Water & warranty - General Topics

Hello to all.
Recently a wet spot appeared on my Qtek2020. At first it was around 0.5 cm2, but it slowly grew to about half of the screen. I say appeared, beacuse I haven't spilled anything on the device.
Since my Qtek is still under warranty I haven't tried to disassemble it or anything but I did leave it to dry in a warm dry place. Now, the wetspot has disappeared but the marks (aroud the wetspot) are still visible and more importantly the device doesn't recognize "taps" in some parts of the screen (mostly on the place of on-screen keyboard which renders the phone pretty much useless, or at least very frustrating to use).
I reckon that the moisture was between the touch-recognizeing foil and the LCD screen. I think that this could happen due to condesation of water when I came from a cold and wet place (outisde) to a warm and dry environment (inside).
Our local Qtek service provider says that they I definatley spilled something on my PDA and they refuse to cover it under warranty. Of course paying 165 EUR for something I didn't do seems quite expensive.
Can anyone recommend anything that I could do? Thanks.

Sadly, this is the way it is done..
Do you have insurranse?
If not offered by your telcom, maybe a travellers insuranse perhaps?
I don't know the normal policies and standards of your country, but this MIGHT be covered by insuranse..

I have just had an XDA II handed back to me with almost the whole screen marked in this way.
Does anyone know of a supplier of damp proofing or rugged units. We use the XDA quite extensively, mainly outdoors.

Related

This must happen with other pdas... screen issue

I am experiancing some problems!
basically I think the manufacturer installed protective screen has come loose from the hard sensor (due to use?) and so the stylus is pushing on an air bubble, and with the software keyboard (virtual keyboard) the wrong buttons are getting pressed.
I dont know whether to cut out that layer with a scalpel (carefully) and use normal screen protectors that stick properly ... has anyone done this before?
Maybe you could apply heat to it to tighten it or something I dont know so I need help!
My phone is an alpine (xda2i) but other pdas must be having the same issue?
is it ok to cut the initial plastic screen that comes integrated with the xda?
Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
To check whether it is the digitizer or the crappy screen protector, you should be able to see the edge of the layer at the side, especially manufacturer orginial screen protector, they are really crappy. You should be able to seperate the layer (from the edge) with something pointy (e.g. a needle), and then peel it off from there.
If you didn't see any distinguishable edge at the edge of the screen, chances are you should not do anything yourself.
Jonjamesm said:
Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the responses!!!
I have a feeling that it is what you are referring to as a digitizer. Do most of the mobile phone shops do this heat option? as after googling it, not much comes up, or is it referred to under a different terminology,
thanks in advance!
Rob
If your UK based you can find out more about them from apex laptops, google them...
I'm in Edinburgh, and it took me a while before I found someone willing to replace the digitizer.
This is not a common thing - but I think with the introduction of the iphone the markets for heat syncing will go up, I suggest freeing up an afternoon and go to some of those dodgy shops that offer the unlocking service, also some computer repair shop technicians might be confident in doing something of this nature.
Happy hunting!...
JJ McG.
thanks for your help
whatever you do dont approach o2. they are ridiculous, they want to charge 350 dollars to peel off the old one and put a new on one. search ebay and you will find digitizres with screwdriver and peeling, firming tool for 15 dollars plus postage.
o2's repair guys say it "original" spares which make it so expensive....
right...........
rang up
rang up a couple of shops one doesn't do heat sync and the other does but the machines bust, he started talking about soldering etc...(does that sound like it?) but when i re-described the problem he started talking about 50 60 quid for a new screen! which I am not prepared to pay for the relatively minor problem
How is a digitiser different from a normal screen protector anyway?
(placing a normal protector on top of it sort of helped reduce the problems because it applied a little firmness over the offending area....)
O.k the digitizer is not a screen protector. The Digitizer is a membrane that sits atop the LCD.
Note: that the LCD is not a touch screen and the only thing making your device a touch sensitive is this digitizer
digitizers can be pricey, but the reason your guy is costing it at 50 - 60 quid is because he is the middle man and needs to make a profit. You can find digitizers from apex laptops or GPS midlands (links below) and buy them at trade prices
http://www.gpsmidlands.co.uk/index.php?menu=Home
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/touchscreens.htm
Dependant on your device will depend on the price.
My guy asked for 10 pounds to replace my screen, which I thought was more than reasonable because if he broke the LCD whilst replacing the digitizer (which he did) he was liable to replace it. Make sure that your guy will do this.
hope this helps.
after googling...
After googling for a bit, I came across someone who had these sort of problems with their own pda
http://jamescrisp.blogspot.com/2007/05/fixing-palm-treos-digitizer-touch.html
it seems that dirt stuck under the sides can cause the same kinds of problems,
after running a bit of paper under the corners of the screen I have found some interesting results, the problems I have have changed slightly and seem to rectify temporarily when I press down (rub down) on the screen...
so I might look at taking it apart with some tools off ebay or something and giving it a good clean... any recommendations on how to strip down and clean an Alpine....? actually I'll repost that in the aline forum if there isn't already a post there....
hope your confident in doing so - I'd take it to a shop if it pisses you off that much - taking it a part and cleaning might end up with you just having a big screen phone with no touch pad...
Up to you, hope your successful

