Hi All
I changed from a SE p1i to a HTC Touch Pro. In terms of phone easiness and functionalities I lost a lot but in terms of HW I though I gained a lot. However I started to realise that although it has HSDPA and HSUPA the internet over 3G was very, very slow. I sent it to repair and come exactly the same. The best speed I can get is 61Kbps DL when 3G provides 384Kbps and HSDPA 7.2Mbps. Since the latency is very very high, I cannot get the complete rendering of a complex page if the http server gives time-out too early. Using the PC with the VPN is a nightmare.
A friend of mine that is a radio engineer in Nokia told me that this is a "well know problem of Windows Mobile that cannot cipher/decipher the 3G radio packets in real time". I searched on the internet and couldn't find nothing however I tried several HTC and Samsung phones with Windows Mobile, on several operators and countries and all are very very slow. And comparing them with the SE pi1 that worked like a clock... until it broke :-D
Henrique
I think you will find you are getting 61 kiloBYTES per second which equates to 488 Kbps, I use it with VPN and it's great, how are you connecting your PC to your phone, hopefully not via internet connection sharing or it will fail the VPN security check and boot you off quickly
Hi Everyone,
I too was noticing speed issues and they are for sure there. People on these boards have been seeing upto 2Mbit downloads speeds so it can be done. As my sig shows I got 1.7Mbit with 1-2 "H" bars.
I loaded a new radio on mine and that seemed to almost double my bandwidth, I was using the standard .32 radio and was getting around 600 to 700Kbit and then switched to the .28 radio and was getting 1100 to 1300Kbit. Only do your speed tests by tether unless you feel you have a good mobile website to do your testing. I was using www.dslreports.com/mspeed but the results are junk, theirs servers are not able to supply enough bandwidth for a good test.
Secondly I installed a new ROM, specifically I am using NATF's 2.3. This will make the phone way faster in terms of performance. It also allows me to tether via the USB and use my VPN without any problems.
I have an AT&T data card for my laptop (it's a work thing) and I get equal coverage/speed on the fuze as I do on this dedicated device, that is without the radio change that is.
Give the above items a try, the information for making the changes can be found in the ROM development area
Thanks All
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I used GoToMyHelp.com to make the test and provide me the results in both Kbps and KBps... 7.6KBps they said... GPRS speed.
With 3G only the results vary from 17Kbps to 60Kbps, when I turn HSDPA on I always get 61Kbps... looks like the phone cannot handle more than one major WCDMA code with the most robust and slowest modulation code...
But if people reported higher speeds then it means I really have an HW problem and so I have to insist with the service centre... I guess...
Henrique
But...
Although from the comments received looks like the problem is more acute on my device I tried a Samsung with Windos Mobile 6.1 and it is as slow as mine... I think it is too much coincidence.
Does anyone has any information regarding the so called "well known limitation of the cipher/deciphering in real time of windows mobile?
Thanks for any feedback...
Henrique
i get from 800kpb - 1000
never tested upload.
is tehre another test?
I only trust speedtest.net through a hardline tether (not bt) for speed test results. This moves as much processing power as possible from the phone to a full fledged computer, reducing such variables as screen drawing speed, free memory, cpu utilization, etc.
I find the fuze to perform almost exactly in line with my 881u (best speed ive seen on that is just over 2400 down, 900 up) - the only discernable difference is latency, slightly better on 881u (which is to be expected as there isnt ICS running as a proxy in such a situation)
As to the fastest speed you'll see on the device itself, I have not been able to clock over 1700 on speedtest.net running in flash lite 3.1 in opera mobile on my wifi, where i score 5500+ on the computer, so i think testing via phone's browser is not a very good measurement.
I don't know, I just switched my Settings > Phone > Band to GSM to see if it saves substantial battery, opposed to the 3G and even further "H" icon HSxPA I was using before.
The "E" icon GSM-Edge doesn't seem to slow down my Google Maps updates very much.
Thanks
Thank you all for sharing your experience.
The tests I made were using the phone as a modem via USB, so the processing on the phone was at a minimum.
The site I indicated before, GoToMyHelp.com, is used by a Firefox extension I have. After trying several sites this was the one that always gave me the best perceptible match between the browsing experience and the measured figures...
Now comes the hard part to convince the customer services that the phone has problems...
Henrique
I think I have the same problem. I am getting crazy low speeds on G and H, 30Kbit/sec and 60 Kbit/sec respectively. I have tried various tweaks found on the forums, I've flashed a couple of cooked roms and various radios but can't get it any higher. I've tried the SIM in the wifes iphone so I am sure that it's not a problem with that.
Let us know how you get on, are you going to call HTC direct or go through the company you bought it from?
chrisrich said:
I think I have the same problem. I am getting crazy low speeds on G and H, 30Kbit/sec and 60 Kbit/sec respectively. I have tried various tweaks found on the forums, I've flashed a couple of cooked roms and various radios but can't get it any higher. I've tried the SIM in the wifes iphone so I am sure that it's not a problem with that.
