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I changed from a SE p1i to a HTC Touch Pro. In terms of phone easiness and functionalities I lost a lot but in terms of HW I though I gained a lot. However I started to realise that although it has HSDPA and HSUPA the internet over 3G was very, very slow. I sent it to repair and come exactly the same. The best speed I can get is 61Kbps DL when 3G provides 384Kbps and HSDPA 7.2Mbps. Since the latency is very very high, I cannot get the complete rendering of a complex page if the http server gives time-out too early. Using the PC with the VPN is a nightmare.
A friend of mine that is a radio engineer in Nokia told me that this is a "well know problem of Windows Mobile that cannot cipher/decipher the 3G radio packets in real time". I searched on the internet and couldn't find nothing however I tried several HTC and Samsung phones with Windows Mobile, on several operators and countries and all are very very slow. And comparing them with the SE pi1 that worked like a clock... until it broke :-D
Henrique
I think you will find you are getting 61 kiloBYTES per second which equates to 488 Kbps, I use it with VPN and it's great, how are you connecting your PC to your phone, hopefully not via internet connection sharing or it will fail the VPN security check and boot you off quickly
Hi Everyone,
I too was noticing speed issues and they are for sure there. People on these boards have been seeing upto 2Mbit downloads speeds so it can be done. As my sig shows I got 1.7Mbit with 1-2 "H" bars.
I loaded a new radio on mine and that seemed to almost double my bandwidth, I was using the standard .32 radio and was getting around 600 to 700Kbit and then switched to the .28 radio and was getting 1100 to 1300Kbit. Only do your speed tests by tether unless you feel you have a good mobile website to do your testing. I was using www.dslreports.com/mspeed but the results are junk, theirs servers are not able to supply enough bandwidth for a good test.
Secondly I installed a new ROM, specifically I am using NATF's 2.3. This will make the phone way faster in terms of performance. It also allows me to tether via the USB and use my VPN without any problems.
I have an AT&T data card for my laptop (it's a work thing) and I get equal coverage/speed on the fuze as I do on this dedicated device, that is without the radio change that is.
Give the above items a try, the information for making the changes can be found in the ROM development area
Thanks All
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I used GoToMyHelp.com to make the test and provide me the results in both Kbps and KBps... 7.6KBps they said... GPRS speed.
With 3G only the results vary from 17Kbps to 60Kbps, when I turn HSDPA on I always get 61Kbps... looks like the phone cannot handle more than one major WCDMA code with the most robust and slowest modulation code...
But if people reported higher speeds then it means I really have an HW problem and so I have to insist with the service centre... I guess...
Henrique
But...
Although from the comments received looks like the problem is more acute on my device I tried a Samsung with Windos Mobile 6.1 and it is as slow as mine... I think it is too much coincidence.
Does anyone has any information regarding the so called "well known limitation of the cipher/deciphering in real time of windows mobile?
Thanks for any feedback...
Henrique
i get from 800kpb - 1000
never tested upload.
is tehre another test?
I only trust speedtest.net through a hardline tether (not bt) for speed test results. This moves as much processing power as possible from the phone to a full fledged computer, reducing such variables as screen drawing speed, free memory, cpu utilization, etc.
I find the fuze to perform almost exactly in line with my 881u (best speed ive seen on that is just over 2400 down, 900 up) - the only discernable difference is latency, slightly better on 881u (which is to be expected as there isnt ICS running as a proxy in such a situation)
As to the fastest speed you'll see on the device itself, I have not been able to clock over 1700 on speedtest.net running in flash lite 3.1 in opera mobile on my wifi, where i score 5500+ on the computer, so i think testing via phone's browser is not a very good measurement.
I don't know, I just switched my Settings > Phone > Band to GSM to see if it saves substantial battery, opposed to the 3G and even further "H" icon HSxPA I was using before.
The "E" icon GSM-Edge doesn't seem to slow down my Google Maps updates very much.
Thanks
Thank you all for sharing your experience.
The tests I made were using the phone as a modem via USB, so the processing on the phone was at a minimum.
The site I indicated before, GoToMyHelp.com, is used by a Firefox extension I have. After trying several sites this was the one that always gave me the best perceptible match between the browsing experience and the measured figures...
Now comes the hard part to convince the customer services that the phone has problems...
