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I hope this doesn't irritate too many people but imagine the irritation when you have been flashing BIOS and firmware upgrades since eproms and PLA's still existed and they were erased with intense U/V light. Not to mention of course the 30+ years that I have been an UBER: power using mega puter punk since the days of black boxing and phone phreaking were dominating the scene on 8 bit machines and BBS's were my middle name... A founding member of S.W.A.P. (South Western Alliance of Pirates) and N.A.P. BBS #48 (National Association of Pirates)... Arizona my homestate and still proud to call it such after 44 years was 48 to be admitted into the Union's statehood of love...thus matching the one BBS per state allowed by the N.A.P. eLEETz...and their self given but not too kool now so I will stop powers that be....
Anywayz...just the thing is to wonder why after flashing and ROMing phonez now for many years I am having to go through all of this just to be allowed to NOT actually START A NEW THREAD but just POST to the Developer forums unless I post 10 or more messages in this eLEETist world of portable micro computing device maniacs that is nothing but BOOBz and NOOBz asking the dorkiest questions at every turn and I cannot ask an intelligent one just to make something happen for myself and about .... let's see... a possibility of 4,791,015 possible other members than myself ... because someone left out their home phone # (if they still exist anymore... *grin*) so that I could instead just call them up in the middle of their dinner and Wheel of Fortune and ask them personally instead of the right way and that is right in the forum and thread that more information or guidance was truly just a ten second away assist kinda sorta proper way of asking... I believe the universal series of symbols and or arcane cryptic ASCII/ANSI character set would look something like this... 'REPLY' if I were to actually be able to click it and get the editor to begin my life over again I would...instead of this...but oh well, you can't have a history like mine and I never even let LOCALs onto my old and ancient little club of the most eLEETist and p!mp!n' group of jive @$$ honkey MoFo;z ya ever never laid eyez on...unless you were some divorced or never married Motorola or Intel engineer geekiest (even more than me...yeah...) super puter jack on the scene and ran the local user group consisting of about 25-40 of those old phat @$$e$ and a couple of kidz that were 14-16 years old like I was at the time...and when we graced them with our presence they swarmed us for just about anything and everything because face it...what is true today was true back then...the K!Dz had all of the idle time to collect and archive it all...and the old phartz had all the cash... I think I have painted enough of a picture for one horrible post... so yeah...we exploited the crap out of them...and they never hesitated a second to make use the most cash flow puter punk rich so that we didn't even have to scam Target anymore by returning old Commodore 64's for a $249.00 +tax cash right now refund that we just purchased from the local paper for $100-150 as long as they had the original box and we did it all without receipts...sheeee!t mang...we didn't even do or have to sell drugz and kept our brainz fairly clean until high school of course...hey...but that is a DIFFERENT story...
(The Crypt was the name of one of my BBS's...The Assassin's Guild be the other...but irrelevant here so ignore that last part and most of this entire thread...and if you are still reading you are not so bright and even more frustrated that I am right now for even have had to type this and annoy you too!...so sorry ahead of time and on the back end...if you are a moderator please don't ban me just eLEETvate me with you magic wand or I will probably just cry! ;() *grinning widely now* I also paid proper and well worth cash for the AndyAPP ....
One down and NINE more to go...but I promise not to do it here... I will randomly space them out in order to treat the masses with my verbal gasses... I just wish there were iPhoney forums here and I would have just straight up LAID INTO THOSE douche'z and received the key to the XDA village for listing my 100 true facts about crApple stInc. that is you knew even one of the first TOP 10 you would not ever purchase an iPhoney or an iPud or any iDevice ever again... but then we are talking about crApple purchasing NEW TECH BABY BOOMERz or as I like to refer to them as .... Generation iPudz... because padz are for your chickz puzzy (if you are not tooooooo much of a phone geek that iz and have one...) and tablets are what Moses presented the TEN COMMANDMENTS ON!!!! uh,,,huh... I said it! and the #1 reason.... heh... okay...
Because they never read the EULA they don't even know that they don't even OWN but LEASE these can be disabled and manipulated anytime and YES throttled by crApple to be sluggish and slow...hmmmm...just before the release of a new iPhoney so that they will act like little consumer drones consuming good air standing in line waiting for that crApple!!!! crap by the krAppleHeAdZ because they are overpriced and they think and believe the deceptive marketing ads some banned worldwide about them having capabilities that their wireless partner doesn't allow half truths crAPPLE CRAP!!! and also think they are not getting the best thinking of thing that money will never be worth and still they buy!!! these under enabled locked up for only the greediest of reasons that only crApple stInc. and the rest of the almost 5 million of us that just seem to know... heh! SALUTE' everyone and thank you for reading if you got this far...
TooTLEz all, I will either be kicked off or promoted...but probably it will just get deleted with a IM NOT AS OLD OR AS EXPERIENCED AS YOU BUT I REIGN SUPREME IN ONLY MY WORLD warning from someone that wasn't even born when I hacked out my first long distance access number code from good old... U.S. SPRINT.... because they were only 5 unsecure digits back then after you dial in.....LOSERz.... and I could randomly snag a few a night....while sleeeeeeeeeeeeping.... NIGHT NIGHT...because I have been up all night again...and yesterday was my 44th birthday!!! So there!
KiRbYdOoO
a.k.a. The Assassin (just a kid)
a.k.a. The Undertaker (an infant)
a.k.a. The dude that banged your mother and abandoned you both! (That was exactly nine months prior to however old you think you are!)
PPMD >>>-------------> and if you don't know what that means then you wouldn't make a p!mple on a eLEETz geekz @$$...!!!!

