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[Q] D2G unlocking help

I bought a D2G on eBay and have been trying to unlock it. The guy that i bought it from called Verizon and they gave him 3 unlock codes (all of them were 8 digits long) which didn't work. I then wen to some site where they sell unlock codes and they gave me 2 codes but they were the same as the ones I had from Verizon.
I've been reading around different forums and have seen a lot of people having these same problems and the one common thing I've found between the people that originally had the issue and were able to unlock the phone is that they got a 16 digit unlock code from a 3rd party unlocking site. Does anybody know if all D2Gs use a 16 digit unlock code or are some really using the 8 digit ones?
Also, if anybody had this problem and fixed it by buying an unlock code (or any other way) please tell me which site you bought the codes from. I don't know if posting these sites would be against the forum rules but if it is then please PM me with the URL.
Additionally, I've read from 1 or 2 people that were able to unlock it by using a Turbosim but I haven't found a lot of people commenting on these so I'm still a little skeptical. Does anybody here know if these Turbosims will indeed work with the D2G?
Thank you all in advance for your help.

seems to me that the seller sent u unlock codes from code dealers and not from vz.
for now, turbosim is the answer. it works.

I already ordered a Turbosim last night so I'll reply here once I get it and let you all know how it wnet.
I had a talk with the Verizon people today because I was trying to activate the phone on my sister's account just so I could get the phone unlocked and then switch right back. Long story short, it seems like the reason why the codes didn't work is because I'm outside the US at the moment. I thought that since you can get roaming down here you could also have the phones unlocked while you were here which apparently you can't and that's also why I couldn't activate the phone under her account either.
If the Turbosim doesn't work I'm thinking of sending the phone over to my sister's house in the US so she can get it unlocked and then send it back to me but we'll see how that goes...

Yes, you can't activate while roaming, even if there is a CDMA network where you are. Activation works only on Verizon's own network.
It is good you have an option, I am pretty sure once you activate it on your sister's account unlocking will be sorted out.
As far as TurboSIM goes, reportedly it unlocks the voice part and data works in 2G (not sure why not 3G - is it because of lack of 3G on their operator, or due to TurboSIM - did not become clear. The user reported was from Ukraine. Phone works thinking it is roaming, but the guy says works - both data and voice!)
Please let us know how it goes once you get the turbosim

I will definitely post back here once I get the TurboSIM. One other question though... If I send the phone over to my sister, would she necesarily have to activate it before she unlock is or would the unlock codes work as long as she's within reach of the Verizon network? She could still activate it if necessary but it would be better if she didn't have to go through that process since she won't be keeping the phone.

War-Rasta said:
I bought a D2G on eBay and have been trying to unlock it. The guy that i bought it from called Verizon and they gave him 3 unlock codes (all of them were 8 digits long) which didn't work. I then wen to some site where they sell unlock codes and they gave me 2 codes but they were the same as the ones I had from Verizon.
I've been reading around different forums and have seen a lot of people having these same problems and the one common thing I've found between the people that originally had the issue and were able to unlock the phone is that they got a 16 digit unlock code from a 3rd party unlocking site. Does anybody know if all D2Gs use a 16 digit unlock code or are some really using the 8 digit ones?
Also, if anybody had this problem and fixed it by buying an unlock code (or any other way) please tell me which site you bought the codes from. I don't know if posting these sites would be against the forum rules but if it is then please PM me with the URL.
Additionally, I've read from 1 or 2 people that were able to unlock it by using a Turbosim but I haven't found a lot of people commenting on these so I'm still a little skeptical. Does anybody here know if these Turbosims will indeed work with the D2G?
Thank you all in advance for your help.
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I called VZW on Jan 2011 to unlocked 2 D2G. Both were 8 digit codes and both worked right away. I have used both phones on different networks(GSM) without any issues.

for me, turbosim works just fine.
i had issues with the subsidy lock, left it on error msg for a few hours, and phone went back to regular mode.
still didnt try the 3g, hoping will test with 1 soon.
hopefully one of xda wizz will sort this thing out without needing turbosim and things like that.

