Im really unsatisfied with my s22ultra ive done everything i know or people suggested and nothing helped i think next time i go xiaomi or apple. Thats it
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After looking pictures of all these threads you made about this problem it's looks like pretty normal. There is no phone in the world that doesn't drain battery if you doing something with it. Apps drain battery and games drain even more battery.
Previous threads.
Real bad battery
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
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Battery sucks
Did anyone found a way to get more battery from the s22 ultra i get like 3h sot . Today it went from 85 to 60 in 40min i was playing a game but thats was really quick .. i rather buy an iphone just for the battery and performance. But i really...
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The problem is the SOC is inefficient because of Samsung fabs poor 4nm manufacturing node (both Exynos and Snapdragon were manufactured on this node). Nothing will help, it'll take the S23u with TSMC manufacturing the new SOCs to get good battery life.
Iyad22 said:
Im really unsatisfied with my s22ultra ive done everything i know or people suggested and nothing helped i think next time i go xiaomi or apple. Thats it
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If you're not satisfied with S22Ultra you won't be satisfied either with Xiaomi or any other brand, ESPECIALLY Xiaomi and their garbage OS.
Your usage seems pretty normal and the fact that you have DUAL sims and play games, your battery looks fine. NONE phone will provide drastically more power with this kind of usage.
Dayuser said:
After looking pictures of all these threads you made about this problem it's looks like pretty normal. There is no phone in the world that doesn't drain battery if you doing something with it. Apps drain battery and games drain even more battery.
Previous threads.
Real bad battery
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
forum.xda-developers.com
Battery sucks
Did anyone found a way to get more battery from the s22 ultra i get like 3h sot . Today it went from 85 to 60 in 40min i was playing a game but thats was really quick .. i rather buy an iphone just for the battery and performance. But i really...
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max
ekin_strops said:
If you're not satisfied with S22Ultra you won't be satisfied either with Xiaomi or any other brand, ESPECIALLY Xiaomi and their garbage OS.
Your usage seems pretty normal and the fact that you have DUAL sims and play games, your battery looks fine. NONE phone will provide drastically more power with this kind of usage.
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max ..... they say the 12s ultra can get alot more battery or maybe even the new pixel 7pro
Iyad22 said:
I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max ..... they say the 12s ultra can get alot more battery or maybe even the new pixel 7pro
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Do you use DUAL SIM in your 13 Pro Max? (Rhetorical question).
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Do you use DUAL SIM in your 13 Pro Max? (Rhetorical question).
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Its 1 sim . Plus i used to use my s22 ultra with only one i got the new sim last month or so
I also feel like the battery it's the biggest problem of this phone . Everything else it's good for me , except for some hy temperature sometimes with it's random but mostly when it's hot outside.
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I also feel like the battery it's the biggest problem of this phone . Everything else it's good for me , except for some hy temperature sometimes with it's random but mostly when it's hot outside.
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Watch this, it explains why. The TSMC SOCs in the s23 series should fix it but the s22 series is not good for efficiency .https://youtu.be/s0ukXDnWlTY
Thank you. Now I know the problem. But also I still don't really understand why it's taking so much battery while it's in stad by ... like the cpu should not be in use then right? I love this phone but this battery it's just awful... anyway thank you for the video. It was useful
justkta said:
Thank you. Now I know the problem. But also I still don't really understand why it's taking so much battery while it's in stad by ... like the cpu should not be in use then right? I love this phone but this battery it's just awful... anyway thank you for the video. It was useful
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To my shock today i dont know how but just happened...... plus i never have temperature issue
Next time go Poco No use in overpaying for performance when it's not backed up by a good battery. Also... Samsung, with their well known battery issues. No, thank you. Take that advice as you wish.
Tomo123 , I don't even belive what I see there I think maybe you can make this when you let your phone at home and not using it
Iyad22 said:
To my shock today i dont know how but just happened...... plus i never have temperature issue
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I have always goof battery with the Samsung phones at the beginning like 2 -3 mounts it last like 5-6 hours of screen on time and like 20 hours of stand by , but after this period it's just too awful maximum 3-4 hours with maximum 6-8 hours of stand by I think that it's not even making it 20 hours only with stand by but I don't know why exactly it's this happening
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Tomo123 , I don't even belive what I see there I think maybe you can make this when you let your phone at home and not using it
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My dear man, I really don't care if you believe it or not. It just goes to show you have no idea on how to properly optimize the phone you are using. But I am not here to spoon-feed you, learn it yourself... or live in ignorance. Your choice. Have a nice day.
