General Pixel 7 Pro *does* support dual eSIM - Google Pixel 7 Pro

I have the factory unlocked 7 Pro and I saw some people say that it doesn't but I just decided to try it. If you disable the pSIM, you can run two eSIMs at the same time. The first try it seemed confused and asked me if I wanted to enable my pSIM then the settings window froze when I hit cancel instead of yes. I swiped it away and tried again and I'm now running dual eSIM!
This is extremely useful for me because I had to convert my Tello pSIM to eSIM in order to fix my 5G (Tello provisioning issue, not a phone issue) but I don't want to always be using my physical SafeLink SIM.
I fall in love with this phone more every day.
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Are there any apps available that will let you know which Carrier you are using?
I am assuming that if you were in an area with weak Verizon coverage, that your phone would utilize Tello and vice Versa.

diesteldorf said:
Are there any apps available that will let you know which Carrier you are using?
I am assuming that if you were in an area with weak Verizon coverage, that your phone would utilize Tello and vice Versa.
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Tello is set as the default for calls and texts, Verizon for data, and Tello is set to automatically use wifi calling over Verizon when the signal is weak.
This is awesome for me because I can park my Tello number that has 2FA for services that don't yet offer TOTP for $5 a month and then get whatever data SIM has the best deal as the other eSIM while having my SafeLink AT&T pSIM in the phone for an emergency backup. No worries about losing my phone number porting it all over the place.

Heck yeah! I just got my eSIM activated for Dual SIM as well. Unfortunately, it took 3 hours on the call with Verizon and multiple support tier escalations to get it done - not sure why it was so challenging for them.
In my case, both my physical SIM and the eSIM are on Verizon (but separate Verizon accounts - one I use for work and one for personal).

grangermoch said:
Heck yeah! I just got my eSIM activated for Dual SIM as well. Unfortunately, it took 3 hours on the call with Verizon and multiple support tier escalations to get it done - not sure why it was so challenging for them.
In my case, both my physical SIM and the eSIM are on Verizon (but separate Verizon accounts - one I use for work and one for personal).
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Yeah but you can do dual eSIM now and have your SIM slot free for something else too and switch between the second eSIM or pSIM is my point. It opens up a whole lot of flexibility that wasn't there previously.

EtherealRemnant said:
Yeah but you can do dual eSIM now and have your SIM slot free for something else too and switch between the second eSIM or pSIM is my point. It opens up a whole lot of flexibility that wasn't there previously.
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Ahhh I missed that part. I didn't realize there were two eSIMs, thanks!

grangermoch said:
Ahhh I missed that part. I didn't realize there were two eSIMs, thanks!
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Yeah it's pretty cool. Like this pops up when I try to enable my pSIM.

EtherealRemnant said:
Yeah it's pretty cool. Like this pops up when I try to enable my pSIM.
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So you have a Tracfone (Verizon) esim working on this phone? I can't get my Tracfone psim working on this phone (still works with my Pixel 6 Pro though). Spoke to Tracfone for 3 hrs with no luck. Even got a new psim. For the last 3 days I've been communicating with Google support. They said they escalated the issue.
In the meantime I got a Mint Mobile account and am using one of their esims just fine.

Lughnasadh said:
So you have a Tracfone (Verizon) esim working on this phone? I can't get my Tracfone psim working on this phone (still works with my Pixel 6 Pro though). Spoke to Tracfone for 3 hrs with no luck. Even got a new psim. For the last 3 days I've been communicating with Google support. They said they escalated the issue.
In the meantime I got a Mint Mobile account and am using one of their esims just fine.
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I have a SafeLink pSIM that the phone thinks is TracFone since they're the same company. My pSIM is on AT&T though because I refuse to switch to Verizon for it.
The two eSIMs are US Mobile (labeled Verizon by the phone and uses their network) and Tello (T-Mobile network).
I can run any combo as long as it's only 2 active at a time. The phone prompts me which one to use for data and sets the other as the default for calls and texts. They're both active and I have done test calls to each from my Google Voice and both ring - switching which to use for a text is a simple matter of tapping this indicator and choosing.

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So you have a Tracfone (Verizon) esim working on this phone? I can't get my Tracfone psim working on this phone (still works with my Pixel 6 Pro though). Spoke to Tracfone for 3 hrs with no luck. Even got a new psim. For the last 3 days I've been communicating with Google support. They said they escalated the issue.
In the meantime I got a Mint Mobile account and am using one of their esims just fine.
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Just to check, you have used the BYOD link on this page?
https://www.tracfone.com/activation
TracFone customer service was already lacking before Verizon bought them and has only gotten worse but usually their automated tools work well enough.

EtherealRemnant said:
I have a SafeLink pSIM that the phone thinks is TracFone since they're the same company. My pSIM is on AT&T though because I refuse to switch to Verizon for it.
The two eSIMs are US Mobile (labeled Verizon by the phone and uses their network) and Tello (T-Mobile network).
I can run any combo as long as it's only 2 active at a time. The phone prompts me which one to use for data and sets the other as the default for calls and texts. They're both active and I have done test calls to each from my Google Voice and both ring - switching which to use for a text is a simple matter of tapping this indicator and choosing.
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Ah, ok. Slightly different circumstances then. Yeah, I was very hesitant in switching over to the Verizon sim (was on AT&T) but all those text messages urging me to switch over just made me rip the Band-Aid off, lol.
On a side note, couldn't be happier with Mint Mobile on the T-Mobile Network. Got around 850 mbps download on it compared to maybe a little bit over 100, on a good day, with Tracfone in the same spot.
It is pretty nice we can use 2 eSims now.

EtherealRemnant said:
Just to check, you have used the BYOD link on this page?
https://www.tracfone.com/activation
TracFone customer service was already lacking before Verizon bought them and has only gotten worse but usually their automated tools work well enough.
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Yep, did that. I've been so frustrated with Tracfone over the years. Hours and hours talking to customer service and each time they transfer me to a "higher up" I get hung up on because their system is broken. I mean, literally each time. But yeah, with Verizon its gotten worse for sure.

