Any chance Samsung will unlock the bootloaders after ending all support for the S10 series? I think we've already gotten our last software update, and security updates might end after this year.
Samsung had committed to 4-5 years of support, and the S10e was 4 years old this past March. Anyone think there's a chance when they officially end all support they will unlock the bootloader under Right to Repair laws?
Still like this phone as there's not really anything else decent in this size range. Although the new PIxel Fold might fit the bill. My S10e still gets surprisingly pretty good battery life (86% battery health or something).
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Hi!
Well, I got a Samsung Galaxy S4 as a gift and as much as I appreciate it, I'm not a fan of the Samsung brand because of their build quality (it improved in those 2014-end devices but I'm talking about the GS4). The GS4 is being sold by the main stores at 399€ so I'm planning to sell it for 320€/350€, buy the OnePlus One and even buy a case/skin for it.
Well, trading the GS4 for the OPO is a no brainer but I am thinking in selling the GS4, get the money and save it to spend it later on a better 2015 phone.
What should I do? Should I buy the OPO, should I buy another device or should I wait? I would buy the OPO without a doubt if it was some months before but after hearing all the confusion between OnePlus and Cyanogen, CM12s being promised to around this date and still being unreleased... Should I wait for a possible "OnePlus Two"? Should I buy a Nexus device? (I currently own a Galaxy Nexus)
I need some advice
You won't get $350 for your s4, check swappa.com for me easy place to sell and to get a realistic idea of what you'll get for yours. I've had a lot of phones and the 1+1 is far and away my favorite. Dev community is excellent, hardware is top notch, great speakers, beautiful screen, awesome battery life, it's really does everything perfectly. How long do you typically keep your devices, though? If you want to keep your next phone for more than a year, I'd say to wait and see what 2015 flagships bring.
Without a doubt if your interested, buy the phone! I've recently bought a Nexus 6 and the OPO is still one of my favorite phones of all time even compared to the Nexus 6!
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You won't get $350 for your s4, check swappa.com for me easy place to sell and to get a realistic idea of what you'll get for yours. I've had a lot of phones and the 1+1 is far and away my favorite. Dev community is excellent, hardware is top notch, great speakers, beautiful screen, awesome battery life, it's really does everything perfectly. How long do you typically keep your devices, though? If you want to keep your next phone for more than a year, I'd say to wait and see what 2015 flagships bring.
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Nah man, I can sell it for 350/320€ without a problem. Here in Portugal mobile contracts are rare, 95% of the population buys the phones carrier locked (which means we can only use that carrier's SIM cards in our phones) and the devices are expensive. GS4 is being sold at 399€ new in the big carriers so I can sure sell it for less 50 or 80 euros.
I have my Galaxy Nexus for almost 3 years and I don't change my devices often, maybe 3 to 4 years. I also can't spend over 500€ on a device so I don't have wallet for a HTC or a LG or a high end Samsung (even though they aren't the best price/quality choices, I'm just stating xd).
I would be sad if I bought the OnePlus One today and June or July comes and "OnePlus Two" comes at the same price, with better specs and the CM12s. But I don't also want to wait until OnePlus decides do reveal or not a new device. That's why I'm asking here, to know the thoughts of the ones who bought the OPO since they sure are better informed than me.
Definitely get it. I had motorola, samsung, nexus etc I even had the LG G3 before coming to the 1+. I love it, hands down the best phone I have owned and I wouldn't get rid of it till it is properly dead.
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I would be sad if I bought the OnePlus One today and June or July comes and "OnePlus Two" comes at the same price, with better specs and the CM12s. But I don't also want to wait until OnePlus decides do reveal or not a new device. That's why I'm asking here, to know the thoughts of the ones who bought the OPO since they sure are better informed than me.
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Well then you will be sad:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile-phones/oneplus-two/22384/oneplus-two-release-date-specs-rumours
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Well then you will be sad:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile-phones/oneplus-two/22384/oneplus-two-release-date-specs-rumours
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I wouldn't be sad, theres always going to be the 'next' follow up phone, even if you buy the 'newest' it doesnt take long for a successor to come along or at least the rumours. With the Oneplus One you are still getting great value for money, stable CM11S, CM12S due shortly (definitely), along with OxygenOS and lot of other custom ROMs to pick from. Not to mention the obvious like nexus-easy bootloader unlock and root.
You can also now get a OPO relatively easy, plenty of invites knocking about or just purchase directly every Tuesday. I imagine its going to be pretty hard to get hold of an invite for the Oneplus Two when its released, as I'm guessing it will be invite only for the first while, so factor that into your thoughts around waiting time/availabilty.
I've had the Galaxy S4, HTC One M8 and Nexus 5 all within the last 5 months and overall the OPO is better than them all. Theres no added bloat, no difficulty/warranty issues unlocking the bootloader, solid stock CM and as many custom ROMs as you like and the battery life is fantastic. In terms of the nexus 5, its basically a nexus 6 for those who were underwhelmed by the nexus 6, in terms of large (without being too large) screen, great battery life (non 2k screen), decent camera and very reasonable price.
