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What a stupid idea. One of the things that piss me off the most in iOS is how wasteful it is when it comes to screen real estate, while on Android the unneeded buttons are kept off the screen until they are explicitly called by the user
Now Google is pushing a design paradigm that is essentially going backwards (not to mention ugly and inconsistent with current UI decisions)

Wow, all it takes is a couple of dots to fire you up? I really don't see the big deal...

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Wow, all it takes is a couple of dots to fire you up? I really don't see the big deal...
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notice how the ActionBar takes a silly amount of space for something that could have been added to the virtual buttons at the bottom?

To be fair I agree with op. I like having the menu button because it saves wasting some of the screen with a bar.
Some android devices are small and that bit of screen could make a three inch display more like two and a half.
Its not the dots the op is on about but the fact that you have to have that menu, whereas at moment you can have full screen app and choose to show a menu by pressing a button which frees up screen space whereas if you have a fixed menu on screen all the time then apps have less space to work with on screen.
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Agreed, this is a bad idea, if I wanted a space wasting OS I would have migrated to microsofts new mobile platform.
Google are shockers at implementing unpopular changes, just have to look at YouTube over the years to see that, ICS has some pretty dumb features in it already, like the forever moving onscreen menu button, this proposal takes stupid one step further

Google should just give the option of using either. It's less consistent, but then both camps are happy.

Im sorry but that screen shot was (or at least looks like it was) takin from the galaxy nexus which was given more screen realestate for those keys. Their pure touch screen not capatative (could never spell that right) samsungy is pushing that. Cause if thats being added to every phone then that is retarded and a waste. That screen shot looks exactly like the nexus' or mayne the future of samsungs high end phones.
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Agree with OP.
We don't need to see all the buttons. Keep'em under the hood.
Space is precious!
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Who the hell has brainfarts like this? the menu button is useful as it is. Why change it unnecissarily? What are the advantages of this? More to the point who auythorises crap like this. It amazes me the amount of morons who work together and who have the ability to approve other peoples craptastic ideas.

The problem with the menu button is that:
1- no context. All options are lumped together and have no organization.
2 - mystery meat. you have no idea that there is a menu and a lot of the the time there isn't. Conditions users to be confused.
The action bar gives context (icons) and organization (desperate groups of menus), as well as let's the user know that there are options available.
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The problem with the menu button is that:
1- no context. All options are lumped together and have no organization.
2 - mystery meat. you have no idea that there is a menu and a lot of the the time there isn't. Conditions users to be confused.
The action bar gives context (icons) and organization (desperate groups of menus), as well as let's the user know that there are options available.
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Options aren't lumped together. For instance if pressing the menu button in tapatalk options come up in seperate clearly defined squares and are straightforward and logical, same in other apps like go launcher.
Yes you don't know if a menu exists, I agree, but surely a solution would be have maybe just a small symbol on screen to make user aware although I never find it a concern.
The problem with the action bar is that it wastes valuable screen real estate. I'm assuming it can be disabled for full screen apps like video players though. Or is it always on?
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/?hl=en
the link to the developers blog has more info on this

Interesting. Its good that you can have apps not using it but I still think a menu that can pop up but be hidden when not needed, via a button, is better and saves screen space.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Interesting. Its good that you can have apps not using it but I still think a menu that can pop up but be hidden when not needed, via a button, is better and saves screen space.
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i agree with you