The problem is the kernel not the cpu fab. A quick simple watch of the cpu frequency behavior shows this with ZERO hot plugging and to high idle frequency. I'm not talking how the old hotplug governor was. I'm talking when you turn the screen off the cpus don't hotplug and don't go under 600mhz 4 core. Very very bad for better life and simply fixing this will make the phone last loads longer for standby and adding hotpluging with lower 200mhz idle till screen touch then ramp to 600mhz will add loads of screen on time. I'm not surprised this is forgotten in a world of root is bad but back in the evo3D days you could pm power=0 and get 30 days on a hotplug governor. It's there, we just need custom kernel or Samsung (very unlikely) to fix said issues
In the S22 series, while Snapdragon variant doesn't have great batterylife, the Exynos variant is even worse.
And to improve the endurance, there are 100's of threads that will help to give you some relief. That's all.
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Now a days I am experiencing such poor battery life. I am not able to track the exact reason of it.
This is my configuration
1. Stock XXKPQ with tarunagg's ICS rom. Latest BCK kernel with 1ghz max & 300 min freq.
2. Screen off profile in set cpu with max 300 mhz & max 300 mhz for better battery life.
3. smartassv2 & sio
4. Freezed most off the unwanted stock bloatware like maps, layer & many more.
5. Purposefully I kept autusync off for batter battery life.
6. I use 2g net alot for surfing & downloading whole day.
7. Not using any scripts or tweaks.
8. Brightness is kept at lowest level.
9. Phone can easily enter into deep sleep mode.
I am posting screenshots of battery life. From screenshot you can see that my screen is awake more than 4 hours & it consumes more than 60%. I already mentioned that my screen brightness is lowest then why my phone sonsumes such a huge battery...? Now my phone is 1.2 year old.
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Have a look on betterbatterystats?
Already I have seen in batterystat. But nothing new info I am getting in that.
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Already I have seen in batterystat. But nothing new info I am getting in that.
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vishal
try to wipe .and reboot
some app hold on
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2. Screen off profile in set cpu with max 300 mhz & max 300 mhz for better battery life.
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My testing showed that this actually consumes more power. But anyway, the screen-off state is not your problem.
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That actually consumes a lot of battery. If you're surfing, use 3G or even better WiFi. Per unit of transferred data, WiFi consumes the least power. Turn it off after surfing.
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1. Stock XXKPQ with tarunagg's ICS rom. Latest BCK kernel with 1ghz max & 300 min freq.
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You are using a custom ROM. I would bet that there a re lots of tweaks included as is. Maybe this is one more problem, maybe not.
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I am posting screenshots of battery life. From screenshot you can see that my screen is awake more than 4 hours & it consumes more than 60%.
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And there you have your main reason for a short battery life. The screen is the biggest consumer in any modern touchscreen phone and there is nothing you can do about that.
10 hours off charge with 4 hours display time? I'm jealous.
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vishal
try to wipe .and reboot
some app hold on
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wiped dalvik cache & cache many times but i have not experienced any major improvement.
XDA_Bam said:
My testing showed that this actually consumes more power. But anyway, the screen-off state is not your problem.
That actually consumes a lot of battery. If you're surfing, use 3G or even better WiFi. Per unit of transferred data, WiFi consumes the least power. Turn it off after surfing.
You are using a custom ROM. I would bet that there a re lots of tweaks included as is. Maybe this is one more problem, maybe not.
And there you have your main reason for a short battery life. The screen is the biggest consumer in any modern touchscreen phone and there is nothing you can do about that.
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I think you are right. 2g consumes alot of battery than 3g & wifi. But in india 3g is like very much costly. So for net purpose I have to use 2g.
I am using stock xxkpq rom & not any custom rom.
Leaving my phone on wifi the whole day+at least 5 hrs of usage gives me about 10hrs battery life at least
Cheers
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Actually I should not compare like this (because comparison is of different OS which are at different level) but my friend have nokia n8 phone with more brightness than our phone. Also its daily phone usage is nearly like me. But it has superb battery life of nearly 26 hours easily.
Androis is great OS but cursed with huge battery drain. Developers of google have to do something about this. Dont u think so guys...?
