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This must happen with other pdas... screen issue

I am experiancing some problems!
basically I think the manufacturer installed protective screen has come loose from the hard sensor (due to use?) and so the stylus is pushing on an air bubble, and with the software keyboard (virtual keyboard) the wrong buttons are getting pressed.
I dont know whether to cut out that layer with a scalpel (carefully) and use normal screen protectors that stick properly ... has anyone done this before?
Maybe you could apply heat to it to tighten it or something I dont know so I need help!
My phone is an alpine (xda2i) but other pdas must be having the same issue?
is it ok to cut the initial plastic screen that comes integrated with the xda?

Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.

To check whether it is the digitizer or the crappy screen protector, you should be able to see the edge of the layer at the side, especially manufacturer orginial screen protector, they are really crappy. You should be able to seperate the layer (from the edge) with something pointy (e.g. a needle), and then peel it off from there.
If you didn't see any distinguishable edge at the edge of the screen, chances are you should not do anything yourself.

Jonjamesm said:
Just make sure it is actually a protective screen and not the digitizer (the membrane that makes it touch screen and sits on the LCD) that your cutting away.
with a protective skin there should be no need to cut anything... I honestly think your talking about the digitizer - in which case take to a mobile phone specialist and they could heat sync it for you.
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Thanks for the responses!!!
I have a feeling that it is what you are referring to as a digitizer. Do most of the mobile phone shops do this heat option? as after googling it, not much comes up, or is it referred to under a different terminology,
thanks in advance!
Rob

If your UK based you can find out more about them from apex laptops, google them...
I'm in Edinburgh, and it took me a while before I found someone willing to replace the digitizer.
This is not a common thing - but I think with the introduction of the iphone the markets for heat syncing will go up, I suggest freeing up an afternoon and go to some of those dodgy shops that offer the unlocking service, also some computer repair shop technicians might be confident in doing something of this nature.
Happy hunting!...
JJ McG.

thanks for your help

whatever you do dont approach o2. they are ridiculous, they want to charge 350 dollars to peel off the old one and put a new on one. search ebay and you will find digitizres with screwdriver and peeling, firming tool for 15 dollars plus postage.
o2's repair guys say it "original" spares which make it so expensive....
right...........

rang up
rang up a couple of shops one doesn't do heat sync and the other does but the machines bust, he started talking about soldering etc...(does that sound like it?) but when i re-described the problem he started talking about 50 60 quid for a new screen! which I am not prepared to pay for the relatively minor problem
How is a digitiser different from a normal screen protector anyway?
(placing a normal protector on top of it sort of helped reduce the problems because it applied a little firmness over the offending area....)

O.k the digitizer is not a screen protector. The Digitizer is a membrane that sits atop the LCD.
Note: that the LCD is not a touch screen and the only thing making your device a touch sensitive is this digitizer
digitizers can be pricey, but the reason your guy is costing it at 50 - 60 quid is because he is the middle man and needs to make a profit. You can find digitizers from apex laptops or GPS midlands (links below) and buy them at trade prices
http://www.gpsmidlands.co.uk/index.php?menu=Home
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/touchscreens.htm
Dependant on your device will depend on the price.
My guy asked for 10 pounds to replace my screen, which I thought was more than reasonable because if he broke the LCD whilst replacing the digitizer (which he did) he was liable to replace it. Make sure that your guy will do this.
hope this helps.

after googling...
After googling for a bit, I came across someone who had these sort of problems with their own pda
http://jamescrisp.blogspot.com/2007/05/fixing-palm-treos-digitizer-touch.html
it seems that dirt stuck under the sides can cause the same kinds of problems,
after running a bit of paper under the corners of the screen I have found some interesting results, the problems I have have changed slightly and seem to rectify temporarily when I press down (rub down) on the screen...
so I might look at taking it apart with some tools off ebay or something and giving it a good clean... any recommendations on how to strip down and clean an Alpine....? actually I'll repost that in the aline forum if there isn't already a post there....

hope your confident in doing so - I'd take it to a shop if it pisses you off that much - taking it a part and cleaning might end up with you just having a big screen phone with no touch pad...
Up to you, hope your successful

Dirt INSIDE the screen

Hi guys,
Well it seems a real disappointment, but my Orbit 2 has gathered some dirt inside (I guess below outer touch surface and inner screen). Is there some way to get rid of it, can we disassemble the fornt cover in a simple way to do this?
ps: mind you its got nothing to do with a screen protector, the dust is inside the upper surface. If I got it after 1 month of use, I'm pretty sure all other owners will have similar problems!