Lughnasadh said:
Ah, ok. Slightly different circumstances then. Yeah, I was very hesitant in switching over to the Verizon sim (was on AT&T) but all those text messages urging me to switch over just made me rip the Band-Aid off, lol.
On a side note, couldn't be happier with Mint Mobile on the T-Mobile Network. Got around 850 mbps download on it compared to maybe a little bit over 100, on a good day, with Tracfone in the same spot.
It is pretty nice we can use 2 eSims now.
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Yeah I am sticking with AT&T until they force me off. Verizon is the worst here. The US Mobile SIM was just so I could see if eSIM worked lol, no chance I'll keep it after the 10 day trial.
T-Mobile is indeed excellent in so many areas. I've never seen higher than 560 but hey, 300Mbps during peak time is incredible when Verizon is running around 1Mbps at the same time and AT&T is around 50Mbps.
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Yep, did that. I've been so frustrated with Tracfone over the years. Hours and hours talking to customer service and each time they transfer me to a "higher up" I get hung up on because their system is broken. I mean, literally each time. But yeah, with Verizon its gotten worse for sure.
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That sucks. I would have figured that Verizon would only have one whitelist for all the MVNOs. Like my Pixel 7 Pro activated on US Mobile because despite being an unlocked model, it has mmWave, so Verizon added support right away while the unlocked Pixel 7s aren't supported and nobody knows when they will be.
The whole whitelist thing just irritates me period though. If my phone doesn't work, that's my problem, but don't take away the option for me to even try it.

This is very interesting, I have a Vodafone eSIM and a pSIM (2 different numbers, one for work and personal), I got a keepgo esim but I can't get both eSIMs activated at the same time, though. It says: Only one downloaded SIM can be active at a time. @EtherealRemnant What firmware are you using? 031?

emontes said:
This is very interesting, I have a Vodafone eSIM and a pSIM (2 different numbers, one for work and personal), I got a keepgo esim but I can't get both eSIMs activated at the same time, though. It says: Only one downloaded SIM can be active at a time. @EtherealRemnant What firmware are you using? 031?
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Yes, 031.
I wonder if it's region specific?

EtherealRemnant said:
Yes, 031.
I wonder if it's region specific?
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Maybe, yes. I can get the psim and any esim at the same time but 2 esims don't work, unfortunately.

emontes said:
Maybe, yes. I can get the psim and any esim at the same time but 2 esims don't work, unfortunately.
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That sucks. Hopefully they roll it out everywhere.

EtherealRemnant said:
That sucks. Hopefully they roll it out everywhere.
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Yep, I will try to ask Google One support to check why it doesnt work.

Interesting, just found this:
Does Google Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro support dual eSIM? Find Now!
Google Pixel 7 and 7 Pro are expected to receive updates for dual eSIM support by 2023. Here is everything you need to know about it.
www.ytechb.com
Linked the wrong article, that's the one saying it's not to be launched until 2023, all speculation anyway but might also be non compatible for now in some places.
On a chat with Google, will update this post as soon as I know more.

emontes said:
Interesting, just found this:
Does Google Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro support dual eSIM? Find Now!
Google Pixel 7 and 7 Pro are expected to receive updates for dual eSIM support by 2023. Here is everything you need to know about it.
www.ytechb.com
Linked the wrong article, that's the one saying it's not to be launched until 2023, all speculation anyway but might also be non compatible for now in some places.
On a chat with Google, will update this post as soon as I know more.
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Man I hope it doesn't stop working. I'll be so upset lol.