War-Rasta said:
I will definitely post back here once I get the TurboSIM. One other question though... If I send the phone over to my sister, would she necesarily have to activate it before she unlock is or would the unlock codes work as long as she's within reach of the Verizon network? She could still activate it if necessary but it would be better if she didn't have to go through that process since she won't be keeping the phone.
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hey War-Rasta, klk?
Looks like we're on the same boat here. My droid 2 global just wont unlock, I keep getting the dreaded "Network unlock request unsuccessful" message. Tell you what though, I ordered two turbo sims about 3 weeks ago from hong kong, they're currently in miami,FL so they'll most likely be here tomorrow. I'll come back and report how it goes as soon as im able to try it.
I also had someone in the US call verizon and they were about to give me the unlock code but unfortunately since the person that was calling VZW for me made the rep think he actually had the phone with him right there, he was asked to dial 226 on his phone and to choose option 1. Ofc that didnt work as im in the DR. Supposedly, option one wouldve given me some sort of code they needed first in order to give me the unlock code.

hey Xtrife. Nice to see a fellow dominican around here. I did get VZW to give me the unlock code and it was one of the same I already had but at least it seems I had the right code and just couldn't unlock it because of where I am.
Do come back to this thread when you get your TurboSIMs and let us know how it goes. Mine should be here sometime next week I think. I ordered mine on eBay from somebody in TX so I didn't have to wait too long for something to get here all the way from Hong Kong. She did say the yare supposed to work for all phones but she said that 3G is not guaranteed so I'm crossing my fingers...
Just out of curiosity, why did you get 3 of them? Do you have 3 different phones to unlock or you're just trying to play it safe in case one doesn't work?

Well seeing as how id have to pay 150 pesos here for the turbosims regardless of the quantity (id assume 10 turbosims would still weigh less than 1 lb ) i decided to order two. I've only got 1 D2G. If the turbosim card does work, wouldnt mind lending one to you until you get yours

That'd be sweet!! Thanks. I'll be waiting for your post here then to see if it worked.

wow so Ive finally got a hold of the Turbosims and i cant seem to be able to fit both my simcard and the turbo sim in the D2G simcard slot lol. Having a hard time here. The turbo sim is mostly flat like a piece of paper but its got a little bump on one of its corners. Its the black version
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:-s let us know if it works then once you cut it. I'll take you on your offer on that other TurboSIM if it does.

Well i think ive finally been able to fit the turbosim + my simcard in there but apparently all its doing is making the phone boot into the bootloader screen, im unable to enter the phone OS in order to check whether the turbosim works or not

It didn't break your phone though, did it? Are you able to boot into the OS if you remove the TurboSIM?

War-Rasta said:
It didn't break your phone though, did it? Are you able to boot into the OS if you remove the TurboSIM?
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BLOODY HELL I tried the second TurboSIM i had ordered and it bloody worked !!! i can confirm both HDSPA AND 3G WORKING OK OH YES
EDIT: this is the link to the one i ordered
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...545050&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_8810wt_905
I actually had to cut part of my simcard, nothing difficult, only used a pair of scissors

Awesome! I guess I'll wait for mine to come in then since the first one you tried was broken. If the one I ordered doesn't work I'll order a few of the same ones you got.

Thanks XtriFe for proving my theory with TurboSIM right!!! Phew!
I wonder if we can fool US band ban with the TurboSIM. I will be testing at first opportunity (as soon as I get a chance to get close to the US border!

XtriFe said:
Well i think ive finally been able to fit the turbosim + my simcard in there but apparently all its doing is making the phone boot into the bootloader screen, im unable to enter the phone OS in order to check whether the turbosim works or not
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You likely damaged the turbosim while trying to fit it (broke a solder point or a trace). That happened to me with one of my turbosims before.

Hey XtriFe, I just got a look at the pictures on that eBay auction you posted and I think we probably got the same one.
Mine's on its way now and should be here on Saturday if everything goes well. I have my finger crossed so I won't break mine since I only ordered one. I'll post back here as soon as I try it.

Verizon’s Galaxy S3 source code

I haven't seen this in the forums yet so figured I'd post it..
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...alaxy-s3-verizon-bootloader-unlocked-code.htm
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=i535

Obviously you didn't look very hard... Probably the fifth time I've seen this posted.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

well excuse me then, go ahead a delete the posting then.

Like I told the other guys, when you start to build a new thread there are suggestions for existing threads. Meaning, you didn't search, you didn't read the suggestions, you didn't so much as look on the forum period.