cracked screen

So yesterday I went out to dinner, grabbed my trusty TP2 and put it in my pocket (uncracked), reached out location and pulled it out (cracked). I know there was no impact between the two locations as I simply sat in a car the whole way.
Anyone else have something similar? Glad I have insurance, that's for sure.
Is it possible you had the screen facing out in your pocket? What I mean by that is when I keep mine in my pocket I make sure the screen is against my leg and not facing forward.. Either way, good thing indeed that you have insurance..
it is, but its a coat pocket. I Just couldn't believe it happened as I've had a touch screen phone for the last...3 or 4 years without issue.
if you have made fun of someone that has a case on there hip that is why it happend to you if not then its bad luck.
do you really believe that crack could appear after no physical impact?
I've seen crazier things happen. My one thought was that its quite cold here right now. Either way, I definitely didn't have any impact that I felt, which shouldn't be enough to crack a screen like this did. I just expect more out of HTC I guess.
A screen protector like invisible shield would help i have it on mine...only thing i hear is that when used in ur pocket it can pick up a lot of lint but so far mine hasn't had that problem. any little bit of dust i see on it i just rub it off
I've got ghost armor, when they get back in stock and i claim my insurance i'm going to start using a slip in case.
football0552 said:
So yesterday I went out to dinner, grabbed my trusty TP2 and put it in my pocket (uncracked), reached out location and pulled it out (cracked). I know there was no impact between the two locations as I simply sat in a car the whole way.
Anyone else have something similar? Glad I have insurance, that's for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. A couple of days ago I got into a car, the TP2 in my pocket (which was hanging...unzipped jacket) closed the door and crack! Lovely cracks spread across the screen of my beloved and not even 30-day-old TP2.
I should have known better, The same thing happened to one of my Moguls earlier this year. The weird thing is, the TP2 still works perfectly. I tried to get a return authorization, but Sprint referred me Assurion, which means $100 deductible. The only good thing about it is that the TP2 is so new, they don't have any refurbs to send out, so I'm getting a new one, with one year warranty. From now on, cases only... no pockets!
Not sure what happened in your case,
A: My assurion deductable was $39... I could have sworn it was $89.
B: I need to find a good stiff slide in vertical case that I can just slide the phone into and out of in my pocket.
C: Assurion says they'll get my phone to me Tuesday (i.e. out Monday).... either they're full of cow chips or they purchased a stock just in case since Verizon is apparently trickling in shipments.
what was the temperature outside ?
if it was decently cold, and your phone was cold as well, cold things always crack easier, especially with a screen this big. smaller the screen, harder it is to break.
haha, well it was cold for this time of year. nothing terrible. about 20 degrees F. I know the size matters, I just couldn't believe it cracked so easily so I was really just fishing to see if its a possible problem. My replacement will be here today and i've been trying to find a good STIFF slide in vertical case I can just keep in my pocket.
I live in Canada and on occasion it gets down to -25 degress c here (-13F)
and I have left many cellphones out in the cold, with no ill effects (although screen response can slow down dramatically while it's cold)
the only thing that would crack it is a dramatic change in temp. over a short period of time, like 80 to -5 and I don't even know about that.
a screen skin is NOT going to prevent cracking, only scratches, the LCD glass is on the inside of the device and a think film doesn't add anything to stability.
my guess is it got flexed are banged in the wrong spot. possibly a few days earlier which weakened it and then lightly banged again when you put it in your pocket...
of course a defect in the internal glass is possible, when you get in to mass production of a product there are bound to be some defects.
mine on the other hand has traveled 10 feet across from say 4 feet up and hit pavement with no more than a 1mmx3mm indent on a corner.
it's in general a well build device (but boy was I sick when that first happened)
My advice, if your insurance costs money.. bring it in with a little story.
"I was sitting at a table and typing away I closed the keyboard, and I couldn't believe it a crack appeared across the screen"
As long as it is a solid crack across the screen with no obvious point of impact, I am pretty sure you will get away with it.. even with out insurance.
Football, Telus here in Canada has a thin hard plastic case for 15 canadian.
it will even prevent your screen from getting scratched. and makes that annoyingly placed "power"/screen blank button harder to push. I am pretty sure all the cdma devices are the same, but I don't know 100% I ordered a verison screen protector, and it fits. but the tolerances aren't as high for that
I had the same thing happen to me just a week ago. Slid it into my pocket and not even three minutes later, pulled it out to use the phone and had fresh cracks spreading across the screen. The phone did not come into contact with anything... Still a mystery to me as to how it happened!!