Henrique
I think I have the same problem. I am getting crazy low speeds on G and H, 30Kbit/sec and 60 Kbit/sec respectively. I have tried various tweaks found on the forums, I've flashed a couple of cooked roms and various radios but can't get it any higher. I've tried the SIM in the wifes iphone so I am sure that it's not a problem with that.
Let us know how you get on, are you going to call HTC direct or go through the company you bought it from?
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I think I have the same problem. I am getting crazy low speeds on G and H, 30Kbit/sec and 60 Kbit/sec respectively. I have tried various tweaks found on the forums, I've flashed a couple of cooked roms and various radios but can't get it any higher. I've tried the SIM in the wifes iphone so I am sure that it's not a problem with that.
Let us know how you get on, are you going to call HTC direct or go through the company you bought it from?
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im getting 820kb/s in a suburaban area. It works great. Did you enable HSPDA. AT&T turns HSPDA by default (probobly to save bandwidth). All you have to do is fix it...im not sure how search the forum. I am using DA_G Clean fuze rom and it has it built into the ROM
OMG i just tethered my PC and I got some crazy speeds
And that was the lowest one. It went all the way up to 1900..obviously it flutuates a lot but it is still leveling off around 15k....which is crazy because I only have TWO bars!
this is my home
Its crazy that my phone gets speeds half as fast as my DSL and it only has two bars and im in the suburbs!
i tried iphonespeedtest.com on 1.07 proven and got about 400 at highest
tried it when i used his 1.08 i got 1200 kbps
its sick
Northern VA area
Is it possible that while tethered the phone is capable of more data throughput that isn't possible while browsing on the phone? Similar to the problem of encrypted WiFi being slow due to the processor load of encrypting and decrypting data.
From a technical standpoint when you're tethered all the phone does is pass data from the 3G connection to the USB port. The only processing needed is basic lower level networking to re-address the data packets to a new port, thus the processor has a low load and can dedicate more cycles to simply moving data. The phone can focus all of it's power on getting the fastest connection with the 3G tower.
But when you browse on the phone the processor needs to terminate the data packet and unload it into a program. On top of that even more processor power goes towards running the program itself that is using the data. Since the processor is busy multitasking by running a program, terminating data packets, and trying to maintain a connection with the 3G tower, it's more likely to drop packets or lose it's connection.
This would also explain why you lose that weak 3G connection and drop to EDGE when you open a program that has high processor demands.
hey there,
vodafone got an offer of 3 gb traffic limit and download rated up to 3,6 mbit/s. a friend of mine said something like "woah, this is slow like cr*p..." so...can you compare phone internet with the "normal" pc internet in case of downloadspeed??
I've spent days searching the internet, google, xda, several different droid forums, but I can't find a real answer to my issue...
The speed test results on my tablet are absolutely horrible. Is there any way to actually increase the DL speed at all?
I've got a pretty cheap tablet. It's a 7"Craig model CMP741e running ICS 4.0.3 AnTuTu rating 4217 (CVS Cyber Monday special).
Connectivity is a non-issue. I was connecting to my home wifi network at 65Mbps. After fiddling with my router (FiOS supplied ActionTec) and changing my broadcast channel as well as disabling "compatibility mode" to run in n only, I was able to boost that connection to 150Mbps (signal strength dropped slightly from about -45dbi to about -50dbi). Streaming media files via LAN improved, but there was no impact whatsoever on actual internet performance.
On my wireless PC I'm getting about 27M down/ 5M up acc. to Speedtest.net. While sitting right beside that computer I test my tablet and the best I'm getting is an average of about 3-4M down (peak about 12M) and a steady 5M up.
An suggestions for squeezing some more speed out of my tablet? Internet surfing is brutally slow. I get TONS of lag and ANR errors. I've tried a couple different browsers (ICS stock browser, dolphin, and chrome) but the results are always the same. I also get a ton of ANRs in the Play Store and in a lot of games.
The tablet came factory rooted, but I haven't experimented yet with any custom ROMs or MODs. I'm a Droid noob, still getting my feet wet.
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I've spent days searching the internet, google, xda, several different droid forums, but I can't find a real answer to my issue...
The speed test results on my tablet are absolutely horrible. Is there any way to actually increase the DL speed at all?
I've got a pretty cheap tablet. It's a 7"Craig model CMP741e running ICS 4.0.3 AnTuTu rating 4217 (CVS Cyber Monday special).
