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I got my Triumph and it will not charge no matter where I have plugged it in or fiddled with the charger. It does not matter whether it is on or off. I have been using the wall charger that's included and I have tried USB through my computer. Before I go to the hassle of sending my triumph back I wanted to see if there is a solution. Thanks in advance.
The first one I got did this sometimes as well. I took it back and swapped it.
Jumpstart
My triumph would not even turn on strait out of the box. I had to "Jumpstart" the battery, here is a link on how to do it. thejosea.com/2011/02/jump-start-your-droid-when-no-wall.html (Sorry i cant post links yet, gonna have to copy paste)
You pretty much have to charge the battery by its self outside of the phone. Once you do this let it sit charging for about 20 minutes then try to charge it through the phone.
You should only have to do this once.
It seems like the batteries are not being shipped charged and they run "Dry".
You MIGHT want to try a different USB cable.
I'm using my Nook Color adapter(1A) and a generic USB cord which works fine, however one time I accidentally used my Optimus V cable and it would NOT charge while the MT was up and running, however it WOULD charge IF I powered down the MT...
I haven't even tried the cable that came with MT yet... nor have I tried charging via a USB port on my nb, but I imagine that would be REALLY sssslllloooowwwww....
I exchanged my device for a new one, and with my new phone, when plugged in, the lock screen no longer shows "Chargin" with the %. Any ideas how to bring it back?
It only shows that if you're on an AC charge. If you're on USB it won't.
I've tried on 2 different AC chargers and it still doesn't display
Same cord? The AC pins have to be shorted or it won't go into AC charge mode. I have a couple of USB cords that work fine for connections to the computer but will not go into AC mode (the USB cords that come with the Optimus are known for doing this on other phones, incidentally....)
It'll charge without AC mode being "engaged" but at the 500ma rate instead of the 1A rate, so it will take a lot longer.
the answer is simple.....due to crappy crappy design of micro usb the charge port actually comes un-soldered from the board and obviously it no longer will charge nor will usb work!!! now before you ramble on with how do i know i wondered why mine wouldn't worked i opened the phone and notice the micro usb pins were not attached anymore....i have sent this in to Motorola which gives you a 2 year warranty instead of virgin mobiles crap $5 a month insurence then you still have to pay like $100 to get a new phone!!! so i will post how everything goes so far i know the repair center is in McAllen TX and they give you a free 2day shipping label valued at $100 to send in the phone!
You might want to try plugging it into a wall (not pc) and leave it for 20 minutes. Mine ran completely dry one time and it wouldn't display nothing until it charged for a while. If you've already tried this then definitely take it back.
nickmcnamara said:
the answer is simple.....due to crappy crappy design of micro usb the charge port actually comes un-soldered from the board and obviously it no longer will charge nor will usb work!!! now before you ramble on with how do i know i wondered why mine wouldn't worked i opened the phone and notice the micro usb pins were not attached anymore....i have sent this in to Motorola which gives you a 2 year warranty instead of virgin mobiles crap $5 a month insurence then you still have to pay like $100 to get a new phone!!! so i will post how everything goes so far i know the repair center is in McAllen TX and they give you a free 2day shipping label valued at $100 to send in the phone!
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*update* They are fixing my phone now and i should get it in 5-7 business days no problems they received the phone and started the repair
I had the same problem but different solution.
I too let my phone completely discharge to find that it would not indicate that it was charging or even power on with or without the battery being present, but I "jumped started" my phone. This is a weird technical solution that went as followed in its entirety, meaning, some of these steps might be pointless or useless but I did them and I now have a working resurrected MT in my hands that is charging. This solution is assuming that there is no problem with the micro USB soldering on the main board.
"Jump Starting"
1) Remove the back casing and your MT battery and place both to the side, but keep the battery close by for polarity reference.
2) Have another battery of the same 3.7v that is charged (disregarding mAh).
3) Now here is the fun part and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to POLARITY!!!
-Get two spare wires, preferably of different colors so you can tell the [+] from the [-].
