picked up my Ozone a couple of weeks ago. I always had luck flashing my Berries with leaked ROMS so I figured I'd give it a whirl here too
Keep in mind that I am not the power user that most of you guys are!
The flashing process itself was pretty quick and painless. No bumps along the way there - I just followed the instructions of the installer.
Speed is pretty good so far although it seems to be a hair more laggy than 6.1. It has not been detrimental to using it so far though.
Stability seems really good. I think that VZW is coming down to the final version of the 6.5 upgrade and this release shows it.
Program compatibility - Internet Explorer's viewability is messed up and has been useless to me since the upgrade. I have been using Skyfire instead for my default browser. (BTW, IE does have an Active X toggle in its menus - I have tried it on and off but didn't see a difference). Also, Calendar 2 from SBSH has problems with repeating dates on 6.5 for some reason. I have seen no other issues beyond those 2 programs.
Changes? Honesty, I don't see much so far...It says 3g instead of EVDO on the network indiactor icon, there is a basic customize homescreen program included, there is a MS App store download icon included.
Bottom line: I'll continue to use this ROM (well I am kind of forced too since I don't have a stock 6.1 to revert to LOL) until the officall release (and again, I think they are getting pretty close). However, those of you with 6.1 don't feel like you are missing out on anything but NOT trying this one out...I really don't see that many improvements at all. I am kind of underwhelmed actually.
Hope this is a help!
Been waiting for that above VZW Rom For 2 Months!!!
I can verify that the above Rom upgraded to WM6.5 for Verizon. Fixed my rainbow colored Ozone with bad SPL flash!!! YAY! Please sticky this thread as the Ozone finally has a signed ROM!!!!
udK said:
I think Ozone users are looking for this: RUU_Chief_W_WM65_VZW_WWE_2.16.605.15, that's the official WM6.5 upgrade for the Ozone, I will upload it.
edit: http://rapidshare.com/files/3253201...05.15_RS_612522_1.71.08WV_1.94_58005_Ship.exe
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Thanks, very cool. Going to flash as soon as my battery charges ;-)
Hate to be picky, but can you upload it to another site (mediafire, megaupload, etc.) as rapidshare is "overwhelmed" and I can't get the file. If not, no biggy.
Just upgraded to this rom. Been having an issue where the phone likes to go from programs to the home screen a lot. Happens across all programs. An example is loading up skyfire once the loading bar gets to about 100% the phone goes to the home screen. The programs don't fail or anything, but it's a really annoying problem. Anyone else having this issue?
Folks,
There's been no word, no dates given or leaked about the ICS update we're supposed to be receiving. Samsung has said we're supposed to get the update, but T-Mobile has been quiet. Hell, Samsung just announced that the GS2 will be getting JB and they've been working on it. I don't know how well that translates to the T-Mobile variant of the GS2, but it's still something. All we need is a kernel and some camera drivers. Hell, we could probably get away without the camera drivers and mangle the old ones using a compatibility HAL..
It is starting to feel like T-Mobile is simply going to forget the blaze. I mean, they released an update already, why would they hurry on to the next update...
I think if we're going to get something for nothing, we'll have to make noise about it. Same way we got this forum. I think it's going to take bugging t-mobile on the forums and on their support lines. You people on contract have it worse. You bought a really powerful phone in the presence of ICS, some of you after the promise that it would receive the update. T-Mobile wouldn't suffer penalties if they didn't push it, but I imagine they'll respond to some social pressure enough not to simply forget the update.
Hell, it'd be nice if we could even just get a date.
I agree with you. At this point I'd be happy with some sort of update from Samsung/T-Mobile. Even if they just said "we're still working on it" and gave no ETA at least we'd know they hadn't forgotten about it.
If the Blaze Q whatever the hell they've decided to call it launches here in a few weeks with ICS and we still don't get the software I will be ticked.
If push comes to shove and they don't release it can the devs port it or JB from another galaxy phone?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understating is that it can but would take a lot of work and all are holding off since ICS is supposed to be dropping at anytime. No sense in going thru all that work only to have an official release dropped on us.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze.