BTW... If you were looking at the phone in the upright position, the screen cracking started from the left middle of the screen and made it's way across to the bottom right corner. Just wondering if anyone else has had the same pattern.
twasnow said:
I live in Canada and on occasion it gets down to -25 degress c here (-13F)
and I have left many cellphones out in the cold, with no ill effects (although screen response can slow down dramatically while it's cold)
the only thing that would crack it is a dramatic change in temp. over a short period of time, like 80 to -5 and I don't even know about that.
a screen skin is NOT going to prevent cracking, only scratches, the LCD glass is on the inside of the device and a think film doesn't add anything to stability.
my guess is it got flexed are banged in the wrong spot. possibly a few days earlier which weakened it and then lightly banged again when you put it in your pocket...
of course a defect in the internal glass is possible, when you get in to mass production of a product there are bound to be some defects.
mine on the other hand has traveled 10 feet across from say 4 feet up and hit pavement with no more than a 1mmx3mm indent on a corner.
it's in general a well build device (but boy was I sick when that first happened)
My advice, if your insurance costs money.. bring it in with a little story.
"I was sitting at a table and typing away I closed the keyboard, and I couldn't believe it a crack appeared across the screen"
As long as it is a solid crack across the screen with no obvious point of impact, I am pretty sure you will get away with it.. even with out insurance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To keep it short, I know, I know, I know, and I know. lol. (Just for an interesting note, being in South Dakota for College I've had it around that cold without a windchill... walking to class and having your eyelashes freeze in a block sucks.)
I was more or less just trying to come up with the most plausible excuse even though I was sure (99.999%) it wasn't the cold. It just completely blew me away that I pulled it out and there was cracks across the screen because at the point I hadn't even dropped the phone and as previously mentioned I wasn't leaning or really touching anything while riding in the car.
Also, generally its not actually glass that's on resistive touchscreen's as far as I know. I wasn't trying to insinuate that the screen skin would help stability at all (actually stiffness... don't get my started about this I've been dealing with stiffness matrices WAY to much lately in class).
I agree in general it seems quite well built, and agree if my case is isolated but I was wanting to make sure it was. A point of note is that the crack originated on the far right side and propogated in a couple of lines across the screen. Really my guess is that the method they use to connect the "glass" (a plastic..?) produces some residual stresses around the edges of the material.
Finally, where do you get the case you have? I really just want a slip case as I mentioned that is pretty stiff so that anything that may possible break the screen gets spread out over the area of the case. I am trying to stay away from a snap on hard case as I find them bulky, get your device dirty, and really don't protect what I want to protect.
Thanks for your input.
wbchristmas said:
I had the same thing happen to me just a week ago. Slid it into my pocket and not even three minutes later, pulled it out to use the phone and had fresh cracks spreading across the screen. The phone did not come into contact with anything... Still a mystery to me as to how it happened!!
BTW... If you were looking at the phone in the upright position, the screen cracking started from the left middle of the screen and made it's way across to the bottom right corner. Just wondering if anyone else has had the same pattern.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mine cracked middle right and propagated in a crack more or less horizontally across the device and another at about a 45 degree angle towards the bottom of the screen. The instances sound similar just reversed.
The reason your screen cracked was most likely it pressed up against the seatbelt buckle. I have had this happen a couple of times. When driving now I ALWAYS take my phone out of my pocket or remove the case from my belt. As I said, a couple times I left it there and when I buckled up, the buckle of the seatbelt was pressed against my right hip. A little bit of pressure, like from stopping the car, is enough to crack the glass.
So word to the wise, do NOT leave your phone in your pocket or on your belt when you get into a car. Or if you do, put it on the side of your body that is facing away from the seat belt buckle.
docgiggs said:
The reason your screen cracked was most likely it pressed up against the seatbelt buckle. I have had this happen a couple of times. When driving now I ALWAYS take my phone out of my pocket or remove the case from my belt. As I said, a couple times I left it there and when I buckled up, the buckle of the seatbelt was pressed against my right hip. A little bit of pressure, like from stopping the car, is enough to crack the glass.
So word to the wise, do NOT leave your phone in your pocket or on your belt when you get into a car. Or if you do, put it on the side of your body that is facing away from the seat belt buckle.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha, I already do this. Actually, I was in the passenger seat and the phone was in the right pocket of my fleece jacket. I'm just the jacked it what damned me because normally when I put it in my pants I have the screen facing my leg.
Is this something that asurion will cover?