-With the spare 3.7v battery you have, in what ever way you can, connect your spare wires to it, paying close attention to polarity.
-Now that you have your spare battery wired, CORRECTLY connect the wires to the inside connectors of your MT what ever way you can, paying close attention to polarity.
Being [+] connected to [+] and [-] connected to[-]
4) Boot your phone until you know you are at the home/lock screen. Then remove the wires from the MT battery connectors.
5) Use this same battery and connect it to your battery for about 30-60 seconds, paying close attention to polarity. This will give the battery some juice for the system to recognize.
6) Place the battery back in the phone without attempting to turn it on and return the back case to the closed position.
7) Now connect your MT to a powered micro USB cable and see if the red indicator charging light turns on.
-If so then great!
-If not then you may have some other problems
-If yes and no, as in the cable has to set a certain way for it to charge then just keep on reading for that fix as well.
"Loose Connection Fix"
This is how I fixed my loose micro USB cable and it worked for me, but I do not have soldering problems on my main board of my MT so proceed if you think this will help.
1) Your micro USB male side of the cable that plugs into your MT should look something like this (excuse the crude drawing of letters)
{the dots are empty space}
____________
\................... /
\UUUUUU/
2) Get a pair of needle nose pliers and SLIGHTLY pinch/squeeze the center of the male port closed so it looks like this
____...... ____
\.... \...... /.... /
\UUUUUU/
Except not that extremely bent inward, but you get the idea.
This will force the male tongue in the MT charging port to be forced onto the pins inside the micro USB cable for a better connection and thus fixing the loose connection problem
I hope this helps someone, it helped me save my $300 paper weight from actually being a paper weight.
Froxen said:
I too let my phone completely discharge to find that it would not indicate that it was charging or even power on with or without the battery being present, but I "jumped started" my phone. This is a weird technical solution that went as followed in its entirety, meaning, some of these steps might be pointless or useless but I did them and I now have a working resurrected MT in my hands that is charging. This solution is assuming that there is no problem with the micro USB soldering on the main board.
"Jump Starting"
1) Remove the back casing and your MT battery and place both to the side, but keep the battery close by for polarity reference.
2) Have another battery of the same 3.7v that is charged (disregarding mAh).
3) Now here is the fun part and pay CLOSE ATTENTION to POLARITY!!!
-Get two spare wires, preferably of different colors so you can tell the [+] from the [-].
-With the spare 3.7v battery you have, in what ever way you can, connect your spare wires to it, paying close attention to polarity.
-Now that you have your spare battery wired, CORRECTLY connect the wires to the inside connectors of your MT what ever way you can, paying close attention to polarity.
Being [+] connected to [+] and [-] connected to[-]
4) Boot your phone until you know you are at the home/lock screen. Then remove the wires from the MT battery connectors.
5) Use this same battery and connect it to your battery for about 30-60 seconds, paying close attention to polarity. This will give the battery some juice for the system to recognize.
6) Place the battery back in the phone without attempting to turn it on and return the back case to the closed position.
7) Now connect your MT to a powered micro USB cable and see if the red indicator charging light turns on.
-If so then great!
-If not then you may have some other problems
-If yes and no, as in the cable has to set a certain way for it to charge then just keep on reading for that fix as well.
"Loose Connection Fix"
This is how I fixed my loose micro USB cable and it worked for me, but I do not have soldering problems on my main board of my MT so proceed if you think this will help.
1) Your micro USB male side of the cable that plugs into your MT should look something like this (excuse the crude drawing of letters)
{the dots are empty space}
____________
\................... /
\UUUUUU/
2) Get a pair of needle nose pliers and SLIGHTLY pinch/squeeze the center of the male port closed so it looks like this
____...... ____
\.... \...... /.... /
\UUUUUU/
Except not that extremely bent inward, but you get the idea.
This will force the male tongue in the MT charging port to be forced onto the pins inside the micro USB cable for a better connection and thus fixing the loose connection problem
I hope this helps someone, it helped me save my $300 paper weight from actually being a paper weight.