Related

Unlocked T-Mobile Note 5 runs on Google FI Network ;)=

Well here is an interesting tidbit, I just got my Nexus 6P as a device for driving for Lyft and after booting the Nexus with the Project FI Sim card to register it on the network I realized I didn't need two phones to drive for two providers so I dropped my T-Mo sim card in the nexus 6P as as expected she fired right up on the T-Mo network and I had no where to keep the G-FI Sim card, out of fear of losing it i popped into my Note 5. Well I shut down the N-5 and kept playing with the Nexus 6P. In the morning I tuned on the N-5 to swap and copy files and the T-Mo update rolled in with full 4g LTE % bars. So it seems our Note 5 will definitely run on the Google FI network at full speed FYI. See Upper Left Corner of Note 5 http:
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That's pretty interesting. Do you think it has to do with Project Fi using the Tmo network? If that's the case, then theoretically any unlocked Tmo phone should run on Fi
Well I think that's a stretch but our phone has almost every existing band which could also be a factor I'm sure. I have yet to drive all around Los Angeles or out of the county or state of CA but I will report my findings as I do travel. But none the less its a great discovery for sure.
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It would be interesting to see if it can actually switch between the different networks through. I know that you need Google Connectivity Services installed on a Fi device for proper functionality, and it does show as compatible with the Note 5. But if we don't have Sprint bands in our phone, then you'd be SOL as soon as you got out of T-Mobile or trusted WiFi coverage.
True, I haven't yet sat down and looked at Sprints cdma bands but I bet they are in this device.
The Fi SIM will only work on T-Mobile. It will NOT work on Sprint, in this configuration.
The Nexus's ESNs are whitelisted with Sprint, I believe.
wifiguru said:
The Fi SIM will only work on T-Mobile. It will NOT work on Sprint, in this configuration.
The Nexus's ESNs are whitelisted with Sprint, I believe.
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That hypothesis of not working on Sprint would seem highly improbable as long as a phone is unlocked and the device and sim card are not carrier specific the device should work as my phone is now as long ...again as the phone has the carrier bands to run on that network...as stated here on the Nexus 5: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/project-fi-nexus-5-how-bypass-googles-nexus-6-exclusivity-453947 . I have turned off WIFI calling and called my office...see here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/project-fi-works-nexus-6-xda-begs-differ.html
wiseguyy said:
That hypothesis of not working on Sprint would seem highly improbable as long as a phone is unlocked and the device and sim card are not carrier specific the device should work as my phone is now as long ...again as the phone has the carrier bands to run on that network...as stated here on the Nexus 5: http://www.idigitaltimes.com/project-fi-nexus-5-how-bypass-googles-nexus-6-exclusivity-453947 . I have turned off WIFI calling and called my office...see here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/project-fi-works-nexus-6-xda-begs-differ.html
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There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
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How does Sprint tell the difference from device to device? Do you think Sprint had all the Nexus 6 IMEI's that exist or were made released to them so they could specifically either admit or omit them?? Show me the FACT my phone is blacklisted? Where are you getting your information can you provide some links to relevant content?
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
What are the criteria for Whitelisted Devices and where is this data?
This is an excerpt from a discussion that a Nexus 6 user had trying to port over to "Sprint Only" not running on the FI network....again this is ONLY..Fully porting over to Sprint:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/...g_nexus_6_to_sprint_after_leaving_project_fi/
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wiseguyy said:
How does Sprint tell the difference from device to device? Do you think Sprint had all the Nexus 6 IMEI's that exist or were made released to them so they could specifically either admit or omit them?? Show me the FACT my phone is blacklisted? Where are you getting your information can you provide some links to relevant content?
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Another issue with Sprint devices is that they still do not rely solely on the SIM for programming. When Verizon made the switch to LTE, all programming follows their SIM as you change phones. But with Sprint, pulling a SIM leaves you with a working device, just no LTE. So that is likely why it won't automatically jump to their network.
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
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This is an excerpt from a different experience than wifiguru is stating here although it appears it worked at startup and seemed to from what the user stated failed:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...SIM-and-use-it-in-an-unlocked-Sprint-iPhone-6
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Google has already said it will work for other phones in the future. The service runs on a hybrid sim that allows it to go back and forth. Supposedly even older Nexus phones can't read this sim. But Project Fi is an Android only project. Just as the new iPhone sim will not work in an Android phone, this new sim will not work in an iPhone. Even if there was a work around for it, Apple would probably make a new update to lock the phones into reading only the new Apple sim.
Actually - I started searching today to see if anyone else had tried this yet, and while I didn't search too hard - the lack of replies on this thread might tell me something.
I got my Nexus 6 yesterday. I like the phone, but the service ... still not sure if I'm going to keep it. The voice quality sounds somewhat compressed and it is difficult to hear people sometimes.
However, I was bored at work today - or kind of bored - and decided to put the Project Fi SIM in my iPhone 6 (Verizon)
I was expecting it to tell me that the SIM card wasn't approved for use in this device, but to my surprise it actually connected to Sprint and I had LTE. So, I found out my iPhone is unlocked (w00t).
I tried to make a call, and I heard a blip (like a fraction of a fraction of a second of a voice), a few seconds of silence, and then the generic cannot complete this call (Probably because the device isn't provisioned for use on the Sprint Network).
I restarted the phone, and when I restarted it - it connected to T-Mobile.
So I tried to make a call, and it worked - it went through
So, I dug around in the settings on my iPhone, and a menu called "Carrier" showed up on the main screen, and when I opened it it said "Automatically Manage Networks" or something to that effect.
