I'm facing overheating issues while using video call on my pixel 7 pro. So scare for this temperature 45*C while doing video call. My old pixel 4xl has no issue so far, still working fine.
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Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
Damn it.. so my old pixel 6 pro always over heated and I just purchased a pro 7 was hoping it wasn't over heating and well
Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
Over what? 36C* is not over. At least no visible throttling.. winter is coming
I must be good then. I'm at 29.8C while using my phone
A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
The only video calls I use are WhatsApp, which I've done a few of on this phone. I've noticed they result in a slight increase in temperature, but no more than 38/39 degrees after about 10 minutes.
xgerryx said:
Mine is at 35c in my pocket with the screen off listening to music. Battery draining like crazy.
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Normal usages is OK, battery temperature is around 38C, overheat happen while doing video call...
flashbac76 said:
A factory reset solved my problem with overheating and draining the battery.
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I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
hello00 said:
Gotta wait for the pixel 12 pro
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No, this one is my last Pixel , I have been used Pixel 2XL and 4XL so far all ok and the camera is awesome, but this Pixel 7 Pro is overheating
Aunogohe said:
I did factory reset, but I need to migrate all of my data from my old pixel4 xl, but it still happen overheat
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After the factory reset I made a clean instal of everything. I only migrate some videos with nearby function. Maybe you should try a clean instal without migrating your stuff first.
I just unlocked my Bootloader, setting things up and this phone is hot as hell. Hot enough that the Flash is disabled
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
MrBelter said:
My Pixel 6 Pro used to hit 45c if you broke wind and it heard you, thankfully my Pixel 7 Pro does run significantly cooler but video calling does seem to be a bit of an Achilles' heel of Tensor. Video calling however does push the radios, the camera and the processor so it is going to heat up innit and if 45C was too hot the phone would shut its self off in self preservation so is it really anything to worry about?
I am not saying this is the same with Tensor but the latests Ryzen processors are designed to hit a thermal limit rather than a power limit so they instantly hit 95C under load where as previously 95C was an absolute no no, you're going to kill the CPU so don't go there, maybe this is just the way forwards.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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The problem is the battery can't really exceed 45C without starting to degrade. And obviously it wouldn't be possible to hold a phone that was dissipating 95C worth of heat through the body lol.
That said, I did a video call today on Zoom for an hour and the phone didn't heat up even as much as my old 12 Pro Max did. I checked AccuBattery and the battery was around 38C which is like 1-3 degrees more than the normal usage scenario I've been experiencing and far from being concerning.
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Thing is the P6P hit 45C as regular as the tides without worldwide outcry of the phone or battery being damaged, you just had a lot of people (generally in very hot countries) saying my phone is too hot and i have not really done anything, it is hitting 45c all the time and my camera flash has been turned off.
Mine used to hit 45C just sat in my pocket when i was outside in the summer and i am in the UK where at 25C everyone is melting and moaning they cannot stand this intense heat while the rest of the world laughs at us for flapping on a warm day.
45C seems to be a magic number, it is always 45C and you very rarely see it go higher, 45C sounds like a thermal limit to me and maybe just like Ryzen this is how Tensor is set to run, hit the thermal limit first to maximise processor efficiency.
Of course i am probably very wrong as this is all speculation on my part, the reality is Tensor just runs hot like the Exynos processors it is based on I'd have thought.
My brother-in-law has a Pixel 6 Pro, and when I showed him my 7 Pro on a family gathering last weekend the first thing he asked about was the heat levels. He said he loves the 6 Pro, but the overheating on it is ridiculous. He said the phone was basically unusable when we went through a heatwave in the UK here a few months back were 40c was hit in a couple of locations.
My experience of the 7 Pro so far (I've had it just under 2 weeks) is 95% of the time it will sit between 30c and 35c in normal use, and occasionally tip towards 39/40 if you do something which stresses it. I've had it go over 40c on one occasion but that was after 4-5 reboots in 5-10 minutes when I was messing around with various settings after rooting it. Overall it's been more than reasonable for me.
I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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I also strongly recommend sticking the CPU governor on schedutil.
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May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
Ky0sHiR0 said:
May I ask why and what is the differences in your case?
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
It's also worth pointing out that, phone SOCs, like other silicon, can differ in quality. So one 7 Pro could run a task with the CPU at 33c and another seemingly identical phone run it a degree or two higher or lower.