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Actually I should not compare like this (because comparison is of different OS which are at different level) but my friend have nokia n8 phone with more brightness than our phone. Also its daily phone usage is nearly like me. But it has superb battery life of nearly 26 hours easily.
Androis is great OS but cursed with huge battery drain. Developers of google have to do something about this. Dont u think so guys...?
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Its true that symbian phones get good battery life.. i have a C7..
its just that symbian phone aint resourse hungry, n c7(or n8) has oly 678mhz processor.. display smaller n its AMOLED.., n also t os doesn handle much activities lyk an android..
hence the battery consumption s less..
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Actually I should not compare like this (because comparison is of different OS which are at different level) but my friend have nokia n8 phone with more brightness than our phone. Also its daily phone usage is nearly like me. But it has superb battery life of nearly 26 hours easily.
Androis is great OS but cursed with huge battery drain. Developers of google have to do something about this. Dont u think so guys...?
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That's not a fair comparison.
N8: 3,5" AMOLED, 640×360 px
I9003: 4" LCD, 800x480 px
And from your screenshot it's obviuos that the main problem is the screen, maybe you keep it too high.
And by the way your battery life it's not that bad, I get few more hours than you.
may be ur battery is becoming old and has been degraded!!
have u checked for it??
loSconosciuto said:
That's not a fair comparison.
N8: 3,5" AMOLED, 640×360 px
I9003: 4" LCD, 800x480 px
And from your screenshot it's obviuos that the main problem is the screen, maybe you keep it too high.
And by the way your battery life it's not that bad, I get few more hours than you.
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May be you are right. But I have observed my friend's galaxy ace with purely stock rom which has nearly same specs like nokia c7 or n8. It has same ram, processor, screen size etc. But is has worst battery life. Android OS can handle lots of resources but like my friends tease me that whats the use of such OS if someone cant use his android phone more than just 10 hours???
sachin sharma said:
may be ur battery is becoming old and has been degraded!!
have u checked for it??
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how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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May be you are right. But I have observed my friend's galaxy ace with purely stock rom which has nearly same specs like galaxy ace. It has same ram, processor, screen size etc. But is has worst battery life. Android OS can handle lots of resources but like my friends tease me that whats the use of such OS if someone cant use his android phone more than just 10 hours???
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Firstly switch to wifi whenever at home.. It'll highly reduce battery consumption.. Also always use oly 2g mode.. Cuz searching for 3g signal consumes more battery..
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how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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May b u can Chk if the battery is swollen..
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vishal24387 said:
how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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Nah your battery hasn't degraded. Trust me
Cheers
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vishal24387 said:
May be you are right. But I have observed my friend's galaxy ace with purely stock rom which has nearly same specs like nokia c7 or n8. It has same ram, processor, screen size etc. But is has worst battery life. Android OS can handle lots of resources but like my friends tease me that whats the use of such OS if someone cant use his android phone more than just 10 hours???
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Well, it's always AMOLED vs LCD, but probably Symbian is better in this, but it's less powerful than Android.
vishal24387 said:
how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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mmm, maybe this:
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
and see your battery health.
Anyway I don't think there's an easy and reliable way to know if your battery is good or not.
I know, I always post this, but it's a good article IMO: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries (the graph itself shows you how much the battery capacity degrades)
bscraze said:
Nah your battery hasn't degraded. Trust me
Cheers
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Ya my battery is good. Its not swollen. I think its now older & due to 2g network battery is draining alot.
Hi! I'm interested in G Flex 2 because of Snapdragon 810 chipset and great screen. How is your experience so far? I would be greatful if you answer me few questions:
1) I really hate lag - even a slight lag can destroy my experience. I had to sell my LG G2 because of the lag. G Flex 2 was pretty laggy phone with 5.0. Did LG improve performance with 5.1.1 update?
2) How is the screen? Any issues?
3) Is overheating real? (I dont care about hot back cover, but I dont want to have my experience ruined because of extremely laggy throttling phone
4) How good is battery life? I don't need 2 days, just 3-4 hours of on screen time. Is that possible without issues?
5) Any other known issues with the phone?
EDIT: Btw guys, I wrote to LG and got official answer: LG G Flex 2 will recieve 6.0 right after G4.
Thank you very much!
45 minutes of screen, 12% battery drain....
4-5 hs of screen with no gamed is really possible. With no problem at all.
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The really problem is sync apps, like any other phone...