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I let my battery die down and also did a battery memory reset, then the phone acted bricked.
Then I tried this to revive and it worked!
Thanks for the help here I did this but when I connected the batter to the phone nothing happened. I connected battery to battery let sit for about 90 sec put it in phone and plugged in and the red light is now on!
Thanks!
Well,
add my phone to the list. It started about 2 weeks ago when after completing charge, instead of maintaining trickle charge it just let battery drain. I woke up couple of times in the morning finding the phone's battery on it's last legs. Now it simply refuses to charge by anything but my car charger. Lucky for me (and I thought I would never say it in my life) I have a long commute to work and it allows me to recharge the phone while I enjoy typical traffic delights.
I am going to call Motorola and discuss my options with them. I hate doing this as my phone is long since rooted and running CM7, so I will probably have to revert to factory settings before sending it off and if they decide to exchange I would be running a chance of receiving one with bad GPS.
yes i've had this problem to i have to charge my phone on a Samsung charger no motorola charger will work on my phone.
Sorry, I'm somewhat new here.
I have a Motorola Triumph and it just stopped working. The general idea is that the Micro-USB port was shoved up into the device?
How do you go about contacting Motorola about sending it back to be repaired?
I have delt with this problem SO MUCH, have you tried my battery charging fix yet ? I have the link posted in this section called battery charging fix, Hope this helps you it sucks when your phone won't charge.
Well the problem is that it won't even turn on. I think the battery has some kind of charge but when I hit the power button, it vibrates like it's booting up then stays off.
I don't know that much about phones, but from what I can gather off Google and the various threads on XDA (Great site, by the way!) the general consensus is that it's the micro-usb port.
Granted, I may be wrong, which is a very real possibility. Heh.
Well 2 things, have you replaced your recovery with the clockwork recovery image ? If so try any means nessary to get into recovery, My old Triumph would NOT charge with any motorola charger, I belive this is a defect with the triumph. You might try a powermat of some kind to get enough power to get to recovery & do what my guide says to fix this most pain in the ass problem, Or get another battery & follow the guide. It's worth a shot anyway. otherwise you've got two options replace it or open it up, if you're gonna open it up then get a super fine sautering tip or file one down to needle size, this is how I do precision sautering on circut boards.
No, I had downloaded Clockwork with the intention of installing a 2.3 rom on it, but never got around to it. As for the charger, my Triumph charges with any micro-USB, from my old LG and Samsung chargers to the Motorola charger that came with it. It acts weird though when I plug it into a computer, saying it is connected to a computer, then that it's not, then that it is, then that it's not, repeatedly. I usually just end up turning it off so it won't do that.
I find it weird, though, that now when I try to charge it, the charging light up where the speaker is will not come on, as if it isn't charging. (And I don't think it is charging.)
I've also tried putting it into the "recovery mode". (Like I say, not too knowledgeable about phones yet. Learning experience. ) When I boot it up (into "recovery mode" or "regular" (?) mode) it just vibrates like it should then does nothing.
Edit: It finally did boot into the "recovery mode", but the touch button things at the bottom (menu, home, back, and search) don't do anything, and I cannot get into the menu to do a factory reset.
I don't think it's the battery now? I am more confused then I was when I started, and appreciate any and all help!
So, I have an LG GT540 Optimus.
The USB micro B plug/port became loose and I couldn't get a new cable to check for 2 weeks. Now, when I got the new cable, the phone wouldn't charge or switch on. It's quite possible that the battery is fully dead.
I cannot send it to service center since I have a custom ROM and there seems no way to enter bootloader or recovery.
Any tips and ideas to get out of this mess?
nibras_reeza said:
So, I have an LG GT540 Optimus.
The USB micro B plug/port became loose and I couldn't get a new cable to check for 2 weeks. Now, when I got the new cable, the phone wouldn't charge or switch on. It's quite possible that the battery is fully dead.