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Once activated I found my phone spent more time closer to 30c than it did 35c under normal use. And for what I use the phone for I noticed no performance hit, although that might differ for others.
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Are You using any custom kernel or just default one?
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Hello all! I am running a simple battery app on my GT 2 7.0 that provides battery temperature. The highest I have seen thus far has been roughly 35 degrees Celsius. And an area of the tablet gets warm (not hurtful hot, merely warm). Is this a normal temperature for the battery? I am not familiar with the appropriate temperatures so figured I'd seek guidance from people with more experience, haha. I am not rooted or running any type of custom rom, just stock ICS that came on the tablet.
I am looking to get a case for when I am holding the tab as I find my hands do get warm while holding the tab, maybe that is causing the problem. When I had the SG Player 4.0, I installed a battery temp app, I noticed slightly warmer temps without a case.. I bought a case within that week and temps never went above 27 degrees Celsius, even when I was pushing the little guy a lot.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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the case should increase temp. as it prevent heat dissipation sooo weird !!!
Elixir has a widget with small footprint so you can monitor it.
Mine never runs hot and I oc mine to 1.4ghz. Doesn't feel hot anyway. I use a case on my tablet.
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Elixir has a widget with small footprint so you can monitor it.
Mine never runs hot and I oc mine to 1.4ghz. Doesn't feel hot anyway. I use a case on my tablet.
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Thanks for sharing the app and a screenshot!
It appears yours, during the time of the SS was running at roughly 40C.. And it runs fine? I suppose I get paranoid about such things, but mine never goes over 35C and doesn't stay that way for long periods of time.. Right now, it is running at 31C and I am locking/unlocking the screen quite a bit as I am using Facebook messenger..
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Hello all! I am running a simple battery app on my GT 2 7.0 that provides battery temperature. The highest I have seen thus far has been roughly 35 degrees Celsius. And an area of the tablet gets warm (not hurtful hot, merely warm). Is this a normal temperature for the battery? I am not familiar with the appropriate temperatures so figured I'd seek guidance from people with more experience, haha. I am not rooted or running any type of custom rom, just stock ICS that came on the tablet.
I am looking to get a case for when I am holding the tab as I find my hands do get warm while holding the tab, maybe that is causing the problem. When I had the SG Player 4.0, I installed a battery temp app, I noticed slightly warmer temps without a case.. I bought a case within that week and temps never went above 27 degrees Celsius, even when I was pushing the little guy a lot.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
Rotundjere said:
35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
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What could I do to keep temperatures down if I may ask? I don't do heavy gaming on the tab when I do run games. I am mainly using the internet in some form - browser, YouTube, etc. Thanks for your input.
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35c degrees is fairly normal, but never overclock your CPU if you don't want to have your gtab2 dead for the next 2 years
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I've run several android devices overclocked for years. My old evo has been oc for two+ years. Kid I sold it to runs ics on it overclocked.
So do some research on the subject.
Well, I am not wanting to or trying to OC my tab as I am too much of a "noob" for that, lol. Just curious about the temperature the battery is running at and all.
I find that idle, the temp can be around 30 degrees Celsius.. this is somewhat surprising to me, but it's my first tablet as well, so I suppose I worry I will cause some sort of damage or that it simply has a defect of some type.
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From yesterday, my nexus 5 is overheating. I controlled CPU and Battery temp with "Trickster mod" app, WITHOUT APPS RUNNING battery temp is 35°C and CPU temp 47-49°C. I cannot understand what's happened??? Until yesterday it wasn't overheating. My n5 is rooted but stock, with Default Franco Kernel (the same configuration i had in past months).
Can u install this app and control your TEMPS, please?
Can u say me if i should get an RMA and change my n5?
I live in India where the temperature's always between 30-35*c and hence, so is my CPU and battery temperature as well. During the night the average temp drops down to 25 when the device isn't being used.
Room temperature and weather around you play a major role in the average temperatures you get. Could be this case with you.
I would monitor the temperatures for a few days and if it doesn't settle down, I would flash back full stock and use the device for a while to see if it changes.
1) Room temperature is about 19°C, so it isn't the problem.
2) I already made all stock this morning, but nothing changed, it was overheating the same
3) If rooted, can u install Trickster mod app and tell me your n5 temps, pls?
vin4yak said:
I live in India where the temperature's always between 30-35*c and hence, so is my CPU and battery temperature as well. During the night the average temp drops down to 25 when the device isn't being used.
