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Video of Windows Mobile 5.0 on MDA Compact

Ok... someone please figure this one out and tell me why he's not willing to share...
Thread:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=5377239
Post:
http://howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=5372826&postcount=7
Video:
http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28NFHGXNTYJJW3HO3N3SXFYFPQ

To me it just looks like one picture following another - a slideshow?
The signal strength is at least one bar higher on the dialer screen than on Today. It could be a coincidence, but could also be an indication that it's just two screenshots from a Himalaya or whatever...(?)

If you resized a few screenshots from XP to 240x320 and loaded them up in a full-screen slideshow that would advance when you tapped the screen, you could end up with appearing to have XP on your phone.
The video's too grainy and short to be able to make any decisions, so it might be real. My guess is that it's another hoax though.

And the reason he won't share, might be a clue that he doesn't have it. But I do think that they're testing it on a Magician, cause they're testing it on almost every PPC device. The E-Ten M500 will get an official WM5.0 upgrade and that device is very similar to the Magician, so..... time will tell. For now I'm still very happy with WM2003, no resets or what so ever.

deuxani said:
And the reason he won't share, might be a clue that he doesn't have it. But I do think that they're testing it on a Magician, cause they're testing it on almost every PPC device. The E-Ten M500 will get an official WM5.0 upgrade and that device is very similar to the Magician, so..... time will tell. For now I'm still very happy with WM2003, no resets or what so ever.
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Yeah agreed - i'm not desperate for 2005 - i'll wait till it's well tested and stable. What's the point of having the latest thing if it just crashes all the time?

at least we know it exists.
Nice video

Could be he loaded some images at full screen.. we're not seeing any keypresses or a change in the loading of the phone application... it just comes up suddenly... i doubt it would be that speedy on the compact.

It's slideshow...100%...

Should I upgrade? Please help me decide...

Hey all,
My wizard is about 1 year old, and I'm getting the need for an upgrade.
I was thinking about trying a WM6 ROM, but can't decide if I should.
My question really are:
1. Is it worth it? Will it feel any different than WM5, other than just new look?
2. What are the chances of bricking the device during the upgrade?
Thanks a lot..

kramerica2 said:
Hey all,
My wizard is about 1 year old, and I'm getting the need for an upgrade.
I was thinking about trying a WM6 ROM, but can't decide if I should.
My question really are:
1. Is it worth it? Will it feel any different than WM5, other than just new look?
2. What are the chances of bricking the device during the upgrade?
Thanks a lot..
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Let me just say that in January I was ready to throw my Wizard (8125) in the trash. I hated the phone as it was the worst purchase I ever made. It was unreliable, dropped calls, and reset for no reason all the time. It became for me just a PDA, and even then one I barely used since it would reset everytime I started to really need it (or so it seemed). My Nokia 6620 was far more reliable and useful than my 8125 ever was (but due to contracts and prices, getting a new replacement wasn't really an option for me, but I did figure out how to SIM unlock my Nokia 6620 so I was looking at going back to it). Since I had decided to go back to the 6620, I remembered hearing about people flashing custom roms on their Wizard devices, and decided to come back to XDA-Dev (I had found it last September but the term "brick" scared me off), and give it a shot. What was the worst that could happen? Brick it? I was ready to trash it anyway so who cared.
I read everything and decided to give the Faria AKU3.3 a try (WM6 was brand new out and I was intemidated by things I was reading). After I successfully CID Unlocked and then flashed the Tmobile 2.26 rom (which I found hilarious on a Cingular device) I then did AKU 3.3. All I can say is, the rest is history. My eyes were opened. Suddenly this phone became what it was supposed to have been when I bought it. It was fast and reliable. All of my issues (resets, hangs, and dropped calls) were all gone!
So at a minimum, CID Unlock (if you ahve a G3) and put a custom WM5 rom on. You will NOT be disappointed...
But then the ROM flashing bug took over and I'm firmly into WM6 now. I don't think I can ever think about going back to WM5. I just like the feel and ease of things in WM6 (but at first some things I did not like so it takes time to get used to some of the changes).
So good luck in what you decide. Most claim after upgrading to mine (or many other of the custom roms here) that their phone has new life and it stalls the need to switch to buying a new device... Yeah, I'll probably move to an 8525 (Hermes) sometime, but right now my little Wizard is my best buddy and as important to me as my work computer. I use it for everything now...