With so many people needing to replace their motherboards, even in the Note Edge XDA forum and across other forums, well, everywhere, does anyone else think this could possibly be planned obsolescence on the part of Samsung?
Is it possible they have deliberately designed them to fail after a set period of time (This mostly occurs after the warranty period has ended) ?
I could understand if this was an issue due to numerous rom installs etc but it is also happening to people who have never rooted or flashed their phones.
I thought it was only happening to Note 4's but was thinking of buying a new Note Edge as I like the design and only want a phone with the stylus and a removable battery. So I had a look at the Note Edge forum on XDA. The same issue is happening with their phones too. I raised this issue with Samsung and when they advised it would cost me over $400 AU to replace the motherboard I was not impressed.
It would be more palatable to think it was an issue with the design of the phone but for it to almost always happen after the warranty period has expired... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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With so many people needing to replace their motherboards, even in the Note Edge XDA forum and across other forums, well, everywhere, does anyone else think this could possibly be planned obsolescence on the part of Samsung?
Is it possible they have deliberately designed them to fail after a set period of time (This mostly occurs after the warranty period has ended) ?
I could understand if this was an issue due to numerous rom installs etc but it is also happening to people who have never rooted or flashed their phones.
I thought it was only happening to Note 4's but was thinking of buying a new Note Edge as I like the design and only want a phone with the stylus and a removable battery. So I had a look at the Note Edge forum on XDA. The same issue is happening with their phones too. I raised this issue with Samsung and when they advised it would cost me over $400 AU to replace the motherboard I was not impressed.
It would be more palatable to think it was an issue with the design of the phone but for it to almost always happen after the warranty period has expired... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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That's why I hate updates.
They usually add butt loads of bloatware and drive your phone nuts.
The harder it works, the faster it burns out.
o0o.paw said:
With so many people needing to replace their motherboards, even in the Note Edge XDA forum and across other forums, well, everywhere, does anyone else think this could possibly be planned obsolescence on the part of Samsung?
Is it possible they have deliberately designed them to fail after a set period of time (This mostly occurs after the warranty period has ended) ?
I could understand if this was an issue due to numerous rom installs etc but it is also happening to people who have never rooted or flashed their phones.
I thought it was only happening to Note 4's but was thinking of buying a new Note Edge as I like the design and only want a phone with the stylus and a removable battery. So I had a look at the Note Edge forum on XDA. The same issue is happening with their phones too. I raised this issue with Samsung and when they advised it would cost me over $400 AU to replace the motherboard I was not impressed.
It would be more palatable to think it was an issue with the design of the phone but for it to almost always happen after the warranty period has expired... if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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Bought the phone in late 2014. Still working fine and no issues on the MB side. Althogh i had to change the batteries 5-6 times during this period.
I received an update from Samsung. They've asked me to drop it off at a kiosk or service centre and the they will have a look at it so see if it is an issue with the motherboard (which it definitely is). If it is they "may provide me with a remedy". Not sure what that means but I am just happy they have said they will have a look at it
Thought I'd add, they know I bought the phone second hand so I wasn't sure if they'd even look at it. Really impressed with the service even if they don't repair it.
I just hope they don't offer me a newer Note, I just want my phone fixed. I'd hate a phone without a removable battery.
Keep Us Updated (or me), every detail. I know that its like pulling teeth to get a repair person to divulge details.... Would love to have a newer Note or even replacement.
My MB died due to too many apps 400+ and running very hot for 1 year. So be warned do not run it HOT. Replaced with new MB costing £150 in UK.
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Keep Us Updated (or me), every detail. I know that its like pulling teeth to get a repair person to divulge details.... Would love to have a newer Note or even replacement.
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Samsung did agree to replace the motherboard, the only issue I had was I had purchased the note second hand and didn't have proof of purchase. I'd taken it into the Samsung kiosk and they determined it was a motherboard issue. It had actually turned off and would only boot into the Samsung recovery when I took it in.
About a week before this I had to call an ambulance urgently and the phone froze three times. I had to keep taking the battery out. I finally got through. I pointed out to Samsung that a family member could have died from this. That may have swayed them a little but again as I had purchased it second hand they would not touch it. The guy at the kiosk said it was because it could have been stolen, so yeh on top of me freaking out because I was trying to call an ambulance they then made me feel like I was a thief. No it was not stolen, in fact I also have a note 4 that I bought brand new but I gave my daughter that one when her Sony phone died.
I ended up buying a Note Edge second hand again as a new one was going to take up to November to get here (unless I paid a stupid amount of money for delivery and even then it could have taken 4 weeks). I'll end up buying a new motherboard if this one dies too, hell I may even just order one when I have the money so I have it spare.
BTW the Note Edge is way more awesome than the Note 4.