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KiRbYOoO said:
I hope this doesn't irritate too many people but imagine the irritation when you have been flashing BIOS and firmware upgrades since eproms and PLA's still existed and they were erased with intense U/V light. Not to mention of course the 30+ years that I have been an UBER: power using mega puter punk since the days of black boxing and phone phreaking were dominating the scene on 8 bit machines and BBS's were my middle name... A founding member of S.W.A.P. (South Western Alliance of Pirates) and N.A.P. BBS #48 (National Association of Pirates)... Arizona my homestate and still proud to call it such after 44 years was 48 to be admitted into the Union's statehood of love...thus matching the one BBS per state allowed by the N.A.P. eLEETz...and their self given but not too kool now so I will stop powers that be....
Anywayz...just the thing is to wonder why after flashing and ROMing phonez now for many years I am having to go through all of this just to be allowed to NOT actually START A NEW THREAD but just POST to the Developer forums unless I post 10 or more messages in this eLEETist world of portable micro computing device maniacs that is nothing but BOOBz and NOOBz asking the dorkiest questions at every turn and I cannot ask an intelligent one just to make something happen for myself and about .... let's see... a possibility of 4,791,015 possible other members than myself ... because someone left out their home phone # (if they still exist anymore... *grin*) so that I could instead just call them up in the middle of their dinner and Wheel of Fortune and ask them personally instead of the right way and that is right in the forum and thread that more information or guidance was truly just a ten second away assist kinda sorta proper way of asking... I believe the universal series of symbols and or arcane cryptic ASCII/ANSI character set would look something like this... 'REPLY' if I were to actually be able to click it and get the editor to begin my life over again I would...instead of this...but oh well, you can't have a history like mine and I never even let LOCALs onto my old and ancient little club of the most eLEETist and p!mp!n' group of jive @$$ honkey MoFo;z ya ever never laid eyez on...unless you were some divorced or never married Motorola or Intel engineer geekiest (even more than me...yeah...) super puter jack on the scene and ran the local user group consisting of about 25-40 of those old phat @$$e$ and a couple of kidz that were 14-16 years old like I was at the time...and when we graced them with our presence they swarmed us for just about anything and everything because face it...what is true today was true back then...the K!Dz had all of the idle time to collect and archive it all...and the old phartz had all the cash... I think I have painted enough of a picture for one horrible post... so yeah...we exploited the crap out of them...and they never hesitated a second to make use the most cash flow puter punk rich so that we didn't even have to scam Target anymore by returning old Commodore 64's for a $249.00 +tax cash right now refund that we just purchased from the local paper for $100-150 as long as they had the original box and we did it all without receipts...sheeee!t mang...we didn't even do or have to sell drugz and kept our brainz fairly clean until high school of course...hey...but that is a DIFFERENT story...
(The Crypt was the name of one of my BBS's...The Assassin's Guild be the other...but irrelevant here so ignore that last part and most of this entire thread...and if you are still reading you are not so bright and even more frustrated that I am right now for even have had to type this and annoy you too!...so sorry ahead of time and on the back end...if you are a moderator please don't ban me just eLEETvate me with you magic wand or I will probably just cry! ;() *grinning widely now* I also paid proper and well worth cash for the AndyAPP ....
One down and NINE more to go...but I promise not to do it here... I will randomly space them out in order to treat the masses with my verbal gasses... I just wish there were iPhoney forums here and I would have just straight up LAID INTO THOSE douche'z and received the key to the XDA village for listing my 100 true facts about crApple stInc. that is you knew even one of the first TOP 10 you would not ever purchase an iPhoney or an iPud or any iDevice ever again... but then we are talking about crApple purchasing NEW TECH BABY BOOMERz or as I like to refer to them as .... Generation iPudz... because padz are for your chickz puzzy (if you are not tooooooo much of a phone geek that iz and have one...) and tablets are what Moses presented the TEN COMMANDMENTS ON!!!! uh,,,huh... I said it! and the #1 reason.... heh... okay...
Because they never read the EULA they don't even know that they don't even OWN but LEASE these can be disabled and manipulated anytime and YES throttled by crApple to be sluggish and slow...hmmmm...just before the release of a new iPhoney so that they will act like little consumer drones consuming good air standing in line waiting for that crApple!!!! crap by the krAppleHeAdZ because they are overpriced and they think and believe the deceptive marketing ads some banned worldwide about them having capabilities that their wireless partner doesn't allow half truths crAPPLE CRAP!!! and also think they are not getting the best thinking of thing that money will never be worth and still they buy!!! these under enabled locked up for only the greediest of reasons that only crApple stInc. and the rest of the almost 5 million of us that just seem to know... heh! SALUTE' everyone and thank you for reading if you got this far...
TooTLEz all, I will either be kicked off or promoted...but probably it will just get deleted with a IM NOT AS OLD OR AS EXPERIENCED AS YOU BUT I REIGN SUPREME IN ONLY MY WORLD warning from someone that wasn't even born when I hacked out my first long distance access number code from good old... U.S. SPRINT.... because they were only 5 unsecure digits back then after you dial in.....LOSERz.... and I could randomly snag a few a night....while sleeeeeeeeeeeeping.... NIGHT NIGHT...because I have been up all night again...and yesterday was my 44th birthday!!! So there!
KiRbYdOoO
a.k.a. The Assassin (just a kid)
a.k.a. The Undertaker (an infant)
a.k.a. The dude that banged your mother and abandoned you both! (That was exactly nine months prior to however old you think you are!)
PPMD >>>-------------> and if you don't know what that means then you wouldn't make a p!mple on a eLEETz geekz @$$...!!!!
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and uhhhh.....lookz like only 6 more to go not 9 so good!