I turned that option off, and it scanned for about a minute and came back with a list of Mobile Networks:
T-Mobile
Sprint
Verizon
AT&T
Metro PCS
wiseguyy said:
This is an excerpt from a different experience than wifiguru is stating here although it appears it worked at startup and seemed to from what the user stated failed:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...SIM-and-use-it-in-an-unlocked-Sprint-iPhone-6
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Quote Originally Posted by J Wireless View Post
Google has already said it will work for other phones in the future. The service runs on a hybrid sim that allows it to go back and forth. Supposedly even older Nexus phones can't read this sim. But Project Fi is an Android only project. Just as the new iPhone sim will not work in an Android phone, this new sim will not work in an iPhone. Even if there was a work around for it, Apple would probably make a new update to lock the phones into reading only the new Apple sim.
Actually - I started searching today to see if anyone else had tried this yet, and while I didn't search too hard - the lack of replies on this thread might tell me something.
I got my Nexus 6 yesterday. I like the phone, but the service ... still not sure if I'm going to keep it. The voice quality sounds somewhat compressed and it is difficult to hear people sometimes.
However, I was bored at work today - or kind of bored - and decided to put the Project Fi SIM in my iPhone 6 (Verizon)
I was expecting it to tell me that the SIM card wasn't approved for use in this device, but to my surprise it actually connected to Sprint and I had LTE. So, I found out my iPhone is unlocked (w00t).
I tried to make a call, and I heard a blip (like a fraction of a fraction of a second of a voice), a few seconds of silence, and then the generic cannot complete this call (Probably because the device isn't provisioned for use on the Sprint Network).
I restarted the phone, and when I restarted it - it connected to T-Mobile.
So I tried to make a call, and it worked - it went through
So, I dug around in the settings on my iPhone, and a menu called "Carrier" showed up on the main screen, and when I opened it it said "Automatically Manage Networks" or something to that effect.
I turned that option off, and it scanned for about a minute and came back with a list of Mobile Networks:
T-Mobile
Sprint
Verizon
AT&T
Metro PCS
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This quote is exactly what I just said. Did you read the post?
"At the end of the Day - T-Mobile is the ONLY one that connected and still connected"
wifiguru said:
There's no hypothesis here, it is proven fact.
Sprint has a whitelist of IMEIs/ESN.
Put a Fi sim in a non-Fi phone, and it will not connect to Sprint -- no matter what you try to do.
Put a Fi sim in an unlocked Sprint device, and I bet it will work.
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This quote is exactly what I just said. Did you read the post?
"At the end of the Day - T-Mobile is the ONLY one that connected and still connected"
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Are we talking about the same thing here the author said "My theory with why Sprint connected for 1 time (and why T-Mobile connected and disconnected)) ..he did say "My Theory" and that was (iPhone 6 (Verizon) and also said
" T-Mobile connected and disconnected". Now I understand you are seeing this but he does plainly say " T-Mobile connected and disconnected" but I can tell you my phone is 1. Still connected and I have made over 10 calls and it has stayed connected all day so this would have to alter the authors "Theory" as he himself stated the term.
When the dust settles and the smoke clears and at the end of the day the author of your facts.. used the terminology "Theory"..hence me using the term "Hypothesis" now I realize you may not like that but that is the way it is until actual further testing is done and as of this point my phone has not been disconnected from the FI network which contradicts what the authors "Theory" stated.
(wifiguru) I am not here to have a urination match with you because I am here stating the the experience I have had at a personal real level and what I have stated is 100% factual and not simply what another author has stated as theory. I want to further explore what this could mean for this Galaxy Note 5 device the bands it internally carries and what possible benefits can come from that endeavor.
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Another issue with Sprint devices is that they still do not rely solely on the SIM for programming. When Verizon made the switch to LTE, all programming follows their SIM as you change phones. But with Sprint, pulling a SIM leaves you with a working device, just no LTE. So that is likely why it won't automatically jump to their network.
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From what another post stated as theory his phone connected and then failed but I am still 100% active on the T-Mo Network with full blown LTE 5 bars so I need to try and test this out in some for or fashion.
Day 2 No Change. I drove all over Los Angeles to Pacific Palisades and still have excellent 4g LTE! I have yet to drop connection!
U still suck.
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wiseguyy said:
Day 2 No Change. I drove all over Los Angeles to Pacific Palisades and still have excellent 4g LTE! I have yet to drop connection!
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Hmmm i'm also in Los Angeles and tried putting my Project Fi sim in an unlocked T-mobile Galaxy Note 5 and it does NOT work for me. Tried messing with the apns but no go on my end
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Hmmm i'm also in Los Angeles and tried putting my Project Fi sim in an unlocked T-mobile Galaxy Note 5 and it does NOT work for me. Tried messing with the apns but no go on my end
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I have been using my Google Fi SIM in unlocked 920T for months in Miami. Been traveling across country and just started monitoring what networks I'm using. Download app called Fi Info and you can monitor via widget the network and also force it to use Sprint. Haven't tried US cellular yet. I'm in Ohio now and it's working fine. Will see how it works when I land in Seattle.
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I have been using my Google Fi SIM in unlocked 920T for months in Miami. Been traveling across country and just started monitoring what networks I'm using. Download app called Fi Info and you can monitor via widget the network and also force it to use Sprint. Haven't tried US cellular yet. I'm in Ohio now and it's working fine. Will see how it works when I land in Seattle.
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Update: made it here and only had service where T-Mobile had service. No switching networks. Here's hoping the new nexus phones have a smaller footprint.
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Not Getting 4G/LTE on AT&T in the US