I now have a new battery cover, a fake Samsung battery cover case thing and a few screen protectors on the way, I don't think they are glass and the glass ones on eBay are a rip off. I'll be able to charge the phone on my Samsung note 3 dock and the spare battery at the same time. When I have some spare $ I'll grab another spare battery (I like to have 3 batteries in case one starts to swell and die).
I would have taken this further due to not being able to call the ambulance but our consumer laws say that you must have proof of purchase, besides I'm visiting the hospital every day working full time and trying to do the family house work & cooking so I don't have enough time. I'm also still really shaken up by what happened so it's probably better that I let it go.
hey,
I am getting a refurbished s8+ for 33000 rupees (nearly 500$), should I buy it or wait for s9+ which is gonna cost about double the amt in my country
Do u guys think the diff will be worth it. I can even go for a OP5t.....
Is it a good buy for long term daily usage and hows the battery life and performance nowadays..ie after daily usage of months
Thanks in advance for ur replies
Samsung dont give a s for the customers and software support. Keep that in mind, S8 is already old device, they even work on s10. Battery life is pretty sad on me, but seems like the rest here have good battery life. I would say op5 or S9+ but....The first phones may be full of bugs.
Until S9 is released we don't no for certain what differences there are.
Going from rumours and leaks it would seem to be a small incremental change. although has dual camera lenses I believe.
Unless you have plenty of money to spend on a phone or must have latest Samsung phone then provided the "refurbished" S8 is in good condition it would seem good value at half price.
That said, usually there are plenty of new phone (last year flagship S8) available at much reduced price when new model is released) that may be a good buy.
Have you considered S8+, it's virtually identical apart from slightly larger screen.
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Get it. It's a great device with pretty great battery life, at least for me. No point of getting S9 for double the price.
Thanks guys for ur inputs.
That dual cam and all is just a gimmick for me
The thing i would be looking at is the cpu efficiency improvements and the stereo speakers
But I think maybe those alone do not justify the price bump... Thinking of finally going with the s8+ and here in India samsung themselves are provding refurbished phobes with 6 months manufaturer warranty...so yeah should not be a issue
Thanks again for those who helped me out
I am looking at purchasing a new phone to replace my Samsung Galaxy S5 and do not want to deal with anymore Knox BS. I been reading up on phones that do not void warranty for rooting. If I am going to buy a new phone I want it to last me several years and so have opted for the Snapdragon 845 and hopefully a nice bright display that can be seen pretty well in the sun.
So I wanted to ask this of you all that have used it or compared it to other phones would you say the Oneplus 6 phone is the best phone to get at this time that can also be rooted without voiding warranty. I know other brands like Xiaomi or Moto also provide warranty after rooting but what is your opinion?
I skipped the Pixel 2 as it has such a small screen and cost several hundred dollars more as I prefer to be at least in the 6" screen size.
Yes. You'll have a lot of change to deal with, but yes.
It's a great phone, never heard of someone being disappointed by it. Unfortunately it's turning OnePlus into a meme now so they're probably going to be the next Samsung... anyway that'll probably be several phone iterations away.
Thanks for the information. Yeah I hope it does not turn into another Samsung in the future!
Thanks for the information!
Hello guys!
Do you have the problem like I do that I really would like to buy a fresh, new, fast phone with a new original battery, but looking at the current market I can not find any that suits to me? I am not talking about poor performance or lack of choice, but size... I'm really not interested in those enourmous 6"-6.5" phones because that big size is not comfortable for me, even though I have big hands.
Where is the era of 5"-5.8" phones gone? Do you think the large phones trend will ever stop?
In my situation I'm trying to look at used phones market, but this is also super problematic. If I find a used 5.5" device that suits me, it's battery is pretty much dead. I could buy a new battery and replace it without a problem, but there is no way I can find an original/genuine battery that will have a reasonable and solid life time. This is pathetic I think the dying 2-years batteries is the main trick that corporations use today to force us to change phone every 2-3 years ?
Do you feel me?
Well the way I've decided to combat this is by subscribing to Samsungs access program where I pay like 40 a month and in 9 months I can upgrade to the note 21 or S21 (if I choose to switch). I had the note 9 for 2 years and what I've noticed is I refuse to outright sell my phones for cheap rates after dropping 1200 plus on it. So now I've accumulated phones over the years since Samsung switched up and stopped allowing the early upgrade program with carriers. I got stuck with an s7 plus and 2 note 9s that are just collecting dust. I'm not selling either one for a few hundred dollars. And with insurance from Verizon, if anything happens to my phone I can just get a refurbished one sent to me and then I'll just trade that one back in when I'm ready to upgrade next year. This way I get the fresh new flagships every year and stop accumulating phones. The only downside is the fact that I wanted a phone with dual sim capabilities but Samsung only sells single sim in the US. I guess you can't have it all. Hopefully they eventually fix this issue and provide esim and/or dual sim capable phones in the future.
Now as far as smaller phones, I am not too sure. I believe all the major brands now have been offering smaller variations like the s20 e or fe or whatever its called. The only downside to this is I believe although they are cheaper then the full size flagships, they sadly do have less features and/or tech such as the cameras.
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