KiRbYOoO said:
I hope this doesn't irritate too many people but imagine the irritation when you have been flashing BIOS and firmware upgrades since eproms and PLA's still existed and they were erased with intense U/V light. Not to mention of course the 30+ years that I have been an UBER: power using mega puter punk since the days of black boxing and phone phreaking were dominating the scene on 8 bit machines and BBS's were my middle name... A founding member of S.W.A.P. (South Western Alliance of Pirates) and N.A.P. BBS #48 (National Association of Pirates)... Arizona my homestate and still proud to call it such after 44 years was 48 to be admitted into the Union's statehood of love...thus matching the one BBS per state allowed by the N.A.P. eLEETz...and their self given but not too kool now so I will stop powers that be....
Anywayz...just the thing is to wonder why after flashing and ROMing phonez now for many years I am having to go through all of this just to be allowed to NOT actually START A NEW THREAD but just POST to the Developer forums unless I post 10 or more messages in this eLEETist world of portable micro computing device maniacs that is nothing but BOOBz and NOOBz asking the dorkiest questions at every turn and I cannot ask an intelligent one just to make something happen for myself and about .... let's see... a possibility of 4,791,015 possible other members than myself ... because someone left out their home phone # (if they still exist anymore... *grin*) so that I could instead just call them up in the middle of their dinner and Wheel of Fortune and ask them personally instead of the right way and that is right in the forum and thread that more information or guidance was truly just a ten second away assist kinda sorta proper way of asking... I believe the universal series of symbols and or arcane cryptic ASCII/ANSI character set would look something like this... 'REPLY' if I were to actually be able to click it and get the editor to begin my life over again I would...instead of this...but oh well, you can't have a history like mine and I never even let LOCALs onto my old and ancient little club of the most eLEETist and p!mp!n' group of jive @$$ honkey MoFo;z ya ever never laid eyez on...unless you were some divorced or never married Motorola or Intel engineer geekiest (even more than me...yeah...) super puter jack on the scene and ran the local user group consisting of about 25-40 of those old phat @$$e$ and a couple of kidz that were 14-16 years old like I was at the time...and when we graced them with our presence they swarmed us for just about anything and everything because face it...what is true today was true back then...the K!Dz had all of the idle time to collect and archive it all...and the old phartz had all the cash... I think I have painted enough of a picture for one horrible post... so yeah...we exploited the crap out of them...and they never hesitated a second to make use the most cash flow puter punk rich so that we didn't even have to scam Target anymore by returning old Commodore 64's for a $249.00 +tax cash right now refund that we just purchased from the local paper for $100-150 as long as they had the original box and we did it all without receipts...sheeee!t mang...we didn't even do or have to sell drugz and kept our brainz fairly clean until high school of course...hey...but that is a DIFFERENT story...
(The Crypt was the name of one of my BBS's...The Assassin's Guild be the other...but irrelevant here so ignore that last part and most of this entire thread...and if you are still reading you are not so bright and even more frustrated that I am right now for even have had to type this and annoy you too!...so sorry ahead of time and on the back end...if you are a moderator please don't ban me just eLEETvate me with you magic wand or I will probably just cry! ;() *grinning widely now* I also paid proper and well worth cash for the AndyAPP ....
One down and NINE more to go...but I promise not to do it here... I will randomly space them out in order to treat the masses with my verbal gasses... I just wish there were iPhoney forums here and I would have just straight up LAID INTO THOSE douche'z and received the key to the XDA village for listing my 100 true facts about crApple stInc. that is you knew even one of the first TOP 10 you would not ever purchase an iPhoney or an iPud or any iDevice ever again... but then we are talking about crApple purchasing NEW TECH BABY BOOMERz or as I like to refer to them as .... Generation iPudz... because padz are for your chickz puzzy (if you are not tooooooo much of a phone geek that iz and have one...) and tablets are what Moses presented the TEN COMMANDMENTS ON!!!! uh,,,huh... I said it! and the #1 reason.... heh... okay...
Because they never read the EULA they don't even know that they don't even OWN but LEASE these can be disabled and manipulated anytime and YES throttled by crApple to be sluggish and slow...hmmmm...just before the release of a new iPhoney so that they will act like little consumer drones consuming good air standing in line waiting for that crApple!!!! crap by the krAppleHeAdZ because they are overpriced and they think and believe the deceptive marketing ads some banned worldwide about them having capabilities that their wireless partner doesn't allow half truths crAPPLE CRAP!!! and also think they are not getting the best thinking of thing that money will never be worth and still they buy!!! these under enabled locked up for only the greediest of reasons that only crApple stInc. and the rest of the almost 5 million of us that just seem to know... heh! SALUTE' everyone and thank you for reading if you got this far...
TooTLEz all, I will either be kicked off or promoted...but probably it will just get deleted with a IM NOT AS OLD OR AS EXPERIENCED AS YOU BUT I REIGN SUPREME IN ONLY MY WORLD warning from someone that wasn't even born when I hacked out my first long distance access number code from good old... U.S. SPRINT.... because they were only 5 unsecure digits back then after you dial in.....LOSERz.... and I could randomly snag a few a night....while sleeeeeeeeeeeeping.... NIGHT NIGHT...because I have been up all night again...and yesterday was my 44th birthday!!! So there!
KiRbYdOoO
a.k.a. The Assassin (just a kid)
a.k.a. The Undertaker (an infant)
a.k.a. The dude that banged your mother and abandoned you both! (That was exactly nine months prior to however old you think you are!)
PPMD >>>-------------> and if you don't know what that means then you wouldn't make a p!mple on a eLEETz geekz @$$...!!!!
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Holy crap dude! Are you trying to write a book or something? Your off to a bad start with this rant!