Or you have a deffective unit in which the front protector (hardware, not accessory) was not stuck firmly enough, and let some dust inside...
I would strongly advise to NOT open the device, go back to your reseller. Most lower-tech devices can be opened, but I would really discrouage you to open this one... Much is at stake, unless you have plenty of money, but then you would have bought another one already

SabbeRubbish said:
Or you have a deffective unit in which the front protector (hardware, not accessory) was not stuck firmly enough, and let some dust inside...
I would strongly advise to NOT open the device, go back to your reseller. Most lower-tech devices can be opened, but I would really discrouage you to open this one... Much is at stake, unless you have plenty of money, but then you would have bought another one already
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Thanks for the reponse. But is this an un-heard-of problem for HTC devices? Same thing happened with my Nokia mobile, there was not much help except cleaning it, and it was a design flaw. For the case of HTC I guess it wont come under warranty!

It was definitely an inherent problem with Nokia phones, and with other manufacturers' phones, where you could "snap off" the fascia in order to replace it with an painted one. Dust easily made its way under the screen cover and I was forever trying to clean it off and then snap the case back together before any new dust managed to settle!
The Touch Cruise doesn't have such a design, and taking the front off to clean underneath the fascia would be a very risky and skilled job. I second the recommendation to not tackle this yourself but to take it back to where you bought the phone from and see what they will do about it.

[GUIDE] I9000 Screen Replacement

This topic has clues for replacing the screen. I have not concluded an manual for chancing it yet but reading this whole topic gives you the big picture how it is done. Questions are always welcome and I try to answer them with my knowledge. This 1st post gives you 2 links to follow for pics about changing screen and my own starting point for chancing my own screen.
Has anyone bought and installed a digitizer+screen set which is on sale at ebay? I could not post direct link to ebay because I'm a newbie on these forums. You can find the product searching ebay with these keywords "I9000 digitizer". My galaxy's screen cracked and I need an replacement. Both screen and glass broke. I think that this set includes them both. There is also told in the questions that the set infact includes amoled display and not LCD as the title says.
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
Third question is that doesn't samsung vibrant and galaxy s share the same chassis but different screen with more capacitive buttons. Could it be possible to install vibrant's screen to galaxy s?
PS. The way my galaxy brokedown is very funny. I lay down my phone on the kitchen table and the screen cracked. I was like OMFG when I heard the cracking noise. Phone was like 13 days old. Samsung does not repair it with warranty because they think that it wasn't an manufacturing defect. They said that I have dropped my phone and that's the way it broke. That could not be the case because I handled it like a baby. I would have to pay 255€ for new screen and digitizer. Hell no!! I'm a student so that sum does not fit with my wallet.
New screen installed, see posts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7683527&postcount=37 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7710572&postcount=40
Edit: Ebay's prices have rised noticeable in the last couple of months. At the moment the price for these screens is around 100$. I found this site which sells them for 60£. http://www.shineyourmobile.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=8128

pekkala89 said:
Second question is that does someone have an service manual somewhere. Would be nice to know how to break apart my phone when replacing screen.
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There are 2 videos on the net, both on youtube I think. Just search "i9000 Disassembly" and you'll find one of them.
The Galaxy S has a serious design flaw as the glass goes around the home button (and the call ear/speaker) so it's very vulnerable there to shattering. I had my phone in the pocket and suddenly when I take it out I see it cracked right next to the home button. What had I done during the time it got cracked? The only possible explanation was carrying a _small_ speaker that then probably hit it. I was so surprised when I saw it cracked because even a speaker hit, when I lifted it up, is hard to consider cracking the screen.
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.