Originally Posted by Award Tour
The problem with the menu button is that:
1- no context. All options are lumped together and have no organization.
2 - mystery meat. you have no idea that there is a menu and a lot of the the time there isn't. Conditions users to be confused.
The action bar gives context (icons) and organization (desperate groups of menus), as well as let's the user know that there are options available.
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Options aren't lumped together. For instance if pressing the menu button in tapatalk options come up in seperate clearly defined squares and are straightforward and logical, same in other apps like go launcher.
Yes you don't know if a menu exists, I agree, but surely a solution would be have maybe just a small symbol on screen to make user aware although I never find it a concern.
The problem with the action bar is that it wastes valuable screen real estate. I'm assuming it can be disabled for full screen apps like video players though. Or is it always on?
Dave
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Re: icons within menu pop up. Exactly, their lumped together. Requires an extra touch where as a action bar would simplify it to one and have instant visual context.
Re: on screen symbol... that's what the action bar is but you can actually press it for the menu.
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Award Tour said:
Re: icons within menu pop up. Exactly, their lumped together. Requires an extra touch where as a action bar would simplify it to one and have instant visual context.
Re: on screen symbol... that's what the action bar is but you can actually press it for the menu.
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I see your point but they could have say just three dots at bottom showing a menu is available rather than a big bar which eats screen space that on smaller screens could be invaluable.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
I see your point but they could have say just three dots at bottom showing a menu is available rather than a big bar which eats screen space that on smaller screens could be invaluable.
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Having the three dots as a small icon overlaid somewhere would be good, too.

No need to get all uptight about it. While Google may ask. Many OEM are not ready to give up the buttons yet. Even the new HTC still have the buttons. I don't like the idea myself as it just plain ugly but hey not my choice.

Personally i prefer the old capacitive buttons over the hideous rubbish that is ICS.

As soon as 1 device comes out with no menu button on it then this will be required. The best solution I can see is to give developers a way to tell if there is a menu button or not on the phone. That way the software can decide whether you need one on screen or not.

The folders in EMUI is really my only problem with EMUI what is yours ?

Since EMUI got no App drawer you rely a lot on folders, my really only problem with EMUI right now is how the folders look, I really do not like that they pop up in fullscreen like that, I know they do in a lot of launchers out there I have never understand the purpose of this, to me it is clear, the android vanilla/nova/apex folder look is superior and a lot faster to use more flexible and looks better. I really wonder if Huawei will ever submit using tradtional vanilla android folder. I think this is really important.
I would normally just switch launcher but I have found that EMUI is best optmized and lags a lot less then 3rd party launchers with Marshmallow, with lollipop it was the opposite.
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What is your biggest problem with EMUI ?

Yes, the launcher I hate.
On Lollipop mine runs nice on Smart Launcher Pro. If I updated to MM and had poor performance with it, I'd revert to LP.

Well, for me it's a little bit of the opposite... I've always used Nova Launcher, but a while ago I decided to give a try to EMUI launcher. I looked for a nice theme, and I love the result...

yes I like EMUI but the folders look not good in its "opened" state" they do not need to pop up in full screen like that

blackinfinity said:
yes I like EMUI but the folders look not good in its "opened" state" they do not need to pop up in full screen like that
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Totally agree...

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Totally agree...
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Most launchers fail in this area, actually most luancher seem to have this "pop up" folder style, not many fall true to the look of vanilla android folders (in its expanded state)
All I am saying is I hope Huawei read this and fix this small problem, besides this I have no complains about EMUI really, it is just these damn folders.
I really love the swipe down function to do search it is really good and useable.
I cannot really say I miss an apdrawer, for me when I used nova I did not use it to scroll down thru all apps I did just use the search directly since I founded apps faster that way.
To get as much to fit as possible on one screen you get faster access to your apps. But this popup animations of the folder slow down the access little bit..

I really see no problem with EMUI folders. I mean, if you open a folder it's because you want to see it's content, am i right? My attention is on the folder, not anywhere in the screen, why do you want to be able to see other parts of the screen while in a folder? Just touch anywhere else and you'll be right back in the home screen in like 0.00000000001 seconds.

aldesal said:
I really see no problem with EMUI folders. I mean, if you open a folder it's because you want to see it's content, am i right? My attention is on the folder, not anywhere in the screen, why do you want to be able to see other parts of the screen while in a folder? Just touch anywhere else and you'll be right back in the home screen in like 0.00000000001 seconds.
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It is mostly about ergonomic reasons for the thingers . With googles standard folders you need to move your finger very little to choose app within in folder it makes it faster, the animation alone will just delay access time with about 1 second, the full screen mode is much like windows 8 start menu which also did pop in full screen, it gets very "distracting" . So I hope they get rid of this or atleast makes us be able to show of folder will be shown.
With launchers who have no app drawer and depend on folder it makes it very important that the folders is good.
One thing I like about the folders though is when its closed state the folder is transperent and you get a good overview of all apps inside, that is good and that is not in standard android

My only problem with EMUI at the moment is that custom launcher run so poorly as OP already said. I always used Smart Launcher until I flashed Lollipop, then it would always restart when clearing all tasks in task manager. Now in Marshmallow it doesn't behave like this anymore, but the performance is just bad, even my first Android did better than that..