So I finally ran Speed Test at several locations on mobile and am only getting 2-3 mb download and 1-2 upload. I have never seen a 4G or LTE symbol next to the signal bars either, it's typically either H or H+. I am on the international model MHA-L29 in the USA, and I know that the locations I've tested my phone at have LTE for AT&T. I activated the phone 2-3 days ago. Is there something I need to do in my settings? Is there anything to check?
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Sure you have to put the correct apn.
@gm007 My options under APNs are "ATT Nextgenphone" (currently selected), or "ATT Phone". Should I try switching to "ATT Phone" and rebooting?
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@gm007 My options under APNs are "ATT Nextgenphone" (currently selected), or "ATT Phone". Should I try switching to "ATT Phone" and rebooting?
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Yes try,sorry im not in usa and don't know carrier settings. Maybe you can call ur operator to get the correct settings.
And look in the mobile network settings that you enabled 4g(lte),try the auto mode
gm007 said:
Yes try,sorry im not in usa and don't know carrier settings. Maybe you can call ur operator to get the correct settings.
And look in the mobile network settings that you enabled 4g,try the auto mode
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Okay thanks. And yes, 4G is enabled in the settings.
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Okay thanks. And yes, 4G is enabled in the settings.
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Let us know when you fix it ,good luck.
So my forum searching has led me to this path: Buy a cheap 4G AT&T GoPhone ($30), and call AT&T to update my IMEI with the IMEI of the new phone and tell them to activate LTE. Supposedly that worked on AT&T when the original OnePlus came out in the US and people were having the same issue I am having.
Just another update in case anyone is following:
I was able to get though the idiot AT&T prepaid rep and to a tech support guy last night. He said he is going to have them manually enter my IMEI into "the database" and see if that helps get me LTE. My phone is showing as "unknown device" to them right now, so he said check back in a week-ish and see if it's changed from "unknown" to "Huawei Mate 9", which will indicate that my IMEI is in the database. If so, then I check my speeds again. The tech support guy also confirmed that the idea of buying a $30 prepaid AT&T LTE phone and having them update the IMEI with the one from that phone would do the same thing. Anyway, now we wait a week....
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Just another update in case anyone is following:
I was able to get though the idiot AT&T prepaid rep and to a tech support guy last night. He said he is going to have them manually enter my IMEI into "the database" and see if that helps get me LTE. My phone is showing as "unknown device" to them right now, so he said check back in a week-ish and see if it's changed from "unknown" to "Huawei Mate 9", which will indicate that my IMEI is in the database. If so, then I check my speeds again. The tech support guy also confirmed that the idea of buying a $30 prepaid AT&T LTE phone and having them update the IMEI with the one from that phone would do the same thing. Anyway, now we wait a week....
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Jesus, you guys have it bad with your carriers in the US. Phone not working on LTE out of the box is insane.
Trixanity said:
Jesus, you guys have it bad with your carriers in the US. Phone not working on LTE out of the box is insane.
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It's just because it's an international phone and not officially available on a US carrier (yet). Still sucks though. Supposedly if I switched to T-Mobile it would get LTE out-of-the-box, which I may do if this doesn't work. Lucky I'm on prepaid so switching shouldn't be an issue if I need to.
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It's just because it's an international phone and not officially available on a US carrier (yet). Still sucks though. Supposedly if I switched to T-Mobile it would get LTE out-of-the-box, which I may do if this doesn't work. Lucky I'm on prepaid so switching shouldn't be an issue if I need to.
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I'd pretty much guarantee that I'd have LTE on my service provider as long as the correct bands are supported. So it seems like AT&T needs to vet every device for some reason.
Trixanity said:
I'd pretty much guarantee that I'd have LTE on my service provider as long as the correct bands are supported. So it seems like AT&T needs to vet every device for some reason.
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Yeah, they (AT&T) do have a "database" for devices, and some international devices are "unknown" unless they're specifically entered. And not just the general device, Huawei Mate 9, I'm talking about specific IMEIs.
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Yeah, they (AT&T) do have a "database" for devices, and some international devices are "unknown" unless they're specifically entered. And not just the general device, Huawei Mate 9, I'm talking about specific IMEIs.
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Yup, that sounds pretty bad to me. You're paying them for service. They shouldn't care that it's an AT&T or unlocked device. They get paid either way although it kinda sounds like they want to push you toward buying devices through AT&T by making you jump through hoops to discourage you.
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Yup, that sounds pretty bad to me. You're paying them for service. They shouldn't care that it's an AT&T or unlocked device. They get paid either way although it kinda sounds like they want to push you toward buying devices through AT&T by making you jump through hoops to discourage you.
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I guarantee you that every provider in the US wants you to buy phones through them. It is still capitalism over here There is definitely more bullsh*t to deal with if you bring your own device and/or do prepaid, including crappier customer service, but the trade-off is that it's cheaper and you can switch providers anytime.
Odd, I have a L29 on ATT and LTE works just fine. Put my SIM in and no problems whatsoever.
Funk2641 said:
Odd, I have a L29 on ATT and LTE works just fine. Put my SIM in and no problems whatsoever.
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Weird. How do you know? Do you see an "LTE" symbol in the bar, or "4G"? When you run Speed Test, what are you're DL and UL speeds? Where in the US are you located? Last question (for now), were you already on AT&T with an LTE-equipped phone prior to the Mate 9, and if so, did you just pop in the SIM (did you verbally give AT&T the IMEI of your Mate 9)?
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This is on Tmobile.
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Hey @DKM119, were you already on T-Mo with a LTE-equipped phone prior to switching to the Mate 9? If so, did you give them the IMEI of your Mate 9, or did you just pop the SIM out of the old phone and into the Mate 9? Just trying to prepare in case I do switch to T-Mo.
International unlocked phones refer to LTE as 4G therefore they show 4G icon. when you see 4G on an international phone it means you have lte. quick clarification
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Weird. How do you know? Do you see an "LTE" symbol in the bar, or "4G"? When you run Speed Test, what are you're DL and UL speeds? Where in the US are you located? Last question (for now), were you already on AT&T with an LTE-equipped phone prior to the Mate 9, and if so, did you just pop in the SIM (did you verbally give AT&T the IMEI of your Mate 9)?
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It says 4G in the corner
Haven't used speedtest yet - but using LTE Discovery, I'm on Band 5 in Atlanta
I've been using a SIM from an ATT-LTE phone - but I haven't bought a branded phone in years. I just popped the sim in and it configured itself. No APN input needed