Schmich said:
So international model Galaxy S owners, be careful at the bottom and top of the screen. They're the weak points of the glass. For me only the glass cracked and not the screen so it will be interesting to see how much it will cost to fix.
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I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.

the same...
i had a similar unfortunate event ... my screen cracked when i hit the phone to the metallic frame of a chair (it slipped out of my hand )...
it cracked exactly like you people said... near the home button.
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
it is quite tricky to dissassemble the display part but hope to succed...
keep you posted with the outcome
respect

pekkala89 said:
I think that you can't change only the glass. Amoled screen is so thin and I believe it's glued pretty thight to the glass. Separating them may be impossible without tearing the amoled.
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Yeah that's my fear but I presume they just heat up the glue. That's how some industries do for other products. I think dental bracers (& its glue) have a different technique as well. So, will be interesting to see.

gallaxya said:
i ordered the display + digitizer and i anxiously await its arrival to see if i can replace the damaged one.
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Where did you order it from?

If you were asked to pay more than $250 for screen replacement, then why don't you send it to Samsung in Korea? They will replace your SAMOLED for mere USD $100ish and ship it back to you for free (or may be not). This way you get a genium quality from original manufacturer and absolutely no hassles!

I dropped mine from around 4ft onto a concrete floor and its fine. Maybe I just got lucky.

Digitizer+Samoled set ordered from ebay. I should get it in two weeks. If possible I try to take pictures of the changing process and make an manual. I hope it's not glued tight to the chassis.

please do, i have some f***ing little scratches all over the screen, thought it was supposed to be scratch resistant.
Worst part is that it's in it's protective pouch all the time (maybe that's the probleme, dirt/dust might get trapped and rub against the screen).

Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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yrizan said:
Got my digitizer and amoled screen t
oday. I will report back if its a hard job or not to replace it.
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I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.

pekkala89 said:
I tried to remove broken screen for 2 hours and no luck. Removing the motherboard is problematic because power button is glued to the chassis so I could only turn the motherboard aside and not remove it completely. I tried also to remove metal edge but I could only separate it from the left and right edge, not from top and bottom. I hope you have better luck and report how you managed to overcome my problems.
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Sorry to say got in to the same problems
Looks like the phone is build around the screen. Be careful with the metal ring, on top and bottom its between the screen and chassis, so if you brute force to much the screen cracks even more. The screen is glued to the chassis all around with superglue. I am not sure if its even possible to repalce the screen. It let me thinking that samsung wont repair broken galaxys , just replace them.
Ill keep working on the phone and keep trying, but compared to changing the screen on iphone is this like changing the screen on a iphone as a blind man without arms.
People thinking of buying this screen kit on eBay, don't do it. Just contact samsung for a repair.
Ill keep you posted.

I got the screen off.
No need to loosen the metaling ring around. The screen in dropped in the chassis from the front.
On the mainboard, just pop off the screen cable, long and flat next to the SD card slot.
The next step is very strange, just use brute force and crack the screen off the chassis, start from the top
When you get around the home button, be careful. Samsung has clued 2 sensors to the screen and chassis for back and option button. Best thing to do here is bend the screen back a little and cut loos the sensors from the digitizer with a sharp knife/scalpel. Samsung has used insane amount of clue on this phone.
Both the digitizer and amoled screen was clued to the chassis.
The next step is to clean off all the clue, buy loads of glue. Fill the chassis with glue and press the new screen on.
Wish me luck.
Ill keep you posted.

Making me a bit scared reading this thread, I`ve just bought phone Insurance just in case.Good luck fitting your replacement screens, sounds a bit daunting.

YES!!!
New screen in place and everything is working perfectly. Took about 3 hours first time (give or take). Its possible to do it a lot faster. The biggeste problem is the glue. Melting at about 120 celsius, but i was scared to heat the glas as i didnt know how much heat the mainbord could stand. All in all a pain in the a**, but doable.
I can also confirm this screen from ebay to be an orginal samsung amoled screen.
Best of luck too others trying a screen replace.
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amoled or samoled though?

My mistake. Its a samoled screen
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Awesome!!! thanks for the review
did you manage to snap a few pictures meanwhile you were working in your phone?