If the device is rooted why are there no custom roms for the verizon s3? What am I missing, does it have to be unlocked also?

ilogik said:
If the device is rooted why are there no custom roms for the verizon s3? What am I missing, does it have to be unlocked also?
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Very few people have this phone right now. The date for in store sales keeps getting pushed back, and even a lot of pre order dates are getting pushed back. Wait till the phone is more widely available so devs can get their hands on it.
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Is the phone released officially? Nope. Do most dev's even have it yet? Nope. Do dev's build ROM's overnight with a phone they don't have access to? Nope. Chill out!

AtLemacks said:
Is the phone released officially? Nope. Do most dev's even have it yet? Nope. Do dev's build ROM's overnight with a phone they don't have access to? Nope. Chill out!
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Your Verizon S3 bootloader is unlocked?

SpartanG087 said:
Your Verizon S3 bootloader is unlocked?
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As far as we all know the bootloader is locked. But with the developer phone comng out soon and all the devs pissed at verizon tor having it locked it will get unlocked. I have faith in the devs

msnglink said:
As far as we all know the bootloader is locked. But with the developer phone comng out soon and all the devs pissed at verizon tor having it locked it will get unlocked. I have faith in the devs
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That's what I thought, but his signature says Verizon S3 unlocked and rooted
Too bad the dev phone is $600 and I "heard" that phone insurance will not be an option for the dev phone.

SpartanG087 said:
Your Verizon S3 bootloader is unlocked?
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SIM unlocked, I can use a GSM/LTE SIM.
SpartanG087 said:
That's what I thought, but his signature says Verizon S3 unlocked and rooted
Too bad the dev phone is $600 and I "heard" that phone insurance will not be an option for the dev phone.
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Doesn't matter what you "heard" it isn't Verizon that provides the coverage, Asurion does, unless you have it from another source. Verizon has no say in Asurion protecting hardware malfunctions. Verizon may not WARRANTY the device though.

AtLemacks said:
SIM unlocked, I can use a GSM/LTE SIM.
Doesn't matter what you "heard" it isn't Verizon that provides the coverage, Asurion does, unless you have it from another source. Verizon has no say in Asurion protecting hardware malfunctions. Verizon may not WARRANTY the device though.
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how did you sim unlock it?

sid8911 said:
how did you sim unlock it?
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With the code given to me in my pre-order receipt. Since I am the only person in the world who actually read the agreement.

AtLemacks said:
With the code given to me in my pre-order receipt. Since I am the only person in the world who actually read the agreement.
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Did that come in your pre-order email? or the sheet that the phone shipped with?

The agreement page you have to click agree on before actually purchasing.
I didn't mean receipt above, sorry.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

"If you bought a wireless device for Postpay Service from Verizon Wireless that doesn't use a SIM card, and you want to reprogram it for use with another wireless network, the default programming code is set to "000000" or "123456."

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AtLemacks said:
The agreement page you have to click agree on before actually purchasing.
I didn't mean receipt above, sorry.
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Is there any way to find this again if we didn't see it the first time?

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[Completed] New LG G2 phone - this phone is permanently locked and cannot be unlocked

Well as my unfortunate luck has it, I wanted to upgrade my old Nexus 4 to a LG G2 D801 unit. I bought one new-refurbished off ebay and it just arrived recently.
I tried to put in my WIND mobile sim card and realized the phone is not detecting it. After looking into the issue for the majority of the day, it seems that the phone is hard/sim locked.
I went into the area where one would go to unlock the phone, only to be greeted by this unfortunate message.
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Now first thing I did was start searching the interwebz....and I can't seem to find much on this.
I am not sure what I can do. The shipping back to China, well that's out of the question due to the high cost.
I can't use the phone as it's a T-Mobile device.
I can't unlock the phone because it's hard locked.
Is there anything I can do to get it working? Does anybody know how I could possibly reset the counter for this?
Thank you in advance.

mrrhtuner said:
Well as my unfortunate luck has it, I wanted to upgrade my old Nexus 4 to a LG G2 D801 unit. I bought one new-refurbished off ebay and it just arrived recently.
I tried to put in my WIND mobile sim card and realized the phone is not detecting it. After looking into the issue for the majority of the day, it seems that the phone is hard/sim locked.
I went into the area where one would go to unlock the phone, only to be greeted by this unfortunate message.
Now first thing I did was start searching the interwebz....and I can't seem to find much on this.
I am not sure what I can do. The shipping back to China, well that's out of the question due to the high cost.
I can't use the phone as it's a T-Mobile device.
I can't unlock the phone because it's hard locked.
Is there anything I can do to get it working? Does anybody know how I could possibly reset the counter for this?
Thank you in advance.
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Hi and thank you for using XDA Assist
Unfortunally the phone is locked and only the T-Mobile carrier can work on it .
It is locked from factory default state. So there is nothing you can do to unlock it (from what i know).