Galaxy S8+ on Xfinity Mobile

OK. Like the title says. I have two Galaxy S8+ unlocked from Samsung. They are the U1 models. I ordered two LG X Power phones from Xfinity with the intention of using the SIM cards in the S8. I had to add the APN settings from the LG phones to get data working. The problem I have now is that I can receive text messages but I can't send them. Also when I go under call settings/more settings I get a failed to read data (Network or SIM card error. The S8 had extra APN settings that the LG didn't have so I'm not 100% sure that it is right. Anyone have an unlocked S8+ on Xfinity Mobile? Thanks in advance for any info.
OK. So I got text to work now. I had to do the carrier fw flash. Now I have another problem. Everything looks like its there as far a Xfinity APN, CSC, etc. Just having problems with 4G now. It wants to stay in 3G and the only way I can get it on LTE is to change from Global to LTE/GSM. It connects to LTE but then I can't make phone calls because there is no CDMA network. It's suppose to be VoLTE but for some reason that's not happening. Starting to wish I had just purchased the phones for Xfinity.
mlr_90 said:
OK. So I got text to work now. I had to do the carrier fw flash. Now I have another problem. Everything looks like its there as far a Xfinity APN, CSC, etc. Just having problems with 4G now. It wants to stay in 3G and the only way I can get it on LTE is to change from Global to LTE/GSM. It connects to LTE but then I can't make phone calls because there is no CDMA network. It's suppose to be VoLTE but for some reason that's not happening. Starting to wish I had just purchased the phones for Xfinity.
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Xfinity Mobile doesn't have VoLTE yet that could be why
le0.br4zuc4 said:
Xfinity Mobile doesn't have VoLTE yet that could be why
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Do you get LTE? I'm stuck on 3G. Is the VoLTE toggle there in they Mobile network settings?
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mlr_90 said:
Do you get LTE? I'm stuck on 3G. Is the VoLTE toggle there in they Mobile network settings?
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Yeah I have LTE+
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Yeah I have LTE+
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So...from what I gather from tech support at Xfinity, you can't just take a SIM from the LG X Power and install it in a Galaxy S8+ even if everything has been flashed. The APN settings appear correct comparing to what was on the X Power. All of the Xfinity software is there from the flash. It SHOULD be just like a Xfinity branded Galaxy S8+. I can't find any dialer codes that work to see what bands are enabled and priorities. Tech support said this would never work. He said you couldn't buy a used GS8 from someone and activate it. He said it becomes a third party BYOD at that point. So these Xfinity GS8+ phones sold on eBay to work with Xfinity probably won't get activated. I hear of people taking the SIM cards from the cheap iPhone SE and installing in them in iPhone 7s. I don't understand what the difference is.
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So...from what I gather from tech support at Xfinity, you can't just take a SIM from the LG X Power and install it in a Galaxy S8+ even if everything has been flashed. The APN settings appear correct comparing to what was on the X Power. All of the Xfinity software is there from the flash. It SHOULD be just like a Xfinity branded Galaxy S8+. I can't find any dialer codes that work to see what bands are enabled and priorities. Tech support said this would never work. He said you couldn't buy a used GS8 from someone and activate it. He said it becomes a third party BYOD at that point. So these Xfinity GS8+ phones sold on eBay to work with Xfinity probably won't get activated. I hear of people taking the SIM cards from the cheap iPhone SE and installing in them in iPhone 7s. I don't understand what the difference is.
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Uninstalled an Xfinity sim card on a Verizon G6 and it worked fine. I now have a S8+ I got from Xfinity but I also have a S8 I got from Verizon at home. I'll try it tonight and see what happens.
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
Uninstalled an Xfinity sim card on a Verizon G6 and it worked fine. I now have a S8+ I got from Xfinity but I also have a S8 I got from Verizon at home. I'll try it tonight and see what happens.
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Installed the SIM card back into my LG X Power. Now I can't get 4g on that thing.
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I don't see why it won't work. I bought the lg x power too, got it to work with an old Nexus 6p, my wife's iPhone 6s+ from Verizon, and currently with a mi note 2. The APN settings need to be right, and Volte needs to be turned off. I know the phones support it, and so does Xfinity mobile, but that might just be reserved for the phones bought through them.
Also, for texting issues, try different texting apps. I had issues with Google messages, but tried textra, and things worked great, including mms.
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I don't see why it won't work. I bought the lg x power too, got it to work with an old Nexus 6p, my wife's iPhone 6s+ from Verizon, and currently with a mi note 2. The APN settings need to be right, and Volte needs to be turned off. I know the phones support it, and so does Xfinity mobile, but that might just be reserved for the phones bought through them.
Also, for texting issues, try different texting apps. I had issues with Google messages, but tried textra, and things worked great, including mms.
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4G started working on it's own for both phones. Looks like there was a PRL update that corrected it. I exchanged the LG X Power for the X Charge because they are support VoLTE. Got the phones and had a mod on Reddit to get the account provisioned for VoLTE and everything started working! A tier 2 tech called to tell me they had enabled it. I asked about my wife's phone(she was using an S8+) and he said it had showed up as a Samsung device. Told him I had already installed the SIM card back in the LG X Charge and when he looked again he confirmed it. Said he would get with tier 3 and call me back. About 45 min later VoLTE was working on her X Charge. Installed the SIM back in her S8+ and everything is working properly.
I guess I jumped the gun on this anyway. I got the unlocked S8+ because Xfinity didn't offer insurance and I wasn't sure they were. There were complaints of Samsung not offering there insurance on the Xfinity phones. Anyway, now Xfinity offers insurance and they have $200 off the S8+! I only paid ~$640 for the unlocked versions. Not a big deal but I was trying to get this done before July 31 because they said unlimited was going to $65(wife uses a lot of data).
Hello, new to this forum but stumbled onto your post since I have the exact same issues you had but with S8 instead of S8+. Would you mind sharing where you were able to find the FW for xfinity? Thanks!
mlr_90 said:
OK. So I got text to work now. I had to do the carrier fw flash. Now I have another problem. Everything looks like its there as far a Xfinity APN, CSC, etc. Just having problems with 4G now. It wants to stay in 3G and the only way I can get it on LTE is to change from Global to LTE/GSM. It connects to LTE but then I can't make phone calls because there is no CDMA network. It's suppose to be VoLTE but for some reason that's not happening. Starting to wish I had just purchased the phones for Xfinity.
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I'd love to know as well cause I still can't send any text messages, I can receive texts, use data, and call though. I flashed the G955U1 firmware (USC) version and its much faster but I'd love to be able to use the U1 firmware but be able to text.
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Hello, new to this forum but stumbled onto your post since I have the exact same issues you had but with S8 instead of S8+. Would you mind sharing where you were able to find the FW for xfinity? Thanks!
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Same here, if anyone can provide some help on being able to fully utilize the unlocked Samsung S8 version with Xfinity sim it will be great. Phone calls work, and can receive texts but no mms,
Same problem for me with my unlocked S8 from Best Buy. Everything works except sending texts. I chatted with Samsung support and had already tried everything they suggested . . . factory reset, safe mode, different text app, etc. Nothing worked. They wouldn't touch the APN settings but I tried the same settings my LG X Charge from Xfinity has. Still nothing. I used this phone for three weeks on AT&T before switching to Xfinity and texting worked fine. So I know the phone is fine.
The only difference in the Xfinity APN settings on the LG phone is that the LG phone has a three digit username and password that is blanked out. I don't know if this makes any difference or if anybody has seen similar APN settings for Xfinity. This is so frustrating that I can't use my $700 phone with Xfinity.
did unlock xfinity s8 + when i insert t -mobile sim card i got 4g but getting this message
invalid sim card detected insert an xfinity mobile sim ........i did unlock the phone with code when i dial *#7465625#
everything off even netwok
I flashed Canadian firmware. Then I flashed the xfinity firmware, with the xfinity csc and I get Volte, and texting works. I originally had tmobile, flashed the us unlocked firmware and then I switched to xfinity mobile and I was having same issue as you guys until I changed firmware.
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Same problem for me with my unlocked S8 from Best Buy. Everything works except sending texts. I chatted with Samsung support and had already tried everything they suggested . . . factory reset, safe mode, different text app, etc. Nothing worked. They wouldn't touch the APN settings but I tried the same settings my LG X Charge from Xfinity has. Still nothing. I used this phone for three weeks on AT&T before switching to Xfinity and texting worked fine. So I know the phone is fine.
The only difference in the Xfinity APN settings on the LG phone is that the LG phone has a three digit username and password that is blanked out. I don't know if this makes any difference or if anybody has seen similar APN settings for Xfinity. This is so frustrating that I can't use my $700 phone with Xfinity.
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Thanks, but I've tried many APN settings including these. Still no texts working. Just ridiculous. I'd really rather not flash my S8 multiple times in order to just get texting to work.
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I flashed Canadian firmware. Then I flashed the xfinity firmware, with the xfinity csc and I get Volte, and texting works. I originally had tmobile, flashed the us unlocked firmware and then I switched to xfinity mobile and I was having same issue as you guys until I changed firmware.
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Why did you flash the Canadian firmware first? And did you need root before flashing? Did you follow a certain tutorial for the flashing?
Thanks!
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Why did you flash the Canadian firmware first? And did you need root before flashing? Did you follow a certain tutorial for the flashing?
Thanks!
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Carrier switch guide - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/snap-guide-flashing-standard-fw-carrier-t3627255