[Q] Hi Xperia Arc S problem

Hi guys.
Basically my problem is, today I was getting my MOT done, waiting around. Was using my phone to text, it was working fine.
Put my phone in my empty pocket, 2 minutes later, felt it vibrate and noticed I had a call coming in, but also the screen had a hairline Y shaped crack in it on the inside at the bottom.
No drops, knocks or nothing and its in a protective silicone case. I'm now having to basically hope that Sony believe me and let me know if its warranty repairable other than this its £50 - £60 charge for something that I did not do. Assuming they accuse me of dropping it.
Ive checked the net and it seems im not the only one this has happened to (albeit on other types of phones too).
Its only 4 months old from new, its a PAYG phone and had no insurance eek: I know).
What ground to I have to stand on if any at all ?
Bumped - Any ideas people ?
Has this ever happened to you guys ?
Your best bet on getting information is by asking here instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144774
Riyal said:
Your best bet on getting information is by asking here instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144774
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats more in reference to the exterior housing cracking, where as mine is the inside screen with zero exterior damage. But I suppose I see your point. Maybe someone has the same problem there due to heat....
If it's internal damage I don't see any reason for sony to reject your warranty. AFAIK if it was due to user mishandling then an exterior damage would be done before interior damages happen.
Riyal said:
If it's internal damage I don't see any reason for sony to reject your warranty. AFAIK if it was due to user mishandling then an exterior damage would be done before interior damages happen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks man, this is my view on it too. Although I imagine it wont be sony's.
The phone is only 4 months old and there is the general wear and tea on the case,the odd mark where its in and out the pocket and some scratches on the screen protector. But apart from that its immaculate. There is no significant damage on the case that would suggest It smashed of the ground.
If they tell me its broke because its been in my pocket then.... well, who doesn't put their phone in their pocket ?
As i say, its internal, screen has hairline crack inside, and went black at the bottom and also, unless I pressed the screen it just remained black.
Xperia23 said:
Thanks man, this is my view on it too. Although I imagine it wont be sony's.
The phone is only 4 months old and there is the general wear and tea on the case,the odd mark where its in and out the pocket and some scratches on the screen protector. But apart from that its immaculate. There is no significant damage on the case that would suggest It smashed of the ground.
If they tell me its broke because its been in my pocket then.... well, who doesn't put their phone in their pocket ?
As i say, its internal, screen has hairline crack inside, and went black at the bottom and also, unless I pressed the screen it just remained black.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just thought id Update... Sony fixed it for free for me. Support I received was amazing TBF. New screen and its working good as new.