mfrazzz said:
Let me just say that in January I was ready to throw my Wizard (8125) in the trash. I hated the phone as it was the worst purchase I ever made. It was unreliable, dropped calls, and reset for no reason all the time. ...
I read everything and decided to give the Faria AKU3.3 a try (WM6 was brand new out and I was intemidated by things I was reading). After I successfully CID Unlocked and then flashed the Tmobile 2.26 rom (which I found hilarious on a Cingular device) I then did AKU 3.3. All I can say is, the rest is history. My eyes were opened. Suddenly this phone became what it was supposed to have been when I bought it. It was fast and reliable. All of my issues (resets, hangs, and dropped calls) were all gone!
.....
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Hmmm... this is a good piece of history. Can it go into the ROM flashers anonymous thread? Please...
kernelguy

Now trying to build a hybrid ROM (wm5 core, with WM6 features)

I'll wait and check if anyone can guess what's currently on my uni!!!
Hints?? -
- Its really reallyyy fast!!
- Stable as it can ever be!!
- Hasnt crashed since long, and i'm hell confident it wont for quite a long time!
- Around 25-30 Megs free RAM any given time!!
Anyone???

sound like Nncuong 2.11.11, in my G4.
am I right?

I hope it's Mamaich's new build (G3/G4 with flashdisk and 128mb ram) and that you share it soon.
dreamtheater39 said:
I'll wait and check if anyone can guess what's currently on my uni!!!
Hints?? -
- Its really reallyyy fast!!
- Stable as it can ever be!!
- Hasnt crashed since long, and i'm hell confident it wont for quite a long time!
- Around 25-30 Megs free RAM any given time!!
Anyone???
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2003se? lol

Midget_1990 said:
2003se? lol
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xD
yeah. sounds like an wm5 or something like that.

yep,I think it s WM5 3.3

haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
The problem is - my phone goes to sleep with me at night, I wake up, and my phone doesnt! Only the radio portion is dead, and the rest of the device is usable.
Is there any tool like a "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" on my uni? So that i can wipe out ever resident bit on it to get it to a virgin state?
Hmmm....now this is getting crazy for sure! Guess I'll try changing the radios and see if something works....
San

I have exactly same problem. I think the GSM radio is bust... I ordered new mother board after many attempts at flashing, repairing...
Will report when I get it,
--Summoner

dreamtheater39 said:
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
San
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Hi San,
1. Out of curiosity, what Radio version are you using with wm5?
2. Is it the same Radio version provided by the seller of your Universal brand?
3. If not, than can you flash the original Radio version version provided by the seller of your Universal brand and see the difference then?
KOR!

Hey!
I made no changes, continued running in 1.17 radio.....and hasnt crashed as yet The same config crashed last morning, and hasnt crashed since then....it looks very stable so far, no soft resets at all :-/
I hate wm5 for many many reasons, i'm thissss close to jumping back...
I miss the phone app of wm6, miss the keyboard shortcuts all over (messaging app mainly!) and quick searching feature. I'll try cooking a custom wm5 rom with wm6's phone and messaging app when i have some time, if that works, then that would be just perfect!
@KOR
Its 1.17 radio....looks like its working fine now! will wait a while longer and post in....looks like wm5 is no doubt much more stable when compared to wm6
San

Hey guys...
Giving it a go - merging wm6 features with a wm5 rom! Lets see how that goes, i hope i dont end up bricking my device
Cheers,
San