I cannot send it to service center since I have a custom ROM and there seems no way to enter bootloader or recovery.
Any tips and ideas to get out of this mess?
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Get a cheap eBay external battery charger. Alternatively, if you're adept with a soldering iron it's relatively easy to tack one back on make sure it's neat though (use wick), and don't use too much solder
Though personally I'd just go with ebay. Much safer.
just get a universal micro usb charger like for motorola or nokia. micro usb is becoming more and more popular. dont get a cheap brand trust me.
The problem is isolating the issue. The new cable I bought seems thin and might have broken. Or, it might be that the phone's USB port is broken/faulty.
juzz86 said:
Get a cheap eBay external battery charger. Alternatively, if you're adept with a soldering iron it's relatively easy to tack one back on make sure it's neat though (use wick), and don't use too much solder
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Yes. Am considering an external charger but just curious. How can I make sure that the issue is with the discharge fuse and not with the phone? Is it an issue with Android phones that they will not charge if completely discharged?
Btw, how do I get the voltage source? I don't have a volt meter. The charger that came with the phone is 5.1V USB charger. What if the charger itself is faulty?
DroidSamster said:
Though personally I'd just go with ebay. Much safer.
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Thanks!
snake212 said:
just get a universal micro usb charger like for motorola or nokia. micro usb is becoming more and more popular. dont get a cheap brand trust me.
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Motorola uses USB mini B. Nokia uses proprietary port. As far as I know Blackberry and LG use USB micro B. It's not an issue of replacing the faulty part. Am not sure which is exactly faulty. I don't want to buy a new battery and charger only to find out that the phone's port is faulty.
Root cause analysis
If the phone had charging problems before you bought the new cable and still has charging problems after you tried the new cable then the problem is likely to be the phone and not the cable.
Plan 0:
Check that the battery is actually dead. Use a multi-meter or find someone that has tools. If not then do not proceed with Plan A or B.
Plan A:
1a. Search the web to see if there is an easy way to power the phone other than through the USB.
(a) Maybe through the battery connectors with an AC-DC power block? I'm imagining paperclips + phone + DC block, one clip on inside of tube, one clip on outside of tube, ...add tape. Make sure DC voltage matches the battery spec.
(b) Maybe with some of the manufacturing test connectors?
2a. Get the device charged up.
3a. Get all of your data out of the phone.
4a. Wipe the phone. Use recovery to wipe as much as possible. Figure out how to completely wipe it and return it to stock. Make sure its stock everything: kernel, recovery, ROM. Format the SD card.
5a. Let battery discharge *almost* completely. Just enough to demonstrate that it works.
6a. Return it.
If that fails, plan B:
1b. Try to disassemble the phone (tools needed)
2b. Find USB wiring specification for which pins are power
3b. Inspect those pins for problems
4b. Solder to fix problems (you may also be able to wiggle/hold the connector "just right" to make contact which saves you steps 1b-5b)
5b. Re-assemble
6b. Go to step 2a at top, at your discretion of course.
If Plan 0, Plan A, and Plan B fail then re-post.
No warrantyß
wescovallen said:
If the phone had charging problems before you bought the new cable and still has charging problems after you tried the new cable then the problem is likely to be the phone and not the cable.
Plan 0:
Check that the battery is actually dead. Use a multi-meter or find someone that has tools. If not then do not proceed with Plan A or B.
Plan A:
1a. Search the web to see if there is an easy way to power the phone other than through the USB.
(a) Maybe through the battery connectors with an AC-DC power block? I'm imagining paperclips + phone + DC block, one clip on inside of tube, one clip on outside of tube, ...add tape. Make sure DC voltage matches the battery spec.
(b) Maybe with some of the manufacturing test connectors?
2a. Get the device charged up.
3a. Get all of your data out of the phone.
4a. Wipe the phone. Use recovery to wipe as much as possible. Figure out how to completely wipe it and return it to stock. Make sure its stock everything: kernel, recovery, ROM. Format the SD card.