Self cracking screen?

Hi,
Last weekend, the front of my Z3 developed a hairline crack across the front while it was in my pocket.
I used it at the shops, put it in my pocket, walked home (5 mins) and took it out, and noticed it had what I thought was a scratch on the front. I wasnt bothered as it has a screen protector.
When i tried to use it, the touch screen was unresponsive, and when i turned it slightly sideways it became apparent there was a hairline crack in the glass.
The phone is in /perfect/ condition. Not a mark on it.
It seems from some googling that this is a common problem.
Took it into Car Phone Warehouse today, and they are sending it off to Sony to see if they will repair it. The Geek Squad guy said his did the same.
Sods law that this happens just as the Lollipop release finally happens /
Anyway, will update when I hear back from them as to if they are gonna fix it
George
I dont know for you. But i used mine as car GPS navigation for 6 hours directly exposed to sun and it was really HOT. Dont have a single mark on it.
Also i wear few jeans which have tight pockets, and it didnt made damage.
Maybe you were just out of luck, or you just saw it in that moment.
Its up in the air as to the cause of the mysterious xperia cracking. Some say its thermal, some say its a chemical pollutant in the screen. Hopefully sony will do the right thing and fix it for me.
I dont think its thermal in this case - the only temperature variation it got between fine and cracked was body temperature vs. uk april indoor temp which is basically no difference. It survived winter in the north of england OK
ripnetuk said:
Its up in the air as to the cause of the mysterious xperia cracking. Some say its thermal, some say its a chemical pollutant in the screen. Hopefully sony will do the right thing and fix it for me.
I dont think its thermal in this case - the only temperature variation it got between fine and cracked was body temperature vs. uk april indoor temp which is basically no difference. It survived winter in the north of england OK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe just a bad luck. I hope you will fix it and enjoy as soon as possible. Because since i bought this phone, i dont have anything against it.
same happened to mine.
Just by carrying it in jacket. Now the screen has a hairline upside down and sensitivity in the screen is lost, except for the upper left side, so useless.
Any more people with issues like this?
daniel_fm said:
same happened to mine.
Just by carrying it in jacket. Now the screen has a hairline upside down and sensitivity in the screen is lost, except for the upper left side, so useless.
Any more people with issues like this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you want to take out your keys, next time you throw it in your jacket.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Maybe you want to take out your keys, next time you throw it in your jacket.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
keys never go in that pocket, that would be very unconfortable to reach. Keys would do screen scratches though, and I have none, a perfect shiny screen, just with a long hairline upside down.
When I get my fixed screen I will certainly use one of those plastic screen protectors.
daniel_fm said:
keys never go in that pocket, that would be very unconfortable to reach. Keys would do screen scratches though, and I have none, a perfect shiny screen, just with a long hairline upside down.
When I get my fixed screen I will certainly use one of those plastic screen protectors.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Plastic? Use a tempered glass one.
And a case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Maybe you want to take out your keys, next time you throw it in your jacket.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You had to be that guy, the denier, the corporate defender. Self cracking screens do happen.
Happened to my Z2 which Sony repaired under warranty. They wouldn't do that if they weren't responsible. In my experience any singular cracks like those seen on my handset will be accepted by Sony for repair. Any spider web cracks they won't as thats consistent with impact damage.
My Z3 has tempered glass front and skin applied to the rear. I also have insurance covering damaged screens with a reasonable excess if required. I would not advise anyone to buy an Xperia Z device without also doing so.
https://plus.google.com/+StuBlakeley/posts/3YrjLU9ByHa
https://plus.google.com/+StuBlakeley/posts/BDbBLtbrA7P
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/3...peria-z1-cracking-screen-issue-sony-responds/
SB13X said:
You had to be that guy, the denier, the corporate defender. Self cracking screens do happen.
Happened to my Z2 which Sony repaired under warranty. They wouldn't do that if they weren't responsible. In my experience any singular cracks like those seen on my handset will be accepted by Sony for repair. Any spider web cracks they won't as thats consistent with impact damage.
My Z3 has tempered glass front and skin applied to the rear. I also have insurance covering damaged screens with a reasonable excess if required. I would not advise anyone to buy an Xperia Z device without also doing so.
https://plus.google.com/+StuBlakeley/posts/3YrjLU9ByHa
https://plus.google.com/+StuBlakeley/posts/BDbBLtbrA7P
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/3...peria-z1-cracking-screen-issue-sony-responds/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are people with the same problem that you, and warranty did not covered it, so...be careful next time with your phone.
Not abuse