Heat is no problem for me at all, no intensive gamer, but can play rr3 or fifa 16 with no lag at all with 5.1.1
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pelelademadera said:
45 minutes of screen, 12% battery drain....
4-5 hs of screen with no gamed is really possible. With no problem at all.View attachment 3501017View attachment 3501018
The really problem is sync apps, like any other phone...
Heat is no problem for me at all, no intensive gamer, but can play rr3 or fifa 16 with no lag at all with 5.1.1
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Thank you! And speed of user interface - launching apps, animations.. everything smooth and fluid so far?
Yes sr, for me no problem at all
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Yes sr, for me no problem at all
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Thank you! I will give it a go.
And what about build quality?
I have to say that the experience was not that great at first. The bloatware slowed down the device a lot for me. But since I rooted and deleted that stuff, everything runs great. No lags, no overheating(I'm not playing games), great batterylife.
The only problem is that the screen is grainy when displaying some colors(eg. Grey and Orange)
So I would say, if you're giving it a go you should most likely root it.
5-6hrs is possible (sot). Battery is worse than my G2 (nowhere near Moto E either), but better than my Zenfone 2 at least. I did have to tweak the device like crazy to get it to behave like this.
Gizmo648 said:
I have to say that the experience was not that great at first. The bloatware slowed down the device a lot for me. But since I rooted and deleted that stuff, everything runs great. No lags, no overheating(I'm not playing games), great batterylife.
The only problem is that the screen is grainy when displaying some colors(eg. Grey and Orange)
So I would say, if you're giving it a go you should most likely root it.
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Performance with 5.1.1 is now fine, right?
Grainy screen, hmm.. Now I'm little bit worried.
Michalko5896 said:
Performance with 5.1.1 is now fine, right?
Grainy screen, hmm.. Now I'm little bit worried.
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Yeah, it's fine
On 5.1.1 rooted. I still have lag. Battery is horrible, and it gets hot.
What apps are y'all debloating? Don't know how y'all can get 5 hours screen time. My phone is 3 weeks old
SayWhat10 said:
On 5.1.1 rooted. I still have lag. Battery is horrible, and it gets hot.
What apps are y'all debloating? Don't know how y'all can get 5 hours screen time. My phone is 3 weeks old
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63148509
LG MLT is the main one you'll want to disable. It can be disabled from the hidden menu or with titanium backup. There's also carrierIQ, but that can be turned off from 3c toolbox or "myAndroidtools". There's a list of other things, all in all very time consuming.
SayWhat10 said:
On 5.1.1 rooted. I still have lag. Battery is horrible, and it gets hot.
What apps are y'all debloating? Don't know how y'all can get 5 hours screen time. My phone is 3 weeks old
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wtf? I'm really confused now.. Is it really that bad?
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wtf? I'm really confused now.. Is it really that bad?
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EVerybody's mileage will differ, but for me its bad. I really want to get a new phone (different one),but not trying to spend the money.
I get about 2hours of screen on time, and I can post pictures of my high temperatures, gets hot quick. I can pretty much never turn the screen on full brightness because there's some limiter that will say "max is 70% because of the temperature". This is the ONLY phone in my life of smartphones that i cant turn the screen fully brights, its horrid
I just froze a lot of the apps from the above posters comment, i'll see how it does
I had lag on my galaxy tab S, but i put CM12.1 on there and it flies. Of course the bootloader is locked here so we're stuck for now
SayWhat10 said:
EVerybody's mileage will differ, but for me its bad. I really want to get a new phone (different one),but not trying to spend the money.
I get about 2hours of screen on time, and I can post pictures of my high temperatures, gets hot quick. I can pretty much never turn the screen on full brightness because there's some limiter that will say "max is 70% because of the temperature". This is the ONLY phone in my life of smartphones that i cant turn the screen fully brights, its horrid
I just froze a lot of the apps from the above posters comment, i'll see how it does
I had lag on my galaxy tab S, but i put CM12.1 on there and it flies. Of course the bootloader is locked here so we're stuck for now
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Multiple LG models prevent max brightness due to temperature, it's just to protect the device from generating more heat until it cools down a bit.
Your high temps (guessing 44-60°C) are caused by the chip being stressed by some app or apps you have installed. Certain apps such as YouTube 720p60/1080p60), games, etc. will make it warm regardless.