Room temperature and weather around you play a major role in the average temperatures you get. Could be this case with you.
I would monitor the temperatures for a few days and if it doesn't settle down, I would flash back full stock and use the device for a while to see if it changes.
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My battery sits at 27-30C when idling. The room temperature is around 24C.
Are you noticing unusual battery drain as well? If so, my guess would be that something is keeping your phone awake and running in the background. Try BetterBatteryStats and see if there are any wakelocks stopping your phone from sleeping.
And CPU Temp??
raptir said:
My battery sits at 27-30C when idling. The room temperature is around 24C.
Are you noticing unusual battery drain as well? If so, my guess would be that something is keeping your phone awake and running in the background. Try BetterBatteryStats and see if there are any wakelocks stopping your phone from sleeping.
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Franco is pretty buggy, try faux.
Johnny75_ said:
And CPU Temp??
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33C, but I wouldn't worry much about that. It's too transient to be of any use. If I open Chrome it spikes up to 45C+ very quickly, then settles back down.
Johnny75_ said:
1) Room temperature is about 19°C, so it isn't the problem.
2) I already made all stock this morning, but nothing changed, it was overheating the same
3) If rooted, can u install Trickster mod app and tell me your n5 temps, pls?
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You don't need root/trickster to get cpu and battery temperatures. Anyways, I'm on a custom rom (AICP) with ElementalX.
I am currently using whatsapp and the CPU temp has gone to 42*c and the Battery temperature is showing 33*c.. Room temperature is about 26*c.
As stated above, could be a app which is preventing the device from sleeping. Install wakelock detector and see the culprit.
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From yesterday, my nexus 5 is overheating. I controlled CPU and Battery temp with "Trickster mod" app, WITHOUT APPS RUNNING battery temp is 35°C and CPU temp 47-49°C. I cannot understand what's happened??? Until yesterday it wasn't overheating. My n5 is rooted but stock, with Default Franco Kernel (the same configuration i had in past months).
Can u install this app and control your TEMPS, please?
Can u say me if i should get an RMA and change my n5?
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lmao!
overheating? what world do you live in? you do realize that your body temp is 37C on average? so your battery temp of 35C is still cold! and a cpu temp of 47-49C is pretty cold as well. the safety shutdown for cpu temp is 105C, quite a bit away from 47-49C. your temps arent even halfway there! what you should stop doing is freaking out, and start enjoying your phone. speaking of, you own a quad core phone, when you use it, it will get warm. and if you use the cpu intensively, itll get flat out hot! and thats normal. our phones do not have anything to cool off their cpu, so it relies on the surrounding air to cool it off. unlike a desktop or laptop, which have active cooling systems.
Sorry, but now with 2 simple apps, battery is 40°C and CPU 65°C. When i call, my ear is boiling!!!
simms22 said:
lmao!
overheating? what world do you live in? you do realize that your body temp is 37C on average? so your battery temp of 35C is still cold! and a cpu temp of 47-49C is pretty cold as well. the safety shutdown for cpu temp is 105C, quite a bit away from 47-49C. your temps arent even halfway there! what you should stop doing is freaking out, and start enjoying your phone. speaking of, you own a quad core phone, when you use it, it will get warm. and if you use the cpu intensively, itll get flat out hot! and thats normal. our phones do not have anything to cool off their cpu, so it relies on the surrounding air to cool it off. unlike a desktop or laptop, which have active cooling systems.
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safety doesn't mean good. If laptop is a little overheating it doesn't matter, but smartphone overheating is unconfortable....
Johnny75_ said:
Sorry, but now with 2 simple apps, battery is 40°C and CPU 65°C. When i call, my ear is boiling!!!
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boiling, i doubt it. boiling point of water is 100C. yes, 65C for a cpu temp is warm, but very normal. and feel, doesnt measure temp. all feel does is give you a difference between what you are touching and what you used to touch. feel is very inaccurate when it comes to a temp reading. boiling is an exaggeration by you. when dealing with real stuff, exaggeration is looked down upon. the cooler your skin is, the warmer your phone will "feel". but that says nothing about temperature. when talking temp, your phone will never be cooler than the surrounding air temo, unless physically cooled down. itll only be warmer, if screen is on, and even warmer when in use. and if plugged in and in use, expect to see temps up to the 70s-80s C.