Disappointment
It throws "cprog.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application" and the phone module does not power up at all :-/
Looks like wm6's phone app is not designed to run on wm5. Can someone else with more experience give a shot at this?
Cheers,
San

dreamtheater39 said:
haha!
Guess what, i sure did go back to wm5 mainly because of phone unreliability!
The interesting find-
The phone crashes up in wm5 too (((
Now, is it the radio rom which is screwed up? What could it be, now i sure am clueless :-?
The problem is - my phone goes to sleep with me at night, I wake up, and my phone doesnt! Only the radio portion is dead, and the rest of the device is usable.
Is there any tool like a "LOW LEVEL FORMAT" on my uni? So that i can wipe out ever resident bit on it to get it to a virgin state?
Hmmm....now this is getting crazy for sure! Guess I'll try changing the radios and see if something works....
San
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Hi,
How old is your battery ???
(and have you tried " mtty " ?
greetings,
Wout

dreamtheater39 said:
Disappointment
It throws "cprog.exe is not a valid Pocket PC Application" and the phone module does not power up at all :-/
Looks like wm6's phone app is not designed to run on wm5. Can someone else with more experience give a shot at this?
Cheers,
San
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hi, for my case, i have based the last official xv6700 rom aku v3.3, it is wm5, and i downloaded Microsoft Device Emulator wm6. my idea is wm6 os, with official wm5 hardware driver. put wm6 os to replace wm5 os in the aku v3.3 rom.
i still have not to start move any files. because i don't know what is files need to moves.
regards.

dont be mean but...

this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay

jayjay8585 said:
this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay
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There is no OFFICIAL 6.1 rom. Just test and cooked roms.

oh ok then so why are microsoft advertising this as a release when its an up and coming
it diffenatley says 6.1 has arrived

I think Microsoft are done with the rom but not HTC or the operators.

No official ROM with WM6.1 is released as of this moment.
It depends on your OEM (Orange I guess) whether you will get an official WM6.1 update.
HTC has promised they will release a new ROM based on WM6.1 (and it will include something of a driver or stuff...). But it is intended for original unbranded HTC devices. It will be released later (this month?).
If you would really want WM6.1, the best option is to flash a cooked ROM. Most recent ones are WM6.1 based.
Don't look at Microsoft for ROM upgrades, that's not their duty.

does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters

jayjay8585 said:
does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters
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Correct. MS will NOT release a WM 6.1 ROM for anyone to download and install. Only the phone vendors (HTC, Orange, AT&T) release such ROMS.

The release of WM6.1 by Microsoft was a Release-To-Manufacturer (RTM) event. Ofcourse Microsoft puts this information on their site. It isn't really their intention of teasing you (I presume at least).
I takes some time for the OEMs to finalize a ROM with WM6.1. That's why there is a time interval between the MS announcement and the actual release.
What about UK operators? No idea...

cool so does anyone have the date of the release are is it speculation up until now, all of the websites i am reading say that htc will be releasing the rom mid may

No one really knows. If we did, everyone would have been really happy. HTC had promised a while ago they would be releasing a fix for the graphics problem somewhere near the end of March. It was never released.
Although I have all confidence in HTC and the sites reporting the impending ROM release, we'll never know the exact release date until the ROM is released.
If it's really such a big deal for you, start flashing!

well it does but my major issue is
a) i dont kno how to do it
b) will over write all my data
c) will it take away all my presets and settings
d) will invalidate my warranty
e) i thort microsoft were trying to take all the roms down

and last nite i seen a youtube clip of a person with a windows mobile 6.1 rom on a tytn II is this american

He was probably using a custom ROM...
Regarding your issues:
a) There is really enough info on this site which clearly explanes how to do it. It should be no problem really.
b) It will indeed reset all your settings and data. Some programs are designed to back up some of your data. Pim Backup is an example which backs up your PIM data.
c) see b)
d) It does, but it can be reverted. There is a thread regarding the issue.
e) Than enjoy it while you still can...

like someone said, there are leaked roms on this site, they're not official, but over here, that's plenty official enough for us
most of your questions can be answered by reading the first sticky in the forum, and/or the wiki, which i advise you to do so. once you are done with that, you will understand this rom upgrading process a lot more

imo cooked roms by chefs here at xda r so much better than oem roms so i don't even know why u would want the oem ..