Tl;dr
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Endoroid said:
Tl;dr
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium
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Was just going to post that !
TL;DR
OP its a thread not a book. WTF is a boon ? Pass the blunt this way bro , must be some good weed you're smoking !1!111!!
EDIT : Just read some of your ranting , do everyone a service and post @ http://boards.4chan.org/b/ <<<<< [NSFW]

[Q] (not) Unique Situation - Have 2 Galaxy S3 Verizon and Need Guidance

Hi:
I started writing a thread the other day but stopped as it was full of drama and detail not important. This is what happened (when there is drama I will insert [D] with no detail so the context is maintained a bit.
I was minding my own business when one day last week my Samsung Galaxy G3 (I535) suddenly lost the ability to make/receive calls. I was on 4.1.2 and rooted, bootloader unlocked via ODIN. I thought I had loaded software that caused the problem. Couldn't resolve. Called Verizon [D] [D] to level 2, no problem, let me check a few things, OK, cool, do you have 2nd SIM? Yes! OK, it must be the phone, let's get you a replacement.. (Saturday, Phone arrives Tues).
New phone, powers up, no updates, authentication nightmare. Will not auth. Call Verizon...just wait a while?...OK.
Some hours later, authenticated. Very odd problems: charge isn't indicated on several chargers, then it is, then it isn't, charger independent? Keyboard exhibits over 1000 ms delay on press; unusable. Several other odd problems. Confused, I look online: Verizon Galaxy G3 4.4.2 update slow. First two hits happen to be Verizon's own "self-support" boards. All my symptoms and more. Lot's of Verizon's taking customers through the swamp looking for snipe. Reboot, Sim pull/insert, Factory Reset. Called Verizon back, hold times 4x previous call. Getting to Level 2 very difficult, CS rep actually states: "I know most of our phones and I haven't heard this set of problems". I refered him to Verizon's web site, grudingly sends me to Level 2. Extremely long hold time, and upon answer that group is not busy at all but relaxing talking together. Guy is grumpy, "Let me check something", back without hold in about 10 mins. "What ROM did you flash on the phone!?" first thing he said to me.
I've never flashed a ROM on any phone, for the record. I told him I knew what was and didn't do that. He insisted that he "couldn't read the software on the phone" [D] [D]!
I maintained polite, and focused on a solution, but he would not hear of that. I also offered to do a Factory Reset at least twice. "The Custom ROM will still be there after Factory Reset!" Perhaps, but then that would prove what I did and didn't do, maybe? Finally, I told him that I was very tired, and we weren't solving anything. Could I have an problem ticket number or incident number for reference. "We don't use those anymore". "You can have my employee ID and my phone number." Sorry if this is not PC, but it felt like a rapist giving his victim his contact information, should victim want to be in touch. I said, no, I'll just call back.
Immediately upon termination the new phone (replacement) displayed "Safe Mode" no apps, and the inabilty to unselect "screen mirroring" a new feature to me, but now turned on. I pull the SIM and factory reset, even though I had loaded many apps back (Inclulding Towelroot, which I had found and implemented). Although no idication of root before, the phone showed rooted and customer or modified, I don't remember the fields. Next day called back, long holds, CS OK, everyone had read Level 2 notes. Sent me up to Level 2. Long hold time, over 30 minutes. Cold response. I asked why the replacement of a non-functioning device had branched into, after receiving said device, two separate issues, to me it was one, getting my service back. Cold, "what do you want us to do?" Not knowing, I said, "I don't know, I just want the phone to work". Finally he went to talk to the boss, came back at 0 deg. Kelvin, through clenched teeth: You can take your phone to Best Buy, they will flash it back (I presumed to 4.1.2), after factory reboot and confirm no....[D] Thanks, I terminated.
At this point I had no working phone for several days, and I felt very upset about the entire situation, especially how I'd been treated by the last two guys. The first after the replacement was so out of line he should have been sanctioned, and an appology directed at me by manager, unless....
This is what they intended to happen. Because the OTA updates hadn't taken, perhaps, they disabled the G3 connection on the device (and it was unprovisioned on their server), knew this would lead to the likely steps above, and were so intent on getting me under their control with 4.4.2 (which I knew nothing about, in terms of root, etc), they had manipulated me to 4.4.2? I am a long time customer with unlimited data, a withdrawn discount, and paying over $200 for two lines with shared limited minutes and txt. No contract.
Whatever the case I still have my 4.1.2 G3 (no voice) and the 4.4.2 replacement. Obviously, I cannot consider staying at Verizon (likely what they want, apparently). Which do I keep? How do I prep the other for return to them? Know any good class action attorney? Obviously, Verizon is too big to care about me and, like so many huge corporations, no one dares attempt to regulate them.
Thanks for any advice. For infomormation on any technical steps to support the above paragraph, please simply refer me to the thread or post and I'll take it from there. I am not super technical, and had to re-do the original ODIN process about 3 times before it took, so any existing process instructions targeted at the Stupid User level would be appropriate and very much appreciated.
Sorry this is so long, I honestly left out a few calls because it just dawned on me, after I called V back today to figure out next steps, the guy listened (read the notes), said I was very poorly handled, I deserved better, would go talk to manager, be right back, 20 minutes later, manager still busy, can he call me back? Sure, gave info. Not a single call or attempt. That was the "It's not us, it's you response" but made to sound the other way round. Apparently they want me to walk away with a useless device, and since it's old and I'm not under contract, but love the phone, I can't understand why they would destroy my property and tell me to f-off, other than they feel like it.
If this sounds like paranoia, you might be surprised what big companies will do to you if they can. And so far, I'm the only one harmed, since they probably expected me to stop days ago. In any event, I have to send back a phone to them and hopefully keep one that works somewhere else. Please help me with the steps I need to take.
If you like history, or want to see how the big guys got a stranglehold on the US after the Civil War, then were forced back into decency by Teddy Roosevelt, W. Wilson, and FDR check out the Roosevelt 7 part documentrary recently appearing on PBS. I'm up to Episode 4, and already knew much of the story, but the detailed focus on their private and public lives and how they matured and developed is moving, enlightening, and awe-inspiring.
Thank You in Advance,
Mark