Tazmaniiac said:
My only problem with EMUI at the moment is that custom launcher run so poorly as OP already said. I always used Smart Launcher until I flashed Lollipop, then it would always restart when clearing all tasks in task manager. Now in Marshmallow it doesn't behave like this anymore, but the performance is just bad, even my first Android did better than that..
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Yes I really wonder why, even google now launcher is slower which is strange, on lollipop google now laucnher was noticeable faster for all task that incuded browsing, scrolling, open apps and app animations then Huawei Laucnher, right now with Marshmallow EMUI is clearly a lot more faster, but it should not be this way...not sure what the bottleneck is.. Launchers like Nova, apex and Google now launcher are heavily optimized, even though a very small % have marshmallow I would note believe that they did not optimize it less good for marshmallow.
Anyway every 3rd party launcher I have tried have resulted in sluggish and non smooth animations. With that said I am very happy right now with EMUI and Mate 7 lollipop, it is just these damn folders that I do not like, but I have gotten used to them now but if I could choose I would easily choose google style folders

Now that i think about it, my one and only big complaint about EMUI is the lack of notification badges in most apps. Sure, system apps like the dialer or the messaging app do get their badges, and so do some app like whatsapp, but i use telegram mostly and it bothers me that i dont see the notification count in a badge, same as Instagram and others :|

aldesal said:
Now that i think about it, my one and only big complaint about EMUI is the lack of notification badges in most apps. Sure, system apps like the dialer or the messaging app do get their badges, and so do some app like whatsapp, but i use telegram mostly and it bothers me that i dont see the notification count in a badge, same as Instagram and others :|
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Not sure what you are talking about. Badge icons are available for all programs in settings

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Not sure what you are talking about. Badge icons are available for all programs in settings
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Yeah, yeah, i know that but Telegram does not show up there :| Also Instagram is supposed to give me badges and it does not, only regular banners on the screen

aldesal said:
Yeah, yeah, i know that but Telegram does not show up there :| Also Instagram is supposed to give me badges and it does not, only regular banners on the screen
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Yes you are right. It was not many apps in the list I thought alla was there.
Well install the app c notice etc you get floating pop up windows it has badges in the icons

Hex themes work!

One of my biggest worries was hex not working but it does! See my screenshots. I really hate Samsungs icons and status bar icons, so being able to do this is pretty huge for me.
I'll be trying nova and default gestures next to see if things are working smoothly there too.

Interested in what Nova looks like.

poczynek said:
Interested in what Nova looks like.
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Nova works, but not well. Besides native gestures still being slightly buggy, the front display copies the main display layout and is chaotic since it crams everything in the tiny display. Unless you have tiny as hell hands, you can't really use it. The native gesture bug is tiny but still there - when you swipe to go home, there's a small delay before you can actually tap anything on the screen. It's not a long delay, but enough to annoy me.

I've found gestures to be good with Nova ...so far anyway in my short time using yesterday....front screen is definitely a little tight ...

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AhsanU said:
One of my biggest worries was hex not working but it does! See my screenshots. I really hate Samsungs icons and status bar icons, so being able to do this is pretty huge for me.
I'll be trying nova and default gestures next to see if things are working smoothly there too.
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Thanks! I just installed Hex, well worth it, I'm missing Nova so just happy to get stock round Android Q icons!!!

mickliq said:
Thanks! I just installed Hex, well worth it, I'm missing Nova so just happy to get stock round Android Q icons!!!
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Same! I could live with the slight delay after swiping up to go home, but I can't deal with the cover display mimicking the main display. Maybe Nova can do something about it. I'll actually message the dev and see if there's anything in the works, or if they can even do anything about it.