Michalko5896 said:
Hi! I'm interested in G Flex 2 because of Snapdragon 810 chipset and great screen. How is your experience so far? I would be greatful if you answer me few questions:
1) I really hate lag - even a slight lag can destroy my experience. I had to sell my LG G2 because of the lag. G Flex 2 was pretty laggy phone with 5.0. Did LG improve performance with 5.1.1 update?
2) How is the screen? Any issues?
3) Is overheating real? (I dont care about hot back cover, but I dont want to have my experience ruined because of extremely laggy throttling phone
4) How good is battery life? I don't need 2 days, just 3-4 hours of on screen time. Is that possible without issues?
5) Any other known issues with the phone?
EDIT: Btw guys, I wrote to LG and got official answer: LG G Flex 2 will recieve 6.0 right after G4.
Thank you very much!
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Just to add my $0.02: I think this is one of the best kept secrets in smartphoneland. I'm really enjoying this phone: I'm not experiencing lag, overheating (or heating in general actually) and battery life is very decent, but it did take some work getting it where I wanted it.
The update v15a+ definitely helps running the phone in a normal way, but I've taken some additional steps to enhance longevity.
1) Root (to enable additional steps)
2) Freeze/ remove bloaty apps (such as LG MLT)
3) Disable big cores 2 and 3: this effectively turns the SD810 into a SD808 with an Adreno 430. For me, I don't notice any drop in performance or smoothness, but it does help A LOT with battery life and temperature.
Now I get about 4 hours of SOT on average, which is pretty good For me this means about 2 days of typical usage (not a heavy user in that sense).
As for the screen: it is grainy, but that is something I've gotten used to. I came from an Xperia Z1 and that screen, though not grainy, was actually worse in daily use (viewing angles, blacks etc). The one thing I dislike about the G Flex 2 screen is the high minimum brightness setting. This is incidentally is my only big gripe with the phone.
So all in all: for €300,- (and a little elbow grease) this is a really nice phone.
krispijn_s said:
Just to add my $0.02: I think this is one of the best kept secrets in smartphoneland. I'm really enjoying this phone: I'm not experiencing lag, overheating (or heating in general actually) and battery life is very decent, but it did take some work getting it where I wanted it.
The update v15a+ definitely helps running the phone in a normal way, but I've taken some additional steps to enhance longevity.
1) Root (to enable additional steps)
2) Freeze/ remove bloaty apps (such as LG MLT)
3) Disable big cores 2 and 3: this effectively turns the SD810 into a SD808 with an Adreno 430. For me, I don't notice any drop in performance or smoothness, but it does help A LOT with battery life and temperature.
Now I get about 4 hours of SOT on average, which is pretty good For me this means about 2 days of typical usage (not a heavy user in that sense).
As for the screen: it is grainy, but that is something I've gotten used to. I came from an Xperia Z1 and that screen, though not grainy, was actually worse in daily use (viewing angles, blacks etc). The one thing I dislike about the G Flex 2 screen is the high minimum brightness setting. This is incidentally is my only big gripe with the phone.
So all in all: for €300,- (and a little elbow grease) this is a really nice phone.
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Thank you! Xperia Z1 has awful screen so thats no big surprise. And what about keyboard issues? My keyboard was not opening after 5.0 update on G2 and I saw same thing on 5.0 for G Flex 2. Is that fixed in 5.1.1?
Michalko5896 said:
Thank you! Xperia Z1 has awful screen so thats no big surprise. And what about keyboard issues? My keyboard was not opening after 5.0 update on G2 and I saw same thing on 5.0 for G Flex 2. Is that fixed in 5.1.1?
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I guess they fixed it?
I didn't run the phone with 5.0 for long; 20 minutes to be exact, only to update it to 5.1.1. With 5.1.1 I have not experienced any keyboard problems (not with the LG keyboard and not with Swiftkey either).
okay, thank you all. I'm really looking forward. I was huge fan of LG UI, loved KitKat on G2. This is surely my best buy - fricking Snapdragon 810 for 300€.
krispijn_s said:
3) Disable big cores 2 and 3: this effectively turns the SD810 into a SD808 with an Adreno 430. For me, I don't notice any drop in performance or smoothness, but it does help A LOT with battery life and temperature.
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Can you explain exactly how to do this? I tried something like this before but on reboot all cores were running
Since I got mine early I can post some
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seems like SD845 will be much faster this year
Reviews:
https://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-review-the-best-android-phone-dont-n-1823575944
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/08/galaxy-s9-review-rival-to-the-iphone-x.html
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17093588/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-phone-review
https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s9-and-s9-plus-review-video/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-s9-plus,review-5198.html
You can also check your chip bin by going through the download mode. Mine is all 10 out of 15 I guess
Thanks for the information. What names you say snapdragon will be faster this year?