I really should say I'm surprised but in reality I'm not. Your right when you say they don't care because I've experienced it for myself and with my gf over the phone and my mom for that matter. The sad part is they are getting way too big for even themselves and like most companies don't have very good customer service. I'm unlocked as well and have never had issues with voice calls on this phone, only my first phone with a weird rom. It's not there business to ask you if you've installed a custom rom or not. I wouldn't even of answered the question myself.
Personally i would dump verizon if they treated me like that. I was in the store yesterday with my gf and she is a looooong time VZW customer. I'm taking 14 plus years and she went to best buy to get a phone because VZW doesn't know how to take care of customers at all.
It's a sad trend but the bigger the company the worse the customer service is
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP

mrbonine said:
Hi:
I started writing a thread the other day but stopped as it was full of drama and detail not important. This is what happened (when there is drama I will insert [D] with no detail so the context is maintained a bit.
I was minding my own business when one day last week my Samsung Galaxy G3 (I535) suddenly lost the ability to make/receive calls. I was on 4.1.2 and rooted, bootloader unlocked via ODIN. I thought I had loaded software that caused the problem. Couldn't resolve. Called Verizon [D] [D] to level 2, no problem, let me check a few things, OK, cool, do you have 2nd SIM? Yes! OK, it must be the phone, let's get you a replacement.. (Saturday, Phone arrives Tues).
New phone, powers up, no updates, authentication nightmare. Will not auth. Call Verizon...just wait a while?...OK.
Some hours later, authenticated. Very odd problems: charge isn't indicated on several chargers, then it is, then it isn't, charger independent? Keyboard exhibits over 1000 ms delay on press; unusable. Several other odd problems. Confused, I look online: Verizon Galaxy G3 4.4.2 update slow. First two hits happen to be Verizon's own "self-support" boards. All my symptoms and more. Lot's of Verizon's taking customers through the swamp looking for snipe. Reboot, Sim pull/insert, Factory Reset. Called Verizon back, hold times 4x previous call. Getting to Level 2 very difficult, CS rep actually states: "I know most of our phones and I haven't heard this set of problems". I refered him to Verizon's web site, grudingly sends me to Level 2. Extremely long hold time, and upon answer that group is not busy at all but relaxing talking together. Guy is grumpy, "Let me check something", back without hold in about 10 mins. "What ROM did you flash on the phone!?" first thing he said to me.
I've never flashed a ROM on any phone, for the record. I told him I knew what was and didn't do that. He insisted that he "couldn't read the software on the phone" [D] [D]!
I maintained polite, and focused on a solution, but he would not hear of that. I also offered to do a Factory Reset at least twice. "The Custom ROM will still be there after Factory Reset!" Perhaps, but then that would prove what I did and didn't do, maybe? Finally, I told him that I was very tired, and we weren't solving anything. Could I have an problem ticket number or incident number for reference. "We don't use those anymore". "You can have my employee ID and my phone number." Sorry if this is not PC, but it felt like a rapist giving his victim his contact information, should victim want to be in touch. I said, no, I'll just call back.
Immediately upon termination the new phone (replacement) displayed "Safe Mode" no apps, and the inabilty to unselect "screen mirroring" a new feature to me, but now turned on. I pull the SIM and factory reset, even though I had loaded many apps back (Inclulding Towelroot, which I had found and implemented). Although no idication of root before, the phone showed rooted and customer or modified, I don't remember the fields. Next day called back, long holds, CS OK, everyone had read Level 2 notes. Sent me up to Level 2. Long hold time, over 30 minutes. Cold response. I asked why the replacement of a non-functioning device had branched into, after receiving said device, two separate issues, to me it was one, getting my service back. Cold, "what do you want us to do?" Not knowing, I said, "I don't know, I just want the phone to work". Finally he went to talk to the boss, came back at 0 deg. Kelvin, through clenched teeth: You can take your phone to Best Buy, they will flash it back (I presumed to 4.1.2), after factory reboot and confirm no....[D] Thanks, I terminated.
At this point I had no working phone for several days, and I felt very upset about the entire situation, especially how I'd been treated by the last two guys. The first after the replacement was so out of line he should have been sanctioned, and an appology directed at me by manager, unless....
This is what they intended to happen. Because the OTA updates hadn't taken, perhaps, they disabled the G3 connection on the device (and it was unprovisioned on their server), knew this would lead to the likely steps above, and were so intent on getting me under their control with 4.4.2 (which I knew nothing about, in terms of root, etc), they had manipulated me to 4.4.2? I am a long time customer with unlimited data, a withdrawn discount, and paying over $200 for two lines with shared limited minutes and txt. No contract.
Whatever the case I still have my 4.1.2 G3 (no voice) and the 4.4.2 replacement. Obviously, I cannot consider staying at Verizon (likely what they want, apparently). Which do I keep? How do I prep the other for return to them? Know any good class action attorney? Obviously, Verizon is too big to care about me and, like so many huge corporations, no one dares attempt to regulate them.
Thanks for any advice. For infomormation on any technical steps to support the above paragraph, please simply refer me to the thread or post and I'll take it from there. I am not super technical, and had to re-do the original ODIN process about 3 times before it took, so any existing process instructions targeted at the Stupid User level would be appropriate and very much appreciated.
Sorry this is so long, I honestly left out a few calls because it just dawned on me, after I called V back today to figure out next steps, the guy listened (read the notes), said I was very poorly handled, I deserved better, would go talk to manager, be right back, 20 minutes later, manager still busy, can he call me back? Sure, gave info. Not a single call or attempt. That was the "It's not us, it's you response" but made to sound the other way round. Apparently they want me to walk away with a useless device, and since it's old and I'm not under contract, but love the phone, I can't understand why they would destroy my property and tell me to f-off, other than they feel like it.
If this sounds like paranoia, you might be surprised what big companies will do to you if they can. And so far, I'm the only one harmed, since they probably expected me to stop days ago. In any event, I have to send back a phone to them and hopefully keep one that works somewhere else. Please help me with the steps I need to take.
If you like history, or want to see how the big guys got a stranglehold on the US after the Civil War, then were forced back into decency by Teddy Roosevelt, W. Wilson, and FDR check out the Roosevelt 7 part documentrary recently appearing on PBS. I'm up to Episode 4, and already knew much of the story, but the detailed focus on their private and public lives and how they matured and developed is moving, enlightening, and awe-inspiring.
Thank You in Advance,
Mark
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I don't really have any info to help you, so I apologize for that.
But out of curiosity, do you have the MyVerizon app (or whatever the name is) installed?
At one point the app requested root permission, which is EXTREMELY sketchy in my opinion. I wonder if you grant it, or even deny it (if they can detect the denial) if they ASSUMED that you installed a custom ROM, because a lot of those that root also install custom ROMs.
Maybe just try at a different time of day to maybe get a call center in a different state or country?
That is extremely unprofessional on their part though...
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I don't really have any info to help you, so I apologize for that.
But out of curiosity, do you have the MyVerizon app (or whatever the name is) installed?
At one point the app requested root permission, which is EXTREMELY sketchy in my opinion. I wonder if you grant it, or even deny it (if they can detect the denial) if they ASSUMED that you installed a custom ROM, because a lot of those that root also install custom ROMs.
Maybe just try at a different time of day to maybe get a call center in a different state or country?
That is extremely unprofessional on their part though...
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Speaking of verizon and apps. My gf when she was on the phone was told by a rep that she had updated an app the previous day through Google play. Talk about sketchy! Yea I remember when the verizon app requested root permissions on my phone, that was it for verizon apps for me
