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Hi all,
I'm back from a while.
Finally got back to the Windows Mobile "scene".
I've got a MDA Compact now (Dutch version).
Unlocked it with the tool of itsme.
For that, many many thanks!!
I dont know if I can ask this and it soons a little n00b but I really want to know.
What rom is best to upgrade to?
What are the advantaged and disadvantages of the different roms.
Please explain why I should go for a particular rom.
And what's up with the bigstorage roms / hack?
Can anyone explain? What is the use of it?
I have a 1gb SD card, is it still handy to do the storage hack?
Can I expand my internal (system) memory with it?
sorry for all the questions but I feel like a n00b again with my new device...
Thanks for the help in advance!
(btw using a Dutch Orange simcard atm)
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ok, im kinda n00b here as well, but lemme try to bring a little light to you:
radio 1.13 seems to be a must, the performance remarkable better compared to it's predecessors.
if you'd like an english version, the rom 1.12 can be used.
bigstorage, made easy:
there's about 32M of ROM wasted for a lot of CAB files that are only needed to setup your device after cold reset.
(by the way, most of this stuff is a waste of ressources anyway, depending on your device's brand)
copy these files to your hard drive, merge this ROM area to the "Storage" folder and you'll get a little less than 32M of NV memory.
Just now, i'm pretty into these procedures, cause i've gotta chinese O2 mini in asia, changed it to english, applied the bigstorage patch and made a lot of mistakes ;-)
so lemme know if you need futher assistance, i'll be glad to help.
fritz
FritzCat1 said:
ok, im kinda n00b here as well, but lemme try to bring a little light to you:
radio 1.13 seems to be a must, the performance remarkable better compared to it's predecessors.
if you'd like an english version, the rom 1.12 can be used.
bigstorage, made easy:
there's about 32M of ROM wasted for a lot of CAB files that are only needed to setup your device after cold reset.
(by the way, most of this stuff is a waste of ressources anyway, depending on your device's brand)
copy these files to your hard drive, merge this ROM area to the "Storage" folder and you'll get a little less than 32M of NV memory.
Just now, i'm pretty into these procedures, cause i've gotta chinese O2 mini in asia, changed it to english, applied the bigstorage patch and made a lot of mistakes ;-)
so lemme know if you need futher assistance, i'll be glad to help.
fritz
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Hey Fritz,
Thanks for replying and your help.
I made it work finally
Got 1.12 WWE with 1.13 Radio!
And bigstorage!
Hi all,
Ive just got myself a tmobile wizard. ive been looking all through the wm6 pages and was just wondering is it worth me updating my wm5 to wm6. im sure all the new users would like to know this (is there speed improvements etc) and is there a rom that is stable and 99% working? as ive had alot of problems in the past when updating my blueangel to wm5
apologies if these are stupid questions
IMO, there's not enough extra in WM6 to justify the little problems it has. I'd suggest a stable WM5 like Farias 3.3
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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I would 2nd that!!! Now that we have the Ir button working 100%, i dont think there is other problems
So far so good here....
I know it's kinda aging now but I have been running NotTooSmart's Vanilla Rom for a while now and I have no issues whatsoever. I use my device constantly all day every day and though there was some trick to getting it to work just how I wanted I was comfortable enough to put the same ROM on my wife's Wizard as well (If you only knew how big of a step this was.... god forbid something goes wrong there I will never hear the end of it) .
Overall, here is the list of things that I do with rom if you are contemplating using it yourself and want to know if it will work for you.
Exchange activesync (heavy use)
Pocket IE
AIM 2.0 for PPC (osed once or twice)
Watching movies with TCPMP
( SEE TCPMP NOTES BELOW )
I use WMP as my only MP3 player with a couple of SD cards
WIFI works fine
Bluetooth headset with my HT850 works fine
Phone works okay. I mean, nothing is perfect and I do miss a call on occasion but so far it's acceptable. I have found, despite my previous posts, that 2.19 UK actually is more reliable. 2.25 US is better for data in my area but 2.19 UK causes me to miss a lot less calls.
I use internet radio via TCPMP at the gym every day reliably.
Sirius Sat Radio via SiriusWM5 works great although on occasion I do get the odd program error - NOTE: happens in WM5 too.
I DO NOT OVERCLOCK AT ALL as I really have no need for it.
Ewallet latest release works great
Listpro works great
I use a whole bunch of networking apps (tracert, pocket ping, etc...) from way back in the WM2003 days that still work just fine on WM6.
Terminal services works (though most people will not use this).
TCPMP NOTE: In order to do internet radio and most video you will need to DL and install the WMV9 codecs. This is a known issue and can be found by searching through back posts here in the WM6 forum.
Overall, I say yeah, it's worth it. It's more of an evolutionary upgrade than anything but it's a "nice to have". Plus, HTML email is real nice if you have EXCH 2007.