Connectivity is a non-issue. I was connecting to my home wifi network at 65Mbps. After fiddling with my router (FiOS supplied ActionTec) and changing my broadcast channel as well as disabling "compatibility mode" to run in n only, I was able to boost that connection to 150Mbps (signal strength dropped slightly from about -45dbi to about -50dbi). Streaming media files via LAN improved, but there was no impact whatsoever on actual internet performance.
On my wireless PC I'm getting about 27M down/ 5M up acc. to Speedtest.net. While sitting right beside that computer I test my tablet and the best I'm getting is an average of about 3-4M down (peak about 12M) and a steady 5M up.
An suggestions for squeezing some more speed out of my tablet? Internet surfing is brutally slow. I get TONS of lag and ANR errors. I've tried a couple different browsers (ICS stock browser, dolphin, and chrome) but the results are always the same. I also get a ton of ANRs in the Play Store and in a lot of games.
The tablet came factory rooted, but I haven't experimented yet with any custom ROMs or MODs. I'm a Droid noob, still getting my feet wet.
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Seeing that my home connection is 5Mbs down 1Mbs up and its pretty fast. (e.g. HD netflix, facebook in 2 seconds, and good gaming) I'm going to say that your low-cost tablet simply doesn't have the computing power to run all the javascript, render images, and all that rich web content stuff with any reasonable amount of speed.
I used to own a cheap no-name A13 tablet with very similar specs and it was very slow for browsing even though things like netflix worked reasonably well. But now I have a nexus 7 and everything is great.
Pariah5150 said:
I've spent days searching the internet, google, xda, several different droid forums, but I can't find a real answer to my issue...
The speed test results on my tablet are absolutely horrible. Is there any way to actually increase the DL speed at all?
I've got a pretty cheap tablet. It's a 7"Craig model CMP741e running ICS 4.0.3 AnTuTu rating 4217 (CVS Cyber Monday special).
Connectivity is a non-issue. I was connecting to my home wifi network at 65Mbps. After fiddling with my router (FiOS supplied ActionTec) and changing my broadcast channel as well as disabling "compatibility mode" to run in n only, I was able to boost that connection to 150Mbps (signal strength dropped slightly from about -45dbi to about -50dbi). Streaming media files via LAN improved, but there was no impact whatsoever on actual internet performance.
On my wireless PC I'm getting about 27M down/ 5M up acc. to Speedtest.net. While sitting right beside that computer I test my tablet and the best I'm getting is an average of about 3-4M down (peak about 12M) and a steady 5M up.
An suggestions for squeezing some more speed out of my tablet? Internet surfing is brutally slow. I get TONS of lag and ANR errors. I've tried a couple different browsers (ICS stock browser, dolphin, and chrome) but the results are always the same. I also get a ton of ANRs in the Play Store and in a lot of games.
The tablet came factory rooted, but I haven't experimented yet with any custom ROMs or MODs. I'm a Droid noob, still getting my feet wet.
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You didn't search at all obviously so that was a lie or you would have can by zeps 3g supercharger and WiFi fixer it will unlock you phones true pontitial let you get the full speed of your WiFi and it works greater to and as for the lag you need to download set CPU and over clock that sucka don't you EVER EVER EVER EVER LET ANYBODY TELL YOU YOUR TABKET IS TI CHEAP OR CANT DO THAT I'm rocking a verizen fascinate 1ghz proccesor 512 mb or ram and it can beat the galaxy note in quadrant scores just with a few tweaks its Also running android 4.2.2 ITS NEVER THE HARDWARE ITS THE SOFTWARE PUT A CUSTOM ROM AND WITH EHNOUGH FORCE YOULL BE SMOKING THE GALAXY TAB
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You didn't search at all obviously so that was a lie or you would have can by zeps 3g supercharger and WiFi fixer it will unlock you phones true pontitial let you get the full speed of your WiFi and it works greater to and as for the lag you need to download set CPU and over clock that sucka don't you EVER EVER EVER EVER LET ANYBODY TELL YOU YOUR TABKET IS TI CHEAP OR CANT DO THAT I'm rocking a verizen fascinate 1ghz proccesor 512 mb or ram and it can beat the galaxy note in quadrant scores just with a few tweaks its Also running android 4.2.2 ITS NEVER THE HARDWARE ITS THE SOFTWARE PUT A CUSTOM ROM AND WITH EHNOUGH FORCE YOULL BE SMOKING THE GALAXY TAB
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For the record, I wasn't lying. My head's spinning from all of the different articles/ threads/ websites I've been reading trying to figure this out. I've found a bunch of different ways to improve wifi range/connection speed, but hadn't found any way to improve internet speed. I'll look up Zeps now.