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Speaking of verizon and apps. My gf when she was on the phone was told by a rep that she had updated an app the previous day through Google play. Talk about sketchy! Yea I remember when the verizon app requested root permissions on my phone, that was it for verizon apps for me
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Wow, that takes things to a whole new level....
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Wow, that takes things to a whole new level....
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Your telling me. She's not rooted or unlocked though but that's still messed up. She got her shiny new S5 yesterday, looks nice
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ShapesBlue said:
Your telling me. She's not rooted or unlocked though but that's still messed up. She got her shiny new S5 yesterday, looks nice
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Hmm.. I wonder how they knew that then
Nice! I wanted the S5 or Note4, but I'll be hanging onto the S3 for another year. I can't justify buying one when I have a baby on the way
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Hmm.. I wonder how they knew that then
Nice! I wanted the S5 or Note4, but I'll be hanging onto the S3 for another year. I can't justify buying one when I have a baby on the way
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I hear that. I have mine until June next year. Not quite sure what I'm doing just yet. The Super power saving mode is quite a nice feature. It basically disables all apps but the essential ones. The battery life then goes way over a day plus on the S5
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Et tu Verizon
Thanks for the info. I did have the MyVerizon app installed, I believe. I don't remember it requesting root, but I sometimes click through those things without paying too much attention (since I'm fairly careful about what goes on the phone); the reason I install software requiring root is to access it (circular, I know) so, they are doing what they must to run. I appreciate the suggestions about other call centers, etc. I do have the contact information from the single most helpful and polite (funny how that goes together) person I talked to through this debacle. I'll drop him a quick note, but really, since they never even bothered to call back, it's clear to me that they want me to leave. Paying over $200 per month to be treated like crap is not something I could ever do. They are big, very profitable, and don't care about anything but extracting cash from people under contract, or too complacent to leave (I'm in the 2nd category until now). Being in a codependent relationship with Verizon is not only self-defeating, but irrational. Until we have some politicians owned by the people instead of corporations we have no chance of reigning these folks in. Sure, they employ lot's of people, but an army of good people working against the best interest of everyone is not good, it's an uncontrollable menace: just look at the banks that gambled with people's homes, lost their bets, then collateralized them when the bottom fell out of their own septic tank of greed. The entire world economy hit an air pocket, but we're still letting the same greed intoxicated pilots fly. My only regret is believing their lies as long as I did. I deserve better, and it's won't be particularly hard to find it. Since the 4.4.3 G3 (nor the 4.1.2 for that matter) are particularly compatible with the GSM carriers, and Samsung is the lookout for the felonious Verizon, I'll probably get a Nexus 5. I think the G5 is better for several reasons, but that's too bad. All of the tech and marketing in the world will not make me "grateful" to manufacturers or carriers that somehow feel controlling how you use the equipment you buy from them is somehow acceptable. The money Verizon cares about is the corporate contracts, since they can manage that process much better, the revenue is less volatile, and they don't have to take calls from subscribers, wasting the money that could be spent on acquisitions, and expanding their market oligarchy. Public utilities create natural monopolies. There are not 2 sets of power lines, or water lines, or sewers running into your home. And the idea that competition from fiber will for improvements from Comcast is false, prices may move, but service will not get better. Only when barriers of entry are low can new competitors help drive down the price of entrenched utilities. We could all create our own mobile system on meshes of unlicensed 5.0 Gig or other spectrum, but it would be very costly to do that and linking this metropolitan radio webs would be tricky. But probably, someone is already working on that. Ask a HAM radio enthusiast about how they handle phone calls over shortwave. They have licenses, yes, but the technology to connect 2-way voice wireless signals to PSTN phone calls has been around for many years. Big corporations exact huge profits and drag down anyone that needs the services, the trick is to find creative ways around them, most importantly by thinking outside of the feature/function cage they've placed around us. Soon, you'll be able to buy just the cable channels you want, perhaps. I have hundreds and I generally watch less than 10.
The accusation flung at me by the enraged employee is little more that hot air. It reflects a corporate culture of mendacity and blame. My fault was to allow him to take control of the conversation, for a millisecond. Whatever I've done to the software on the phone (which, as you noted, was not a ROM change) it's still my phone and not theirs. They don't even provide the "insurance" to replace the failed device, a third party does. I didn't stop my phone from working to get a new phone. Had the replacement worked as well or better as the one it replaced I would have been happy. Now, I'm going over a week with no phone and they will never get paid for that week. The longer it takes to resolve, the less on my final bill, which will be coming up soon. When folks have experiences like this it's best to communicate the problem to the FCC (as if they cared) and their state PUC. Not that they will do anything about it, but it's important to remember they have a duty to regulate whether this group of appointees cares or not. The only thing that affects Verizon is withdrawing my monthly gratuity and when that happens because of abuse, manipulation, and possible fraud, the regulators need to be informed, if only so they can't say they didn't know.
Thanks for the reminder that they have no business asking questions about rooted phones or ROMS. That lingering guilt that one may have done something Daddy Verizon doesn't approve of is there, for sure, but since what I was accused of I didn't do, it was easier to just say, no, I didn't do that.....when I offered to factory reset TWICE during the call and he pretended not to hear me I realized it was all just a manipulative game played by a bully. No, no lunch money for you today, dude. I think they actually hire volatile people and use them as scarecrows. If Verizon didn't want their customers to be exposed to abuse, they'd fire these guys. The second guy was so cold, trying to do the right thing, but hating it. If you've ever been to a time-share presentation and not purchased one, you are familiar with this game. It's not only wrong, but it reflects how truly manipulative and immoral the employers are, they are paying the guy to be insulting, intimidating, and thuggish. So many large companies act this way, it's amazing we let them get away with it. The only way to stop it is to stop paying them and tell them why. I worked in a small hardware store in a small town 30+ years ago. Even when customers were trying some trick, like returning something they didn't buy from us, or a more elaborate ruse (I'll bring the old stuff back tomorrow......), I just explained how it worked and enforced the process; I never shouted, "You are so busted...." These were customers, some making honest errors, some trying to take advantage, but there were none I didn't want to come back again, because it would be bad for business and likely make an enemy. After I leave Verizon I will never give them another dime ever, and I think they honestly don't believe that.
XdrummerXboy said:
I don't really have any info to help you, so I apologize for that.
But out of curiosity, do you have the MyVerizon app (or whatever the name is) installed?
At one point the app requested root permission, which is EXTREMELY sketchy in my opinion. I wonder if you grant it, or even deny it (if they can detect the denial) if they ASSUMED that you installed a custom ROM, because a lot of those that root also install custom ROMs.
Maybe just try at a different time of day to maybe get a call center in a different state or country?
That is extremely unprofessional on their part though...
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Rooting Samsung Galaxy Note 5 / Sprint Nougat SM-N920P - INFO OVERLOAD