Lol bugging xda mods for a forum is NOT the same a bugging T-Mobile for eta.
Sent from my SGH-T769 using xda app-developers app
dr4stic said:
Folks,
There's been no word, no dates given or leaked about the ICS update we're supposed to be receiving. Samsung has said we're supposed to get the update, but T-Mobile has been quiet. Hell, Samsung just announced that the GS2 will be getting JB and they've been working on it. I don't know how well that translates to the T-Mobile variant of the GS2, but it's still something. All we need is a kernel and some camera drivers. Hell, we could probably get away without the camera drivers and mangle the old ones using a compatibility HAL..
It is starting to feel like T-Mobile is simply going to forget the blaze. I mean, they released an update already, why would they hurry on to the next update...
I think if we're going to get something for nothing, we'll have to make noise about it. Same way we got this forum. I think it's going to take bugging t-mobile on the forums and on their support lines. You people on contract have it worse. You bought a really powerful phone in the presence of ICS, some of you after the promise that it would receive the update. T-Mobile wouldn't suffer penalties if they didn't push it, but I imagine they'll respond to some social pressure enough not to simply forget the update.
Hell, it'd be nice if we could even just get a date.
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I completely agree with you. To be honest, I am already pissed off that they still havent released it. When I got this phone, T-Mobile promised I was going to get an ICS update in July. Yeah, so much for that. At the very least they could acknowledge our presence and let us know that they havent forgotten about us
Chitown021 said:
If push comes to shove and they don't release it can the devs port it or JB from another galaxy phone?
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understating is that it can but would take a lot of work and all are holding off since ICS is supposed to be dropping at anytime. No sense in going thru all that work only to have an official release dropped on us.
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The problem is the kernel and libraries specific to our hardware. We have to have a working kernel and libraries before the rest of the rom can come.
I'm not sure why people thought the Blaze Q would've been a good thing for us because unless the hardware was identically similar (which no one had any proof that it was), the releases for that phone would've been useless for ours. The fact that it's now coming with a 720p display (I would've stayed with my Blaze 4G if it had that), and a keyboard tells me that there will be PLENTY different between the phones.
Hardware-wise, the T769 (Blaze) is EXTREMELY similar to the T989 (T-Mo SGS2). How similar you ask? In the original kernel configuration file for the T769, the options are set to build it as a T769 AND T989. There are a few ifdefs that exist purely to stop little snippets of the T989 code from taking effect.
I worked on my own time to try and hack together a kernel from the released sources for the T989 for ICS. Porting specific code from the T769 sources to try to come up with something that worked. Here's the problem: it was stressful and thankless, and at the end of it all I had a kernel that would compile and not boot. No one collected anything to help me attempt this and I was getting tired of having a non-functioning phone that pissed me off. So I ordered me a Galaxy Nexus. I received 2 in a row with screen issues and ended up returning them. I figured I would return to my efforts with the blaze, but at that point I was used to the big phone with a beautiful 720p resolution... so I shelled out the money for a GS3.
I have thought of returning and making a second attempt to port the kernel, and have actually started setting up to do just that. I think I made some mistakes my first time around, so the second time might actually work. But it is A PAIN.
chjema said:
Lol bugging xda mods for a forum is NOT the same a bugging T-Mobile for eta.
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You're right, it isn't... but it's the last time I saw this community bug an outside source for something, aside from buying a couple of guys a phone
Yeah, a 720p screen would have been nice... thanks for the detailed explanation.
I still find it comical that my old HD2 is on the verge of having a fully functional JB rom but my brand new Blaze is still stuck on GB.
Honestly if I could've afforded it I would have probably gone the Nexus or S3 route but given my limited funds and needing to cover two phones (wife needed an upgrade) I thought this was the best value ($30 upgrade cost at Target).
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze.
Yes lets please do this.
T-Mobile hasn't updated their page for a month now, and that was for the Gingerbread update they released when they could have been making headway on ICS. I can't find out how to submit any new pages, but I can see two requests for an update that were a couple months old (click on the link, then read on the right side in section "Incoming Links") source = http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4182
I went to Samsung's page about ICS updates, and rated it "very dissatisfied," informing them they should have supplied target Year and Quarter (i.e. 2012 Q3) at the minimum, but preferably a specific month. source = http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
Let's continue to put pressure on these assholes, or they will sweep us under the bus while they pursue development of the Samsung Galaxy Supernova 4G Touchwiz Xtra 4.1.