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
peterson65 said:
farias 3.3 is awsome , all of the wm6 roms have issues but i am using the clean wm6 from faria thats in the rom kitchen and it seems just as stable as the wm5 3.3
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How is the battery life with this rom?
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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I think this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406
Make sure you have either G3 or G4 device as downloading the wrong version will brick your device.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks all for the help!
i think i will give it a go, can anyone give me a direct link to the faria 3.3 rom (i cant seem to find it)
also is there anything i must be careful of when updating the rom so i dont brick it!
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If you are wanting to give WM6 a go, then the Faria 3.3 rom is not the correct one. That is a WM5 rom.
The Faria Clean / Vanilla is the WM6 one. You have to download the entire ROM Kitchen, but there is a flash rom directory that has a default rom already built (or you can go through the build process to add and remove the stuff you want / don't want.
The link for the Faria WM6 is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303406 (same as given above, but that is NOT the AKU 3.3 Faria ROM)
If you really want Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its a stable WM5 ROM) then its here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291806
And then use this link to step you through flashing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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How is the battery life with this rom?
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it seems better than any wm6 i have tried , it does not have battery status installed and i have not installed it yet so without that and no overclocking its holding up as good as it did with farias wm5 3.3.
cobra2222 said:
ok thanks alot for the help....i have to wait 90mins for rapidshare to let me download the downgrade rom
will let you know how it turned out!
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sometimes you can get around the 90 minute wait by just putting http://anonym.to/? infront of the URL. Doesn't always work but its worth a try.
Is it worth it?
I know I'm coming in late to the thread, but I think in general I would be a bit more cautious. The leap from a stock rom to a (necessarily) custom WM6 rom, and then to a rom kitchen is better taken in baby steps in my opinion. In my own view, objectively I don't see any difference in my day to day usage of my wizard from when I was running WM5. In fact, I think because I've become obsessed with tinkering with it, I spend more time trying out different odds and ends, tweaking and breaking and fixing things than I do using it!
If you are primarily interested in USING you Wizard, I would start with a small step to say the Faria 3.3 WM5 rom. Learn to unlock, and flash, load your programs again, etc. Then once that's digested move up to WM6 if you really feel the itch, then try a rom kitchen as a final step.
Whatever you do, Keep it Fun!
Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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i used to tinker my blueangel so much, but the wm5 roms just didnt work right. with this rom from the kitchen is it just a 'stock' one? will it just have the programs my tmobile rom has? as im happy with my tmobile rom but i just want to have wm6. i dont need all the tweaking tools as long as it works
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No, its a "Vanilla" or "Clean" rom (ie: pretty much stripped down to the core). So you then add back to it just what you want.
If you want a full featured WM6, then look at Faria's "the real thing" but there are issues with that one so you have to dig through the huge thread for fixes (so I don't recommend it). If you want something that feels like a "stock" rom, then do the Faria AKU 3.3 (again, its WM5, but its better than the stock ones IMO).
I like the Vanilla roms though as you just put on it what you want. But not everyone likes that.
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Very good points, but unfortunately, Faria did not release his "Vanilla" as a seperate ROM but instead with the entire kitchen (which I agree could be dangerous for someone new). My point was you can use that Vanilla rom by downloading the entire kitchen, but just going to the falshrom directory and flashing what came with it as the default (I understand its basically what we were running in beta which is a very nice ROM). It is a very good WM6 rom with no "cooking" required.
I've thought about making a couple of these Faria Vanilla's up and posting them (with Faria's permission) for those that only want the rom and not the entire kitchen (or the temptation that comes with it).
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I think that's a great idea. Even if you put in all his currently available options, it is still more of a vanilla rom. Maybe with and without Voice Command, as that seems to be a make or break issue for folks. But serve it up the way you like it!
cobra2222 said:
ive unlocked and my pda is ready for wm6. what file do i run from the kitchen folder to start the update?
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Well, if you're going to do this, now its time to start reading that thread.
Good luck!
i just want to install the vanilla standard rom, do i just need to run an exe from the kitchen folder?
As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
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i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
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any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
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This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.
I have my i-mate SP5 running wm6 Tornado Perfect English Edition as of now. However I want to downgrade it back to the official i-mate ROM as I'm parting ways with my SP5.
I have found this ROM on the club i-mate FTP. ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/i-mate_SP5_WWE_2.5.331.2.zip
Can I flash this ROM without modifying anything and get to back to the original ROM? I did the SuperCID when I was upgrading so is there anything similar I should do when I'm downgrading?
Any help much appreciated.
Just hard reset and run the RUU, or be safe, format BINFS first
Do you mean the file I mentioned above? Couldn't find RUU file on the club i-mate server.
RUU is basically the ROM im talking about here
From what I've seen, the stock ROMs (like the iMate one) are usually bigger than the cooked WM6 ROMs. So if you're uncomfortable with doing a format BINFS, you may be able to just download the file from the ftp site, and run it. You should be back to WM5.