Gents/Ladies,
This is my first ever post here. I have however been active on tons of message boards and I realize right away I've probably broken 19 of your "Never Do This In First Post" laws that are a sticky somewhere I didn't see. Move my post, forgive my sins and let's get on with the suffering.
I am a web/desktop/automation software engineer of 20+ years and I thought (WRONGLY!) that rooting my Galaxy Note 5 that turned into a sloth after Sprints Nougat update would be a cinch. Well, I've googled 3 different tutorials, watched 2 full Youtube tutorials and the only thing I can say for sure is that the people who made them have SEVERE ADHD (if you really have ADHD as I do, mine is severe, pardon my humor) and must be on crack and speed and meth and helium with a wedgie to trump all wedgie's because not one of them typed or spoke in complete sentences or finished a thought. I felt like I was back in the military where everyone assumes you know all the jargon, acronyms, and social flatulence necessary to succeed and if you don't ... well that's not their problem is it?
So to my actual question. I attempted to use Odin 3 and the TWRP in a couple of different tutorials to ROOT my phone and each time things moved right long until I got to the "Blocked" message when it attempted to write the new ROM to the phone (or I think that's what happened).
My situation may be overly complex as I don't own a PC, write all my software in Parallel's VM's and attempted to use a Win 10 VM to root from.
So first, is there a way to root my phone (Samsung Galaxy Note 5, SM-N920P, Nougat, Sprint) from my mac only and if not does anyone know if trying to do it through a VM is just a NO-GO? Secondly, if there's not goo answers to my first question. Can someone drop me a link to a VERBOSE TUTORIAL WRITTEN FOR FIRST TIME ROOTERS that is specific to my phone and carrier?
Lastly, thank you so much to all of you who work your butt's off in your spare time helping people like me and people smarter and nicer than me succeed in BRUTE FORCE TAKING CONTROL of our phone's that our carriers should have given us from the TOP (time of purchase) with a stern warning that if we do something stupid it's on our heads.
Hopefully someone takes mercy on my evil soul and introduces me into this dark world of incomplete sentences and unfinished thoughts.

Question S21 Ultra question.

I have a question, New account But I used to use these forums as a Main Research point for rooting my ATT devices over the years.
My BIL passed of Covid Complications on 9/27. My Sister came to me earlier today freaking out because she thought she knew his PW/Pattern. She is 2 attempts from bricking the phone. If I root this will I be able to recover his photos from the memory? In my initial inspection it would appear there is no SDcard port and he has it set to charge only as default when plugged into a computer. he was super paranoid about someone getting into his phone and passed so suddenly it took us all by surprise, on the mend Friday morning, Gone Friday night.
Any help would be appreciated, he was an avid amateur photographer, often stopping on cross country routes to snap pics of miltary aircraft or vintage planes when he saw them, and lots of pics of my sister and their kids. All we want is to recover them and Verizon has flat out refused to help in anyway.
Model # is SM-G998U

Rooting would require you to unlock the bootloader, which that itself would require you to get inside the phone. That's not an option I guess. The only way I can think of is try to access his Samsung account and try to unlock the phone via https://findmymobile.samsung.com/

The internal memory is encrypted by default on Android 11.
If you lose access to the phone the data will not be recoverable... so tread lightly.
As ShaDisNX255 suggested or through their Google account maybe.