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safety doesn't mean good. If laptop is a little overheating it doesn't matter, but smartphone overheating is unconfortable....
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theres no such thing as a little overheated. its either overheating or not. just like a woman is pregnant or not, shes not a little pregnant. again, i know that you are refusing to believe it, and are looking for someone to confirm your beliefs, but you wont find that confirmation, bwcause your phone is normal. if you want a cooler device, sell your quad core phone and buy a lower cpu speed single core phone.
Maybe 65°C is normal in a laptop, no in a smartphone. Before yesterday it wasn't warm, now yes. Why? Wasn't it normal before yesterday? I don't think.
Configuration is the same, apps are the same, all is the same. I think there is an Hardware problem. I wish see u phoning with a warm display on your ear.
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Maybe 65°C is normal in a laptop, no in a smartphone. Before yesterday it wasn't warm, now yes. Why? Wasn't it normal before yesterday? I don't think.
Configuration is the same, apps are the same, all is the same. I think there is an Hardware problem. I wish see u phoning with a warm display on your ear.
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guy, quit fantasizing, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR DEVICE!!!!
it was warm many times over, you just didnt pay attention to it, thats all. and dont tell me it was never warm, unless you live somewhere in space near absolute zero. IT IS NORMAL FOR THE PHONE TO GET WARM, AND EVEN HOT, WHEN YOU USE IT! why do you think no one has told you that your phone is not normal, that the heat is not normal? because that is not true. you can believe whatever you want to believe, i personally dont care. but in reality you do not exist it appears. lol! anyways, here is my phone, its much hotter than yours(99C cpu temp, -1 degree C from boiling water), and its one of the top n5 in these xda forums..
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ok, your cpu is really hot. And your battery temp? Maybe battery is the problem. Don't u feel very unconfortable phoning when your smarphone is so hot?
@simms22 I feel where you are coming fom. I know these devices are supposed to get hot. However 99 C is a bit too high considering you don't appear to be doing anything with your phone in that screenshot. I would expect those temps if you were gaming or using G Maps and streaming Pandora at the same the or something.
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@simms22 I feel where you are coming fom. I know these devices are supposed to get hot. However 99 C is a bit too high considering you don't appear to be doing anything with your phone in that screenshot. I would expect those temps if you were gaming or using G Maps and streaming Pandora at the same the or something.
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Im part of trinity kernel, and I do all the testing. part of my testing is pushing it as much as I can, so I can try and "break" the kernel. i actually spend a lot of time around that safety shutdown temp, trying to break things :angel:
under normal conditions, you won't ever see 99C. but seeing it in the 70s and 80s occasionally, especially while gaming, is normal.
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ok, your cpu is really hot. And your battery temp? Maybe battery is the problem. Don't u feel very unconfortable phoning when your smarphone is so hot?
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if I made a phone call at 99C, I probably would feel uncomfortable.
My N5 dose the same as you
Please, so why trickster mod say to me that "battery is too much hot"? Now it's about 45°C, and I have only 2 light apps opened, no games ( chrome and play books).
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Please, so why trickster mod say to me that "battery is too much hot"? Now it's about 45°C, and I have only 2 light apps opened, no games ( chrome and play books).
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I wiped the cache and the problem is solved
As the title states, what are safe temperatures for modern phones with heat pipes, fans, etc?
My current daily driver a Snapdragon 855+ consistently hits 60-75c CPU temps whilst gaming or heavy web browsing, however despite this my battery never exceeds 45c.
Is this safe for the phone in the long run?
Are modern phones keeping the nand far from the cpu?(main heat source)
Reason I ask is because nands deteriorate rapidly starting at 48c+..
There is also NO documentation whatsoever that I can locate on hardware shutoff temperatures for modern phone socs..
Any insight at all would be great.
As a side note what do you put in a thermal engine if you wanted it to underclock at 55c until 40c?
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completely stand by 33celcius
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while mid way of CPU stress test
highest recorded CPU temp is 38celcius also i just notice i need to change my CPU governor only 4 are doing heavy work hmmn okay how da fvck do i change my CPU governor
105°F is getting too warm for a phone battery... and you're going above that.
While Li's can operate up to 150°F, for a phone a more conservative limit of 102°F is best.