Let us know how you get on, are you going to call HTC direct or go through the company you bought it from?
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im getting 820kb/s in a suburaban area. It works great. Did you enable HSPDA. AT&T turns HSPDA by default (probobly to save bandwidth). All you have to do is fix it...im not sure how search the forum. I am using DA_G Clean fuze rom and it has it built into the ROM
OMG i just tethered my PC and I got some crazy speeds
And that was the lowest one. It went all the way up to 1900..obviously it flutuates a lot but it is still leveling off around 15k....which is crazy because I only have TWO bars!
this is my home
Its crazy that my phone gets speeds half as fast as my DSL and it only has two bars and im in the suburbs!
i tried iphonespeedtest.com on 1.07 proven and got about 400 at highest
tried it when i used his 1.08 i got 1200 kbps
its sick
Northern VA area
Is it possible that while tethered the phone is capable of more data throughput that isn't possible while browsing on the phone? Similar to the problem of encrypted WiFi being slow due to the processor load of encrypting and decrypting data.
From a technical standpoint when you're tethered all the phone does is pass data from the 3G connection to the USB port. The only processing needed is basic lower level networking to re-address the data packets to a new port, thus the processor has a low load and can dedicate more cycles to simply moving data. The phone can focus all of it's power on getting the fastest connection with the 3G tower.
But when you browse on the phone the processor needs to terminate the data packet and unload it into a program. On top of that even more processor power goes towards running the program itself that is using the data. Since the processor is busy multitasking by running a program, terminating data packets, and trying to maintain a connection with the 3G tower, it's more likely to drop packets or lose it's connection.
This would also explain why you lose that weak 3G connection and drop to EDGE when you open a program that has high processor demands.
This isnt related to phones but is a computer question as i figured people here would know computers
i was just wondering if it was possible for a wireless G 54MBPS connection could actually get 1.8 MBPS download speed because i cant even get a 1 MBPS with wireless N cards and while downloading a file i hit 1.8 MBPS and i kinda just stared
Have you checked your speed while directly wired to the modem?
good day.
Does anyone know the max transfer speed?
When I check the wireless status, it says Link speed 75mbps and I guess thats what to expect because of single band/antenna on this phone. But when I setup FTP server / client I can only reach 22mbps.
I did some more testing and with another file transfer app.. I got up to 40mbps...
Is this bad?
would be nice to have some kind of reference to other units out there!
Thanks
No, that's not bad. That is the speed you should be expecting. The reason it is not 75mbps as it says is because there is overhead associated with the wireless network. Encryption, for example, takes up a large amount of the bandwidth. Real world results are very different than theoretical.
Sent from my HTC One X
Alright guys, I haven't done a lot of research on this but I'm hoping someone who's already familiar with what I'm dealing with might have an easy answer.
I have been using PDAnet for years, most recently with a Samsung Galaxy S9. When tethered to my PC, the results of Speedtests on my phone and on my PC were comparable, usually identical. If I got 50 down and 25 up on the Speedtest app on the phone, I'd get the same when tethered and testing the speed on a browser.
Well as batteries do, the battery in my Samsung turned into a balloon and it was time for a new phone.
I picked up the Moto One 5G Ace from MetroPCS and I'm stuck with it because the salesman decided not to disclose that it was a final sale and the phone is locked for six months. Literally could not return it the next day.
The issue? Now when I run a Speedtest on the phone, I'm still getting my standard 50 down and 25 up, actually a little better, possibly better tech as it's a newer phone, but when I tether in with PDAnet and then test the speed I get exactly half the download speed, but the same upload speed, so 25 down and 25 up. In order to test if it was possibly a cable issue, USB port issue or anything like that, I switched over to the built in tethering service and suddenly speeds went back to normal, 50 down and 25 up on both phone and PC Speedtests. My theory is that something in the phone is throttling the app itself, but I've got no clue where to start on that. I've gone through some options to make sure the app is not restricted on data and all that jazz, but I might be missing something, or maybe it's something built into the software, would love to hear what you guys think or if anyone has a solution. I live very rural as can be and this is my only access to internet, for me the difference between downloading things at 25 Mbps and 50 Mbps is huge, any help will be greatly appreciated.
As a side note I have switched from PDAnet to Klink and while Klink is a much better service in the way it emulates a traditional internet connection and has allowed me to do things I wasn't able to do on PDAnet, I still have the issue of only getting half the download speed the phone is recognizing.
Thanks for the info on Klink. You saved me $3 versus PDANet. PDANet's popularity seems to bog down their customer service. Looks like the Klink developer is actually reachable if I encounter any issues.
Hi All,
We have had 500mb fibre broadband installed and I don't think my Oppo A54 is getting full speed, every speed test I have done is around 300mb.
I tried on my old Sony Ericsson XZ2 and that achieved 500mb as did my Oculus VR Headset and my Ipad.
Is it just because the phone has a slower WIFI chip or is there a setting somewhere making this happen? I heard about WIFI speed suffering since Android 13....
Thanks,