nilac said:
Hi and thank you for using XDA Assist
Unfortunally the phone is locked and only the T-Mobile carrier can work on it .
It is locked from factory default state. So there is nothing you can do to unlock it (from what i know).
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Hello, thanks for the reply. That's unfortunate for me I guess.
Now when you say, it's locked from the factory default state...If I drive down to the states and buy a T-Mobile LG G2 from the store, would that be also hardlocked?
I am trying to send this phone back to China and I know T-Mobile stores still have the LG G2 as certified pre-owned.

mrrhtuner said:
Hello, thanks for the reply. That's unfortunate for me I guess.
Now when you say, it's locked from the factory default state...If I drive down to the states and buy a T-Mobile LG G2 from the store, would that be also hardlocked?
I am trying to send this phone back to China and I know T-Mobile stores still have the LG G2 as certified pre-owned.
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Yes if you buy another T-Mobile phone, you will stick on T-Mobile only and you will not have the ability to use other carrier other than T on that phone... But you will still be able to Root and make all those stuff but to change carrier will not be able to.
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nilac said:
Yes if you buy another T-Mobile phone, you will stick on T-Mobile only and you will not have the ability to use other carrier other than T on that phone... But you will still be able to Root and make all those stuff but to change carrier will not be able to.
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Thank you Nilac.
I am a bit confused. The phone I received, it seems like the SIM code unlock was entered 10 times wrong and thus is why the phone is hard locked to T-mobile now.
If I buy a phone from the T-Mobile store, it will be hardlocked also? I don't understand why it would be, since many people have those phones unlocked?

mrrhtuner said:
Thank you Nilac.
I am a bit confused. The phone I received, it seems like the SIM code unlock was entered 10 times wrong and thus is why the phone is hard locked to T-mobile now.
If I buy a phone from the T-Mobile store, it will be hardlocked also? I don't understand why it would be, since many people have those phones unlocked?
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Unlocked but not "Unlocked" from carrier they still stick with that carrier.
If you are looking for example on the S6 forum you will see that there are separated forums for Verizon, T-Mobile etc... They are separated because the phone is not exactly the same as the international model as the carrier modified it, so a separated development needs to be done for that phone.....
You simply cannot uncarrier (from what i know) only if you took your phone to a professional guy who is super expert and can do it, but from what i know it's impossible to uncarrier a phone.... Better always to get an international one in order to avoid these problems

nilac said:
Unlocked but not "Unlocked" from carrier they still stick with that carrier.
If you are looking for example on the S6 forum you will see that there are separated forums for Verizon, T-Mobile etc... They are separated because the phone is not exactly the same as the international model as the carrier modified it, so a separated development needs to be done for that phone.....
You simply cannot uncarrier (from what i know) only if you took your phone to a professional guy who is super expert and can do it, but from what i know it's impossible to uncarrier a phone.... Better always to get an international one in order to avoid these problems
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I think maybe I confused you or myself.
The T-Mobile LG G2 will work on the AWS frequency that I require here in Canada for WIND mobile.
If the phone is locked to T-mobile, I could use a service online, provide them the IMEI and the network the phone came from and then I would be given the unlock code to allow the phone to read a SIM card other then T-Mobile.
Example video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4ru062k_M
Notice when he puts in the prompt to get to the network settings, he can put in a PIN. When I tried that, I get the locked message.

mrrhtuner said:
I think maybe I confused you or myself.
The T-Mobile LG G2 will work on the AWS frequency that I require here in Canada for WIND mobile.
If the phone is locked to T-mobile, I could use a service online, provide them the IMEI and the network the phone came from and then I would be given the unlock code to allow the phone to read a SIM card other then T-Mobile.
Example video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m4ru062k_M
Notice when he puts in the prompt to get to the network settings, he can put in a PIN. When I tried that, I get the locked message.
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Ahh, yes i remember that i saw it also on Samsung Updates, a section where to unlock it....
Well it remains to you just to try then

Could a kind soul please confirm if my bootloader is locked?

i know some one will say search or some such but i have and right now am so tired and exhausted so please, if someone could just confirm it the bootloader is locked or if im just being tired and stupid and missing something
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The device says locked, so yes the bootloader is locked. That information at the very last line is referring to your bootloader.

