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Just got off the phone with HTC!!!!!

According to Htc, and *****ing at their managers for an hour, I came to find out that they are currently working on a rom update for the Tytn II/Kaiser/Tilt to be released before mid febuary
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In my opionion this is way to long!!!
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They also said they cannot release any more details, although the only reason it is taking so long is because that they are trying to fix multiple things not just the video issues and they are trying to put them all into one package instead of having 10 different packages at once.

nice, thanks for the info.
i'll keep an eye out.

any more details, wm 6.1, gpu driver???

yup. do u have more details? or where we can find details about it?
(in my concern, they said me that they will send me an email when new updates are available )

Hey if they said they are working on a new rom update, that is WONDERFUL news!!!!!

Not to sceptical but...
Not to be downplaying the situation...but I will believe when I see it.

If its 6.1 ill crap myself.
If its 6.01* ill tell you all 'I told you so'
*6.01 meaning just a rom update, not an OS update

I believe they will release an updated ROM for the Kaiser, but I don't think it will solve the video driver issue.
HTC seems to ignore anything about this issue, and said they won't fix it.
However, I hope I'm just wrong and they do release a fix!

doubtful..

I dont care if it's 6.0 or 6.1 as long as the significant issues are fixed, like video drivers, laggy touch screen, freezing for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, PIE lag, and crappy camera.

rant
It really sucks that we are holding a powerful phone but cant use its true power, its just like owning a ferrari enzo and not being able to drive above 25mph. Maybe they wont fix it and just release a new phone with everything working and calling it tytn 3 with the same inside but a new case.

Sent a mail to HTC, will see what they will reply as to what the situation is. I hope for video driver fix at all!

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Ahu..We will see..

yaaaay. cant wait.

look forward to upgrade
i hope they put their backs into it.. tired of this video issues...

I called HTC Middle East Support ; and they confirmed that they do not know this issue ? !! and I think they are not understanding what we are talking about !!

Maybe they will do it like Nokia and release a Tytn IIi and let the customer pay for fixing the Tytn II
edit: Oh and did I mention the Tytn IIi will come in a new color? Uh will definately get that one ;-)
(yeah, I'm a former Nokia N95 owner)

seeing is believing.. don't get your hopes up

Well lets just hold thumbs that it might just be 6.1 !

I hope they take care of the #$*@$!!$^@(!!!!! low bluetooth volume.

dont be mean but...

this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay

jayjay8585 said:
this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay
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There is no OFFICIAL 6.1 rom. Just test and cooked roms.

oh ok then so why are microsoft advertising this as a release when its an up and coming
it diffenatley says 6.1 has arrived

I think Microsoft are done with the rom but not HTC or the operators.

No official ROM with WM6.1 is released as of this moment.
It depends on your OEM (Orange I guess) whether you will get an official WM6.1 update.
HTC has promised they will release a new ROM based on WM6.1 (and it will include something of a driver or stuff...). But it is intended for original unbranded HTC devices. It will be released later (this month?).
If you would really want WM6.1, the best option is to flash a cooked ROM. Most recent ones are WM6.1 based.
Don't look at Microsoft for ROM upgrades, that's not their duty.

does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters

jayjay8585 said:
does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters
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Correct. MS will NOT release a WM 6.1 ROM for anyone to download and install. Only the phone vendors (HTC, Orange, AT&T) release such ROMS.

The release of WM6.1 by Microsoft was a Release-To-Manufacturer (RTM) event. Ofcourse Microsoft puts this information on their site. It isn't really their intention of teasing you (I presume at least).
I takes some time for the OEMs to finalize a ROM with WM6.1. That's why there is a time interval between the MS announcement and the actual release.
What about UK operators? No idea...

cool so does anyone have the date of the release are is it speculation up until now, all of the websites i am reading say that htc will be releasing the rom mid may

No one really knows. If we did, everyone would have been really happy. HTC had promised a while ago they would be releasing a fix for the graphics problem somewhere near the end of March. It was never released.
Although I have all confidence in HTC and the sites reporting the impending ROM release, we'll never know the exact release date until the ROM is released.
If it's really such a big deal for you, start flashing!

well it does but my major issue is
a) i dont kno how to do it
b) will over write all my data
c) will it take away all my presets and settings
d) will invalidate my warranty
e) i thort microsoft were trying to take all the roms down

and last nite i seen a youtube clip of a person with a windows mobile 6.1 rom on a tytn II is this american

He was probably using a custom ROM...
Regarding your issues:
a) There is really enough info on this site which clearly explanes how to do it. It should be no problem really.
b) It will indeed reset all your settings and data. Some programs are designed to back up some of your data. Pim Backup is an example which backs up your PIM data.
c) see b)
d) It does, but it can be reverted. There is a thread regarding the issue.
e) Than enjoy it while you still can...