Why are you going back anyway?
I'm also back at WM5... I tried to get along with the WM6 of Karhoe (who did a pretty good job) but I've got the problem with the time out delay at the incoming calls.
There I'm getting very much calls a day it was very frustrating to have that delay of 6-10 seconds...
Greetz
@Karhoe: I'm downloading the file I posted in the first post. That supppose to be the world wide english (WWE) version. What I'm trying to ask is that ROM only contain the OS, not the radio stack or IPL and other stuff? I just want it to return to the original wm5 OS while keeping other settings.
@bipinsen: Thanks for that. I got myself a iPhone and selling the SP5. I think it's better to sell with the original OS as there is more resources out there.
Basically most of the AKU2 ROMS contain a whole new IPL and radio stack I think, why don't you check with typhoonnbftool ?
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@bipinsen: Thanks for that. I got myself a iPhone and selling the SP5. I think it's better to sell with the original OS as there is more resources out there.
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Oooohhhh.. Now I'm envious!
I should think that selling it with WM6 should get you more buyers.
I look on Craigslist and rarely see WM6 phones. Annoys me. Part of why I chose HTC because I new I could buy it cheaper and upgrade it myself.
Just to update anyone who is interested I have downgraded using the ROM i mentioned in the first post. It was pretty straight forward; just have to run the installer.
@Exitao: I agree, but the buyer is more likely to find bugs in unsupported ROM. Now I have been using the wm5 ROM for few hours I notice how sluggish the official ROM is. Maybe I will give the buyer option to upgrade into the new ROM.
WM5 was always buggy, but so was WinCE3.0. Well, it is an MS product after all. They never got rid of the bugs, they just "upgraded" the OS.
Hi Guys,
I have been in contact with T-Mobile on a few occasions with regards to the update for the Vario 3, however I seem to be going nowhere fast as per the update to the Vario 2.
Anyone have any contacts within HTC or T-Mob to get a beta release of the software?
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it's what my search for 'T-mobile windows 6.1' led me to!
I've just received a Vario III replacement from T-mobile UK, and it comes installed with an official T-mobile 6.1 Rom.
I'm currently dumping it, and will attempt to reconstruct it (for installing for future returns if needed), and upload it if anyone wants it.
Apologies if this is old news and has been around for ages, but I could not find it in searches.
yes please I would like this very much!
I would also love to have this rom
Ok, I tried reconstructing it, but it was not successful.
I used the base rom and did everything as discribed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
I could not try it, as if it did not work, I'd lose the official rom, so someone here tried it and it was not like the T-mobile 6.1 rom.
Does anyone know if I need to use a 6.1 base rom instead of the WM6 one mentioned in the reconstruction thread?
I can upload the dumped raw files if anyone wants to try reconstruction?
Hi Folks,
I've uploaded the dumped .raw files from the official T-mobile UK 6.1 rom that I received with a replacement Vario III:
Part00.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193445393/Part00.raw
Part01.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193445718/Part01.raw
Part02.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193452226/Part02.raw
Part03.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193466366/Part03.raw.html
If you manage to reconstruct this, please upload the resulting rom so that myself and others can have it!
Cheers!
Anyone brave enough to give this a go?
Also, how good is the ROM? Does it appear fast?
It does seem quite good, stable & fast to be honest... and I've been used to quite up to date 6.1 cooked roms.
Though I usually just stick PointUI over any rom I use (as it's still better than TF2D for most things), so cooked roms don't really speed anything up significantly compared to the original T-mobile WM6 rom (as PointUI runs fast on all versions).
This rom doesn't have some of the good customisations or applications of more recent cooked roms, but it does come with a version of Audio Manager that has Volume up and down buttons on the screen. Seemingly unlike most chiefs, I consider this to be a useful feature for a music player!
I'd say it's definietly worth a try!
T-Mobile 6.1 UK (reconstructed without radio)
http://rapidshare.com/files/196056809/T-Mobile_6.1_UK.rar
Very nice.
Quick question, what is the version of the radio on your device?
Good work monkey, it works a treat. Cheers!
There are some decent things about this ROM on first impressions. The screen update when keyboard typing seems exceptionally fast, although the screen tilt change is perhaps a little slower than on some others ROMs.
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Very nice.
Quick question, what is the version of the radio on your device?
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The radio on my own device is from T-Mobile NL (just look at my sig)
I don't know the radio or the SPL version from the UK rom so I didn't include it.
Radio version 1.70.18.02 came with the 6.1 official T-mobile 6.1 rom on my Kaiser, and it seemed to work great.
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Radio version 1.70.18.02 came with the 6.1 official T-mobile 6.1 rom on my Kaiser, and it seemed to work great.
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Same radio as the dutch one, and is already in the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I had a new 6.1 UK rom when I had phone back but it would not let me pair up bluetooth with pc.
Any one got any problems with this with the rom?