5a. Let battery discharge *almost* completely. Just enough to demonstrate that it works.
6a. Return it.
If that fails, plan B:
1b. Try to disassemble the phone (tools needed)
2b. Find USB wiring specification for which pins are power
3b. Inspect those pins for problems
4b. Solder to fix problems (you may also be able to wiggle/hold the connector "just right" to make contact which saves you steps 1b-5b)
5b. Re-assemble
6b. Go to step 2a at top, at your discretion of course.
If Plan 0, Plan A, and Plan B fail then re-post.
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Wow. Excellent answer. Thanks.
That's what's been on my mind. Don't have any tools. So, am gonna take it to a local repair shop and ask them to charge the battery externally.
Charged the battery with an external charger for around 2 hours. The phone switched on when I used the same battery. Battery level was 30% or so. The battery was too deeply discharged.
New USB cable seems to work when I hold the cable up. Possibly the cable itself is broken.
change the charging adapter, hope it resolve the issue...
drbatookhan said:
change the charging adapter, hope it resolve the issue...
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I don't have a voltmeter or multimeter to check the terminals. =(
I touched on this in the EOS thread, but I've discovered it's probably not the ROM's fault and some other problem. I was staying in a very old hotel, which I assume had very poor electricity (not sure if relevant, but wife's iphone was charging slowly too, so maybe it could be part of the problem - way too low voltage or something). Plugged the (TF101) in and it charged barely, if at all. If I recall, the wall adapter got hot on the first try (didn't really take much notice as this has happened semi-frequently since I got it - might describe it more as "warm" in the past, where in this case I'd call it "hot") and from then on probably charged to about a max of 25% in 24 hours. So assuming the problem was the hotel, I tried it again at home, where I knew it always worked, and it still doesn't charge. so...
TL : DR - charger isn't charging - thought it was the electrical supply but it's not (though it could have started the downward spiral of breakage)
I tried freezing the adapter, bending pins, hard reset/cold boot, etc as per different threads on the subject. Didn't help.
Tried plugging the USB cord into a PC and it shows up as a connected device - doesn't show charging on the Transformer, but I don't think it's supposed to - so I think that means the cord is okay.
I plugged a Blackberry with its USB cord into the wall charger and it shows "charging" so it would seem that part is okay - but not necessarily definitive proof as it's a completely different device, just my only other USB device I could test.
This all happened right after flashing the newest EOS Jellybean ROM (from #70 to #72 - no full wipe - cache & dalvik wipe only), but I've switched back to Megatron, which worked perfectly in the past, and nothing changed with the charging. So unless it's possible for parts of the EOS ROM to remain (after a full wipe this time), it would seem the problem is with the charging circuit or the battery itself, right? Not sure what steps to take to test that.
I think I will probably try a new charger anyway, as that seems the cheapest of the $$$ options to try first, but are there any tests I can do in the meantime without spending money on replacement parts? At the moment I have it plugged in with the power off to see if that does anything - will update with any positive results
(Sorry for long-winded question, I wanted to get as much relevant info in there as possible. Hopefully I got it all)
Start by buying a new usb cable, that fixed my issue. Wall socket and usb port only trickle charged my tf101 (about 48 hours for full charge) tried all the freezing, bending pins but nothing worked. I then brought a new usb cable as a last resort (Wall warts are quite expensive so i was apprehensive of buying a new one) and it started charging straight away. seemed strange because the charging issue was just out of the blue (No damaged to the cable)
doubt this needs an update, but my new charger and (longer!) cord came today and it's charging my tablet perfectly. thanks for the info
now to catch up on 2 weeks worth of ROM updates
Dunno if its the right thread but I was also wondering:
My TF101 charges perfektly with the Wallcharger (TF to USB Cable + Adapter). But as soon, as I put
an USB-to-USB-Cable between Adapter and TF-USB-Cable to enlarge the range ... it wont charge anymore.