like someone said, there are leaked roms on this site, they're not official, but over here, that's plenty official enough for us
most of your questions can be answered by reading the first sticky in the forum, and/or the wiki, which i advise you to do so. once you are done with that, you will understand this rom upgrading process a lot more

imo cooked roms by chefs here at xda r so much better than oem roms so i don't even know why u would want the oem ..

does mean the eventual official rom will delete all the stuff too
im just pissed off coz with the programs ive got running ive got the best setup ive had
i used freestyl but there was too many bugs so now i use ifonz and s2u2
ive got all my cabs backed up tho which is good
my poroblems with my micro sd are worst
bought a 6gb micro sdhc off amazon, which only showed up as 1.69 gb after researching i got theat pnanasonic formatter thingy and then it worked fine, then it just stopped working. ive got a claim in with amazon to get the money back
still dont know wether it was a fake or not

Make no mistake, upgrading any ROM will completly reset your device.
If you would ever start flashing, there are tools which allow automated installations of CABs. In that way, you can get your device up and running in a very short period of time.
Tools that come to mind ar UC (user customization) and the tools provided by XDA-member Bengalih.
Better luck next time with your microSDHC card...

i just hope it get resolved

does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet

jayjay8585 said:
does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet
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if it works once you probably don't have a fake, you may need to reformat the sdhc, also a lot of older roms have issues with sdhc. On your original note, jump in man the cooked roms are great. Google xda pim backup, download pim backup and backup your stuff (or just use activesync), Use Olipro to safeguard your device, and then flash a cooked rom, I recomend Dutty's April 29, read the wiki before you flash, your phone will become so much more useful, give it a try.

O2 XDA Orbit 2 UK ROM Released

Have a look at www.my-xda.com and you can find WM 6.1 for the O2 UK Orbit 2
Woo! Time to have a play!

craiglay said:
Have a look at www.my-xda.com and you can find WM 6.1 for the O2 UK Orbit 2
Woo! Time to have a play!
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Hy!!
I cant Download this software "Invalid S/N".
I have a HTC TOUCH CRUISE device .(Is it know as XDA Orbit 2 ?)
thanks!

Woo at last i thought that this would be much longer after the release from htc but im not complaining!!
Also for you go to the HTC site to get the update or look for the officail HTC 6.1 ROM thread beneath this one

chris10230 said:
Woo at last i thought that this would be much longer after the release from htc but im not complaining!!
Also for you go to the HTC site to get the update or look for the officail HTC 6.1 ROM thread beneath this one
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HTC Oficiall Rom SUK'S

Awesome, I am going to try it today.

staneboy2003 said:
Hy!!
I cant Download this software "Invalid S/N".
I have a HTC TOUCH CRUISE device .(Is it know as XDA Orbit 2 ?)
thanks!
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I guess if you have a Touch Cruise, and not a UK O2 branded XDA you'll have to go to the HTC site

That is correct, the HTC branded devices have different firmware to the o2 branded devices. You can obtain that from the HTC website.

here is direct link
http://dl.htc.com/downloadfiles/Rom....0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe
have a good time!!!

Orbit 2 WM6.1 ROM
Loaded it today!
A couple of nice tweaks but I still feel the os needs a major revamp which will hopefully come with WM7.0.
I'm not a big stylus user and a couple of things really bug me, especially the silly little 'x' to close windows in the top right of the screen.
Whenever I'm in the Comms Manager and want to close the thing I seem to keep turning on 'airplane mode' rather than hitting the 'x' button because they're so close to each other!
I still think the device is the best out there though.

just wondering if anyone else has found this problem at som points my orbit will freeze and then start reacting like 10 seconds later.
This is the only problem i have yet to find/annoy me with the rom so far so quite happy, even more happy by the speed increase over the original rom

Hi, i downloaded the rom update, from O2 was wondering if gps and tomtom work fine still, and also with igo 8, i dont wanna flash it and find my gps wont work, thanks peeps.

I have updated to 6.1 and all appears OK, in fact I havn't noticed any major diffirence. For info I have both TomTom and CoPilot working OK.
I am no expert on this ROM upgrading lark, but it took me hours to get my Orbit back to its previous state with the installation and configuration of various apps.
Do those brave guys who are constantly changing their ROMS have to go through hours of re-configuration each time or is there an easy way??
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is that with your internal gps, i have not got a clue myself about this stuff, you dont unplug anything while its doing it do you.

Battery life seems much improved. Also, the QuickGPS util works very well and a lock can be had in seconds rather than minutes.
One funny - my Direct Push email would not work correctly after the initial upgrade. I could download all my content but the device refused to stay in sync requiring a send/receive to empty the Outbox. No amount of deleting/recreating the Exchange partnership helped. In the end I chose "Clear Storage" and did it all again from scratch. That did the trick....