Not to be a **** ... but what's the rush? What's wrong with the software on your phone now? I've had this Blaze for a couple months and I don't think I ever had a problem. I have ICS on a tablet and like it, but I never felt like I needed to light the torches and march on the castle because I didn't have the latest **** on my phone.
And honestly, if a delay of an update for a great phone that works perfectly fine is what keeps you up at night, just wow...
If I am missing something critical here that I should know about (phone will explode without ICS ROM installed, I have a higher risk of cancer if I don't have ICS on phone, etc) please let me know immediately. I have poster boards, Sharpies, and a willingness to assemble if needed.
Dr4stic
If you need want help, testing, anything.let me know of beer more than happy to help.. we need to get ics to this phone
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heavenlydemonic said:
Not to be a **** ... but what's the rush? What's wrong with the software on your phone now? I've had this Blaze for a couple months and I don't think I ever had a problem. I have ICS on a tablet and like it, but I never felt like I needed to light the torches and march on the castle because I didn't have the latest **** on my phone.
And honestly, if a delay of an update for a great phone that works perfectly fine is what keeps you up at night, just wow...
If I am missing something critical here that I should know about (phone will explode without ICS ROM installed, I have a higher risk of cancer if I don't have ICS on phone, etc) please let me know immediately. I have poster boards, Sharpies, and a willingness to assemble if needed.
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Nope, just a league of people whining because that makes things happen faster. There really is nothing more to it.
I'll be the first to admit I've become a bit jaded because of my experiences with T-Mobile / Samsung and the Samsung Vibrant.
I heard promises about updates to that phone - they even set dates and pushed them back and back and back and finally... nothing.
If anything I think the release of the Blaze Q is a strike against us because our phones are now the "out dated" version of the Blaze and why put development hours into an "old" device.
I'm happy that I have a fully functional phone as it is now (the Vibrant never really had a fully working GPS). An update would be nice but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it because honestly, you may just be setting yourself up for a lot of sleepless nights.
Oh, and on the Vibrant Forum they started a twitter campaign #NeverAgain demanding the promised upgrade or they would never use T-mobile or Samsung again. No one listened.
I know this all sounds cynical but I've seen this show before.
Edit to add: If memory serves correctly this was also the case with the Behold on T-mobile.
Hey i know im new here, but i was wondering if you guys have only attempted to port ics roms from the SII? Ive tried to do the same and only recieved a glittery sparkly screen. I was wondering if anyone tried other devices with similar hardware like the HTC amaze 4g. I tried to port that one and actually got the boot animation to pop up. I havent tried to do any logcats or anything because i have been to busy and i need my phone for work, but if anyone else has tried to port from other devices i would like to know so i can know where to start if i do decide to try again.
L7ChrisL7 said:
Hey i know im new here, but i was wondering if you guys have only attempted to port ics roms from the SII? Ive tried to do the same and only recieved a glittery sparkly screen. I was wondering if anyone tried other devices with similar hardware like the HTC amaze 4g. I tried to port that one and actually got the boot animation to pop up. I havent tried to do any logcats or anything because i have been to busy and i need my phone for work, but if anyone else has tried to port from other devices i would like to know so i can know where to start if i do decide to try again.
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The reason you get a glittery screen when coming from roms that are like the SGS2 is because they use different display panel hardware than we do. I'd be careful porting things from different manufacturers unless you really know what you're doing. You'd hate to go and format some partitions you can't get back
heavenlydemonic said:
Not to be a **** ... but what's the rush? What's wrong with the software on your phone now? I've had this Blaze for a couple months and I don't think I ever had a problem.
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What happens when more "cool new apps" are released to the market that require Android 4.0 API's or better? Chrome immediately comes to mind, and there are others with many more on the way. What happens 4 months from now when you are only 6 months into your 2 year contract and you're wondering why you can't realistically run things on your phone that has 1 gig of ram and a dual-core 1.5ghz cpu?