T-Mobile gm1915 no longer compatible with att's network

I know this might be a tricky question and I'm probably out of luck here, but I figured to still give it a try.
I currently have the T-Mobile's gm1915 op7 pro using att's network, and I was informed that this particular model will become obsolete once att phrase out its 3G service. Upon checking att's compatibility whitelist I realized that the only op7 pro model that att supports is the global/US unlocked gm1917 variant.
So my question is, is there any methods such as software spoofing that I could trick att's network into thinking that I have the gm1917 model?
The area I live in doesn't have T-mobile cellular coverage so changing carriers would be a pain , op7 pro has been a great phone and I would hate to give it up due to silly reasons like this.
Durian_Pie said:
I know this might be a tricky question and I'm probably out of luck here, but I figured to still give it a try.
I currently have the T-Mobile's gm1915 op7 pro using att's network, and I was informed that this particular model will become obsolete once att phrase out its 3G service. Upon checking att's compatibility whitelist I realized that the only op7 pro model that att supports is the global/US unlocked gm1917 variant.
So my question is, is there any methods such as software spoofing that I could trick att's network into thinking that I have the gm1917 model?
The area I live in doesn't have T-mobile cellular coverage so changing carriers would be a pain , op7 pro has been a great phone and I would hate to give it up due to silly reasons like this.
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I have the same model of phone and the exact same question. Although to add more info, it's not just that they are dropping 3g. They are also adding in "eSim" cards and requiring those. I suspect part of the reason the unlocked version of one 1+7p is allowed and the t-mobile one isn't has to do with eSim compatibility. I am however not sure and trying to navigate this bull**** REALLY quick. The sim card that came with the "free" phone att sent without asking provides full signal strength but I can't make any calls and I'm worried it maybe an issue that transcends the signal strength.
I don't get it, the gm1915 supports 4G bands right?
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I don't get it, the gm1915 supports 4G bands right?
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Afaik it's not just an issue of 4g bands. eSIm cards are (to my knowledge) different technology than regular sim cards. From what I'm reading it's not enough to know the phone is suppose to look for an at&t signal, but that there is a hardware component that allows eSims to program things differently.
I'm *REALLY* hoping someone will tell me I am wrong, but if I am correct this would also be why it wouldn't be enough to spoof info.
Ok I see. You need to reprogram the eSim.
If the phone's unlocked it should be doable.
GM1917 vs. GM1915 on AT&T
I'm leaning heavily towards getting a 7 Pro for my next phone. I'm on AT&T because it's the only game in town where I live. If I can get the GM1915 variant cheaper than the GM1917, can I convert it to essentially be a 1917 afterwards...
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Have you tried AT&T advanced tech support?
Keep trying, some techs know a lot more than others.
They already disabled my sim, so I called and complained and they turned it back on. The phone is fully capable, if it wasn't there would be alot of others that would have to be replaced. They can't afford to just shut down that many phones and loose customers.
On this thread it's stated it won't work because of VoLte.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comments/oteawg
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I have the same model of phone and the exact same question. Although to add more info, it's not just that they are dropping 3g. They are also adding in "eSim" cards and requiring those. I suspect part of the reason the unlocked version of one 1+7p is allowed and the t-mobile one isn't has to do with eSim compatibility. I am however not sure and trying to navigate this bull**** REALLY quick. The sim card that came with the "free" phone att sent without asking provides full signal strength but I can't make any calls and I'm worried it maybe an issue that transcends the signal strength.
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Do you have a source that I can look into? I believe Iphone 6 isn't esim enabled and yet still belongs in the att's whitelist.
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Do you have a source that I can look into? I believe Iphone 6 isn't esim enabled and yet still belongs in the att's whitelist.
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I am currently using WiFi while my tires get changed after factory resetting my phone and won't be near my laptop for some time. Sorry.
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On this thread it's stated it won't work because of VoLte.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ATT/comments/oteawg
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T-mobile listed the gm1915 model on the website as VoLTE enabled, and op7 pro comes with all the bands att could possibly use. But yes I believe this is part of the problem, currently VoLTE is disabled for my device.
I have a feeling that att just didn't brother to make niche devices such as T-mobile op7 pro to be compatible with its own VoLTE network.
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I am currently using WiFi while my tires get changed after factory resetting my phone and won't be near my laptop for some time. Sorry.
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no worries I was just curious
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no worries I was just curious
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You might also be able to grill the guy who answered on reddit for more info.
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They already disabled my sim, so I called and complained and they turned it back on. The phone is fully capable, if it wasn't there would be alot of others that would have to be replaced. They can't afford to just shut down that many phones and loose customers.
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Yeah it just happened to me recently, I also had to call in and get my service back on. But the representative told me that they're going to completely shutdown 3g service by Feb,2022. Which then the network will solely rely on VoLTE to support voice calls.
I have no problem getting LTE ,
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I have no problem getting LTE ,
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Is it just LTE or VoLTE? In my settings I only see the 2G/3G/LTE option being default while I couldn't toggle on the VoLTE. 4g LTE only transmits data whereas VoLTE is more refined and support voice over. This will be a problem once att retire its 3g service as now the phone couldn't use VoLTE to call.
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VOLTE is provisioned
Volte is just voice service(Voice over Long-Term Evolution) it is LTE . Ur just making phone calls on LTE.
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Volte is just voice service(Voice over Long-Term Evolution) it is LTE . Ur just making phone calls on LTE.
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wow yeah how did you get volte to work? Did you enable any settings? volte is lte, but I was just making sure becuase it's not necessarily the other way around.
There are many custom roms that will enable it. I still don't understand why people are having so many issues with the gm1915. I have mine one android 11, fully rooted and have working twrp, still have safety net and widevine l1. Only issues I have had is trying to get wlan packet injection with custom Kernal on Android 11. No problem on 10.
Could be that I know how to generate the qr code to decrypt the engineer app. To activate all the bands

Question What's better to use, pSIM or eSIM?