From my other thread in the sub forum...
Hello!
I'm trying to upgrade my orbit 2 from wm6 to 6.1 using the official patch on the 02 website. When I enter in my serial number I get the download link with some instructions.
One such instruction is...
"Please note that if you already have CoPilot satellite navigation software on your Xda, read this installation manual (links to PDF) before upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.1"
The PDF talks about upgrading from wm5 to wm6 with co pilot 6 installed. Now im upgrading from 6 to 6.1 with copilot 7 installed
Do I still need to follow the guide? or can I just install the upgrade without touching the copilot 7?
I dont want to lose the use of the co pilot software by not deactivating it prior to the upgrade.
I tried calling o2 but they were useless.
Cheers

just reactivate it as you did the first time round @orbit2user123z

Windows 6.1 for O2 Xda Orbit 2 - and the features are?
Now this upgrade is available what do we O2 users get in terms of features? The HTC version on their site details some minot tweaks but not enough to want me to install the upgrade, can anyone give us a definite list of features in O2's new ROM?

I've got it all working now - cheers Madheadwil

Before i found this thread i thought my Orbit 2 was faulty, i could not get any roms to install onto my device but now YESSS!, thank you

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can anyone give us a definite list of features in O2's new ROM?
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That would be really helpful. I don't want to waste a couple of evenings reinstalling and reconfiguring all my applications if 6.1 doesn't do a lot more than 6.0 (or the things which have changed are things which I wouldn't use). Anybody know?

Should I trade in my Fuze for a Bold?

I'm deciding whether or not to trade in my Fuze for a Bold.
The Fuze is nice, but I don't know if I can stand Windows Mobile anymore.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

well gotta give it to a Bold that it's design is timeless
and last for a long time and can handle some absuse

Can't stand Windows Mobile? Are you using a stock AT&T ROM? If so, that's your problem.

Thats funny I had the Bold 2 days before release and couldn't wait for the Fuze to be released so I could trade it in for a Fuze. Honestly the new crackberry is nice and all don't get me wrong but the Fuze and WM is so much more flexable, not the stock ROM mind you. First thing I did was Hard-SPL and get a cooked ROM. If your running around with AT&T's stock ROM your doing it wrong, completely wrong.

Im due for an upgrade and im on the fence between the bold and the fuze , i currently have a tilt and curve

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Thats funny I had the Bold 2 days before release and couldn't wait for the Fuze to be released so I could trade it in for a Fuze. Honestly the new crackberry is nice and all don't get me wrong but the Fuze and WM is so much more flexable, not the stock ROM mind you. First thing I did was Hard-SPL and get a cooked ROM. If your running around with AT&T's stock ROM your doing it wrong, completely wrong.
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I agree with you, but I think there's a good point to be made here: it shouldn't be that way. You shouldn't *need* to hack your device for it to be usable.

like i tell all the customers in my store.
if you email alot, get blackberry.
if you do everything get htc.

jasongw said:
I agree with you, but I think there's a good point to be made here: it shouldn't be that way. You shouldn't *need* to hack your device for it to be usable.
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I have the Fuze now and used to have the bold when it came out for testing and as far as usable they both are usable from the start. The difference between the two is that with Windows Mobile you can enhance the phone and taylor it to your liking by changing the rom, adding cabs, modifying the OS etc...but with the bold and blackberry in general there is only so much you can do. I do however think that it is the best blackberry yet (have not used the Storm yet) and if you seek flexibility WM is your best bet.

Thanks everyone.
I actually used RomeOS for a while, but i reverted back to the stock ATT rom just in case I decide to get the bold. I have several weeks before my month is up, maybe i'll wait and see. My only gripe is that the phone menu is a bit sluggish. Is this b/c of TF3D or WinMobile itself?

attnoob said:
like i tell all the customers in my store.
if you email alot, get blackberry.
if you do everything get htc.
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+1
so true

I wondered the same thing. I ended up getting and keeping both though. I send and receive a lot of emails daily but I also do the other stuff. They complement each other nicely but what drove me to testing and eventually owning a Blackberry was that I became obsessive with tweaking, customizing, and installing things on my Touch Pro. I would spend HOURS each day on here searching and installing until I made the phone unstable. Hard reset and was back at it again. So the Blackberry was my way of saving my from myself, especially since it is on a platform that I'm not very familiar with. But both are great phones. The best way to decide would probably be to try them both out if at all possible.