does mean the eventual official rom will delete all the stuff too
im just pissed off coz with the programs ive got running ive got the best setup ive had
i used freestyl but there was too many bugs so now i use ifonz and s2u2
ive got all my cabs backed up tho which is good
my poroblems with my micro sd are worst
bought a 6gb micro sdhc off amazon, which only showed up as 1.69 gb after researching i got theat pnanasonic formatter thingy and then it worked fine, then it just stopped working. ive got a claim in with amazon to get the money back
still dont know wether it was a fake or not

Make no mistake, upgrading any ROM will completly reset your device.
If you would ever start flashing, there are tools which allow automated installations of CABs. In that way, you can get your device up and running in a very short period of time.
Tools that come to mind ar UC (user customization) and the tools provided by XDA-member Bengalih.
Better luck next time with your microSDHC card...

i just hope it get resolved

does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet

jayjay8585 said:
does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet
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if it works once you probably don't have a fake, you may need to reformat the sdhc, also a lot of older roms have issues with sdhc. On your original note, jump in man the cooked roms are great. Google xda pim backup, download pim backup and backup your stuff (or just use activesync), Use Olipro to safeguard your device, and then flash a cooked rom, I recomend Dutty's April 29, read the wiki before you flash, your phone will become so much more useful, give it a try.

Going Back @ My 1st Luv!!

So, after selling my x7501, about 3 years ago, I have had the HTC Touch Pro (unlocked), HTC Touch Pro 2 (Tmobile US), & now the HTC HD2 (Tmobile US) - don't get me wrong, they were all great devices in their on right, but I was much, much happier & productive with my x7501. & with those devices I still have 2 carry a netbook - not 2 mention all the freezing & resetting i am dealing with with my HD2 - such a headache! in order 2 get back to my "happy place" I am in the process of ordering an x7510!
Question: Can someone tell me what's the maximum size memory card it supports??

Double post
it depends what rom you use (my one has the latest drivers/build ), 16gb card works. (haven't tried 32gb)

Thank you!! I'm sorry for the double post i hit the back browser by mistake & couldn't figure out how to delete one - but thank you for replying, I appreciate it!
I notice in your signature line you have WM6.5, is it easy to upgrade from 6.1?

chellie said:
I notice in your signature line you have WM6.5, is it easy to upgrade from 6.1?
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You can't 'upgrade', its like a 'full instalation' , it does a hard rest and so you lose your data. Also you need to change your stock SPL to a hard SPL found in the sticky.

i guess i will have 2 try it when i receive my phone, before i load anything.
i hope the process is painless, i've never did a full install before.
on that thread will it give me information & warnings on what to look out for? will i loose any valuable programs thats already installed on the phone?

You can always revert if you don't like it, no problem.

Hey, chellie, good to see an 'old' new X7510 user.
It's very simple to change your ROM.
First of all, read this thread about Hard-SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
After that, just select the ROM that you want. We have few 'chefs' here. So there are few options, but all of them are making good ROMs.
The new one is from Vico100.
Unfortunately, 6.5.x does not support RealVGA (if you don't know about this app, search it here on xda. It is a real new life for X7510 to make it as a wonderful netbook).

hiroshi.rio said:
Hey, chellie, good to see an 'old' new X7510 user.
It's very simple to change your ROM.
First of all, read this thread about Hard-SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
After that, just select the ROM that you want. We have few 'chefs' here. So there are few options, but all of them are making good ROMs.
The new one is from Vico100.
Unfortunately, 6.5.x does not support RealVGA (if you don't know about this app, search it here on xda. It is a real new life for X7510 to make it as a wonderful netbook).
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Thank you hiroshi.rio.
I owned a x7501 previously, but I used it stock.
With purchasing the x7510, I may just do the same, I am way to nervous to dry to change or update the ROMs - I have no experience in doing so, and I don't wanna mess anything up
I appreciate the information and I will look at the recommended forum and take in as much info as I can.
So updating the system or changing it to RealVGA makes it more like a netbook? That sounds interesting, I have to look into that.