If anyone has been following my P7P saga, with the issues and problems.... Here's another question.
Currently my slot 2 eSIM is not recognized by Verizon's database, even though this phone was purchased directly from Verizon. There's a ticket that's been put in to have the slot 2 IMEI number entered into Verizon's database to fix this particular issue.
I had been having issues with my pSIM, so Verizon was going to switch me over to the eSIM to troubleshoot the pSIM, but couldn't due to slot 2 IMEI not being recognized.
I got a new pSIM today, and that seems to have fixed my calling issues. There the possibility that they may however switch me over to the eSIM in a few days...after my S2 IMEI is recognized by the system.
My question is... Are both pSIM & eSIM equivalent in all ways? Is it beneficial to be using one or the other? Basically, do I lose out on any feature(s) by having any particular one? Verizon tells me that only one can be active at any time as per my current contract. I could get both activated if I want to pay for it, for reasons of traveling to other countries for example.
Interesting. A sim card is superior as if it fails it doesn't total the phone. It can also be remotely configured as well as transferred to another phone; very nice if you have a backup phone as I do. Takes the carrier out of the setup loop. You simply slam the sim into the phone you want to use that day. Of course the carrier would love you to have a $eparate sim for each device. The manufacturer likes to save money with no physical sim with the knowledge if the esim fails out warranty it effectively totals the phone.
It's funny how they claim it's 70% more efficient but the last couple generations of smart phones generally have huge batteries and poorer SOT
Reminds me of Intel and MS; Intel builds more powerful hardware while MS compliments it with more overhead. Net result is little user gain.
That's not right.
esim just means that the data is transferred to the phone and its data/functionality is stored in the device's flash memory. This does NOT add any additional points of failure, since if the flash memory or some of the relevant circuitry fails, it will take out the phone whether you are using esim or psim.
What it comes down to is PURELY a matter of convenience. If you travel a lot, it can be more convenient to have the psim slot available to drop in a local sim. If you don't travel a lot, it can be more convenient to keep a psim in case you need to switch to another phone in an emergency. You need to think about what is more convenient FOR YOU and make the decision accordingly.
One additional piece of info; the routines that load the esim from the carrier are implemented in closed source binaries, part of gservices. If you don't trust those binaries, then you might want to avoid esim altogether. Mostly this applies to google-free AOSP distributions, like grapheneos (although they do have the option of installing gservices and esim).
^That's not right...^
The esim chipset mounts on the mobo on older phones. You are correct that it was integrated into at least the newer Qualcomm SOC's.
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Regardless it takes away end user options that only a sim card provide.
Lol, better security for the carrier...
Esim is still NOT ready for mass adoption!!!!
Psim all the way for many, many reasons!
jaseman said:
Esim is still NOT ready for mass adoption!!!!
Psim all the way for many, many reasons!
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I love my sim and expandable storage slots... and the options they give me. Been blowing off the new Samsung flagships for years now because they are less functional. The S23U is an expensive dud too.
Esim is generally better until you have to read out a 30 character EID to a support person. Usually persists through a factory reset too.
If you need to do a lot travelling or network testing, having physical sims might be better until esim MEP is enabled.
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it was integrated into at least the newer Qualcomm SOC's.
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In other words, I was dead on.
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In other words, I was dead on.
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Oh yes, you were magnification.
Unfortunately a psim is still more desirable...
I dig the eSIM. Annoys the hell out of me having to pull my phone out of my case to install a pSIM and I don't have to wait for the pSIM to come in the mail. Plus with all the carriers offering free eSIM trials, I could easily go 5-6 months of the year with free service for data and $5 plan for minutes and texts on my pSIM or a second eSIM (if they ever re-activate eSIM MEP, pissed that they removed it since it was working fine for me) as I upgrade yearly.
In my experience it comes down to the telco, some are great with esims others are truly horrendous. I have no experience with Verizon so can't help you directly. Before swapping I would get some clear answers from Verizon about the differences between each sim but more importantly the support systems in place if the esim goes wrong. I am OS at the moment had my phone stolen got a new one and my provider can't seem to get the old esim onto the new phone. It's been over 2 weeks and 32 hours of my time, so make sure you have really robust understanding of how Verizon supports esims. Good luck whichever way you go.
andygold said:
If anyone has been following my P7P saga, with the issues and problems.... Here's another question.
Currently my slot 2 eSIM is not recognized by Verizon's database, even though this phone was purchased directly from Verizon. There's a ticket that's been put in to have the slot 2 IMEI number entered into Verizon's database to fix this particular issue.
I had been having issues with my pSIM, so Verizon was going to switch me over to the eSIM to troubleshoot the pSIM, but couldn't due to slot 2 IMEI not being recognized.
I got a new pSIM today, and that seems to have fixed my calling issues. There the possibility that they may however switch me over to the eSIM in a few days...after my S2 IMEI is recognized by the system.
My question is... Are both pSIM & eSIM equivalent in all ways? Is it beneficial to be using one or the other? Basically, do I lose out on any feature(s) by having any particular one? Verizon tells me that only one can be active at any time as per my current contract. I could get both activated if I want to pay for it, for reasons of traveling to other countries for example.
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For myself I'm happier with having a physical sim card. I switch between my iphone 14 pro max and pixel 7 pro. I broke the screen on my p7p so I tried to use the esim since that's all you can use for newer iPhones now and with Verizon you need your current phone in order to do the switch on Verizon's website. Long story short I spent an hour chatting with someone and because I couldn't see the code they sent to the p7p to activate the 14 pro max I had to go to a store and show them my license. Than I spent another hour for them trying to activate the iPhone with esim . It was quite the pain in the butt compared to a physical card that you can just switch with another device until you get a replacement device
Same guys going at each other rofl
eSim is much better on iPhone/iOS than on Android 13. I have spent countless and unnecessary hours to fix T-Mobile prepaid eSim issues: redownloading, reading back IMEI/EID number to customer reps, error issues between re-installation of operating systems, etc.
I heard Android 14 would fix this.
Ofc my both sim providers dont do esim.
one question , so p7p accepts 2 esims and one psim ?
lowik2 said:
Ofc my both sim providers dont do esim.
one question , so p7p accepts 2 esims and one psim ?
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I think three esims, except only one of them could be active. Iphone can have two esims active, even if from the same carrier. A lot of catching up to do for Android 14
I have both a psim and esim, both on T-Mobile and there's constantly a significant difference between signal strength between the two. Psim simply gets better reception somehow, to the point the esim ceases to function.
Ducter said:
I have both a psim and esim, both on T-Mobile and there's constantly a significant difference between signal strength between the two. Psim simply gets better reception somehow, to the point the esim ceases to function.View attachment 5858349
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with each security update, it appears the eSim would be treated as associated with the older device. And you need to redownload it or reach out to customer service. At least that's my exp as prepaid customer. Maybe it's diff for postpaid who could manage this on their own

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