In direct sunlight with those temperatures you could fry a display before the thermal shutdown kicked in.
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105°F is getting too warm for a phone battery... and you're going above that.
While Li's can operate up to 150°F, for a phone a more conservative limit of 102°F is best.
In direct sunlight with those temperatures you could fry a display before the thermal shutdown kicked in.
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okay i was about to change my CPU governor but after i read what you had said i provably stick to the default then
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okay i was about to change my CPU governor but after i read what you had said i provably stick to the default then
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I would. I fried a stock Android display like that with the conservative stock settings
It's not just the cpu you that can be damaged.
You need to take into account temperature hysteresis as well and leave a decent safety margin.
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I would. I fried a stock Android display like that with the conservative stock settings
It's not just the cpu you that can be damaged.
You need to take into account temperature hysteresis as well and leave a decent safety margin.
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Interesting information you provided, what temps would a display fry at? One of my phones is capable of running the cpu to 75c (yes i know thats extreme, it was a stress test) for over half an hour while the remaining components never exceeded 45c according to available sensors
How would you build a thermal engine?
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Interesting information you provided, what temps would a display fry at? One of my phones is capable of running the cpu to 75c (yes i know thats extreme, it was a stress test) for over half an hour while the remaining components never exceeded 45c according to available sensors
How would you build a thermal engine?
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While the phone has a lot of temperature sensors in the display there are thousands of mosfets as wells as the OLEDs.
No way to monitor all those microscopic P/N junctions.
Not much heat sinking/porting other than the glass of the display it's self.
Glass is not an efficient thermal conductor... the back panel if ceramic maybe better. Most cases also help trap heat.
Temperatures that pose no issue for a freestanding mobo/cpu can quickly become one in a small sealed unit with densely packed components.
You may be able to get away with 200°F temps sometimes but it will take little to tip the balance. It can happen so fast that even auto shutdown will be useless. Weakest link... the last to be seen and the first to go.
Using a damp microfiber cloth can help cool it down a lot especially with dry moving air.
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While the phone has a lot of temperature sensors in the display there are thousands of mosfets as wells as the OLEDs.
No way to monitor all those microscopic P/N junctions.
Not much heat sinking/porting other than the glass of the display it's self.
Glass is not an efficient thermal conductor... the back panel if ceramic maybe better. Most cases also help trap heat.
Temperatures that pose no issue for a freestanding mobo/cpu can quickly become one in a small sealed unit with densely packed components.
You may be able to get away with 200°F temps sometimes but it will take little to tip the balance. It can happen so fast that even auto shutdown will be useless. Weakest link... the last to be seen and the first to go.
Using a damp microfiber cloth can help cool it down a lot especially with dry moving air.
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The phone in question contains a cooling fan and vapor chamber, the components genuinely do not reach the cpus temp using a laser thermometer, however I agree that the temperature isnt safe and thus brings me to my original question, how would you build a thermal engine? Everyone seems to agree with me that the temps arent safe. Also the phone has a full metal body to cool faster then a glass sandwhich, and I typically do not use a case but the one I have is designed for cooling and doesnt create a general heat increase
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The phone in question contains a cooling fan and vapor chamber, the components genuinely do not reach the cpus temp using a laser thermometer, however I agree that the temperature isnt safe and thus brings me to my original question, how would you build a thermal engine? Everyone seems to agree with me that the temps arent safe. Also the phone has a full metal body to cool faster then a glass sandwhich, and I typically do not use a case but the one I have is designed for cooling and doesnt create a general heat increase
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If you were sinking enough of the heat thermal throttling be no issue... inadequate heat sinking is the issue.
A full imersion liquid cooled phone be more effective... no more hot spots and plenty of potential btu sinking capacity.
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If you were sinking enough of the heat thermal throttling be no issue... inadequate heat sinking is the issue.
A full imersion liquid cooled phone be more effective... no more hot spots and plenty of potential btu sinking capacity.
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A slight misunderstanding, my device NEVER thermal throttles, it always releases the heat perfectly fine. My question is in regards to ME wanting to throttle my phone, not stop it.
Any further posts should be about creating a thermal engine as the thread is suppose to be about... Thanks in advance.
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A slight misunderstanding, my device NEVER thermal throttles, it always releases the heat perfectly fine. My question is in regards to ME wanting to throttle my phone, not stop it.