Im sorry, no pictures
The charger is missing to my canon camera, new one incomming from ebay. I'll post pictures next time ill change the screen ;-)
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Bezel Repair

I have a blue Verizon S3. I recently dropped it and it of course landed such that there are a few chips in two corners. The damage is just cosmetic, but I'd like to fix it if possible. My understanding is that the bezel is attached to the screen,requiring either a difficult bezel replacement or a complete screen replacement, but both of which I'd prefer to avoid.
So, my guess is that the best plan would be to fill in the chips (if necessary) with epoxy and paint over it with nail polish or paint. But I don't know what would be the best match.
Has anyone tried doing this and had success with a particular type of nail polish/paint?
Thanks.

My recommendation is to buy a case that covers the phone completely, you'll forget about it...

I have a Diztronic case arriving Wednesday, but need to use it with my car dock without the case. It's not a big deal, but given that its trivial to do (except for finding the right paint) I would like to do it.

Well you're definately right, a simple cosmetic fix would be best, here's your part...
Not sure what to tell you man, maybe someone will chime in with some info or similar experience... It's just cheap plastic...
I found this on eHow:
How to Repair Chipped Plastic

You can actually get the bezel separately for $17, but the screen needs to be heated to come off - not easy. Plastic repair is easier (as you pointed out) but a good job requires good paint. Hopefully someone has already tried.
Thanks for the suggestions.

I remembered this thread from cappy section... With people making modifications to their housings... possibly you can msg one of them...

dblevitan said:
I have a blue Verizon S3. I recently dropped it and it of course landed such that there are a few chips in two corners. The damage is just cosmetic, but I'd like to fix it if possible. My understanding is that the bezel is attached to the screen,requiring either a difficult bezel replacement or a complete screen replacement, but both of which I'd prefer to avoid.
So, my guess is that the best plan would be to fill in the chips (if necessary) with epoxy and paint over it with nail polish or paint. But I don't know what would be the best match.
Has anyone tried doing this and had success with a particular type of nail polish/paint?
Thanks.
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did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just recently scratched my bezel on my s3 as well...

littlele87 said:
did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just recently scratched my bezel on my s3 as well...
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It's all kitted up into one part... the solution is a $250 front part of the phone...

Repairing the bezel itself is pretty hard which is also attached to the metal frame of the phone.
You will need to heat up the screen/metal frame then take the screen off, there is a high risk you could damage the screen.
If you do so, you will need to purchase a new screen which is around $200-250
If you look on ebay, you can find some that are preassembled (screen + bezel + frame) for $250

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Repairing the bezel itself is pretty hard which is also attached to the metal frame of the phone.
You will need to heat up the screen/metal frame then take the screen off, there is a high risk you could damage the screen.
If you do so, you will need to purchase a new screen which is around $200-250
If you look on ebay, you can find some that are preassembled (screen + bezel + frame) for $250
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thanks for repeating exactly what i said an hour before...

emckai said:
Repairing the bezel itself is pretty hard which is also attached to the metal frame of the phone.
You will need to heat up the screen/metal frame then take the screen off, there is a high risk you could damage the screen.
If you do so, you will need to purchase a new screen which is around $200-250
If you look on ebay, you can find some that are preassembled (screen + bezel + frame) for $250
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Make it easier on yourself next time, kid. Just copy/paste...
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littlele87 said:
did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just recently scratched my bezel on my s3 as well...
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I looked in some drug stores for some nail polish that would match, but never found anything. It's currently in a case, so I rarely notice it. Maybe sometime when I have energy, I'll try to replace the bezel, but not for now.

Well I cracked the glass on my Galaxy S3 and there is some other superficial damage around the bezel. As I am going to be getting another phone shortly anyway I was thinking about this problem and how I could get my phone as possible to "new." After consideration I'm leaning to using an automotive paint/scratch repair pen as opposed to nailpolish. Depending on how it turns out, I'll upload my process, materials, and pictures.

Display replacement

Unfortunately I crashed display on moto x play...so if anybody now trusted site to buy new one....tnx

Anyone found a display replacement that includes the front cover? Without it, it should be nearly impossible, am I right?
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I haven't seen any.
I tried combining the components and failed. Broke the circuitry in the LCD when trying to mount the frame...