But: if I connect the same config it to my PC... I'm fully able to Up/Download/ ADB etc... so it can't be the connection
at all.
What's the trick? What am I missing?
So I bought a cheap cable from eBay that converts microusb to the proprietary Galaxy connector on this device. Tried to charge the device but it entered a bootloop. Unplugged the cable and tried charging with the stock cable and left it overnight. Woke up and the device was completely dead.
Wouldn't boot at all.
Tore it open, unplugged the battery and plugged it back in. It booted! BUT the battery was critical and it shut off immediately. Tried charging again, no dice.
So I unplugged the battery and applied 4v to get some charge into it. Got the battery up to about 3.6V, booted again and it showed 3%. So in the time I had with the device turned on I tried both cables again but neither would charge the device. I used a multimeter to test the stock cable and it was all good, I even did a beep test between the 4 USB pins in the stock cable and the places they're wired up to inside the note and everything was fine so it's most likely not the cable.
Anyway the 3% is long gone now and I can't boot or charge. The device and battery are fine and definitely working, it just won't charge through USB no matter what. I've tried different power points, different adapters including stock and normal usb ports.
I've also cleaned both the plug and the jack with a toothbrush.
Could it be that the internal charging circuitry got fried when I tried the dodgy cable? If so, is there any way to fix/bypass this?
I'm at a complete loss so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Nas.
I would not recommend to charge battery directly outside the device or even remove the battery at all.
First you gotta make sure your cables are capable of charge other galaxy devices if a friend has Tab 7 or Tab 10.1 or other note 10.1 or another try your cables to see if they really work.
Because it may just be your cable, remember batteries have their own circuits boards of sort and batteries are sometimes picky on how they are charge especially OEM batteries that are not suppose to ever be out of the device unless are change for a new one in a repair.
So first of all cable check it a must, again is not as simple as check if all the pins works as this is not a simple USB (Universal Serial Bus) port is a proprietary port and cable, check the port in the tablet too.
As well it may be just a defective battery or worst case even a board problem.
Unfortunately I have no other device to test it with. I might just buy another cable and see how I go.
I know about the circuits on the battery, but I always thought they were just there as a safety measure due to the potentially volatile nature of Li-Ion when it drops below a certain voltage. I'll probably take your advice and stay away from charging it externally, I only did it once to see if the tab died or it was just a dead battery. The voltage never dropped low enough to trigger the circuit to 'kill' it, evidenced by the fact that I could get it back up to 3% just applying a constant voltage.
I'm guessing you've hit it on the head with the last sentence, might be a board problem which would be quite sad. Silly reason for a great device to die.
Thanks a lot for the reply, I'll update this thread once I try an alternative cable for future reference.
Ok, So to update:
I've bought and tested 3 separate cables, all provide 4.99V inside the device, but none of this makes it to the battery so I'm fairly certain it's the charging IC that's dead.
I bought a new battery that was charged to 40% so I was able to flash the device to see if it was maybe the custom kernel messing something up. Flashed to stock via Odin, still not charging.
From what I've read, I need a cell balancing circuit (since the battery is 2-cell Li-Ion) and a charging IC. I've found a suitable IC for fairly cheap, but I'm not sure if the balancing circuit is necessary. The battery already has one of these inside, but I'm not sure if this is just for Voltage/Current protection or if it also balances.
MP24AG: http://eng.it-m.co.kr/cnt/prod/tep_5l/MP24AG.pdf
If anyone knows I'd be very grateful.
Hello I recently bought a 20000mAh Dual USB Power Bank Case Kit 6X 18650 (Power Bank) and I tried to charge my phone (Samsung galaxy S4), but it doesn't seem to charge UNLESS something else is charging with my phone. I tried with more than 3 cables that usually work and it doesn't change anything. Before that, I had chinese power banks and it was working but this time, it doesn't.
Thanks for reading.
some power bank have auto off features when there is no amp request
some batteries will cut off charging at initial charge phase to check it self.
that powerbank suck. can't it wait just few more seconds?