mikeprius said:
The device says locked, so yes the bootloader is locked. That information at the very last line is referring to your bootloader.
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Thank you, so that means no fast oem unlock and then rooting, correct? there is no easy bootloader unlocking is there?

mark2410 said:
so that means no fast oem unlock and then rooting, correct? there is no easy bootloader unlocking is there?
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Correct if you have the Verizon version. Not correct if you bought your phone from Google. That screen just means that your bootloader is currently locked. But it's trivial to unlock (and then root, if desired), as long as you don't have the Verizon version.

mikeprius said:
The device says locked, so yes the bootloader is locked. That information at the very last line is referring to your bootloader.
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Correct if you have the Verizon version. Not correct if you bought your phone from Google. That screen just means that your bootloader is currently locked. But it's trivial to unlock (and then root, if desired), as long as you don't have the Verizon version.
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well..... neither. i in the UK and i got it from CEX so, basically second hand but still a shop so it can be returned if i cant unlock it. I have tried unlocking the bootloader but have been unable and as i not done it since my nexus 5 i can tell im so tired that if ive just missed soemthing silly or i cant unlock its bootloader. "Enable OEM Unlock" is greyed out in the dev menu

mark2410 said:
Thank you, so that means no fast oem unlock and then rooting, correct? there is no easy bootloader unlocking is there?
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No. the idea of having a locked bootloader is so your phone is protected from the get-go. If you could unlock it and root it then the bootloader would be useless.
If you have been trying to unlock it and haven't been able to 1 of 2 (or possibly both issues) are present:
1. You have Verizon and they have updated the patch so Verizon users are not able to unlock unless a new exploit comes out.
2. You do not have fastboot and/or your phone drivers are not working, so fastboot is not properly working on your computer.
3. Both 1 & 2.

mark2410 said:
well..... neither. i in the UK and i got it from CEX so, basically second hand but still a shop so it can be returned if i cant unlock it. I have tried unlocking the bootloader but have been unable and as i not done it since my nexus 5 i can tell im so tired that if ive just missed soemthing silly or i cant unlock its bootloader. "Enable OEM Unlock" is greyed out in the dev menu
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What version is the software? If it is 7.1.1 you are done. If it is 7.1 you can use depixel8 on it.

mark2410 said:
well..... neither. i in the UK and i got it from CEX so, basically second hand but still a shop so it can be returned if i cant unlock it. I have tried unlocking the bootloader but have been unable and as i not done it since my nexus 5 i can tell im so tired that if ive just missed soemthing silly or i cant unlock its bootloader. "Enable OEM Unlock" is greyed out in the dev menu
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I'm not sure what that means with it being greyed out. I've seen others with that issue. Here in the United States that's not a problem, so it's likely something with the UK or carrier, or something else. I don't know any information beyond that.
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TonikJDK said:
What version is the software? If it is 7.1.1 you are done. If it is 7.1 you can use depixel8 on it.
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He's in the UK. Verizon depixel8 is not applicable.

mikeprius said:
He's in the UK. Verizon depixel8 is not applicable.
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It is an EE phone, that is what CEX has been selling. So yes depixel8 is applicable.

mikeprius said:
No. the idea of having a locked bootloader is so your phone is protected from the get-go. If you could unlock it and root it then the bootloader would be useless.
If you have been trying to unlock it and haven't been able to 1 of 2 (or possibly both issues) are present:
1. You have Verizon and they have updated the patch so Verizon users are not able to unlock unless a new exploit comes out.
2. You do not have fastboot and/or your phone drivers are not working, so fastboot is not properly working on your computer.
3. Both 1 & 2.
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2 well peretty sure it was working fine, could use adb to find the device and reboot the phone no problem so no driver issues im aware of
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What version is the software? If it is 7.1.1 you are done. If it is 7.1 you can use depixel8 on it.
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tried it did not work, ran, then would fail after a little bit, it is on 7.1.1
tbh im pretty sure its one thats come from EE so basically the same thing as verizon but the UK version of the devil in telco form. i think im just going to ahve te suck it up and pay the ridiculous price google want for one from them directly

mark2410 said:
2 well peretty sure it was working fine, could use adb to find the device and reboot the phone no problem so no driver issues im aware of
tried it did not work, ran, then would fail after a little bit, it is on 7.1.1
tbh im pretty sure its one thats come from EE so basically the same thing as verizon but the UK version of the devil in telco form. i think im just going to ahve te suck it up and pay the ridiculous price google want for one from them directly
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Yea, you are done as far as unlocking is concerned. Sorry man.