I completely agree that the vast majority of the time limits are imposed more by inferior software than the hardware itself. This thing has a decent (1.3G) processor and RAM (!G) that's why I figured it should be capable of better performance.
If you decide to use a custom rom like bbrad just suggested look for allwinner a10 roms. Basically your device is a clone of the allwinner a10 base model. If you search around there are tons of these tablets all virtually identical but with different brand names.
@aftermath If I decide to go with a custom ROM I'll keep that advice in mind and look for something A10 specific. For now I'm just trying to figure out how to get the best performance possible out of the stock ROM.
I found the OP for Zep's Supercharger... there sure is a lot of information to digest there, and I'm short on time ATM. I will definitely look into it more tonight after I get my son to bed.
As far as Wifi Fixer, I had run across that in some of my previous searches. It looks like it's more about connectivity than speed. As I stated, connectivity is not an issue. I'm using my tablet at home and have an excellent signal that never drops.
Pariah5150 said:
@aftermath If I decide to go with a custom ROM I'll keep that advice in mind and look for something A10 specific. For now I'm just trying to figure out how to get the best performance possible out of the stock ROM.
I found the OP for Zep's Supercharger... there sure is a lot of information to digest there, and I'm short on time ATM. I will definitely look into it more tonight after I get my son to bed.
As far as Wifi Fixer, I had run across that in some of my previous searches. It looks like it's more about connectivity than speed. As I stated, connectivity is not an issue. I'm using my tablet at home and have an excellent signal that never drops.
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Trust me it sppeds your speeds up it unlocks the N wireless comp ability of your tablet which means better connectivity and your max WiFi speed
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I tried WiFi Fixer, it did nothing for me. I was already on a strong wireless N connection. Still have to look into supercharger. As I said above, I just want to tweak the max possible performance out of my stock ROM before I start messing around with flashing customs. Android is new to me, so I'm going in small steps right now. I'm not in a position to replace my tablet if I brick it.
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I tried WiFi Fixer, it did nothing for me. I was already on a strong wireless N connection. Still have to look into supercharger. As I said above, I just want to tweak the max possible performance out of my stock ROM before I start messing around with flashing customs. Android is new to me, so I'm going in small steps right now. I'm not in a position to replace my tablet if I brick it.
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Cool cool and about the bricking thing I have never heard someone bricking there tablet and having to take it back if you follow the instructions you will never get a brick and if you do its usually as simple as pressing a button to get it back on stock Ron
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wifi
why my wifi is not working corectly i broke every couple of minutes and i must to reset my router?
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why my wifi is not working corectly i broke every couple of minutes and i must to reset my router?
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You should try WiFi Fixer, that's exactly what the app is designed for. Whenever your signal gets weak/ dropped it should reconnect quickly (and could possibly cut down or eliminate the drops altogether). Try it out, hope it helps.
There are tons of threads about improving wifi connection... This thread is about improving internet connection speeds once you already have a good wifi connection.
SetDNS
After poking around some more i ran across the Set DNS app. It seems to have helped quite a bit. Over the last couple hours I've been periodically running speed tests through Dolphin and the stock ICS browser in clusters of 3-5 tests at a time. My results have improved to a pretty steady 11-12M down (from 3-4M) with occasional scores as high as 24M, and peaks pushing 30M (my full network speed). Still haven't really played with the tablet to see how it effects overall performance, but it seems like a pretty good start.
I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
simon.n.jonez said:
I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
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I am struggling with Wifi speeds on mine. I am having to switch to 4g regularly.
I am not too worried yet as I have 8gb data, but eventually i'll be worried as it runs out lol/
The speed tests show a good speed and ping, but it disconnects or slows down/freezes a lot.
I'm waiting on updates.
Thanks for the reply.I get data fine over 4G too.the chappy wifi is annoying as I have wifi everywhere I go...but no 4G signal at home
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... I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.
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Confirmed, same experienced here.
Didn't the z1 have this problem
That may depend on the router or its settings. Had the same "freeze" issue when connected to my AVM 7490 router set to use channel 100 for 5GHz. Ever since I changed it to channel 48 no more such problems so far.
My bluetooth is similarly awful, in both range and functionality.
WiFi constantly drops and freezes, always has a weak connection compared to my other devices.