That battery life indication isn't realistic at all after all those benchmarks. Should be much better when using normally.
This year thought this phone is boring me. Mine comes tomorrow but i feel dead about it. Will probably go back unless battery surprises me in a good way
lawtq said:
Thanks for the information. What names you say snapdragon will be faster this year?
That battery life indication isn't realistic at all after all those benchmarks. Should be much better when using normally.
This year thought this phone is boring me. Mine comes tomorrow but i feel dead about it. Will probably go back unless battery surprises me in a good way
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Well here's a fresh one from this morning, mind you I still haven't put my sim card so it's only wifi usage
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Well here's a fresh one from this morning, mind you I still haven't put my sim card so it's only wifi usage
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That scared me for a moment! Damn. But then I saw always on display in on. That's a battery hog I never use, on my mate 10 at 90% battery left I'm on about 1hr 20 minutes screen on time lol
There could be hope for the s9 plus yet. Thanks for updating
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That scared me for a moment! Damn. But then I saw always on display in on. That's a battery hog I never use, on my mate 10 at 90% battery left I'm on about 1hr 20 minutes screen on time lol
There could be hope for the s9 plus yet. Thanks for updating
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yep i usually dont use AOD but since i was busy benchmarking and some other stuff didnt tune the phone to my likings yet and AOD will definetly be off
looks like the NDA is up, reviews are flooding in for US/SD845 units
So first full charge today looks alright as it's the same usage I had on my s8 in the beginning minus AOD.
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Ok so here's my first full charging cycle results
Now here's another shot with 4G only and exact same set up and apps as before. Aod on all the time. I turned airplane mode on @2am then off @8am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKq6r2QggMk
Always preferred the Exynos and this guy has the qualifications to know what he's talking about. If anything it looks like they may under-clock the Exynos to the Snapdragon can keep up
They did under lock it but I think it's because of the battery/power consumption. When the device was tested on geekbench before the launch, lowest frequency was clocked at 1.9 and highest at 2.9 they lowered them by 200mhz each but it reached 9250 on those values. I think we will unlock them when custom kernels show up
Having various mixed results..
Still better then the SD version, not sure why the OP said it will be the opposite this year.
Savoury said:
Having various mixed results..
Still better then the SD version, not sure why the OP said it will be the opposite this year.
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Again look at other benchmarks ie gfxbench, webxprt speedometer etc
Well, theres a known scheduler bug, which maybe/not will be fixed with the upcoming March update. This should fix these problems.
@AndreiLux is looking at it maybe he will find something or maybe he won't we'll see. I didn't get the march update yet.
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seems like SD845 will be much faster this year
Reviews:
https://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-review-the-best-android-phone-dont-n-1823575944
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/08/galaxy-s9-review-rival-to-the-iphone-x.html
https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17093588/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-phone-review
https://www.engadget.com/2018/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s9-and-s9-plus-review-video/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-s9-plus,review-5198.html
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I'm not sure if maybe I'm misunderstanding something or not --- but aI thought all the talk was about what a giant step forward the Exynos device new processor was supposed to be -- thus making the Exynos far out perform the Snap this year ??
It is twice as fast as in single core performance and 10-20% faster than the sd845 in CPU but GPU is underwhelming maybe it will be fixed by a software
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@AndreiLux is looking at it maybe he will find something or maybe he won't we'll see. I didn't get the march update yet.
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I have the March Security Patch Update.
Seems it's still not fixed
Guess it's a governor bug or the Exynos is borked.
I'm facing overheating issues while using video call on my pixel 7 pro. So scare for this temperature 45*C while doing video call. My old pixel 4xl has no issue so far, still working fine.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
Damn it.. so my old pixel 6 pro always over heated and I just purchased a pro 7 was hoping it wasn't over heating and well
Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
Over what? 36C* is not over. At least no visible throttling.. winter is coming
I must be good then. I'm at 29.8C while using my phone
A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
The only video calls I use are WhatsApp, which I've done a few of on this phone. I've noticed they result in a slight increase in temperature, but no more than 38/39 degrees after about 10 minutes.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
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Normal usages is OK, battery temperature is around 38C, overheat happen while doing video call...