XavWulffe said:
I have a question, New account But I used to use these forums as a Main Research point for rooting my ATT devices over the years.
My BIL passed of Covid Complications on 9/27. My Sister came to me earlier today freaking out because she thought she knew his PW/Pattern. She is 2 attempts from bricking the phone. If I root this will I be able to recover his photos from the memory? In my initial inspection it would appear there is no SDcard port and he has it set to charge only as default when plugged into a computer. he was super paranoid about someone getting into his phone and passed so suddenly it took us all by surprise, on the mend Friday morning, Gone Friday night.
Any help would be appreciated, he was an avid amateur photographer, often stopping on cross country routes to snap pics of miltary aircraft or vintage planes when he saw them, and lots of pics of my sister and their kids. All we want is to recover them and Verizon has flat out refused to help i
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I guess my first post was a blank post... I'm sorry for your loss, far too many people are familiar with that sort of a circumstance for my liking these days... A challenging situation and one that developed pretty quickly it sounds like, you have my condolences...
Now has this been handled yet? Cuz I have a pretty good idea of how to do it this is the SM -g998u from VZW originally. So this is the Samsung S21 us model with the qualcomm snapdragon chipset... I have a lot of experience with this device, et me know if this has been done or if you're still in real need to get this device handled cuz I can help you here I think... Let me know if you still need help here and I will set up a device exactly like it is configured and get through the various locks to extract the photos in question. I know how I'd do it. Let's see if it's needed and we'll go from there...
Best L4Xs

I have a question and that is when samsung is updating its all the features in the list.

Don't try to root it withi Android 12

Please help me with my Tab A 10.1 wifi PLEASE

So, a bit of a backstory. I'm part of a parenting group who does work with the local school system. They help lower income families and such, and during the remote learning part of COVID they were responsible for giving out tablets and hot spots to allow children without the means to remotely learn. Well now that remote learning is over they had surplus tablets and hotspots and because my fiancée and I are in a parenting group/education class we were entered in a raffle sponsored by them. We won tablets. Tab A 10.1 Wi-Fi tabs. Nice as hell. They came loaded with a Knox configuration for a company for early education called HATCH. Inc. It uses an app called IGNITE!. The security profile locks the wallpaper, and a few other things that are obviously centered around the school stuff. Well, a lot is unlocked also, but I'm concerned about my privacy and inability to upgrade and/or install apps of my discretion. I reached out to the head company several times for them to unlock it. I opened the developers options and was able to enable USB debugging as well as OEM unlock to unlock the bootloader. It had the option readily available. Since then, I have tried EVERYTHING to uninstall this security profile by flashing custom ROMs and everything. I've googled several dozen hours and have installed drivers, .tar recovery files, apps, Odin, flashers, rooters, romers, holy relics, mantras, novels, movies, self-help magazines, you freaking name it I've done it. I also have yet to find a clear, DEFINED set of instructions for my SPECIFIC model of tablet, and the firmware downloads are questionable. Please, PLEASE freaking God above, PLEASE, one of you android gurus help me! I can't get up with the company to remove it because they don't return calls or emails, and I can't find any real help online. This is so freaking aggravating. I OWN THIS TABLET. IT IS MY PROPERTY. Someone, help me disable this Knox crap, so I can use my tablet at my discretion. Please.

That's quit a story...

Indeed. Quite the story and quite the debacle. Most definitely one of the most annoying things that I've dealt with in a long while.

nundril said:
Indeed. Quite the story and quite the debacle. Most definitely one of the most annoying things that I've dealt with in a long while.
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Try to stick to just the pertinent facts especially with issues like this. The axion the longer the story the bigger the lie applies to my former statement. You didn't snap on me so I'll give you the benefit of doubt.
You won't like the answer but the easiest way is to get the IT department to delete the work profile. Not much of a prize if they don't. Some face to face encounters might motivate them better. Rub it it in if you have to, and don't take no for an answer. May take multiple people, trips, letters, whatever, climb the ladder to the top of that administrative chain if needed.
Consider it a lesson in assertiveness, you can never get too much of this type of training and it's free.
Otherwise the solutions you see in the Google searches are what's available.

Understandable. As of now I've just stuck to emails and phone calls. The head office is located about an hour and a half from my location so a ride to them for me and my fiancee tablets to work might be worth it. Appreciate the response and the honesty, I just figured I would explain the situation because I've seen so many times where a situation could've been handled had it been explained in greater detail. Just trying to convey the whole situation to an audience with zero knowledge of me or the situation as to hopefully reach someone with the knowledge to help, that's all.

Knox is a true pain. I avoid using it as much as possible because of the trouble it can cause.
XDA gets at times 1 request a day to bypass FRP lockouts. Some of those are stolen devices.
My dead mother's, friend's, etc. , I forgot it, it was like this when I bought it, my professor assigned us to hack it; the list is endless. Most are first post new members.
Of course some are innocent victims that got caught up in the machine as it were. Best advice is to return to vendor/do a charge back or get the unlock code from the last owner.
Rock simple stupid works the best.
If you're in the right the satisfaction of getting it resolved outweighs the time spent. I'm one of the few people who has gotten a refund check from Sony... it took dozens of calls. It was worth it in satisfaction alone

Do you think that calling Samsung customer support would make something shake? I mean considering we are legitimate owners, of which the instructors of our parenting class (who are employees of the early education place who distributed the tablets) are happy to attest to. I talked to them and they said to email or call and they would verify ownership and the details of the raffle etc etc to whomever reached out to them. If Hatch. Inc won't answer my calls perhaps Samsung might be able to help? Just trying to gather info at this point.

nundril said:
Do you think that calling Samsung customer support would make something shake? I mean considering we are legitimate owners, of which the instructors of our parenting class (who are employees of the early education place who distributed the tablets) are happy to attest to. I talked to them and they said to email or call and they would verify ownership and the details of the raffle etc etc to whomever reached out to them. If Hatch. Inc won't answer my calls perhaps Samsung might be able to help? Just trying to gather info at this point.
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You can try, Samsung customer support is notoriously horrible. Replacing the mobo would fix it. There maybe less drastic ways to resolve it.
The source of your dilemma are your benefactors not ensuring the gifts were properly decommissioned. They should see their mistake is rectified if they are sincere. Actions have consequences... even if by omission.