TonikJDK said:
Yea, you are done as far as unlocking is concerned. Sorry man.
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np, oh well now if i can just go back in time two weeks and just order one from google because of course now they are currently out of stock. :crying:
why the FFFFFFFFFF do networks lock the f ing bootloader of a bloody device that the point of is that its not full of network shi..... poo???

mark2410 said:
np, oh well now if i can just go back in time two weeks and just order one from google because of course now they are currently out of stock. :crying:
why the FFFFFFFFFF do networks lock the f ing bootloader of a bloody device that the point of is that its not full of network shi..... poo???
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In the United States most of the major networks would subsidize or pay for some type of incentive for users to use their networks. They have an interest in keeping the users on their network and prevent taking the device to another network esp after paying incentives for it. I have an old Nexus 6 that Sprint paid for that I got at a very low price that is network locked to Sprint despite it being a global compatible network device.

mikeprius said:
In the United States most of the major networks would subsidize or pay for some type of incentive for users to use their networks. They have an interest in keeping the users on their network and prevent taking the device to another network esp after paying incentives for it. I have an old Nexus 6 that Sprint paid for that I got at a very low price that is network locked to Sprint despite it being a global compatible network device.
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well no, people still pay for the device they just two it over 2 years rather than upfront. but anyway my point was more that people wanting to a buy a pixel probably want to becaues they dont want the networks to have enhanced / ruined it.
im just annoyed that i now have to go return the thing and waste half a day

mark2410 said:
well no, people still pay for the device they just two it over 2 years rather than upfront. but anyway my point was more that people wanting to a buy a pixel probably want to becaues they dont want the networks to have enhanced / ruined it.
im just annoyed that i now have to go return the thing and waste half a day
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You are referring to either a payment plan or leasing which is different. In the past carriers used to offer 2 yr contracts which immediately subsidized the phone's entire cost. The Nexus 6 I was able to get brand new under $200 because of this. Verizon is packing in credit over 24 months, but this is still money that is being used as a subsidy.
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/11/22/verizon-black-friday-deals-pixel-xl/
Anyways good luck with the phone

AT&T Pixel 4 XL Has a Locked Bootloader

Here is a screenshot from the Developer options. Now we know.
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Time to wait to see if we can unlock this bad boy unofficially. The wait begins.

Ya T-Mobile also

Again, unless I'm completely off, it makes perfect sense that that switch is disabled. Until you fully pay for the device, I wouldn't allow it either. It may still not work, but that certainly explains why it doesn't, now. Carrier lock = sim lock. Unlock the sim, you unlock the carrier. No carrier lock, voila.

ZeroKool76 said:
gain, unless I'm completely off, it makes perfect sense that that switch is disabled. Until you fully pay for the device, I wouldn't allow it either. It may still not work, but that certainly explains why it doesn't, now. Carrier lock = sim lock. Unlock the sim, you unlock the carrier. No carrier lock, voila.
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This for Bootloader unlocking, not carrier unlocking.

I remember my Nexus 6 on at&t had a unlocked bootloader

Zero is right, the OEM unlock switch will be grayed out on most carrier locked devices irregardless of whether the bootloader can be unlocked until the carried lock is removed.

KillerBytes said:
Here is a screenshot from the Developer options. Now we know.
Time to wait to see if we can unlock this bad boy unofficially. The wait begins.
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It's ATT. Did you really expect it to be unlocked?
Pay it off. Get sim unlock. Get bootloader unlock.
I'll have mine paid off in less than a month. Then we will know.

antiochasylum said:
It's ATT. Did you really expect it to be unlocked?
Pay it off. Get sim unlock. Get bootloader unlock.
I'll have mine paid off in less than a month. Then we will know.
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I'm waiting at least a month before I pay it off then I'll do the same.