Would be good if you would be more specific what you are talking about. Not like "anecdote #25"

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Would be good if you would be more specific what you are talking about. Not like "anecdote #25"
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It would be even better if you went to google.com, typed in "hex themes", and click on the first link. I'm not sure if your geography skewers the search results, but to have as many posts/thanked posts as you do on these forums and not use Google to answer a question that seems relatively easily answered confuses me.

I'm new to using Hex and wanted, like you, to improve Samsung's awful UI (rounded corners look childish)
I found some Pixel/AOSP10 themes that I applied, however, they caused some issues within some applications. For example, in WhatsApp, the message bubbles for both my messages and the recipient's messages became the same black colour so it wasn't easy to distinguish between each other's messages. I think this might be because Hex tells you to apply the High Contrast theme (which I assume is a 'base' that Hex uses to them) and it's the High Contrast theme that's making WhatsApp the way it is.
Is it possible to fix this issue? Like somehow exclude WhatsApp from a list of applications to theme?

Mekrel said:
I'm new to using Hex and wanted, like you, to improve Samsung's awful UI (rounded corners look childish)
I found some Pixel/AOSP10 themes that I applied, however, they caused some issues within some applications. For example, in WhatsApp, the message bubbles for both my messages and the recipient's messages became the same black colour so it wasn't easy to distinguish between each other's messages. I think this might be because Hex tells you to apply the High Contrast theme (which I assume is a 'base' that Hex uses to them) and it's the High Contrast theme that's making WhatsApp the way it is.
Is it possible to fix this issue? Like somehow exclude WhatsApp from a list of applications to theme?
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Absolutely!
When you click on Hex -> Personalise -> Apps -> Unselect apps you don't want Hex to theme.
I have unselected WhatsApp, Google Maps, Snapchat, Google, and a few others. Theming looks awful on a few of them so I don't bother. Love Samsung's messages, phone, and a few others though.

AhsanU said:
Nova works, but not well. Besides native gestures still being slightly buggy, the front display copies the main display layout and is chaotic since it crams everything in the tiny display. Unless you have tiny as hell hands, you can't really use it. The native gesture bug is tiny but still there - when you swipe to go home, there's a small delay before you can actually tap anything on the screen. It's not a long delay, but enough to annoy me.
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I find this too. Curious to hear others' solutions to this.

AhsanU said:
Absolutely!
When you click on Hex -> Personalise -> Apps -> Unselect apps you don't want Hex to theme.
I have unselected WhatsApp, Google Maps, Snapchat, Google, and a few others. Theming looks awful on a few of them so I don't bother. Love Samsung's messages, phone, and a few others though.
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Thanks, found a guide online that said to do that and now I'm 98% happy! It would be nice to keep the titles and icons of notifications the same colour as the app they're coming from but I noticed the developer in the #Hex thread confimed it's not possible to keep that.
I also themed the Samsung Health app and then excluded it from the apps list when re-applying the theme but the icon remains the same. I'm guessing that the plug in is dictating the replacement icon and you can only have all icons from the plug in or none at all by deselecting it in the options .

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I think I'm a bit stupid, but I can't find the apk? I see the build and the 7.29MB ZFlip-Launcher-dee2c10 but no way to download

M4-NOOB said:
I think I'm a bit stupid, but I can't find the apk? I see the build and the 7.29MB ZFlip-Launcher-dee2c10 but no way to download
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Click it. May want to wait for "Fix loading friendly labels for installed apps" to finish building. That's the fully functional version.

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Click it. May want to wait for "Fix loading friendly labels for installed apps" to finish building. That's the fully functional version.
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Can't click anything there https://streamable.com/28ccyk

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Can't click anything there https://streamable.com/28ccyk
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It should be under Artifacts. It's highlighted in blue in the image. It's a zip archive and the apk is inside it. Github packages them.
Might have still been uploading when you opened it.