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Because it's rooted you need to modify it; as it is now it just keep running no matter how hot it gets?
That's a rather serious rom issue.
I have no clue how to do that with Androids... someone here probably does.
You should probably use the stock profile as they most likely use many of the temp sensors readouts in conjunction for throttling.
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Because it's rooted you need to modify it; as it is now it just keep running no matter how hot it gets?
That's a rather serious rom issue.
I have no clue how to do that with Androids... someone here probably does.
You should probably use the stock profile as they most likely use many of the temp sensors readouts in conjunction for throttling.
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On android the thermal engine is built around the same sensors and is actually what the rom uses, i see where the misunderstanding was now. To get you up to speed on all android roms the throttling is handled by the thermal engine which is modifiable by the end user, I personally am only aware of about 50% of the parameters and was seeking someone with more knowledge to teach me on how to build it from scratch. In regards to the "no matter how hot it gets", to clarify my phone has not physically reached shutdown temperatures and/or throttling because it is CAPABLE of releasing the heat WHILST RETAINING high cpu freqs/usage. The only way I can force a throttle is to apply external heat, the phone itselfs has a cooling system, that is cooling past what its cpu is capable of creating in heat.
Im really unsatisfied with my s22ultra ive done everything i know or people suggested and nothing helped i think next time i go xiaomi or apple. Thats it
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After looking pictures of all these threads you made about this problem it's looks like pretty normal. There is no phone in the world that doesn't drain battery if you doing something with it. Apps drain battery and games drain even more battery.
Previous threads.
Real bad battery
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
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Battery sucks
Did anyone found a way to get more battery from the s22 ultra i get like 3h sot . Today it went from 85 to 60 in 40min i was playing a game but thats was really quick .. i rather buy an iphone just for the battery and performance. But i really...
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The problem is the SOC is inefficient because of Samsung fabs poor 4nm manufacturing node (both Exynos and Snapdragon were manufactured on this node). Nothing will help, it'll take the S23u with TSMC manufacturing the new SOCs to get good battery life.
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Im really unsatisfied with my s22ultra ive done everything i know or people suggested and nothing helped i think next time i go xiaomi or apple. Thats it
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If you're not satisfied with S22Ultra you won't be satisfied either with Xiaomi or any other brand, ESPECIALLY Xiaomi and their garbage OS.
Your usage seems pretty normal and the fact that you have DUAL sims and play games, your battery looks fine. NONE phone will provide drastically more power with this kind of usage.
Dayuser said:
After looking pictures of all these threads you made about this problem it's looks like pretty normal. There is no phone in the world that doesn't drain battery if you doing something with it. Apps drain battery and games drain even more battery.
Previous threads.
Real bad battery
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
forum.xda-developers.com
Battery sucks
Did anyone found a way to get more battery from the s22 ultra i get like 3h sot . Today it went from 85 to 60 in 40min i was playing a game but thats was really quick .. i rather buy an iphone just for the battery and performance. But i really...
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max
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If you're not satisfied with S22Ultra you won't be satisfied either with Xiaomi or any other brand, ESPECIALLY Xiaomi and their garbage OS.
Your usage seems pretty normal and the fact that you have DUAL sims and play games, your battery looks fine. NONE phone will provide drastically more power with this kind of usage.
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max ..... they say the 12s ultra can get alot more battery or maybe even the new pixel 7pro
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I get 8 to 9h sot with the 13 pro max same or even more heavy usage i tried 60 hz 720p and i get 5hsot max ..... they say the 12s ultra can get alot more battery or maybe even the new pixel 7pro
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Do you use DUAL SIM in your 13 Pro Max? (Rhetorical question).
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Do you use DUAL SIM in your 13 Pro Max? (Rhetorical question).
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Its 1 sim . Plus i used to use my s22 ultra with only one i got the new sim last month or so
I also feel like the battery it's the biggest problem of this phone . Everything else it's good for me , except for some hy temperature sometimes with it's random but mostly when it's hot outside.
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I also feel like the battery it's the biggest problem of this phone . Everything else it's good for me , except for some hy temperature sometimes with it's random but mostly when it's hot outside.