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A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
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I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
hello00 said:
Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
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No, this one is my last Pixel , I have been used Pixel 2XL and 4XL so far all ok and the camera is awesome, but this Pixel 7 Pro is overheating
Aunogohe said:
I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
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After the factory reset I made a clean instal of everything. I only migrate some videos with nearby function. Maybe you should try a clean instal without migrating your stuff first.
I just unlocked my Bootloader, setting things up and this phone is hot as hell. Hot enough that the Flash is disabled
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
MrBelter said:
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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Thing is the P6P hit 45C as regular as the tides without worldwide outcry of the phone or battery being damaged, you just had a lot of people (generally in very hot countries) saying my phone is too hot and i have not really done anything, it is hitting 45c all the time and my camera flash has been turned off.
Mine used to hit 45C just sat in my pocket when i was outside in the summer and i am in the UK where at 25C everyone is melting and moaning they cannot stand this intense heat while the rest of the world laughs at us for flapping on a warm day.
45C seems to be a magic number, it is always 45C and you very rarely see it go higher, 45C sounds like a thermal limit to me and maybe just like Ryzen this is how Tensor is set to run, hit the thermal limit first to maximise processor efficiency.
Of course i am probably very wrong as this is all speculation on my part, the reality is Tensor just runs hot like the Exynos processors it is based on I'd have thought.
My brother-in-law has a Pixel 6 Pro, and when I showed him my 7 Pro on a family gathering last weekend the first thing he asked about was the heat levels. He said he loves the 6 Pro, but the overheating on it is ridiculous. He said the phone was basically unusable when we went through a heatwave in the UK here a few months back were 40c was hit in a couple of locations.
My experience of the 7 Pro so far (I've had it just under 2 weeks) is 95% of the time it will sit between 30c and 35c in normal use, and occasionally tip towards 39/40 if you do something which stresses it. I've had it go over 40c on one occasion but that was after 4-5 reboots in 5-10 minutes when I was messing around with various settings after rooting it. Overall it's been more than reasonable for me.
I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
Ky0sHiR0 said:
May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
It's also worth pointing out that, phone SOCs, like other silicon, can differ in quality. So one 7 Pro could run a task with the CPU at 33c and another seemingly identical phone run it a degree or two higher or lower.
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
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Are You using any custom kernel or just default one?
For the 7 pro? I have the US unlocked varient and it doesn't seem as warm as it once did. Jan update may have fixed it.
What build number is the Jan update?
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
31 C... after jan update - mb normal
dutch_in_seattle said:
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
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Thanks, was asking because I didn't get it, but then I realized I'm on the beta channel
My 7 Pro has never had a heating issue.
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What program is that?
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Battery Guru.
Cheers had forgotten about this one
The heating issues for my device were fixed after the December feature drop
Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
And if you wanted values, some battery meters showed as much as 1400 mAh peak drain while watching a youtube video at work on 4g (i have 5g blocked by google), just scrolling through Instagram gave me 890-1100mAh drain while heating my phone, where this value drops to 400-500mAh drain doing the same on Wifi. Idle messenger is like 320 mAh drain over Wifi, at least 900 over LTE. This seems good to you?
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to longer battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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Bro I barely use the phone ...No Twitter no social media , a little utube and music ..I have one game ...No emails ...10 minutes of calling and 10 text a day
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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Yes, the whole issue IS THE TENSOR G2. While it barely offers the CPU performance of the 865-70 (GPU is somewhat "decent"), it eats twice as much power. It's EXTREMELY inefficient and performs well below many other "flagship" SOCs while it consumes more power than those.
How much you pay for the phone doesn't automatically grant you a PREMIUM battery life. It may grant you a "premium" performance...
If you know the TECH that well, you would understand why buying a flagship device will never give you the "best" battery life, no matter how much you pay for the device. The reasons behind it is already mentioned in my previous reply. FACT.
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Sorry but this seems with no proof at all
I get the VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G things, which are indeed limited by Google
Not the "sabotage", even because on an unsupported MVNO the battery consumption was mostly the same as the host network
My P7P has run much, much cooler than my P6P ever did, it's never run hot.
It will only get hot for few minutes after the update. Your phone is indexing your file and optimising system app due to update. Those two process use a lot of CPU.
After it's done the phone should run normally. No Heat issue on mine. Unless i open the stupid youtube music which somehow use way too much cpu power