And honestly, btw... I had a myTouch 4G running CM7 that felt miles faster than my blaze. The samsung crapware is not only bloated, but breaks the system in a number of places. You can see this in the fact that you can't have a scrollable wallpaper, or that the system doesn't understand all the loop points in ringtones that work properly in other phones. I can't tell you how frustrated I get by an unlock and/or answer mechanism that can't track my fingers in real time like something as simple as CM7 does.
And don't get me started on the underutilisation of the video hardware.
AwesomeTurtle said:
Nope, just a league of people whining because that makes things happen faster. There really is nothing more to it.
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No, this phone was released with a promise. When it was released, ICS had been out for 6 months or more, and I'm sure the OEMs had access to the system and API's well before the official release. By the time ICS is released for our phones (IF it is released for our phones), JB will have been out for several months.
This is a matter of support and broken promises. I am NOT just whining. I was sold a phone with a promise of ICS and it has NOT been delivered, and at this point the time has gone beyond reasonable.
If we don't make noise now, it WILL be forgotten and you're going to end up with a phone outdated well before it's time.
dr4stic said:
The reason you get a glittery screen when coming from roms that are like the SGS2 is because they use different display panel hardware than we do. I'd be careful porting things from different manufacturers unless you really know what you're doing. You'd hate to go and format some partitions you can't get back
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Yeah the first time i tried to flash the rom nothing happened. ahah but then i went into the updater script changed some things and got it to flash. but since the hard ware is the same do you think i could use the display drivers from the amaze 4g and replace them in the SII rom and maybe it will work? well maybe i will have to do some logcats to see why the amaze rom isnt booting.
L7ChrisL7 said:
Yeah the first time i tried to flash the rom nothing happened. ahah but then i went into the updater script changed some things and got it to flash. but since the hard ware is the same do you think i could use the display drivers from the amaze 4g and replace them in the SII rom and maybe it will work? well maybe i will have to do some logcats to see why the amaze rom isnt booting.
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I doubt it. The drivers are baked into the kernel, they aren't modules or libraries. You'd have to get another compiled kernel working for our device, and you'll undoubtedly lose other drivers (camera, wifi come to mind). It's, of course, up to you to brick your own phone
dr4stic said:
I doubt it. The drivers are baked into the kernel, they aren't modules or libraries. You'd have to get another compiled kernel working for our device, and you'll undoubtedly lose other drivers (camera, wifi come to mind). It's, of course, up to you to brick your own phone
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Well cant you decompile a kernel? or maybe if i get the source of both devices i can use the code to compile a new kernel... hmmm all stuff to try. but compiling a kernel takes a while i think ill update my PC first haha. Im not necessarily worried about the other drivers not working, i just want to make progress, or at least help us make a push in the right direction. Im sorry if im being too optimistic or noobish, i just want to learn what people have and havent tried, so i dont waste my time on what has already been done.
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/blaze_4g?view=discussions
^--Post a thread in the T-mobile discussion forums! The most recent thread so far is asking for a status update, and if you guys can make more posts/threads about it, maybe we'll get a response from someone
here's a thread we can vent at!
spartanerik said:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/blaze_4g?view=discussions
^--Post a thread in the T-mobile discussion forums! The most recent thread so far is asking for a status update, and if you guys can make more posts/threads about it, maybe we'll get a response from someone
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I already did - rather I saw a post and have decided to bump it daily so it remains at the top.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/31124?tstart=0
Create a support account and let's let them know they need to get this done!!!
Every post on the support forum discussing the ICS update will get a post (and bump) from me everyday!
anactoraaron said:
I already did - rather I saw a post and have decided to bump it daily so it remains at the top.
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/31124?tstart=0
Create a support account and let's let them know they need to get this done!!!
Every post on the support forum discussing the ICS update will get a post (and bump) from me everyday!
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http://support.t-mobile.com/people/tmo_erica
Try sending an email to [email protected] and ask (nicely) about a status update on the ICS update for our phone! I just sent one, and hopefully if we send enough we can get some traction