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It should be under Artifacts. It's highlighted in blue in the image. It's a zip archive and the apk is inside it. Github packages them.
Might have still been uploading when you opened it.
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Had to login, now I got it. Without login it doesn't let you

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Had to login, now I got it. Without login it doesn't let you
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Never knew that. Things they should really include in the docs...

I have to fix an issue where launching the app on the cover screen requires you to kill it in the recent apps before it will launch again with the phone open.
Repository may look a bit ugly until I squash code written in the phone browser.

This sounds great. Too bad I really need s-health.

ione2380 said:
This sounds great. Too bad I really need s-health.
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Working on that.

Which apps have you gotten to work so far? Weirdly enough for me it was only the camera (with tiny cutout of the app, but it starts). No settings/gallery/contacts/maps/gmail/whatsapp and many other apps I tried. When tapping on them it just freezes and I have to press the power button the turn off the cover screen again. I do see them in the recent apps though, they just don't show on the cover screen. Just updated to the latest build, but same results besides not seeing them in recent apps anymore

Basically all my apps work, but I have to kill / click them in recents when opening the screen to launch them again. Still trying to resolve that.

Interesting, just got my Flip a couple days ago and although I would hate too uninstall Samsung Health, I'm curious if you would be able to watch a little mini Youtube video on the cover screen with this app, has anyone tried it?

twistedumbrella said:
Basically all my apps work, but I have to kill / click them in recents when opening the screen to launch them again. Still trying to resolve that.
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Weird I can't get any I try to work (besides camera). The list just freezes (can't scroll up/down/left/right) when trying to start them

I updated the limitations list to document some of the current issues and how to work around them.
Until there is a proper API for cover widgets, some of them may be unavoidable (ie. keyboard)
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Interesting, just got my Flip a couple days ago and although I would hate too uninstall Samsung Health, I'm curious if you would be able to watch a little mini Youtube video on the cover screen with this app, has anyone tried it?
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Yes, videos do appear to work in the YouTube app, sound and all.

Edit: FIXED. (Mostly)
If you open the screen with an app running on the cover, it will resume. If you tap power while running an app on the cover, it will add the app to recent tasks and resume it normally when opening the screen.
Some apps still burn out (ie Firefox) and don't always launch. It's rare, but still worth looking into to avoid the inconvenience.

For those who installed a previous version ("Remove unused activities and resources" or earlier):
You may need to uninstall to install the newest version. This is part of an effort to get this widget running alongside the Samsung Health app (or a slightly modified version of it).
In theory, using a 'sharedUserId' will allow two apps to exist with shared resources, as long as they are signed with the same signature. Since Samsung Health can be uninstalled (making it a user app), it should be possible to use the signature from this widget and the sharedUserId to make a modified version of the app without the widget that will run alongside it.

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Builds are now mirrored to releases, so hopefully that removes the login requirement

Not sure why, but I can't start any app, it's just freezing the cover screen when tapping on an app. No app worked. Restarted the phone then the camera was working (as in previous versions), sadly no other app still.. Also reinstalled and rebooted but no help.

From what I've seen testing launching some apps on the cover screen, apps need the
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manifest attribute in each of the activities you want to launch to allow them to be launched while the phone is locked. Otherwise, any activities launched while the phone is closed are queued to open on the main screen once the phone is unlocked.

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It's still pretty rough, but all the README and Wiki and whatever other nonsense is being repackaged into a single website to make it easier to navigate. It should be up and running in the next day or two.
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A complete home experience on the cover screen
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I will be going into surgery next week and may not be available for a bit during recovery, so I will try to get everything done ASAP. Thank you to everyone who has supported this project and made it possible to finally take the time off needed to breathe normally again.

SamSprung was released one year ago today as the first app launcher for the cover screen. With nearly 2000 new downloads per version and over 800 builds released, we have reached over 1 million downloads. Cheers!

Just an update - surgery did not kill me and new builds should be filtering through as Google finishes reviewing them.

I love you so much this is my first flip and I am blown away by this neat app. appreciate ya.