Sony have always cheaped out on wireless chips for any of its hardware products, especially things like playstation products (PS4 wifi is the worst I've ever seen), but I didn't expect it for a £500 smartphone!
Ditto. Great 4G on a 10GB cap.
But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
Out of various devices it's the only one, and I've had more devices on.
I'll change the chanel, clear dhcp allocations and usual stuff and see if there is any difference
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Mine seems to have sorted itself out.had excellent wifi at home and up the parents.
Yeah for all their positives sony do pass on some crud wifi chips. Ps4 good example.
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
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Swapped it for another router (I got a random duplicate from my isp, glad I kept it) and the problems gone. Mostly. still drops from time to time. but usable
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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It seems to be random. My mate has a launch day model like me, and his WiFi is excellent to his 6 year old Sky wireless G router.
I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
The same thing seems to apply to the Z3. So its a sony thing. My first Z3 the wifi and BT were unusable. 3rd Z3, and wifi is the best I've ever used on a mobile device, and I havent even connected to my AC network yet to try. Bluetooth I've yet to try though.
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I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
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AVM Fritz!Box here, newest model, got it when I moved because I'm on a business contract, even though I didn't want it. Has a multiuser NAS, SmartHome and whatnot, and one app for everything.
But when on WiFi with my MacBook Pro, ping times sometimes go up to over 250 ms, then back down to the usual 12. I have no idea why, it doesn't happen when connected to it via Ethernet. Bandwidth itself never seemed to be an issue though, and the Z3 performs great with it though.
TL;DR: Trying a different router can make a huge difference.
I was having the same wifi issues...my network was saved, I kept re typing my password thinking maybe I entered it in incorrectly but kept getting the "Authentication Failed" message. I was able to get the phone connected to my home wifi buy simply hitting the "Forget" option...then it automatically read the IP address and accessed the network...smh hopefully this helps for Everybody else....or some at least
I have a UK Galaxy S7 and I am wondering if anyone has had any issues with the bluetooth being perhaps a bit low powered. I have a Bose QC35 bluetooth headset and it works perfectly with my iPhone 6. I recently bought an S7 and the range seems to be awful with it cutting out anything more than a meter away. I have tried different orientations and it starts to stutter with my hand over the top of the phone (I assume the antennas location) specifically with it on my left side. I assume this is because the antenna in the Bose Headset is on the right ear cup. I don't have this issue with the iPhone so it must be a problem with the Galaxy S7. I returned the one I bought as I wondered whether my phone was specifically faulty and the issue is just as apparent on the new one. I have rooted my phone so I cant send it back and just wondered if anyone here had any ideas on what might solve it (can I lower the bitrate of the bluetooth compression some how?).
This video demonstrates how awful the stuttering problem is. The phone is within 1m range at all times and this cut out is obviously not acceptable. Here's a demo if it isn't clear.
The youtube embed doesn't seem to work so here: https://youtu.be/4m1G0YXRkLI
same issue still can't find a solution...
i do have the same issue, post about it here :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/galaxy-s7-europe-exynos-bluetooth-range-t3588047
my wifi reception is also bad, i get max 50 mbps on a 1gb fiber connexion, my old s4 is doing everything better and faster than the S7, i don't get it...
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i do have the same issue, post about it here :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/galaxy-s7-europe-exynos-bluetooth-range-t3588047
my wifi reception is also bad, i get max 50 mbps on a 1gb fiber connexion, my old s4 is doing everything better and faster than the S7, i don't get it...
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Ref the WiFi & cell signal I did notice my previous A5 2016 was reporting slightly stronger signals than my new S7. Tried another & it was the same. Weird.
I remember it was worse when I had a back case on it which I later lost getting into the Gear VR & that not accepting one. Not sure what you could use as a reference point though as the 'bar' system is frequently criticised for it's inaccuracies & there are a lot of signal apps out there to choose from.
Ref the WiFi do you have your router transmitting 5Ghz A/C? Only that's where the best speeds would be to be had with the S7 supporting A/C. Using my TP-Link VR600 transmitting a 5Ghz A/C 80 MHz signal referencing the Network Cell Info app I get about -40dBm with 866 Mbps link speed which gives me access to the full 80/20 offering of my fibre. With Wireless N rather than AC & on a 20Mhz 2.4Mhz channel I would be looking at a Link Speed somewhere in the region of 54Mbps. I wonder if that's where you are?
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