Mine defo went in a pocket by itself (keys in same pocket ? Obvious bad idea). I also had screen protector that came in box with phone and after market silicone case.
TheTeslaCoil said:
There are people with the same problem that you, and warranty did not covered it, so...be careful next time with your phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes because thanks to people willing to keep siding with the corporate profit makers over their fellow consumers and the lack of willingness for major tech news and mainstream media outlets to cover this properly and apply relevant pressure to Sony means that many of the people I've read about being refused service are from outside countries such as the UK with weighty consumer protection laws. Thankfully with shows run like Watchdog on the BBC and other consumer champions we have more luck fighting this.
I believe consumers who can show pictures of their phones with the hairline cracks over Sony. I know who has most to lose.
SB13X said:
Yes because thanks to people willing to keep siding with the corporate profit makers over their fellow consumers and the lack of willingness for major tech news and mainstream media outlets to cover this properly and apply relevant pressure to Sony means that many of the people I've read about being refused service are from outside countries such as the UK with weighty consumer protection laws. Thankfully with shows run like Watchdog on the BBC and other consumer champions we have more luck fighting this.
I believe consumers who can show pictures of their phones with the hairline cracks over Sony. I know who has most to lose.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But how can you prove you didn' t dropped it?
TheTeslaCoil said:
But how can you prove you didn' t dropped it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have to prove I didn't drop it, seeing as it broke a mere 6 weeks into ownership.
Consumer Rights
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/brighton-hove/con1item.cgi?file=*adv0043-1011.txt
If you have accepted the goods and are seeking repair or replacement within the first six months after purchase, it is for THE TRADER to prove that the goods conformed to the contract (were not faulty) at the time they were sold to you. If you are claiming repair or replacement more than six months after purchase, the burden of proof is back to YOU, the consumer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is up to them to prove I had, hairline cracks don't do that on impact damaged screens. Spider webbing occurs on smashed impact damaged screens.
SB13X said:
I don't have to prove I didn't drop it, seeing as it broke a mere 6 weeks into ownership.
Consumer Rights
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/brighton-hove/con1item.cgi?file=*adv0043-1011.txt
It is up to them to prove I had, hairline cracks don't do that on impact damaged screens. Spider webbing occurs on smashed impact damaged screens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, useful post for everybody.
It' s always good to know your rights.
That's bad luck man, sorry to hear it.
Yeah most people that are regular XDA users take good care of their devices, so I don't doubt for a second this is due to some manufacturing defect.
I am curious though to everyone this has happened to:
Were you using stamina mode by any chance?
Was it hot outside that day, or exposed to heat regularly?
Did you have your screen set on automatic brightness?
Did you test the phone for water proofing?
I'm just asking this because I'm wondering if heat and/or pressure played a factor.
Regardless, it's definitely Sony's responsibility to repair/replace the device free of charge.
They Fixed It
PLeased to report that I put it into Car Phone Warehouse for repair, and they sent it to Sony, who fixed it for free (and flashed Lollipop to boot!).
Very happy, and very happy I have my SD card back (due to Lollipop)
What were google thinking hobbling it like that in KK?
George
Nice congrats on getting good customer service and your phone back. [emoji4]
KitKat was actually released as a "security only" update. Google implemented SD card restrictions with the KitKat update after scrutiny over it's "lax" security by people such as Phil Schiller (Apple marketing exec) and others. This scrutiny had a snowball effect which eventually led to the SD card frustration we've all dealt with on KitKat.
While the Lollipop update addresses some of these frustrations, it is FAR from perfect and still causes problems for many users.
Following the locked bootloader rooting guide by G-Face (so you can keep your DRM keys) and then running SDFix from the Play Store, resolves all issues resulting from the SD card access issue (for both KitKat and Lollipop).
SD Card access is perfect now..
Cheers
IMHO SD card access is perfect in Lollipop (apart from needing specific support - would be nice to externally say " I want obscure program X that isnt lollipop aware (eg. rsync in my case) to have access, but what is have allows dropsync and ES File explorer access, which is good enough for me...
Im scared to root phones now, since a lot of companies deny warranty if that is done. Illegal or no in the EU its a fight i dont have time to have...
cheers
g
Got bitten tonight
Went out to eat with my family this evening, as we were leaving, I tried to unlock my phone to check email, but the touch screen was non-responsive. After closer inspection I discovered several hairline cracks on the screen. What's really odd is the phone was fine when we sat at the table, evening doing a quick search for my father in law. I put the phone in my front pocket by itself. 30 minutes later the screen was cracked., I'm hoping T-Mobile or Sony will help me out, otherwise I'm done with both.