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Watch this, it explains why. The TSMC SOCs in the s23 series should fix it but the s22 series is not good for efficiency .https://youtu.be/s0ukXDnWlTY
Thank you. Now I know the problem. But also I still don't really understand why it's taking so much battery while it's in stad by ... like the cpu should not be in use then right? I love this phone but this battery it's just awful... anyway thank you for the video. It was useful
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Thank you. Now I know the problem. But also I still don't really understand why it's taking so much battery while it's in stad by ... like the cpu should not be in use then right? I love this phone but this battery it's just awful... anyway thank you for the video. It was useful
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To my shock today i dont know how but just happened...... plus i never have temperature issue
Next time go Poco No use in overpaying for performance when it's not backed up by a good battery. Also... Samsung, with their well known battery issues. No, thank you. Take that advice as you wish.
Tomo123 , I don't even belive what I see there I think maybe you can make this when you let your phone at home and not using it
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To my shock today i dont know how but just happened...... plus i never have temperature issue
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I have always goof battery with the Samsung phones at the beginning like 2 -3 mounts it last like 5-6 hours of screen on time and like 20 hours of stand by , but after this period it's just too awful maximum 3-4 hours with maximum 6-8 hours of stand by I think that it's not even making it 20 hours only with stand by but I don't know why exactly it's this happening
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Tomo123 , I don't even belive what I see there I think maybe you can make this when you let your phone at home and not using it
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My dear man, I really don't care if you believe it or not. It just goes to show you have no idea on how to properly optimize the phone you are using. But I am not here to spoon-feed you, learn it yourself... or live in ignorance. Your choice. Have a nice day.
The problem is the kernel not the cpu fab. A quick simple watch of the cpu frequency behavior shows this with ZERO hot plugging and to high idle frequency. I'm not talking how the old hotplug governor was. I'm talking when you turn the screen off the cpus don't hotplug and don't go under 600mhz 4 core. Very very bad for better life and simply fixing this will make the phone last loads longer for standby and adding hotpluging with lower 200mhz idle till screen touch then ramp to 600mhz will add loads of screen on time. I'm not surprised this is forgotten in a world of root is bad but back in the evo3D days you could pm power=0 and get 30 days on a hotplug governor. It's there, we just need custom kernel or Samsung (very unlikely) to fix said issues
In the S22 series, while Snapdragon variant doesn't have great batterylife, the Exynos variant is even worse.
And to improve the endurance, there are 100's of threads that will help to give you some relief. That's all.
For the 7 pro? I have the US unlocked varient and it doesn't seem as warm as it once did. Jan update may have fixed it.
What build number is the Jan update?
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
31 C... after jan update - mb normal
dutch_in_seattle said:
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
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Thanks, was asking because I didn't get it, but then I realized I'm on the beta channel
My 7 Pro has never had a heating issue.
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What program is that?
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What program is that?
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Battery Guru.
Cheers had forgotten about this one
The heating issues for my device were fixed after the December feature drop
Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
And if you wanted values, some battery meters showed as much as 1400 mAh peak drain while watching a youtube video at work on 4g (i have 5g blocked by google), just scrolling through Instagram gave me 890-1100mAh drain while heating my phone, where this value drops to 400-500mAh drain doing the same on Wifi. Idle messenger is like 320 mAh drain over Wifi, at least 900 over LTE. This seems good to you?
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to longer battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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Bro I barely use the phone ...No Twitter no social media , a little utube and music ..I have one game ...No emails ...10 minutes of calling and 10 text a day
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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Yes, the whole issue IS THE TENSOR G2. While it barely offers the CPU performance of the 865-70 (GPU is somewhat "decent"), it eats twice as much power. It's EXTREMELY inefficient and performs well below many other "flagship" SOCs while it consumes more power than those.
How much you pay for the phone doesn't automatically grant you a PREMIUM battery life. It may grant you a "premium" performance...
If you know the TECH that well, you would understand why buying a flagship device will never give you the "best" battery life, no matter how much you pay for the device. The reasons behind it is already mentioned in my previous reply. FACT.
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entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain
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Sorry but this seems with no proof at all
I get the VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G things, which are indeed limited by Google
Not the "sabotage", even because on an unsupported MVNO the battery consumption was mostly the same as the host network
My P7P has run much, much cooler than my P6P ever did, it's never run hot.
It will only get hot for few minutes after the update. Your phone is indexing your file and optimising system app due to update. Those two process use a lot of CPU.
After it's done the phone should run normally. No Heat issue on mine. Unless i open the stupid youtube music which somehow use way too much cpu power