Awesome! Anyone can compare this with CoverOS?

BackToAndroid said:
Awesome! Anyone can compare this with CoverOS?
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There is a thread for that. It's not really appropriate for the individual app threads (since I assume you want an unbiased opinion).

Are the launcher icons too small? I recently received a bug report saying they were entirely too small, but also feel like making them much larger will make the launcher seem clunky on a 1 inch screen. I run a DPI that makes anyone over 40 cringe, so I am a bit partial to smaller icons for person use. Are other people struggling with the app icons?

twistedumbrella said:
Are the launcher icons too small? I recently received a bug report saying they were entirely too small, but also feel like making them much larger will make the launcher seem clunky on a 1 inch screen. I run a DPI that makes anyone over 40 cringe, so I am a bit partial to smaller icons for person use. Are other people struggling with the app icons?
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To be fair I think it varies on the icons, like personally me I'm a big boy so got big thumbs but I hardly ever misclick something; but that's also as you said, 1 inch screen there isn't much you can do about it. Possibly having an option for size adjustment would be cool but I see no problems with it.

Google Play reviews are a little backed up, but new builds were pushed to improve the overall stability (and reliability) of removing helper views. This should solve a few of the issues with ghost screens preventing input and other bugs.

Is this no longer being developed?

Wiggz said:
Is this no longer being developed?
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The latest update was today. This thread is not a reflection of how active development is at any given time, though.
I don't really post announcements here because there isn't a whole lot to announce that anyone would come here to find.
Being open source, there is really no reason to explain what goes into each version. Downloads automatically show the changes since the previous version and building automatically happens when there are new changes. Google Play gets updated for every significant change.
Most bugs or requests get submitted through the app, so they aren't being posted here to reply. Any that aren't submitted to the GitHub directly come through email and are converted to GitHub issues.
This app doesn't have a paywall or features to unlock, so there is nothing to sell. It's kind of unnecessary to persuade anyone that a free app is worth trying because the price is already convincing.
Honestly, the lack of posts here is a positive sign that everything is running smoothly.

Yes, I am still here and still actively updating. TooUI now supports the Oppo Find N2 Flip.

twistedumbrella said:
Yes, I am still here and still actively updating. TooUI now supports the Oppo Find N2 Flip.
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Absolutely love it good sir.

i am using a flip 4. for some reason i can't swipe. i tried enabling/disabling 'gestures' but swiping left/right/up/down doesn't work once samsprung is launched. what am i doing wrong ?

hoolahoous said:
i am using a flip 4. for some reason i can't swipe. i tried enabling/disabling 'gestures' but swiping left/right/up/down doesn't work once samsprung is launched. what am i doing wrong ?
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Notice: Due to an Android 13 bug, touch is not passed to the stock launcher when TooUI is minimized. Double tap the SamSprung icon to temporarily disable the launcher until the screen is turned off.
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Android 13 enabled another of Google's brilliant ideas to disable the ability of any window to pass touch to windows below it.
There are a few exceptions. A completely invisible window (so basically malware) is granted the ability to pass touch. A window more transparent than the arbitrary maximum opacity of an overlay (0.8 or 20% transparent) can also pass touch, but results in the window under it being visible through the current one. The last, and my personal favorite, is accessibility. By requesting ANY accessibility feature, such as retrieving notification text, you gain unrestricted access to control the entire device.
Google's only method to control accessibility is to require that at least one use case fits one of the ones they allow and that you notify the user before requesting access to accessibility that you are going to ask them for access to accessibility. Put simply, you need a nag screen.
On top of that stroke of brilliance, they are now planning to add extra permissions and disclaimers for services running in the foreground.
This means that any service that is required to notify you it is running and maintain a notification reminding you it is running will now have to make absolutely sure you know it will be running through a series of nag screens and disclosures.
Google is trying to emulate the security promises made by Apple, but trying to pass all of the work to individual developers. The end result being a platform no less insecure than it was, but with frustrated users and developers doing a lot of meaningless work.

For me the newest github release from yesterday works better than the one on google play. Nice work, my friend.