i think Dieter Bohn from WMexperts states it best. He temporarily swapped his Fuze for a bold from the guys at crackberry.com and he says something along the lines that while using the bold he finds he constantly has to adapt himself to the BB os which is opposite to WM experience where you adapt it to your needs.
and to enrique999, i was under the exact same circumstances, always late to dinners or parties because i had to update an app, or customize it just to how i wanted the device after a hard reset or rom upgrade.. i was gonna get the bold but it took to long to come out so i got an e71. Now i use my WM device during the week, and e71 during the weekend

New HTC Fuze Official ROM Released

I didn't see any news about this here so... It seams like HTC has released an update for the AT&T Fuze. According to the HTC Support site, here's what's included:
Microsoft's Windows Mobile Adaptation Kit Update (AKU) 1.4.6
Slide to Answer
Push To Talk Button is now re-assignable
FM Radio Application
Enhanced MS Voice Command
Call waiting indicator is now audible when using Speakerphone
HTC Music player supports Album art/info
Improved TouchFlo3D (TF3D) and User Interface performance
A-GPS Update: Speeds up the time it takes the GPS to get a fix on your location
Quick GPS is still recommended for the optimal operation of GPS based applications and services
The update can be found here.

But... what does it take to actually download it? I have a 3-month old Fuze in the US, but when I plug in my S/N - it says that it isn't for my Fuze?

gfincher said:
But... what does it take to actually download it? I have a 3-month old Fuze in the US, but when I plug in my S/N - it says that it isn't for my Fuze?
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I have the same issue. Tried it twice. Any ideas?

Same here. I just got through sending HTC an email about it. My fuze is only about 2 weeks old.

Same Problem -
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
The phone is less than a year old and it makes me want to reach for an iPhone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519698
Looks like someone called HTC and was told it would not be up until 12:01 EST. however it is after that now. Guess I will try again after midnight pacific.

enfuziast said:
"Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device."
The phone is less than a year old and it makes me want to reach for an iPhone.
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It's obvious you're a closet IPhone lover. Quit denying yourself the pleasure of not having to post here ever again.... Go buy an Iphone... go go go go!

just a question
i jst updated my rom with a rom from this site will this new rom from htc work? and will it return my phone back to the factory settings? cuz this new rom from raphael the fuzeberry is awsome

Still saying not for my device
Oh well, hopefully later today

This is the response I got from HTC.
"Hello Shannon, Thank you for your inquiry about the HTC Fuze. We would be happy to assist you with that information. However, we are experiencing an issue in the download of the update for the Fuze. We are aware of the issues and do apologize for the inconveniences. We are working on getting the issue resolved at the current time. We do ask that you allow 24 hrs and then retry to download the software. If after the 24 hr period you are still experiencing issues in downloading the software then please let us know. Again we do apologize for the inconveniences and appreciate your patience in resolving this issue. Shannon, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions. HTC Technical Support http://www.htc.com http://www.htcwiki.com."

Can't download Official ROM either
I have a FUZE I purchased in February, same issue with not accepting my S/N. I know I will be a candidate for the new ROM so hopefully, the issue as described above from HTC support will prove to be accurate and we can download in a relative short time. I am really excited to try this new Official ROM as I am not comfortable flashing the ROM's that are available otherwise. I just don't have enough technical background to feel like I can do it without the real risk of bricking my FUZE.

HTC Fuze support site is down...
For now, they are probably fixing the issue with the S/N error because the support sub-site for the HTC Fuze is down.

why would you guys want a rom that weve had the updates for months? and 6.5 is already working great for us plus without all the att junk?

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why would you guys want a rom that weve had the updates for months? and 6.5 is already working great for us plus without all the att junk?
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I concur! There really is no reason to downgrade to this rom....

thesilentnight said:
I concur! There really is no reason to downgrade to this rom....
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It could have some updated drivers and it looks like it has a new radio in it. That's the main benefit of getting this.

I wouldn't downgrade to 6.1, even if it has "new stuff"....won't take the cooks very long to extract any new stuff, and add it to the 6.5 roms
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It could have some updated drivers and it looks like it has a new radio in it. That's the main benefit of getting this.
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p51d007 said:
I wouldn't downgrade to 6.1, even if it has "new stuff"....won't take the cooks very long to extract any new stuff, and add it to the 6.5 roms
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I agree, that's what I meant by my post...once someone gets their hands on it and can extract the goodies

Well, this ROM is appreciated regardless
I think custom ROMs are sweet, and I am a big fan of 6.5. But, I personally kinda like official releases, despite 6.1 and the AT&T crapware. I'll probably end up installing a 6.5 rom anyway if AT&T doesn't make one, or if AT&T's really sucks. Besides, I am overloaded with MS betas on my PC and phone.

Does anyone know when it will be downloadable again? The link seems to be down again or is there another place to find it?

If this allows the MS voice command to say the name of the caller, then I'm all for this update.