I asked Motorola what i should do when i dropped my phone and the glas got broken. They told i should send it to their repair service, it was datrepair in Germany maybe its another in other countries. They Arranged everything for me and i paid 120€ for the replacement, just the glass maybe touch but idk, screen was ok when i was sending it in. They even took care of shipping without any cost for me.
Normaly i repair devices by myselfe but in fact the phone was only 1 Month old i refused to it.

If you have a heat gun (or hair dryer) and a set of torx screwdrivers, you should be able to fix it at home. If something is tight, never force it. Use plastic tools to pry open the case, usually comes together with the screwdriver set if you buy them online

pijes said:
If you have a heat gun (or hair dryer) and a set of torx screwdrivers, you should be able to fix it at home. If something is tight, never force it. Use plastic tools to pry open the case, usually comes together with the screwdriver set if you buy them online
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For that, you would need the lcd including the frame which is nicht available yet...
So atm nearly impossible.

I managed to get some tiny cracks on the edge near the front camera (it fell onto metal from my jacket, i was bending over). Thankfully it's not the touch area, but i now somehow understand why so many people have cracked phones. It happens so quickly. And i was treating it like a raw eggshell, too.

I dropped mine as I was getting out of the car.It cost me R1500 (R is for South African Rand) to replace the screen.The guys who repaired it had to crack the plastic frame to get the screen out .They used glue to keep the new screen in place.I dont think they knew what they were doing,but it was the only repair center that was in the same province as me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...Assembly-For-Moto-X-Play-XT1562-/351672097858
Finally a full assembly, actually think I am going to try AGAIN. maybe I will make a video on it

There is also a full assembly available on aliexpress. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-5-...-1&btsid=5347749e-d1d5-4871-a4c2-dafc85fd700d
I should have checked ebay prior as that one ships from the states and would have got here way quicker.

Jeklund said:
There is also a full assembly available on aliexpress. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-5-...-1&btsid=5347749e-d1d5-4871-a4c2-dafc85fd700d
I should have checked ebay prior as that one ships from the states and would have got here way quicker.
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NewAndreas said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...Assembly-For-Moto-X-Play-XT1562-/351672097858
Finally a full assembly, actually think I am going to try AGAIN. maybe I will make a video on it
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Yeah, please make a video it'll help many.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_yzMPWCQOM This video shows the whole process with a complete display assembly. Its incredibly more difficult if you get the screen without the frame as the screen is affixed to the frame with some sort of adhesive foam.

I also broke my screen and ordered a replacement. Unfortunately I broke the frame in the process of removing the old screen.
Luckily I got my hands on a replacement frame and some 3M 2 milimeters adhesive strips. Praying for everything to work out put together..

Crizzl said:
I also broke my screen and ordered a replacement. Unfortunately I broke the frame in the process of removing the old screen.
Luckily I got my hands on a replacement frame and some 3M 2 milimeters adhesive strips. Praying for everything to work out put together..
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Best of luck, if you can document the process as there isn't much info out on screen replacements where you affix a new frame to a screen. My frame broke when I dropped my phone which is why I just got the whole unit. Cost me about $62 CAD shipped for the whole unit.

Has anyone here tried a replacement? Any tips?

So is it possible to change just the glass without the whole display unit?
I'm talking bout this part: Outer Screen Glass Replacement

apokolok said:
So is it possible to change just the glass without the whole display unit?
I'm talking bout this part: Outer Screen Glass Replacement
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So, I tried for myself with my old display after I got a replacement new display including a new frame.
It is absolutely impossible to separate the front glass from the digitizer and display without destroying all three.
I think even a professional wouldn't be able to do it. Display and digitizer are very flexible while the screen is glued really really good to them
I heated it up to no avail. Maybe some glue remover would have helped, but I don't think it would get between the glass and the digitizer.
These phones are just not build to be repared, they are build to be thrown away.
Exchanging the new frame including display was no easy job too, but it can be done.
Be sure to have a high quality Torx T3 screwdriver or bit, the cheap china ones will do nothing but destroy the tiny screws.