Just a thought, pull your sim, factory reset and see if it will let you unlock. Then put your sim back in. Also, there is options to root even when locked on the Verizon model, I would think it would work on ATT. FWIW.

tbtaf said:
Just a thought, pull your sim, factory reset and see if it will let you unlock. Then put your sim back in. Also, there is options to root even when locked on the Verizon model, I would think it would work on ATT. FWIW.
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Tell me more about this other option to root with a locked bootloader

antiochasylum said:
It's ATT. Did you really expect it to be unlocked?
Pay it off. Get sim unlock. Get bootloader unlock.
I'll have mine paid off in less than a month. Then we will know.
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I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news - BUT, ATT, TMOBILE and VERIZON all have LOCKED Bootloaders - they will not be unlocked when you pay it off. Period. Won't happen. Don't get your hopes up.
The Only hope (however slim) is for someone to figure out a way to do it with custom code - but frankly that has not been done on an ATT Phone in YEARS - I don't expect it will happen ever.
I wish this wasn't true, but you can take it the bank, the bootloader on those phones is locked tight and are going to stay that way for a long time.

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I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news - BUT, ATT, TMOBILE and VERIZON all have LOCKED Bootloaders - they will not be unlocked when you pay it off. Period. Won't happen. Don't get your hopes up.
The Only hope (however slim) is for someone to figure out a way to do it with custom code - but frankly that has not been done on an ATT Phone in YEARS - I don't expect it will happen ever.
I wish this wasn't true, but you can take it the bank, the bootloader on those phones is locked tight and are going to stay that way for a long time.
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Ok, but TMobile users have already had theirs unlocked, and Verizon as well. So you info is incorrect. I have insides at ATT. We will see soon enough, and if not oh well. I enjoy the phone how it is. It's great for me

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I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news - BUT, ATT, TMOBILE and VERIZON all have LOCKED Bootloaders - they will not be unlocked when you pay it off. Period. Won't happen. Don't get your hopes up.
The Only hope (however slim) is for someone to figure out a way to do it with custom code - but frankly that has not been done on an ATT Phone in YEARS - I don't expect it will happen ever.
I wish this wasn't true, but you can take it the bank, the bootloader on those phones is locked tight and are going to stay that way for a long time.
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That's cap, someone unlocked their T-Mobile one

antiochasylum said:
Ok, but TMobile users have already had theirs unlocked, and Verizon as well. So you info is incorrect. I have insides at ATT. We will see soon enough, and if not oh well. I enjoy the phone how it is. It's great for me
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not their bootloaders..not that i am aware of ...
i could be wrong. of course...let me know which tmobile phone you are talking about. id be interested in finding out more...if they are in fact unlocked...

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not their bootloaders..not that i am aware of ...
i could be wrong. of course...let me know which tmobile phone you are talking about. id be interested in finding out more...if they are in fact unlocked...
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Yes, bootloader. They contacted and got sim unlocked, and was able to bootloader unlock.
I'm 99% sure once you sim unlock, you'll be able to bootloader unlock on the ATT one. Because it says, not available on carrier locked devices. Once it's not carrier locked, you can unlock.

antiochasylum said:
Yes, bootloader. They contacted and got sim unlocked, and was able to bootloader unlock.
I'm 99% sure once you sim unlock, you'll be able to bootloader unlock on the ATT one. Because it says, not available on carrier locked devices. Once it's not carrier locked, you can unlock.
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my appologies, i was given bad info. i was told by someone who has been around a lot longer than I that they were locked just like Samsung devices. I am glad to hear i was wrong.

Geekser said:
my appologies, i was given bad info. i was told by someone who has been around a lot longer than I that they were locked just like Samsung devices. I am glad to hear i was wrong.
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Yes even OnePlus devices sold by t mobile we're unlockable once a Sim unlock was granted, either by paying off or using a traveling excuse for Sim unlock

tbtaf said:
Just a thought, pull your sim, factory reset and see if it will let you unlock. Then put your sim back in. Also, there is options to root even when locked on the Verizon model, I would think it would work on ATT. FWIW.
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I don't think that will work since that lock is probably part of custom software from AT&T. As soon as you put the SIM back in it will either automatically download that software or tell you there is an update (that would be custom from AT&T). If it's the second case then you could not install the update but since every update after that would be the same situation you'd never be able to update.

jimv1983 said:
I don't think that will work since that lock is probably part of custom software from AT&T. As soon as you put the SIM back in it will either automatically download that software or tell you there is an update (that would be custom from AT&T). If it's the second case then you could not install the update but since every update after that would be the same situation you'd never be able to update.
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Custom software? No. This is the stock Google image with 3 att apps installed once you boot with an ATT sim card.
And no it won't be like that. After unlocking the bootloader you can flash the Google image. And you'd never have ATT attached to the phone again.

So have we seen anyone who has SIM-unlocked their AT&T device and then successfully unlocked the bootloader?