Screen ruined .. is there hope for me?

Hi,
first of all i will start with saying that I suppose I am not entitled to the official samsung warranty or customer service, as i bought my phone form ebay (unlocked version, shipped from Hong Kong). Unfortunately in my absence my younger brother managed to lightly scratch the screen when he was playing with it, he got scared and tried to get rid of the scratch by rubbing it with toothpaste (it's something he read on the internet, supposedly it was supposed to "polish" the light scratches and get rid of them). Of course it didn't work, and just made it worse. In fact it created a dull, round spot on the screen just where the scratch is, it was hard to clean and attracted moisture easily, moreover when screen was on you could notice a grainy/greasy spot. I guessed, that the toothpaste must've removed the oleophobic coating on the screen, so I thought i will buy a oleohobic coating kit, which i did. I went to Amazon and order the Crystalusion Liquid Glass, praying for it to fix it. After application it restored the hydro/oleophobic properties in that spot, and made it smooth just like the rest of the screen. Unfortunately the grainy/greasy effect while screen is on remained, and under direct light you can still see the dull spot, so i guess apart of removing the coating, he must've sanded the glass underneath it. I am thinking of putting a second layer of that liquid glass thingy, hoping it will fill the sanded pores, and smoothen the glass even more, maybe it will do the trick. It's not something that disturbs the every day usage, but i just cant get over the effect on the screen when its on .. and just the knowledge of not having a perfect, beautiful infinity display just after 3 weeks of having the phone is making me cry. And yes, I know i could use a screen protector .. I've tried those, and none of them suited me, first (samsung original) was not compatible with the case, and next two (wet application) ruined the screen quality (created that mentioned greasy/grainy effect on the entire screen), and after all the TGP reviews I decide just not to waste money on them, so i decided to go naked screen+case ... Do you think there any hope for me? Any ideas on how to fix it, or if it is even possible? Do You think that i can contact Samsung with a device bought on ebay? I will be grateful for any answer, and sorry if this is not the right place for this kind of thread.
Well it won't be covered udner warranty because it's damage caused by you. It's not a faulty product.
But you can maybe have it repaired by Samsung. They can replace the display with a new one. But this is quite expensive.
Putting a screen protector on might help mask the marks on the screen and make them less noticeable.

Categories

Resources